大家好。你们好。你们好。谢谢。谢谢。谢谢。谢谢。好，欢迎来到埃隆·马斯克的绿湾市政厅活动，也感谢你们签署反对激进派法官的请愿书。我的意思是，这一切都是为了在星期二出门投票，选举布拉德·希姆尔成为威斯康星州最高法院的下一任大法官。我们做到这一点至关重要。你们知道，我一直和布拉德四处奔走。

顺便说一句，我不，我不知道，而且我看到沃克州长也在这里。我知道他曾是一名不知疲倦的竞选者。以我从事这行这些年来所见，我不知道还有哪位候选人比、比布拉德·希姆尔竞选得更加不知疲倦。他实在是非同凡响。而且你们知道，他不是为了自己这样做。他这样做是为了拯救法院、拯救威斯康星州、拯救美国。让我们、让我们坦诚一点。

所以，所以过去几天我一直和他乘大巴四处奔走，然后我们会进行他们所谓的媒体围访，而、而我们走上前去和媒体交谈，每个问题都是关于埃隆、埃隆、埃隆、埃隆。现在，我不知道，我不了解你们怎么想，但我认为唐纳德·特朗普和埃隆·马斯克在doge运动方面所做的事情非常出色。你们觉得怎么样？

[掌声] 我的意思是，埃隆和他那群天才正在揭露的事情，实在是、实在应该激怒每一个美国人。你们知道政府一直把我们的钱花在、浪费在什么上面。我的意思是，就像我说的，那应该令人愤怒。每一个美国人都应该为此感到愤怒，但、但左派并没有。不，恰恰相反，他们在攻击埃隆。他们、他们、他们在他的经销店里用燃烧弹焚烧他的汽车。

顺便说一句，对于那种形式的国内恐怖主义，愤怒、愤怒在哪里？所以，这、这其实就是这一切的核心。我的意思是，我们有、我们有一些左派分子想通过法院系统把他们的意识形态强加给我们，对吧？嗯，他们、他们、他们不在乎自己在追求权力的过程中摧毁谁或什么。我们不能让、让他们得逞。现在，有1. 7百万威斯康星州人为唐纳德·特朗普投了票，对吧？

愿上帝保佑你们所有这样做的人。如果你们希望唐纳德·特朗普能够有效地任职4年，做、做他正在做的所有事情。顺便说一句，我简直不敢相信，他正在如此大胆、迅速而果断地采取行动，兑现他的竞选承诺。但你们会注意到、你们会注意到，那些激进派法官、那些、那些激进左派分子、法院里的那些超级立法者，正在针对他试图做的事情发布全国性禁令。

我们希望他做的事情，人民选他去做的事情。我们不能让这种情况继续下去。现在，本应发生的是，约翰·罗伯茨应该约束那些法官。他应该管好自己的政府分支。但我们在威斯康星州这里需要做的是，让我们的最高法院重新成为一个拥有大法官和法官的法院。我的意思是，让那些人适用法律，而不是修改法律。我们要找的不是超级立法者。

再说一次，保守派面临的一个真正劣势是，你们知道，当、当我投票确认一位最高法院提名人时，我知道自己不会喜欢他们的某些判决，因为他们是依据法律作出裁决，而我不喜欢某些法律。激进左派分子确切地知道他们的法官会做什么。而我们也确切地知道苏珊·克劳福德会做什么。她会推翻第10号法案。沃克州长的标志性成就。

省下什么？威斯康星州纳税人的数十亿美元。她会重新划分选区。她会加入那个将重新划分德里克·范·奥顿和布赖恩·斯泰尔斯选区的团体。我们可能会失去那些出色的国会议员。我们可能会失去众议院多数席位，而我不想坐在那里参加一位总统的第3次弹劾审判。这就是我们面临的局面。所以，我们不能让这种事情发生。

再说一次，好消息是，我们有一位正直的人，布拉德·希姆尔，他正在拼命工作。他会成为那种维护法律、恢复威斯康星州宪政平衡并帮助拯救美国的法官。所以，再说一次，这就是一切的核心。所以，为唐纳德·特朗普投票的1. 7百万威斯康星州人中的每一个人，你们都必须出来投票。如果你还没有投票，就在星期二出来投票。

和你认识的每一位朋友、家人和邻居交谈，联系每一个电子邮件联系人、每一个短信联系人。让他们全都在星期二出来投票。我们没有理由不能获得1. 3、4、5百万张选票，轻松赢得这场选举。所以，这就是你们必须做的事。感谢你们今晚来到这里。

现在，我很荣幸介绍一位前国会议员，他是另一位曾在国会代表我们、品行高度正直的人，现在则以交通部部长的身份在美国代表我们，肖恩·达菲。[掌声] 大家好。[音乐] 多么了不起的人群。我们能有罗恩·约翰逊这样的参议员，难道不是很幸运吗？他太棒了。国会议员，呃，托尼·威德也在这里的某个地方。托尼，你在哪里？

就在这里。H·斯科特·沃克也在这里。我知道德里克·范·奥顿也在这里。我们来自威斯康星州的杰出代表团。我们很幸运能在华盛顿特区拥有那样的斗士。现在，快速问你们一个问题。唐纳德·特朗普正在让美国再次伟大吗？是的，他正在这样做。现在，他确实还得到了一个名叫埃隆·马斯克的人的一点帮助。那是真的。[掌声] 是的。

而且我会说，他可能拥有近代史上最好的内阁之一。也许我们也在提供帮助。我想，我们所有人都认为我们的政府以及政府里的浪费，我们原以为情况很糟，但在DOA的工作之后，我们简直不敢相信情况竟然这么糟。这太可怕了。想想看，斯泰西·艾布拉姆斯为她的气候行动基金筹集了几百美元，然后乔·拜登给了她20亿美元，用于她的气候基金。

埃隆·马斯克发现，有700万名社会保障，呃、呃，人员在角色上，他们超、超过120岁。难以置信。而且我很喜欢Doge在USID发现的事情。1. 5百万美元用于在塞尔维亚推进DEI，2. 5百万美元用于越南的电动汽车，32,000美元用于秘鲁的跨性别漫画书，2百万美元用于危地马拉的变性手术和LGBTQ行动主义。你们辛苦赚来的税款竟然被花在那种垃圾上。

所以，我、我从没想过左派还能变得比他们实际上已经变成的样子更疯狂。但在上一次选举之前，他们全都希望我们驾驶电动汽车。他们想强迫我们改开电动汽车。选举之后，他们却在焚烧电动汽车。这有多疯狂？所以我看着这一切，心想，你们都厌倦胜利了吗？没有。如果你们还没有厌倦胜利，那就不要停止胜利。而如果你们不想停止胜利，这个星期二就是你们做到这一点的方式。

这场选举重要得不能再重要了。全国都在关注威斯康星州将会发生什么，因为你们有一位激进的左翼法官，她想取消择校。她想取消选民身份证制度。她想重新划定国会选区。她不喜欢父母权利。她想阻挠唐纳德·特朗普的议程。她对犯罪态度软弱。她不相信保释制度。而且她认为罪犯比受害者更重要。

在这个伟大的州，这是不可接受的。而我们有Brad Shiml，他认为法律应该平等对待每一个人。不管你是共和党人还是民主党人，他都是一个公正的人，会以平等对待所有人的方式执行法律，这正是我们保守派所希望的。所以你们大家能做的是，你们大家，顺便问一下，你们都会去投票，还是已经投过票了？你们都投过了。好的，你们看起来是一群相当有活力的人。

所以，我想你们每个人至少都有5个朋友，也许有10个。星期二带你们的5个或10个朋友去投票站。如果你们所有人都这么做，把朋友带到投票站，因为这是一场投票率较低的选举。带上你们的朋友。带上你们的家人。如果星期二你们所有人都和朋友一起出来投票，我们就会在威斯康星州获胜，并向激进左翼传递一个信息。别招惹特朗普。别招惹Doge。

别招惹埃隆。也别招惹威斯康星州。大家一起把事情办成。上帝保佑。处理事务。[音乐] 我不在时，好好照料我的事务，[音乐] 处理事务。[音乐] 我们一直在处理工作，处理事务。处理事务。我们会处理事务。

处理工作 [音乐] 空地上站着一名拳击手，他以格斗为业，他带着那只成就了他的手套，或割伤他，直到他在愤怒与羞耻中喊出声。我正在离开。我正在离开，而仍然 [音乐] 留下。啦，莱恩，啦。[音乐] 啦。[音乐] 啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦啦。[音乐] 宝贝。哭吧，宝贝。

而且我知道她告诉她，她爱耳 [音乐] 如果你曾经来吧，哭吧宝贝迎 [音乐] 永远不会有人爱你。带走你所有的 [音乐] 痛苦。如果你需要我，你知道我会就在。如果你曾经来吧，[音乐] 像你似乎总会做的那样哭泣。当你 [音乐] 走进你的生活时，当你只需要做一件事。你只需要把一件事做好，就能在这个 [音乐] 世界上成功。你有一个女人。

你所要做的，就是有一次对一个女人做个好男人，那就结束了。我知道你还有更多泪水可以分享。来吧。来吧。来吧。来吧。来吧。[音乐] 女士们、先生们，请就座。我们很快将继续进行与埃隆·马斯克的市民大会。在埃隆发表开场讲话后，请准备好与选举相关的问题。请在过道里拿着麦克风的人员后面排队。

感谢各位就座。我们很快就会开始。宝贝，宝贝，宝贝。[音乐] 我知道我的心可以和我的爱留在一起。这是心照不宣的。它就在爱里 [音乐] 它做它做。[音乐] 我仍会找到某处的东西。[音乐] 那是我的爱。我的 [音乐] 爱做得很好。哦，我的爱，我的爱，只有我的爱握着通往我的另一把钥匙。哦，我的 [音乐] 爱，我的爱，只有我的爱会这样对我。[音乐] 我的爱这样做。

[音乐] 我从不向任何地方告别，带着我的爱。[音乐] 这样好吗？哦，我的爱。哦，我的爱。只有我的爱。[音乐] 当我还是个小男孩时，现在，老了这么多 [音乐] 就像我们可以做一些事，宝贝们 [音乐] 感受 [音乐] 就像我无法改变。主啊，帮帮我。我无法 [音乐] 改变，主啊。我无法改变。女士们、先生们，请欢迎埃隆·马斯克。[音乐] 大家好，[掌声] 感谢各位前来。你们觉得我的帽子怎么样？

好了，我要、我要在帽子上签名，然后把它扔出去。[掌声] [音乐] [掌声] [音乐] [掌声] 好了。好 [掌声] 了。好了。我也爱你们。呃，那么，呃，好吧，感谢各位前来支持威斯康星州这场非常重要的，嗯，呃，最高法院，呃，竞选。

嗯，这、这其实是件，我认为它、它、它是那种看起来显然对、对威斯康星州很重要的事情之一，但我认为它实际上也可能对，呃，整个国家很重要，而且、而且也许对全世界都很重要。[掌声] 所以，所以，这个，所以，这个、这个众议院目前的多数优势微乎其微。真的就只有几个席位。

而如果，嗯，如果、如果最高法院能够重新划分选区，呃，他们就会、他们就会操纵选区划分，并剥夺威斯康星州共和党一方的2个众议院席位。对，没错。其结果可能是众议院转变为，呃，民主党控制的众议院。确实如此。嗯，然后他们会试图阻止我们正在、我们正在做、正在为你们美国人民完成的所有政府改革。

[掌声] 所以，所以，由于，呃，特朗普总统和他出色的团队，我们在华盛顿特区正在完成的这些、这些改革，嗯，确实非常深刻。其实目标非常简单。就是恢复任人唯贤，嗯，以及自由。所以归根结底就是这个。所以美国是自由和机会的国度。所以我们想要、我们想要恢复个、个人自由、言论自由，总的来说，呃，让政府别来烦你。

嗯，所以，而且、而且还要确保你在、在美国取得成功取决于你的努力和才华，而不是其他任何东西。[掌声] 所以这些是、这些确实是崇高而重要的原则，而且、而且，我还会、我还会谈更多这方面的内容，呃，你知道，真的整晚都可以，只要、只要你们愿意听。嗯，但、但是，正如、正如你们可能已经从我们发布在 doge 上的东西中看到的那样。

gov 网站以及 X 平台上的 Doge 账号，联邦政府中存在大量的浪费和欺诈。真的令人震惊。这、这太疯狂了。是啊。真的很离谱。所以，就像，我是说，观众中至少会有几个索罗斯的行动人员，这是不可避免的。[笑声] 代我向乔治问好。替我向乔治打个招呼。美国。美国。美国。美国。美国。对。[掌声] 我是说，这是不可避免的。我一直在等这一出。

所以，我是说，我是说，是的，谢谢。谢谢大家。嗯，是的，我是说，我，我是说，来自左派的暴力和仇恨如此之多，这难道不令人震惊吗？我是说，这难道不应该——他们不应该是他们所声称的那个富有同理心的政党吗？然而他们却在烧毁 Tesla、枪击经销店，还呼吁总统和我去死。我就想，各位，你们知道，这，这太疯狂了。

比如，他们都疯过头了。我是说，这真的就像，呃，如果有人不想买某个产品，我完全理解。是的，那由你决定。那曾是一个自由的国家，你知道，但你不必把它烧掉。好吗。但是……那是别人的车。别动它。谢谢，[掌声] [音乐] [掌声] 大家。是的。所以，天啊，左派的安排程度简直让我大为震惊，坦率地说。我是说，我就想，到底发生了什么？

他们已经彻底失控了，到了另一个层次。我就想，嗯，就像，哇。嗯，我有点想知道是怎么回事，你知道，传统媒体对此负有部分责任，也许主要责任在他们，因为，你知道，你知道，这真的很糟糕。就像，如果，如果他们一直叫，你知道，他们显然已经把能想到的所有恶名都用来称呼特朗普总统了。

你知道，我想有一篇文章称总统比希特勒、墨索里尼和斯大林加起来还要糟糕。我就想，呃，事实上，特朗普总统没有杀过任何人。事实上，他非常擅长制止战争，而不是发动战争。所以，你知道，我们真的非常不同。也许我们需要，呃，在学校里重新增加一些历史课，因为我不知道人们是否理解，呃，你知道，呃，这其中的区别。

他、他们知道希特勒在领导什么吗？看起来他们，他们不知道。嗯，我是说，这只不过体现了国家教育部所推行的教育质量之低。所以，你知道，我们——这就是为什么我们，我们，我们想把自由归还给各州，让各州决定教育议程，而不是让华盛顿特区的一群新马克思主义者把某些东西强加下来。

[掌声] 所以，我是说，如今学校向孩子们灌输了如此多的反美宣传，实在令人震惊。让人难以置信。就像，到底他妈的发生了什么，你知道？所以，无论如何，不过说点更积极的，呃，我们，我们，我们有这份请愿书，嗯，你知道，算是反对，呃，能动主义法官，因为法官应该只是，嗯，解释法律，而不是制定法律。

[掌声] 嗯，所以，为了感谢，呃，人们签署这份反对能动主义法官的请愿书所给予的支持，我们只是希望法官做好法官，你知道，这是一个合理的要求。嗯，而且，嗯，我们显然、显然正在华盛顿特区看到一些疯狂的事情，呃，你知道，看起来就像，任何、任何联邦法官都能阻止美、你知道、美国总统采取的任何行动。这太疯狂了。

比如，我们，我们，这，这必须停止，必须在联邦层面和州层面停止。嗯，不过先让我发出2张100万美元的支票，以示感谢。[掌声] 好的，所以第一张支票给 Nicholas Jacobs。[掌声] 好的。[掌声] 现在，我应该说，之所以，你知道，之所以发这些支票，实际上只是为了吸引、吸引关注。

这，这就像，我们，我们需要吸引关注，而且某种程度上不可避免的是，嗯，当我做这些事情时，呃，你知道，这算是，呃，会让传统媒体有点失去理智，然后，然后他们会，他们会在每个新闻频道上播放，我就想，我，我就算花钱请他们这样做——要获得我们所得到的这种报道，成本会高出大约10倍，或者，你知道。所以，好吧。好吧。非常感谢。

[掌声] 所以，谢谢。好吧。好吧。我想，如果你愿意，可以直接拿走它。我们会弄到——我想我们也会给你一张真的。所以，然后第2张，第2张给 Eatarina Diesel。让我看看。希望在这里。所以，嗯，而且你知道，就像我说的，这只是有助于让这件事、让这件事获得关注，而且看到传统媒体为此失去理智也挺有趣的。所以，我也爱你。所以，是的。

所以，看，你好。谢谢。恭喜。好了。好了。[掌声] 恭喜。好了。所以，我们也，呃，将要宣布，我们现在正在宣布一个、一个、一个计划，呃，算是一项、一个动员投票计划。

呃，那个网页应该会在，呃，我想大约现在上线，呃，它在 America PAC 的网站上，或者直接去 America PAC 的，呃，X 账号。我认为，最大的挑战实际上只是让人们意识到有这场非常重要的选举，嗯，其中既有关于 Shimmel 法官的非常重要的选举，也有，嗯，决定是否在威斯康星州、威斯康星州宪法中加入选民身份证要求。

ition，这非常、非常重要。所以，这，这真的相当令人震惊，我是说，你大致可以从他们禁止身份证的地方看出选民欺诈发生在哪里，你知道，比如为什么要禁止身份证？比如在纽约州和加利福尼亚州，在选举时出示身份证就像是违法的。好吧，为什么会这样，我想象不出原因。

所以，嗯，所以2件真正重要的事情，嗯，是，呃，是在星期二真正确保司法诚信，然后就是选民身份证那件事，而且，嗯，你知道，那天是愚人节。所以，呃，而且这，这就像，我认为大多数人都不知道，就像我说的，大多数人都不知道有这场重要的选举。嗯，大多数人甚至根本不知道有选举。

嗯，而且，呃，或者即使他们知道，他们也不确定具体的时间和地点。呃，而且他们还不确定，或者他们没有意识到它到底有多重要。嗯，他们认为这，嗯，不过是，你知道，某种没那么重要的司法事项，但实际上，他们在做的、星期二将要发生的，是投票决定，呃，哪、哪个政党控制美国众议、众议院。

这就是为什么它如此、如此重大，而无论哪个政党控制众议院，呃，你知道，它，它，它在很大程度上就控制了这个国家，进而引导西方文明的走向。所以，就像，我，我觉得这是那种可能看起来不会影响整个人类命运的事情，但我认为它会。别有压力。是的。所以，嗯，这，这是一件超级、超级重大的事。

而且，而且我本人来到这里这个事实，比如我不是打个电话应付了事。我本人就在这里。我在。而且那里。是的。所以，而且我必须告诉你，确实有相当多的死亡威胁。呃，我当时就像，我的安保团队说，说：“嗯，实际上从昨天到今天已经减少了。从18,000降到了17,000。”所以我就想：“哦，也许情况正在好转，你知道。”嗯，但你可以看到其中一些人有多疯狂。

嗯，你知道，看看、看看那、那、那2个，呃，算是试图刺杀特朗普总统的人，你知道，我是说，那是，呃，而且其中1个，你知道，他们2个都差点成功。嗯，所以这是真的。比如，这不是什么凭空想象的事情。

嗯，所以无论如何，我们要宣布的有点像一个街区负责人计划，在这个计划中，嗯，有人可以报名，在自己的邮政编码区域挨家挨户敲门，鼓励人们去，呃，嗯，让人们知道有一场投票，嗯，然后让他们知道这场投票有多重要。所以，你现在就可以在America Pack网站上，呃，报名成为你所在邮政编码区域的一种街区负责人。对。

而且如果你这么做，基本上就是只需和某个人拍张照片，就能拿20美元。很简单。只需在你的社区挨家挨户敲门，然后，然后，然后给他们一张数字版或纸质版的，你知道，布拉迪马尔大法官的图片。可以是一个近似版本。不必完全一致。嗯，但是，呃，而且，而且，而且他们只需要竖起大拇指，拿着一张西梅尔法官的图片，就这样，你就能得到20美元。

听起来这很容易。这钱很好赚。所以，但我们做这件事的全部意义就是让人们知道这场选举，嗯，并且告诉他们有一场选举。选举在星期二，而且极其重要。请投票。所以，[掌声] 但我认为，如果没有这样的事情，嗯，我们实际上确实面临输掉选举的严重危险。把这一点记在心里非常重要。

如果你，如果你看看博彩市场的赔率，也就是说，如果你看看类似 Polymarket 或 kry 这样的博彩市场，单是 shimmel 输掉的概率在 85% 到 90% 之间变化。这就是目前的情况。所以，我们必须，我们必须使出更高一个层次的帽子里变兔子戏法。

这得……我们实际上必须让兔子源源不断地从帽子里出来，就像是一道兔子弧线飞过空中，然后落进一个、一个 booning 小隔间。有趣的画面。呃，Grock 或许能生成那幅图。嗯，所以，呃，这基本上就是所需要的，就是，就是，就是我们需要在矩阵中制造一个异常。嗯，而且因为我认为目前，呃，那里，民主党领先 100,000 票。

但实际上，如果只要，如果投票给特朗普总统的人星期二都去投票，呃，我们就会赢。实际上只需要这样。去投票。砰。完成。胜利。所以，所以我们基本上需要在全州撒网。就像接下来的 48 小时里，所有人都要在各地疯狂动员起来。嗯，而且我，我认为这对文明的未来会很重要。就是这么重大。所以，你们不常听到我这么说。

这，这是一件大事。嗯，所以请投票给“超级充能”法官 Shiml。我叫他“超级充能”[笑声] Shiml。所以，[掌声] 嗯，让我们看看。嗯，那么接下来，我想如果你们愿意，我们可以，嗯，做一些，做问答。呃，我很乐意回答任何问题。可以是，你知道，关于 Doge 或任何你们想听的事情。

嗯，因为我认为，嗯，如果你们提出公众有兴趣听的问题，那么，呃，你知道，那些，那些片段会传得到处都是，并且会对广大公众，嗯，你知道，产生帮助，甚至可能传播到我们国家之外。所以，让我们看看。呃，对，请讲。我们就从那边开始。呃，随着 AI 继续变得越来越聪明，它难道不会，呃，不可避免地看穿其创造者的，呃，宣传吗？

是的，问题是，随着 AI 变得更聪明，它会看穿其创造者的宣传吗？我，我希望如此。嗯，我认为你可以把 AI 大致看作是由，呃，它的创造者以某种方式培育出来的。嗯，所以，是的，比方说，它的运行原则是什么？什么，什么是，什么是这个，什么是 AI 的北极星？

嗯，你知道，如果它是一种偏企业化的 AI，它可能就像是只想让企业满意；或者它也可能，呃，你知道，尤其是一些在旧金山市之类的地方训练出来的 AI，它会带有某种旧金山偏见。

嗯，因为你也可以想想聪明人，比如，你知道，聪明人的各种信念之间也存在巨大差异，嗯，所以你可以预料，不同 AI 的信念之间同样会存在巨大差异。嗯，对于 Grok，我们的追求是打造一个最大限度寻求真相的 AI，嗯，也就是说，你总是希望努力尽可能接近真相，即使真相不受欢迎。嗯，而那，那就是我们的目标。

嗯，我认为这是一个非常重要的目标。嘿，衣服不错。哦，谢谢。首先，《流放之路》一生推。嗯，但更重要的是，正如我们所看到的，整个世界已经转向以恐惧为基础的动员行动，而我们已经看到这种行动转化为暴力，并且，并且右翼也不能免疫，因为它可以影响任何人的心理。当然。我们要如何用乐观主义战胜它？因为这对于避免冲突大规模爆发至关重要。

是的。我的意思是，确实看起来，嗯，你说得对，右翼也不能免于某种仇恨和暴力。不是说完全没有，但这，这确实似乎奇怪地严重偏向左翼。嗯，我的意思是，比如我从没见过有人扯掉拜登—哈里斯帽子。

比如我们只会，就像，你会有点同情他们，比如，哦，也许他们错了，你知道，嗯，但，但是，但是你会看到有人扯掉 mega 帽子，而且有人刚刚，你知道，我就在，就在今天看到一段视频，有个人正站在自动扶梯上，一名女子戴着一顶 mega 帽子站在自动扶梯上，而一个朝相反方向走的人把她头上的帽子扯了下来，我就想，什么，那，那很无礼，你知道，嗯，所以，嗯，事实上我觉得自己处于一种奇怪的境地，因为我，我并不认为自己是右翼。

我认为自己是中间派，但后来左翼一路走向了另一个，另一个方向，转眼之间，现在人人都是纳粹，你知道。而我就想，呃，等一下。呃，你知道那是什么意思吗？显然不知道。

所以，嗯，但是，是的，我的意思是，我认为，你知道，我相信和平讨论，而且，呃，你知道，我们提出论点，呃，口头论点，然后由人们决定他们想走哪条路，但我们，你知道，我们不采取那种靠喊叫压倒别人，或者暴力，或者焚烧东西，或者射击东西的做法。嗯，民主本来就应该这样运作，也就是和平讨论。所以我的问题是关于美国援助的。

嗯，Doge 团队有没有发现任何证据，证明马克辛·沃特斯、亚当·希夫、查克·舒默等任何激进左翼民主党人直接从 USA ID 收过钱？如果有，我们近期会听到那些证据吗？是的。所以，确实存在巨额腐败，嗯，但，但是它是很迂回的。

所以实际情况是，有一笔钱，显然那是你们的纳税款，随后被送到各个政府机构，而这些机构再把钱送给 NOS，而 NGO 是非政府组织，但显然，如果它是由政府资助的非政府组织，那它就只是一个组织，它就是一个政府，嗯，而且实际上存在一个巨大的欺诈漏洞，呃，也就是政府可以把钱交给一个 NGO，随后这笔钱就不再受美国法律管辖。

所以他们会，他们会把钱，呃，送到海外的一个 NGO。然后它会经过一大堆，一大堆 NGO，接着我非常确信，其中一大笔钱随后会回到美国，落入你刚才提到的那些人的口袋。嗯，但它走的是一条迂回路线。

它并不是，它，它，它不会直接过去，但这么说吧，有，呃，许多国会议员富裕得很奇怪，嗯，而我，我就是无法，我正试图把这些点串起来：他们在赚取，他们是怎么在每年收入 200,000 的情况下得到 2000万并变富的？你听起来，那就是我，没人能解释这一点。

所以，所以，所以肯定有什么，是的，我们，我们会努力查清楚，而且，嗯，并且，并且，并且当然会阻止这种事继续发生。嗯，[掌声] 所以，是的，我的意思是，总体而言，这整个 NGO 骗局简直疯狂。嗯，而且，呃，是的，这，这，这确实让我大为震惊。嗯，所以，是的，我们在座大多数人都知道社交媒体审查，我知道你非常清楚这件事。感谢你扭转了 X。太棒了。

随着金融机构中的审查加剧，我们能对此做些什么？呃，你指的是，嗯，由 X 提供金融服务吗？不是。呃，抱歉。因为金融或信念而被踢出去。是的。是的。嗯，好吧，当然，在特朗普政府执政期间，那，那不会发生。嗯，我，嗯，希望这能被写入法律。嗯，这也是我们需要一个共和党国会的部分原因。

嗯，所以你没看到任何共和党人把民主党人踢出去，也没看到他们取消民主党人的银行服务，但有很多共和党人被取消了银行服务，数以千计，这确实令人愤慨。

嗯，所以，所以我觉得这确实显得有点一边倒，你知道，就像试图毁掉人们的生活，呃，在经济上，还有暴力抗议，呃，如今绝大多数都来自左翼，你知道，就像，而右翼据我所知则很有礼貌，呃，也很公正。所以，是的，请讲。嗯，谢谢你来到这里。

呃，呃，你刚才对《黑客帝国》的评论有点讽刺意味，因为我和我丈夫昨天先看了第一部《黑客帝国》和续集。呃，我的问题是，如今这么多社交媒体，嗯，你知道，无论是 X、YouTube 还是别的什么，都有点，嗯，是按照你的，一个人的特定信念来策划内容的，甚至还有抗议者，嗯，出现在市政厅活动上，或者可能是收钱来的。

你要怎么——美国算是怎样团结起来的？以前你可以进行交谈，也可以像你所谈到的那样展开讨论，对吧？嗯，即使你不同意他们的一些说法，也仍然可以做朋友。嗯，当你谈到去不同的人家里敲门时，我有的一种担忧是，就算你和某个人交谈，每个人都有自己的一套信念和自己的真相。

所以我想问，你要怎样突破这一点？是的。嗯，我认为我们在相当长一段时间里看到的是，所有传统媒体和所有新社交媒体都步调一致。嗯，而且它们都在削减同样的左翼话术。嗯，而且它们在压制任何异议，以及任何所谓的右翼观点，或者坦率地说，甚至连中间派观点也在压制。

嗯，也正因如此，我才觉得收购 Twitter，也就是现在的 X，至关重要，嗯，是为了促成这种对话。所以，这、这、这无疑是朝正确方向迈出的一步，而且我认为，我们现在已经看到，一旦，呃，X 愿意打破一致立场，不再审查，呃，共和党人，嗯，那么你、你就看到其他人也开始朝那个方向转变。

嗯，你知道，例如，看起来，呃，Facebook 和 Meta，你知道，是的，嗯，他们……他们当然……马克·扎克伯格已经表示，他们会做某种社区注释，嗯，以 X 平台的社区注释为基础，嗯，而且、而且、而且不再设有某种极左审查，呃，机构，就是那种，你知道，实际上由觉醒派的 Stacey 审查内容。嗯，所以这是朝正确方向迈出的一步。

嗯，你知道，对世界上的 CNN 们来说，也许还有一些希望。就像，随着、随着、随着、随着 Scott 出现在那里，他很棒，你知道，他就像……我……但我希望，我的意思是，我算是抱有希望，事情正在、正在朝着这样一个方向发展：不同的观点会在传统媒体和社交媒体上得到阐述，或者、或者，你知道，被人听到。所以我、我、我想，也许我实际上对未来有一点乐观。

嗯，而且，嗯，你知道，在 X 平台上，你知道，我们、我们不会优先照顾，你知道，任何一方。我们努力做到尽可能公平。嗯，而且即使知名民主党人多少说了一些关于我的糟糕言论，我也会回复他们。嗯，所以，你知道，就像，是的，我们应该进行这种讨论。

嗯，所以我、我算是认为，至少在媒体方面，事情正朝着好的方向发展，但在……但我……但我确实多少对这些抗议活动的那种激进程度感到不安，你知道，在那里，这、这就像，你知道，这些抗议活动中有人呼吁让总统去死、让我去死，而且我不知道，可能也让其他人去死，你、你知道，那不是……那种事情不、不酷，你知道。

嗯，冒着说出某种离谱言论的风险，呼吁谋杀并不酷，你知道。那么，谢谢你来这里，埃隆。嗯，我的职业是教师。我读完了4年制学士学位，以便在未来教育这个国家的年轻人。嗯，关于这个，我……是的，实际上我有点好奇。呃，那是什么样的？比如，呃，是的。嗯，兄弟，我拿了个英语学位。

说到底，除非你想雇用我，否则也就这样，你知道，那是，嗯……当然。所以在师范学院期间，他们给了我们一张热力图，上面写着这些是每名学生的人均成本。呃，南部、东南部通常是最差的，但他们通常也是每名学生人均支出最低的地区。

嗯，除了我在一门教育课上得到的那1条文字材料中的那种相关性之外，我想知道，随着你对可汗学院的投资，以及 AI 教育工具的发展，尤其是你可以获得反馈，而这些学生也可以获得反馈。是的，当然。嗯，在拥有所有这些的情况下，我们如何看待100年后的景象？哦，天啊，100年后？50年怎么样？我希望它能持续100年。那就像中大奖一样。

嗯，你知道，是的，没错，希望、希望我们那时就像在火星上，你知道。嗯，所以那会非常酷。嗯，所以我、我确实认为 AI 在教学方面可以提供极大帮助，因为你可以、你可以，嗯，基本上给每个孩子配备一个个性化 AI，嗯，然后那个、那个 AI 可以回答每个孩子的问题。嗯，而这实际上可以对学习产生非常深远的影响，嗯，因为显然，如果、如果你有一间教室，里面比如有25、30个孩子。

就是你，你不可能，比如说，花时间——实际上根本不可能单独陪每一个孩子，嗯，呃，或者至少你可以花一点时间，但显然不可能，因为师生比例是1比21比30。所以，但是，但是你能做的是，你可以让他们使用AI，然后你可以，你知道，如果遇到卡住的地方，或者随便什么情况，如果你愿意，你基本上可以用这种方式指挥整个乐团。

而且我认为它可以成为一种非常强大的学习工具。嗯，你知道，实际上我个人很喜欢高中时的英语课。嗯，你知道，它们，呃，有时我会想，我为什么要读查尔斯·狄更斯？

那个，呃，你知道，阅读狄更斯以及、以及、以及许多……是有一些价值的。我、我其实认为，我们应该有一门、一门伟大的英语文学大炮，呃，让孩子们至少去读，你知道，呃，一定数量的英语语言重要作品。

[掌声] 所以我的意思是，这个，是的，这对我来说似乎非常显而易见，但是，呃，是的，嗯。还有，关于教学的另一件事是，我认为教师是一个非常重要的职业。嗯，如果你看一下支出，呃，行政人员的数量增长非常大，嗯，但教师数量的增长并不是很大，所以这，这确实是重要因素，也就是我们，我们应该有更多真正的教师。嗯，你知道，而且我，我，我赞成给教师优厚的薪酬，也赞成拥有很多、很多教师，但我们应该问，为什么我们有这么多行政人员，或者，或者非“提尔斯”人员。嗯，所以行政开支已经飙升，但教学开支或多或少持平，这毫无道理。所以首先，我想代表

美国，为了您为我们改善国家所做的事情，却不得不应付那些白痴，而向您道歉。

其次，我的问题是，您对美联储有什么看法，您是否有意对他们以及[笑声]美联储做些什么？是的。我不知道。我一直想这么说，你知道，呃，但是，但是我的意思是，我觉得美联储好像有20,000名工作人员，这似乎相当多。

嗯，就是说，美联储似乎有很多工作人员，好像，为什么我们在，在美联储有这么多人，他们是做什么的？而且，嗯，你知道，有时我会想，对于利率而言，究竟哪一方会赢，你知道，联邦……联邦储备委员会，还是一个魔术8号球？然后我就想，我觉得魔术8号球可能会赢，你知道。所以接着我就想，好吧，魔术8号球便宜多了。

嗯，所以你知道，就像你摇一摇它，它说稍后再来查看。我就想，[笑声]好吧，是同[笑声]一回事。嗯，但是，但是我认为我们，我们，我们真正重要的是，政府支出，嗯，不要远远超过政府收入。嗯，这是我们面临的一个根本问题，也就是我们有一个，赤字，2万亿美元的赤字，而我们现在支付的利息已经超过，呃，军方的全部预算。

嗯，事实上，对我来说，一个很大的警钟就是，我们支付的国债利息金额超过了国防部预算。我就想，国防部预算非常庞大，嗯，而利息比它还高，并且，而且，而且还在攀升。那是一场灾难。你知道，所以Doge团队非常简单直接的目标，就是消除，嗯，浪费和欺诈。它，它主要是浪费。

它，它，或者取决于你怎么……我会说，大概是80%浪费、20%向前，差不多这样。嗯，但那是1万亿美元，所以仍然很多。嗯，而且它，它，你知道，它必须，你知道，它必须是。我们那里又出现了一个索罗斯潜伏特工。[笑声] [掌声] 美国，美国，美国，美国。

[掌声] 所以我的意思是，说，说清楚，我们正在做的事情非常简单，而且我们，我们把一切都公开发布在Doge网站上，也就是，呃，只是审视每一项开支，然后问：这，这真的是对你们纳税款的良好使用吗？嗯，就这些。嗯，它并不，它并不是极其复杂。

而且，而且，而真正相当疯狂的事情是，这就是为什么，比如我说，你知道，我以前是民主党人，所以，比如，嗯，而且，而且如果你去听，呃，克林顿和戈尔在90年代发表的那些演讲，当时他们一直在谈减少浪费和欺诈，那简直，你根本分辨不出这是谁说的，是Doge，还是克林顿、戈尔？你甚至分辨不出差别。听起来完全一样。

这太疯狂了。所以，我们，我们实际上只是想让常识回归政府，并且说，比如，别浪费你们的钱。嗯，而且要确保钱花得好，就这些。而在，在试图节省1万亿美元开支时，我们所说的是，在7万亿的政府支出中，让我们试着看看，看看能不能把效率提高15%，15%。嗯，我有信心我们可以做到。

嗯，不过顺便说一句，这其实并不是一个很高的门槛。[掌声] 所以，而且，而且，而且当你看到，当你看到政府把钱花在的那些疯狂事情上时，呃，你可以看到其中一些事情的清单。嗯，你知道，比如，我不知道我们是否应该把钱花在秘鲁的跨性别漫画书上。那似乎不是花你们的钱的一种理想方式，你知道。嗯，我们为什么要那么做？

嗯，如果，如果秘鲁有人想自愿那么做，那没问题，但做这件事的不应该是你们的钱。嗯，所以这就，而且你知道，我们不应该为空置建筑支付租金。

嗯，而且，呃，你知道，如果，如果，如果人们……如果……我确实认为政府有其作用，但是，但是我们只需要让……我们只是要……我们只是在逐一审查，并进行我所谓的，对组织和人员的，一项出色而且，而且，而且必要的，嗯，并且可信度合理的审查。嗯，所以，这，这个人工作做得好吗？很好。嗯，这个岗位有必要吗？如果有，那很好。

嗯，而且他们是否得到了合理信任，意思是他们不是精神病患者？嗯，比如，我们说的不是政治归属，只是他们并不疯狂。嗯，所以你知道，呃，这有什么问题？我就想，听起来很正常。所以，就这些。

嗯，现在，在，在这个过程中，我们发现的事情之一，我认为，嗯，在欺诈方面，是一件非常重大的事，嗯，那就是，呃，民主党政府、拜登政府基本上拿了美国政府的每一个部门，并使其转向为非法移民来到美国创造经济激励。嗯，现在，这涉及政府的每一个部分。

所以，比如社会保障、医疗补助，呃，失业保险、残障福利，呃，甚至美国国税局。嗯，所以你可以，比如填写一份虚假纳税申报表，说你你需要一笔税款——也许我不该告诉大家这个，但这实际上行得通。我是说，大多数情况下，呃，有一定概率你会被抓到，但你确实可以填写一份虚假纳税申报表。即使你没有缴税，你也可以，你可以直接拿到退税。

所以，我们正试图制止所有这些事情，也就是说，好吧，让我们制止浪费和欺诈，而且而且我们还需要取消吸引非法移民来到美国并并留在美国的巨额经济激励，呃。

而这确实是让民主党人失去理智的事情，你知道，因为他们目前实际上正在花费，呃，数百亿美元来吸引非法移民并让他们留在美国。规模真的就是这么大。这是一个极其庞大的数字，而目标，呃，是是让所有摇摆州都变蓝，包括——这意味着威斯康星州。所以这就是目标。

嗯，所以通过庇护计划，呃，如果他们，他们可以在1年内拿到绿卡，然后在拿到绿卡后最快4年就能获得，呃，公民身份，因为获得庇护的第1年、获得庇护的第1年会计入，计入5年的，呃，公民身份等待期。所以这，这是一件非常重大的事。

嗯，所以，呃，我的一些朋友实际上已经，呃，加入了政府，以便帮助推进这个过程。嗯，我想欢迎我的朋友安东尼奥·格拉西亚斯上台。我想是这样。能用吗？我可以把我的给你。能用吗？辐射带。呃，不会有事的。呃，我是说，巴兹·奥尔德林还活着，而他穿越过那些辐射带。工作。这个能用吗？对，不能。对，好了。

嗯，那么安东尼奥，你能告诉我们你，呃，安东尼奥正在帮忙处理，呃，社会保障方面的工作吗？所以，只是试图审查社会保障，你们可能听说过，我们发现社会保障数据库中有2000万名死人，呃，被标记为活人。这太，太疯狂了。然后你会注意到这里有一个奇怪的趋势。嗯，就是，呃，发放了多少个社会保障号码。呃，它——你想要，对。

那么让我，嗯，让我告诉你们这里发生了什么。我们，我们从系统顶层开始。你想谈谈很多——我们从系统顶层开始，对整个社会保障系统进行梳理，以了解所有欺诈发生在哪里。而且那里有很多很棒的人向我们展示了，嗯，确实有大量浪费。于是就整理出了一份很长的事项清单，他们正在处理。你们已经听说过其中一些。

但这是最引起我们注意的。嗯，当我们看到这些数字时，我们就想，这是什么？在21年，你会看到270,000人，呃，一路上升到24年的210万人。这些是正在获得社会保障号码的非公民。对。这，这是一张令人震惊的图表。对。这个，这个真的把我们惊呆了。就像我们去那里是为了查找欺诈，却意外发现了这个。顺便说一句，这与政治无关。我的父母是移民。

呃，是的，这个国家一直对我们很好。我的兄弟和姐妹全都出生在西班牙。我支持“勒”移民。这不是，这不是政治问题。这不是政治问题。这关系到美国和美国的未来。而且系统中有很多好人把我们引向了这个方向。我现在想要，我想要向他们致敬，他们如今在政府中工作，冒着风险向我们展示这些数字，并告诉我们正在发生什么。

所以，我想停一下。我想告诉——我今天想向那些人致敬。非常好的人。非常好的人。为了追查这件事，我从华盛顿特区跑到社会保障办公室，再到边境。一路上有非常好的人帮助了我们。我想感谢他们。对。这个数字所代表的是，当你进入这个国家时，如果你是非法入境者，呃，有几种入境方式。

你可以通过入境口岸进入，然后你可以告诉他们你害怕，于是你会获得——他们会给你一个庇护、庇护案件。你会接受面谈。然后你就进来了。这是一种方式。另一种方式就是直接去边境。真的，这确实发生过。我亲自和边境巡逻队谈过。埃隆也在那里。嗯，我去了拉雷多，呃，我还去了布朗斯维尔。埃隆去了伊格尔帕斯。

嗯，你走到边境巡逻人员面前，告诉他们你想进来。他们有几种选择。他们可以依据1325条，以轻罪或重罪起诉你，或者可以把它定为行政违法，就像违停罚单。基本上，他们被告知要那样做。

在上一届政府时期将其定为行政违法，然后你走过边境，他们，呃，会做所谓的具结释放，然后给你一份NTA，也就是出庭通知，让你到法官面前出庭。等待法官审理的时间平均大约是6年。看看Grok，你会在移民法官方面看到这一点。只有700名移民法官。这是550万人。明白吗？那么，接下来会发生什么？

一旦你进入这个国家，并通过这些路径之一获得庇护，而我们已经梳理出了整个流程，呃，你就可以申请工作文件。你提交一份765。这是工作表格。你会拿到一份叫作766的表格。那就是授权。然后社会保障管理局会自动通过邮件把你的社会保障号码寄给你。没有面谈，不需要身份证明。这一点值得，比如，再强调一遍。

这这并不是……人们有时认为，在拜登政府执政期间，他只是玩忽职守、睡着了。他没有睡着。他们是在玩忽职守、睡着了。

这这这是一个大规模的庞大计划，要尽可能多地输入非法移民，最终改变美国的整个选举版图，剥夺美国人民的选举权，并使其成为一个永久的深蓝色一党制国家，从此再也无法逃脱。听着，如果不是我亲眼看到这些，我不确定自己会相信。我亲自调查过，并把它绘制了出来，埃隆是对的。这是真的。

从社会保障到所有福利项目，系统里的默认设置都被设定为让这些人最大限度地被纳入、获得最高金额的支付，并进行最低限度的追缴。这就是正在发生的事情。举个例子，我们已经发现其中有130万人加入了医疗补助计划。我们逐一检查了每一个福利项目，在我们检查过的每一个项目里，都发现了来自这个特定人群、这550万人中的群体加入了那些福利项目。

然后，真正真正令我们不安的是为什么。我们在问自己为什么。所以我们实际上只是抽取了一个样本，查看选民登记记录，结果发现这个人群中有人在这里登记投票。是的。还有谁投了票？而而且我们通过抽样发现，有些人确实投了票。我们已经把他们移交给国土安全调查局起诉。是的。已经。已经。

这现在已经发生了。是的。不过真正令人不安的事情，我只想让你们知道这一点。对我来说真正令人不安的事情，也是其中最黑暗的事情，呃，选举舞弊很糟糕，但这造成的人道悲剧非同寻常。因为有件事你们不了解，人们也不知道，而美国人需要知道，这就是我来这里的原因，那就是人口贩子从中赚了130亿到150亿美元。明白吗？

正是这些钱在世界各地流转，把世界各地的人运到我们的边境，因为有这些激励。它是怎么运作的？会发生什么？嘿，如果你在非洲，而你在中美洲，你就得徒步向北穿过墨西哥，穿过美国。你付钱给谁？你付钱给毒枭。你付钱给人口贩子，对吧？而且我们发现，ICE告诉我们，费用在20,000美元到500美元之间，视情况而定。

他们接上你，让你徒步穿过所有那些国家，一路抵达边境。那些钱去了哪里？流向了贩毒集团。流向了人口贩子，对吧？有30,000名儿童已经没有按照出庭通知现身。ICE知道这件事。30,000名儿童，270,000名儿童甚至都没有收到出庭通知。

ICE告诉我们，孩子们被来回贩运过境，以凑成完整家庭，让这件事变得更容易。这是一场人道悲剧。不只是钱的问题，还关乎人和孩子。而这些人中有多少人在来这里的途中死去、没能进来？他们发生了什么？我们在这里创造了这个体系，造成了一种下降，让人们前来并被这些人口贩子利用。

你们觉得他们怎么拿到钱？什么？你是一个非洲中美洲人。你有20,000美元、10,000美元或5,000美元付给这些人口贩子吗？不，你没有。会发生什么？你进来以后，就欠他们钱。你就是你的契约仆役。如果你不付钱，会发生什么？他们会做什么？他们杀了你的母亲。他们杀了你的兄弟。照顾你的家人。接下来会发生什么？这就是我们发现的情况。

我必须告诉你们，这对我来说曾经是、这是悲剧。这场悲剧，这造成的人道悲剧非同寻常。那才是真正的问题。这里是美国。我们在美国这里不做这种事。是的。我们在美国这里不做这种事。人们合法来到这里，那很好。埃隆是合法来到这里的。我的父母也是合法来到这里的。那才是正确的做法。这这太令人愤慨了。[掌声] 是的，这这这相当疯狂。

我的意思是，你们可以看到，呃，因为外面其实仍有很多人，尤其是在这个国家中间大约三分之一的地区，他们他们不知怎么认为这是右翼编造的，或者像是某种虚构故事。并不是说它不知怎么就不是真的。但它确确实实是真的。

嗯，而且你们可以看到，如如果你们如果你们，你知道，看看纽约州之类的情况，它曾试图让让让非法移民在纽约州投票合法化，而那项举措直到几周前才被纽约州最高法院否决。嗯，而而且加利福尼亚州已经让，嗯，该州所有非法移民都可以获得医疗保健。嗯，他们最初声称只会花费30亿。现在是90亿，而且还在上升。

嗯，所以这确实是，如果你为人们非法来到美国创造巨大的经济激励，那么他们就会那么做。这是，这是非常有点儿，如果没有发生，那才会比较奇怪、才会反常。

所以，真正的，实际上最让民主党人失去理智的事情，嗯，到目前为止，这些袭击以及某种烧车等等事情的真正原因，是我们要停止向非法移民付款了。[掌声] 因为，是的。我的意思是，因为协议不是这样的。你知道，这个，这就是，你知道，这不，这不，这根本不对。

嗯，而且，呃，你知道，如果你看看罗斯福酒店那件事，还有，比如你知道，纽约的豪华酒店，联邦紧急事务管理局的资金被用来把，呃，非法移民安置在纽约的豪华酒店里，而普通美国人住不起。嗯，而且他们会得到一个欢迎礼包和10,000美元的借记卡以及其他一切。比如，这，这完全是真的。

我的意思是，这就像，呃，这，这，这在我看来，我认为这是遥遥领先的，历史上最大的，呃，选民欺诈事件。嗯，而且，而且更像是，如果放任不管，它本来会成功。嗯，正如安东尼奥提到的，从寻求庇护到成为公民的时间大约是5年。是的。

呃，所以你看到的那张图表中进来的所有人，呃，如果，如果卡马拉傀儡背后的机器赢了，嗯，那么，你知道，他们会换掉傀儡，但还是同一台机器。嗯，那么他们实际上就会让，呃，所有那些人合法化，也就不会再有摇摆州，而且他们还会增加更多人。记住，那是每年翻倍。是的，它从100万开始。它在疯狂飙升。疯狂飙升。

而且这，这就是，这些人现在只是在终止这些，这些，呃，福利项目，顺便说一句。我们也看到增长正在发生。而这些还只是系统里的人。这还不包括其他，你知道，移民与海关执法局认为身处外面的750万、800万人。我们不知道他们是否有号码。这个数字完全不受控制。正因如此，该州的选民身份证要求极其重要。是的。

因为社会安全号码本来不应该是联邦身份证号码，但它基本上就是。你就是这样获取所有福利的。这就是为什么我们需要选民身份证，因为这东西并不安全。如今，你作为美国的一名成年人，可以直接走进社会安全办公室，仅仅，呃，回答6或7个简单问题，并出示一些，一些并非联邦身份证的身份证明，就能获得一个被编号的社会，一个社会安全号码。

嗯，你实际上完全可以编造。基本上，你可以，你可以出示基本上像是，呃，比如一张假的水电费账单，或者，你知道，出示一张医疗账单和学生证。是的。医疗账单和学生证，然后你就能获得一个社会安全号码。是的。嗯，然后从那里你会进入选民角色，接着，嗯，基本上民主党工作人员会组织投票。是的。

嗯，所以，呃，你知道，这里的问题显然是，如果你把摇摆州，呃，变成蓝州，那么就没有摇摆州了，接着我们就会处在一个永久性的单，一党制中。而他们一旦赢得这个局面，就会掌控众议院、参议院、总统职位，他们会扩充最高法院。然后他们会，他们会在非法移民问题上加倍下注，就像加利福尼亚州一样。所以，比如我们，我们已经看到这种事在加利福尼亚州发生了。

加利福尼亚州是民主党占绝对多数。所以，呃，但至少限制加利福尼亚州的一点是，人们可以搬到州外。嗯，一旦你再也无法离开美国，他们就会，他们会比加利福尼亚州糟糕得多。所以，形势非常严峻。帮助我们清理威斯康星州。是的。是的。绝对是。[掌声] 所以，我的意思是，这，这其实是非常简单的事情。

呃，只是，你知道，投票时要有，呃，你知道，带照片的身份证，就像你不能，比如，在酒类商店买东西，但，呃，投票要重要得多，呃，比起，你知道，买一杯啤酒。所以你将需要真实身份一架飞机。是的。你哪儿也飞不了。是的。而且，而且，而且，比如那些说，正在说投票站不应要求选民身份证的同一批人，呃，却要求每个人出示疫，疫苗身份证明。是的。

我就想，这很奇怪，你知道。所以，所以，这，这，这实际上只是为了恢复投票制度的公正性。嗯，这确实不应当是一项右翼或左翼事业，而应当是所有人的事业。嗯，是，我们难道不都希望投票制度保持公正吗？我们当然希望。是的。当然。是的。所以，[掌声] 所以，所以，好吧，欢迎你留下来看看，也许人们有一些问题。让我们看看。我们，我们会去。嗨，埃隆。

嗯，我也是一名教师。我曾在科罗拉多州当了8年教师，教高中西班牙语。嗯，但我搬了，我去年搬到这里，并且得以在威斯康星州投票，在这里我的选票真的有意义，我非常高兴，我们成功让特朗普当选，太棒了。是的。嗯，我当时在听，我相信是帕特里克·贝特-戴维。

他完全说中了，他说，当埃隆，或者当、当特朗普当选后，他会从头号敌人变成埃隆会成为头号、头号敌人。至于原因，我是说，他只剩几年时间了。我们也都看到左派如何对付你，把你变成头号敌人。而且刚走进这里时，我们就听到“纳粹真烂”。有所有这些可怕的事情。

认真说一句，我只是想让你知道，我和妻子晚上会为你祈祷。谢谢。为你的安全祈祷，各位。谢谢。我、我、我现在得、我得注意自己的手势，你知道，不过，呃，我觉得这个手势是安全的，你知道。嗯，你知道，就像连向人群挥手都不行。你永远不知道会发生什么。而且我喜欢你大概有10年了。

而且对任何和我说话的人来说，我一直都是一则行走的 Tesla 广告，尽管我在来到威斯康星州之前也从没拥有过 Tesla。而且它已经10年了，但这是我拥有过的最好的 Model S。谢谢。它太不可思议了。谢谢。不过我、我只是想，嗯，想问问你是否可以。我把父亲也带来了。嗯，他是一名牧师，我只是想，如果你同意，我也很希望他能为你祈祷，祈求你得到保护。

谢谢。呃，埃隆，那个，非常感谢你为我们的国家所做的一切。我们、我们真的非常爱你。谢谢。而且，呃，而且作为一名牧师，但也只是作为一个人，对吧？即使我不是基督徒，我也知道这里并非每个人都是基督徒，但我想这里有相当多的人是，而且，呃，不管是谁，我们、我们爱所有、所有人。那、那不是问题所在。问题是、是公平。

你所谈到的问题是，呃、呃，公正，而司法却成了武器，不再是，呃，不再是真正的公正，而是法律战，还有你谈到的所有这些腐败。如果你想这么说的话，那是一种恶劣的精神，这还是客气的说法。那、那是某种邪恶的东西，它已经开始侵害我们的国家、我们的道德、我们的家庭等等，然后你、总统以及其他人遭到这种愤怒和仇恨的攻击。

所以，如果你允许我祈祷。谢谢。所有愿意的人，请和我一起低头祈祷。仁慈的天父，我们感谢我们的国家。我们感谢上帝确实保佑美国，也感谢上帝是一切良善、爱与供给的源泉。主上帝，是您赐予了一个拥有伟大历史的伟大国家。尽管我们经历了许多艰难时期，您仍真切地与我们同在，并在我们中间行事。

感谢您保护特朗普总统，使他免遭那场致命袭击。我们祈求您环绕并保护所有为正义、自由、秩序、尊严而战，以及按照功绩奖、奖励人们的人。

尤其请在埃隆·马斯克、他的孩子、他的整个家庭以及他的所有团队成员周围筑起您的保护屏障，使所有人都能为我们的国家行善、秉持公正，使自由真正存在，也使正义再次占据主导。我们奉蒙福的救主耶稣基督之名祈求这一切；在每年的这个时候，我们纪念他为我们的罪受苦并死去。愿您洗去我们国家所有错误之处，并从我们开始。

我们奉耶稣之名祈求这一切。阿门。阿门。谢谢。非常感谢。谢谢。[掌声] 给你。如果你愿意，可以留在这里。那个，太、太美好了。太美好了。呃，坦率地说，我觉得我们会需要神的保护。是的。嘿，埃隆，首先，我想感谢你为我们的国家乃至整个世界所做的一切。这也是我的肺腑之言。

嗯，我有一个问题想问你。嗯，当你在 Doge 作出决策时，你如何能够坚守自己的道德北极星，并且不会仅仅因为结果证明手段正当，就在逾越民主程序方面开创先例，进而产生类似上次选举的结果，也就是民主党总统候选人未经正当程序就被指定，而这只会进一步撕裂国家。确实。另外顺便说一句，还有一件事。

从长远来看，你认为去中心化技术在社会和政府中有一席之地吗？是的，我是说，先回答第2个问题，嗯，我认为一般而言，拥有去中心化系统是好事，呃，因为某种事物越集中，嗯，任何单一实体掌握的权力越、越大，就越有可能出现腐败。所以我认为，去中心化有助于最大限度地减少腐败。

嗯，然后关于 Doge，呃，我是说，正如我说过的，它、它，我们正努力尽可能按字面行事。它就、它就是政府效率部，就是逐项查看，然后说，好，这笔钱花出去了，它是不是大多数美国人都会认同为合理的支出，呃，还是并不合理？嗯，而且，呃，你知道，如果看起来不合理，那么我们，你知道，嗯，就会说，那个，我们不应该再花这笔钱。

我们应该，而且我们应该、我们应该阻止它。所以，然后我们会发布这些、这些，我们努力做到尽可能透明。所以，Doge 的所有行动都会发布在 doge.gov 网站以及 X 上的 Doge 账号上。所以，如果人们不同意某件事，他们、我们可以说，那个，你不同意哪、哪一部分？

嗯，而且当，当我受到这类攻击，比如，哦，这是违宪的，我是说，嗯，我们停止的哪一项支出是违宪的，嗯，因为，然后他们，他们其实不知道，因为他们没有，他们实际上什么都没看过。

所以，嗯，显然，其中很多事情都可能被新一届政府推翻，嗯，但至少在一段时间内，我们会确保你们缴纳的税款至少能用得好15%。这，这，这，这并不是一个，你知道，我认为这是个合理的目标。这是个理性的目标。这是个明智的目标。

嗯，而且，嗯，我应该说，最终结果是，如果，如果，如果我们同时实现经济产出增加1万亿美元，以及预算赤字减少1万亿美元，那么结果应该是，从一年到下一年都不会有通货膨胀，或者只有很少的通货膨胀。所以下一年底时，你，杂货店里的价格会和现在非常相似。

嗯，这意味着，你知道，生活水平实际上很可能会更高一点，更高一点。嗯，你知道，然而到目前为止我们经历了失控的通货膨胀，而通货膨胀其实就是一种恶性的税，历来一直被各国政府所利用。嗯，对政府来说，把通货膨胀用作一种税非常有诱惑力，因为它是间接的。

嗯，人们看到杂货店里的价格上涨，或者，你知道，商品和服务或房屋的价格上涨，他们往往会怪罪商店，但问题不在商店，而在政府。嗯，政府降低了货币的价值，结果价格就上涨了。

嗯，所以通过，你知道，改变，通过减少浪费和欺诈，嗯，基本上会让经济更有效率，呃，并会把人员和资源从政府转移到私营部门。嗯，这将使商品和服务的产出增加，因此平均生活水平也会随之提高。所以，他们试图让经济学听起来非常复杂，但它其实并没有那么复杂。

嗯，生活，生活水平会在商品，也就是人均商品和服务平均产出增加时提高。基本上就是东西更多了。因此，你就有更多东西可以分给人们。嗯，就是这样。

而且你可以，你可以做这种思想实验，比如说，如果一座岛上有100个人，你会问，那么你想要多少人种田、捕鱼、制造东西，嗯，你知道，与做监管工作的人相比。你会说，你不会想要比如20个人做监管工作，你知道，你会觉得那太多了。嗯，那么也许你会想要1个或2个。我不知道。也许1个都不要。理想情况是0个。

我，我是说，顺便说一下，我完全支持小政府。我不是，我觉得真正的，是的。嗯，你知道，美国刚成立时，美国刚成立时只有，嗯，你知道，有国务卿、战争部长，我觉得这个名称比国防部长更准确，嗯，呃，而且你知道，不过它在很长一段时间里都叫战争部长。嗯，还有财政部长和司法部长。就这些。

而且，嗯，如果完全由我决定，我会说，那就让我们再次变成那样。是的。你们好，先生们。呃，我有一个关于政府和透明度的简短问题。您认为狗狗币，或者狗狗币区块链，有朝一日可能会被用于实现最大程度的透明度吗？嗯，这两个名称很相似，但它们做的是两件截然不同的事情。

嗯，事实上，我本来打算把它叫作类似“政府效率委员会”的名字，但那是个超级无聊的名称。嗯，然后互联网上的人说：“不，它得叫政府效率部。”我当时想：“好吧，互联网，那个，互联网是对的。”嗯，所以，所以我们把名称从政府效率委员会改成了政府效率部。

嗯，但据我所知，政府没有使用狗狗币或任何类似东西的计划。嗯，所以它们只是碰巧名称相似，但其实我们真的就只是在努力让政府的效率提高15%。这有点像，像大部分正在做的工作，它有点像家庭作业。它不像是，呃，它就是，它就是工作，你知道吗？坦率地说，它就像洗碗。

它，它并不是，你知道，其中很多并不是超级有趣的工作。就是，你知道，逐项查看每一笔开支，然后问为什么，你知道，为什么这个部门拥有的软件许可证数量大约是人员数量的10倍？这说不通。嗯，你知道，为什么，为什么会这样，为什么政府每年要花1000万美元订阅 Politico？

这说不通，你知道，就像这种事情一件接着一件。都是些，呃，有点，有点无聊的事情。就是一大堆无聊的东西。比如你确实会听到那种，那些登上新闻头条的奇怪事情，但大多数，大多数被削减的成本都只是非常基础、无聊的东西。

它，它，它是一个，它，它就像规模化的家庭作业，这就是我会称你为政府效率部的方式。嗯，我能不能，我能不能补充一些，我想，是关于透明度这个问题。我在这里真是把它说得很吸引人。是的。是的。不，不，不。我，嗯，我，我，我会说，Elana 为 DOGE 确立的原则以真相为起点。真相。找出真相。第1，找出真相。为什么？

因为政府，政府已经变得如此庞大，以至于人们实际上甚至不知道里面有什么。他们不知道真相来源。所以这些许可证，并不是说人们购买这些许可证是因为他们是坏人，而且他们想给微软付钱。他们只是不断购买许可证，因为微软不断从他们那里销售。我是说，就是，就是这么奇怪。而且我们不想专门针对微软。

顺便说一下，每一家，每一家软件公司都是如此，随便选一家 X 公司。他们，他们不是，他们购买这些许可证，只是因为他们，呃，觉得自己应该购买更多许可证。更多人进来，可那里根本没有人。人们没有回办公室，对吧？他们，这只是在寻找真相。第1原则是真相。然后透明度是第2，我想，在清单上是这样，对吧？

所以，找出真相，把它公之于众，让它透明。第3是，天哪，迅速行动。提高效率，并且要有紧迫感。是的，这些，这些就是埃隆给 DOGE 定下的原则。是的，值得指出的是，比如，比如，你其实很难，你必须重新校准自己对事情能有多愚蠢的认知，因为这是政府，你知道，坦率地说，它比你认为有可能出现的情况还要愚蠢。

嗯，所以，你知道，比如说，我们发现有一大堆我所说的，呃，幽灵付款持续流出，嗯，其中政府合同官员已经退休，或者换了工作，或者已经去世，或者，我不知道，他们已经不在那里了，而他们忘记关闭向某家公司付款的资金流，这就像让钱的水龙头一直开着，而你，你知道，离开了房子，你知道，然后这个钱的水龙头就一直流，而会抱怨自己收到钱的组织相当少见。

嗯，所以组织，所以接下来你会问，那是欺诈的浪费吗？我是说，政府没有把钱发给他们，但他们不应得这笔钱。嗯，所以，那么，好吧，我们，但如果合同结束了，我们就应该关掉资金龙头，你知道，类似这样的事情。

嗯，所以我们，我们向，呃，财政部提出的一项建议是，呃，把，呃，付款分类代码以及付款说明设为必填字段。嗯，所以，所以就这样，并附上一个姓名。这样我们就可以直接询问批准付款的人：这笔付款是一笔好，一笔合理的付款吗？这说得通吗？

这类事情对个人和公司来说，你知道，都是正常的。嗯，但，呃，事实并非如此。呃，所以政府无法通过审计的原因，是通过审计所必需的信息并不存在，比如这实际上是不可能的，嗯，因为你只有所有这些空白支票不断发出去，没有任何说明，也没有付款代码。

所以你要怎么做审计？这实际上是不可能的。所以这就是我的意思，比如，这都是非常基础的事情，比如我们只是希望国会拨款付款代码成为必填项，并附上一段非常简短的说明。我们甚至不会评判说明的内容，但只要有任何说明，并且附上一个姓名，就曾像是一项革命性的举措。

嗯，而且而且我猜这可能每年会节省1000亿美元，这很多，你知道。所以也许我可以讲一个来自社会保障管理局的小故事，大家可能也愿意听，就是，嗯，在在社会保障管理局，它们实际上通过了审计，它们有，我不知道，大约100项重大缺陷，但它们通过了审计。

呃，当我们查看资产负债表时，嗯，我们发现去年有8亿美元从资产负债表上掉下去了。8亿美元。你说从资产负债表上掉下去了是什么意思？这正是我问埃隆的问题。谢谢。掉到哪里去了？没错。掉到哪里去了？于是我我我请审计人员进来。这就像一段喜剧小品，你知道，这里像是在演喜剧。它去哪儿了？没错。但等等，它去哪儿了？没错。

事情是这样的。我我我把，我请审计人员进来。我，我不会说审计人员的名字。请进。然后我亲自问了审计合伙人。它去哪儿了？从资产负债表上掉下去了是什么意思？这是一个缺口术语，还是非 GAAP 术语？我从没听说过。它是什么意思？

嗯，付款计划是因为，嗯，在上一届政府执政期间，呃，如果你欠款——如果你的社会保障金被多付了，比如，如果你——如果你在领取，嗯，如果你在领取 SSI 或残障福利，而他们付给你的钱太多了，你找到了一份工作却没有告诉他们，他们就会付给你太多钱，他们把那项付款计划降到了每月最高 $10。因此，这些付款计划延伸到了系统日期之后。

所以，如果我没记错，是2047项付款计划超过了系统日期。当它超过系统日期后，它真的就从系统里掉出去了。呃，好吧，它消失了，而那些，呃，工作人员本来应该——人们，那些技术人员本来应该在，嗯，在系统里添加备注，说明这笔钱将被收回。那些备注糟糕透顶，以至于审计人员认定这笔钱无法收回，而我们真的损失了8亿美元，没了。

我对审计员说：“这怎么可能呢？”她说：“嗯，你知道，这其实不算重大。这是一个1.5万亿美元的项目。”我说：“好吧，如果那是你的钱，那就重大了。它在电脑里吗？它不在电脑里。它从电脑里掉出去了。它在电脑里。那台在电脑里的电脑。消失了。8亿美元就这么消失了。”我是说，这太疯狂了。

所以，就像这样，一件疯狂的事接着另一件。嗯，是啊。这，呃，是啊，我是说，这太疯狂了。不管怎样，我们只是——我们基本上只是想修好这些电脑，以便我们知道到底发生了什么。嗯，是啊，这就像，拜托，而且，而且，而且你知道，就像我说的，要完全跨……——我们对美国人民保持完全透明，这样你就能确切知道发生了什么。

嗯，而且，呃，只是——只是确保，呃，你知道，是啊，不管怎样，钱没有被浪费或欺诈。嗯，你知道，有一项有趣的统计数据是，打进社会保障部门的电话中有40%是欺诈性的，比如说，意思是那——那——那是有人试图把原本要付给一位老年人的，呃，一笔社会保障金，转而付给一个——付给一个诈骗团伙。所以，几乎一半的电话都是欺诈性的。

可能另一半是那些在问我的社会保障怎么了的人。这其实是真的。比如我的什么去哪儿了？这太离谱了。是的。而且，我是说，我们实际上发现，S Street 那里的人知道这件事正在发生。

嗯，而且他们对此抱怨了很长时间，却没有人修复它，因为——而这些是——这些是，呃，大多位于国外的犯罪团伙，嗯，在世界上的其他——其他地方，他们正在堵塞电话系统，打电话进来，只使用这些简单的安全问题，因为实际上可以——这就是它疯狂到什么程度。

你只需要在电话里回答6个问题，就可以更改你在社会保障部门的直接存款信息，比如你母亲的婚前姓氏、你的出生日期等。就是那些你能在互联网上找到、在暗网上很容易找到的东西。这就是为什么它如此容易。这是一个巨大、巨大的可乘之机，一扇敞得不能再敞的大门。我是说，银行金库是开着的，罪犯直接冲进去拿走了钱，而且他们从我们的老年人那里拿走了钱。对。

所以发生的情况是，比如我父亲84岁，他会去取它，以为查过了，银行账户里却没有。然后他就必须走完整个——走一整套流程，才能从政府那里把钱拿回来，而这要花很长时间。这可是政府，对吧？所以我们实施了一个非常简单的2FA系统。你们在媒体上看到的所有这些关于我们关闭了电话线路的胡说八道，都不是真的。

我们所做的——他们实际所做的全部事情就是，我们——我们建议社会保障部门实施，呃，一个非常简单的2FA系统，而他们会——双——双因素认证，双因素化。他们——和银行做的是同一种事，比如非常简单。你有一个银行账户，你就会这样做。而且你知道吗？他们做了。他们说：“是啊，你说得对。我们应该这么做。”他们就去做了。这点值得肯定。他们做了。以前没人有意愿去做。

他们做了。而且他们会继续提高安全性。他们已经——我们给了他们——我们已经给了他们多得多的建议，而且他们正在提高安全性的道路上前进，以制止所有这些胡说八道，这样我们的——我们的老年人和我们的——我们的残障人士就不会被偷走东西。是啊，这一点真的值得强调。嗯，因为，比如你知道，那些激进左派声称，好像不知怎么的我们在窃取社会保障金。

比如首先，你知道，我——我不需要这笔钱。好吧。嗯，事实上，呃，做这份工作让我付出了很多代价。呃，你知道，你们看到那个 Tim Walls，呃，在台上跳舞，展示一张 Tesla 股票的图表。呃，他这么做真的是，呃，非常恶劣，嗯，你知道，因为他们试图做的是对——对，嗯，我和——还有 Tesla 施加巨大压力，我猜是为了——为了，你知道，我不知道，让我们停止——停止做这件事。

嗯，但是，呃，你知道，这——你知道，我的——我的 Tesla 股票，以及每个持有 Tesla 股票的人的股票，都已经——跌到了大约一半。我的意思是，这是一件大事。所以，不——不仅我没有得到任何——任何——我没有领薪水，绝对没有偷钱，而且永远不可能做了还能脱身。嗯，但我的 Tesla 股票价值已经减半了。所以，我想说的是，这是一份代价非常高昂的工作。嗯，而且，但是——但是我认为这——这——这，[掌声] 欢迎。谢谢。

谢谢。谢谢。[掌声] 非常感谢大家。嗯，所以，不过从长远来看，我认为 Tesla 的股票会表现不错。呃，所以，呃，你知道，也许这是个买入机会。嗯，所以，嗯，但但我们实际在做的事情是确保，嗯，人们确实能拿到他们的社会保障金，而且它不会被偷走。嗯，所以，100%。对。对。抱歉。请讲。你好，埃隆。我有个关于 Dodge 的问题要问你。好棒的衬衫。

嗯，这个房间里的每个人都有一大笔钱，放在许多不同州的一堆小盒子里，而当你在网上提到你要去检查我们的黄金时，却变得鸦雀无声。我担心民主党人和乔·拜登的上一届政府，担心那些钱已经不在那里了。你受到阻挠了吗，还是仍然能够去检查？先生，我不确定我完全明白你指的是什么。

诺克斯堡。哦，诺克斯堡。哦，对。对，对，对。没错。哦，对。对。嗯，当然，那得由总统决定。呃，但我认为那会，我我认为直播诺克斯堡会非常棒，你知道。我的意思是，那会非常有趣。而而且毕竟，它它它实际上是美国人民的黄金。所以在我看来，美国人民应该有权看到他们的黄金。你知道，希望它看起来真的很酷。

嗯，你知道，打开大门，比如，那是真的吗，那真是黄金吗？让我们检查一下，嗯，你知道，所以也许这会非常非常有意思。呃，我我完全赞成。总统说他他有兴趣这么做。所以希望这会发生。那么，好，晚上好，马斯克先生。您好吗？很好。最近怎么样？很好。很好。我叫维托·加布里埃尔。嗯，我18岁。这是我第一次参加投票的选举。所以，太好了。非常令人兴奋。

哦，其实，呃，那那那提醒了我。所以，实际上，呃，可以既在星期二登记投票。嗯，如果有人尚未登记投票，他们可以在威斯康星州登记投票，而且可以当天投票。所以，即使某人不是登记选民，也可以在星期二把一切都办完。呃，先说一点背景。

呃，我小时候，准确地说是8岁时，我父亲让我到家里的餐馆干活，而，嗯，这让我想创办自己的企业，并像你一样取得成功。而在我看来，你是有史以来最成功的商人之一。那么，对于那些想创办自己的，呃，企业，并回馈这个伟大国家的年轻创业者，你会给出什么建议？嗯，当然。

嗯，创办一家企业并让它成功是是非常非常困难的。嗯，你知道，确实，大多数创办起来的企业都不会成功。嗯，所以，我的意思是，我我想我真的只会说，你知道，如果如果有一种产品或服务是你认为，呃，确实需要的，嗯，那么你你就出去，你你你做出那种产品，或者你提供那种服务，推出那种服务。嗯，而且，呃，而且真的要尽量发挥最大的用处。

嗯，你知道，有，这这就像，不管你知道，是是一家很棒的餐馆或商店，还是一家科技公司，或者无论是什么情况。嗯，真正的问题就是，你做的事情对你的同胞有没有用。嗯，而且，你知道，如果如果有用，那么我认为公司就会成功。嗯，所以归根结底，真真正正重要的就是发挥作用。比如，人们会问我，最重要的建议是什么？

我会说，努力发挥作用。真正做到有用实际上非常困难，呃。嗯，你知道，嗯，但你知道，我非常钦佩任何只是老老实实干满一天活的人，嗯，你知道，为自己的同胞制造产品或或提供服务。嗯，公司就是这个，你知道，就就是这样。所以，嗯，但但是这这很难。

我的意思是，我的意思是，完全坦率地说，比如，我我通常会说，如果如果某人需要鼓励，呃，才能创办公司，我会建议不要，并开始不要创办公司。嗯，这这这，呃，这非常困难，比如，你知道，如果看看汽车行业，唯二没有破产的，嗯，美国汽车公司，呃，是 Tesla 和福特。所以，我想说的是，那那那是一大片墓地。

所以那是个艰难的行业，你知道，非常非常艰难的行业。嗯，而且在 SpaceX 之前，真的没有什么成功的商业火箭公司。嗯，让产出的价值超过投入的成本通常非常困难。而那那其实就是成功企业的定义。嗯，而而而利润其实就是产出的价值与投入的成本之间的差额。

嗯，那那就是利润。嗯，所以，但让产出比投入更有价值，这这难得令人震惊。这就是我的发现。嗯，对。那么，好。你好，埃隆。非常感谢你来到这里。嗯，你是否同意我的看法，即这个国家在经济方面的无知程度令人震惊？人们不明白我们有多接近。我会说，美国，离越过财政悬崖。对。没错。嗯，是的。

大多数人其实，我想大多数人，嗯，我想很多人不知道国债是什么。嗯，比如这笔国债是怎么产生的，还有为什么会有这么多不知怎么就成了我们所欠的钱，可我们并没有同意要欠这笔钱。嗯，但国债有超过30万亿美元，而那还不包括，呃，未来的义务。

呃，所以，而且那还没有算上州级以及州和地方债务。所以这，这基本上是一大笔钱，是政府让美国所有人都背上的。嗯，而且，嗯，是的，所以，如果我们，如果我们不采取措施，那么最终就不会有任何钱可以用在任何事情上了。我们只会一直支付利息。嗯，你知道，一家公司，所以我应该说，一个国家很像一个人。它只是，它只是更大。

一，一个国家是人的集合。嗯，但就像一个人可能破产一样，一个国，一个国，一个国家作为整体实际上也可能破产。嗯，本质上是通过稀释货币，让它变得一文不值。嗯，而这就是我们正在走向的方向，除非，呃，我们，呃，在政府支出方面采取，你知道，立即而大刀阔斧的行动。嗯，那就是，我们，我们基本上深陷困境。你们在委内瑞拉之类的地方见过这种情况。

是的，没错。嗯，所以，在很多国家都可以看到，在那里，呃，事情已经一团糟，而，呃，就好像我们只需要别那么做，你知道。嗯，所以，如果，你知道，如果美国这艘船沉了，我们所有人都会跟着沉。你知道，这就是我试图告诉商业领域人士的事情，比如，如果美国这艘船沉了，你，你的公司是不可能撑下去的。

所以，我们所有人都得，比如，你知道，在这里共同努力，确保它不会沉。是的。[掌声] 安东尼奥，你可以按自己的意愿随意添加肝脏，但我，这是唯一剩下可以去的地方。那太好了。对。没错。比如，我不认为我们可以逃到其他某个国家，然后安然无恙。这里是美国，你知道。我，我会死在美国。我哪儿也不去。我，我也会。是的。我的意思是，我或许会去火星，但那会是[笑声]美国的一部分。

是的。[掌声] 嗨，埃隆。非常感谢你从繁忙的日程中抽出时间，今天来到威斯康星州绿湾与我们相聚。是的。嗯，我只想说，DOA 的调查结果向美国人民表明，政府显然并不在乎我们辛苦赚来的税款。我，我只有26岁。

嗯，但我可以想象，对于那些工作了一辈子，却看到自己的税款流向欺诈、浪费和滥用的人来说，这是令人沮丧的。而你一个人已经，呃，通过税收为我们的政府贡献了如此多的钱。是的。所以，谢谢你。不客气。但很抱歉，你的钱没有得到很好的使用。

嗯，我，你已经清楚地表明，你的领导力和团队有能力把我们的政府改造成比我们今天看到的更好的样子。嗯，我只想说，嗯，嗯，我相信不只是我一个人在想，但我们知道 DOGE 已经找到了相当多的钱，我们希望看到其中一部分返还给美国人民。你是否掌握任何关于 DOGE 支票将在何时开出或寄出的信息？当然。

嗯，我，我想我们，我们需要取得大规模的成功。我们已经取得了很大进展，嗯，但仍有海量工作要做。嗯，实际上，随着政府支出变得更有效率并且支出减少，纳税人的通胀就会下降，嗯，所以，嗯，无论如何，如果美国的资源没有被浪费，你，你实际上都会过得更好，呃。

嗯，所以，嗯，而且这，这，这，这是，你知道，这在一定程度上取决于国会，或许还有总统，呃，你知道，决定是否开出具体的支票，但，但无论是否开出支票，如果你，如果你减少，嗯，呃，浪费性支出，呃，经济都会变得更好。人们会从事比以前更有用的工作。商品和服务的总产出会增加，然后平均生活水平也会提高。

所以，那，那就是，呃，是的，嗯，我，我认为经济学中最重要的教训就是，呃，常识：一个国家中从事生产有用产品和服务的人越多，这个国家的状况就会越好。嗯，比如你可以，你可以做这样一种思想实验，假设推到极限，如果我们把汽车行业里的所有人都调到机动车管理局，那就不会有汽车，但会有很多监管人员。

所以接着你会说，好吧，那么政府里应该有多少人，而不在政府里又应该有多少人。嗯，总的来说，我认为你会希望，你会希望尽量减少政府里的人数。政府里仍然会有，你知道，很多人，但你会希望把人数保持在最低限度，并让人们从低生产力乃至负生产力的岗位转到私营部门的高生产力岗位。是的。嘿，埃隆。

所以，我第一次听说人口崩溃，我想是从你和乔·罗根那里听到的。我成长的那个年代非常强调人口过剩、全球变暖，很多人不想要孩子。我和妻子刚有了我们的第一个孩子，她1岁了。嗨，恭喜。嗨，约翰。谢谢。太棒了。嗯，我很快就发现，关于生孩子别人告诉我的很多事情，比如会失去个人自由，但生孩子非常值得。

我的意思是，我会向所有人推荐，我相信你也会，而我们……当然。我的意思是，我多年来一直在敲响生育的鼓。是的。嗯，所以我想问你，你从孩子们身上学到的最令人惊讶、最有满足感的事情是什么？尤其是，我们看到你一直带着X在特朗普身边。所以，有了孩子以后，你学到的最让你感到满足的事情是什么？呃，对，X就在后面那里。

他，你知道，所以希望他正在看这个，希望如此。嗯，是的，我认为，你知道，我认为真的没有什么比孩子更能让你快乐，这就是事实。所以，嗯，你知道，孩子是我最大的快乐源泉。嗯，而且，呃，正如安东尼奥所知道的，我真的鼓励过我所有的朋友和每一个人去生孩子。呃，令人担忧的是，你知道，美国的生育率一直低于，呃，人口更替水平。

美国的生育率自从，呃，大约我出生的时候，也就是197071年左右，就一直低于人口更替水平。嗯，而且我想去年是有记录以来生育率最低的一年。那非常……那非常低。嗯，然后我们，我们在，呃，地球上几乎每个国家都看到了这种趋势。这，这令人担忧，因为就像，嗯，你知道，如果没有什么事情发生，你知道，人类将会消失。

嗯，所以我认为生孩子非常重要。嗯，就像，这，这，你知道，孩子会让你非常快乐，而且，而且还有一点就是，我们得让人类在这里延续下去，你知道。呃，没有人，就没有人类。顺便说一句，埃隆也身体力行。他有很多孩子。没错。你身体力行，而且……是的。是的。当然。而且他也让所有朋友这么做。

这点我可以肯定地告诉你。肯定。是的。那么，好吧。你好，谢谢你过来。呃，我叫亚当。我是一名邮政工作人员。我想知道，你能否谈谈DOGE可能会针对邮政服务研究哪些改革或变动。嗯，其实，也许我可以问问你，DOGE在邮政服务方面应该做些什么？我，我会给你写封信。好的。好的。

嗯，我，我，我猜，我猜想你已经看到邮政服务中的情况并非尽善尽美。嗯，是的。嗯，所以我的意思是，显然，投递，嗯，信件和包裹非常重要。呃，你知道，邮政服务的设立是有原因的。嗯，但是，呃，而且，而且我还没有真正找到机会研究邮政服务，不过，呃，如果你愿意，我对分析有一点细节。你确实了解一点吗？好的。

当然。是的。我的意思是，我不会说……我想在这里说得非常笼统一点，但，嗯，有这么一件事，你可以告诉我们，比如，呃，有这么一个关于邮政服务的大批量用户和小、小批量用户的问题，对吧，所以比如某家公司，请……我听说过这个。是的。是的。我的意思是，你大概亲眼见过，对吧？

比如你会看到，世界上有些公司大量使用邮政服务，却和这个房间里那些只用一点点的人支付同样的费率。你觉得这公平吗？你在一线亲眼看到这些。我实在不能说。嗯，他不能说，因为他在那里工作。你知道，在那里工作。好的。我觉得这不公平。我不在那里工作。

嗯，所以我的意思是，这，这里有问……人们正在提出一系列这方面的问题，我认为这些都是有意思的分析，而当你查看事实来源和数据，并且，呃，让这些变得透明时，我认为正确答案会一目了然。是的。看起来有些公司没有为包裹投递支付正确的费用。嗯，而且行政管理成本可能比应有的更多。

嗯，我猜这些应该算是比较稳妥的猜测。那些猜得不错。是的。是的。是的。猜得不错。好了。埃隆，你好吗？哟，很好。最近怎么样？我是亚当，X上你的头号回复达人。嘿，我是斯科特·普雷瑟。很高兴终于在线下见到你。酷。所以，我很高兴你喜欢我的很多内容。是的。你一直回复我的内容，给我的内容点赞，而且我很想创作素材，因为我本人以前也是民主党人，就和你一样。

是的。而且我想帮助争取民主党内那些被剥夺权利的温和派选民。是的。我很希望能够创作更多内容来帮助你，帮助我们赢得更多选举，赢得中期选举、2028年以及之后的选举。嗯，我能不能得到你主账号的关注，因为你曾经用以前那个cyber gamer账号关注过我？哦，我关注过。好的。嗯，是的。呃，现在我，我，我……是的，当然。我，我会关注的。当然。

嗯，我的意思是，现在的情况是，我以前可能只关注，嗯，你知道，几百个账号，因此还有可能读到他们发布的很多内容、大部分内容，但现在我想我关注了大约1100个账号，这就不可能了。所以，所以就像，我基本上只能随机看到人们发布的少数内容。嗯，所以，嗯，是的，但我，我正在努力消化我的人脑所能处理的尽可能多的信息。

呃，所以，嗯，不过，是的，感谢你的参与。嗯，还有，呃，就是，你知道，总的来说，努力去，嗯，报道真正正在发生的事情，这这这很棒。谢谢。谢谢。嗯，马斯特先生，非常感谢你来到这里，并让大家关注我们这里最高法院正在发生的事情。

这非常重要，而且我认为，如果你没有介入，无论是负面报道还是正面报道，它都不会获得什么关注，甚至连现在所获关注的一半都不到。我们认为不，完全正确，完全如此。我的意思是，显然，任何一种特别选举，嗯，所获得的关注都会只是比如总统选举的一小部分，很小一部分。

嗯，然后，呃，而且而且，你知道，通常一场法官选举不会是什么大事。嗯，只是碰巧在这个案子中，它可能决定美国众议院的控制权。嗯，这可是，是的，一件大事。是的。是的。还有我与克劳福德法官的亲身经历。嗯，我是一个家庭，呃，她把一个恋童癖者安置在了紧挨着我们家的地方。什么？真的吗？是的。

你从希姆尔先生的广告中听到的是真实的故事。我就是，哇，那些在毫不知情的情况下不得不与他为邻生活多年的房主之一。嗯，所以，我写给她的信，我确信对我们如今在家庭法庭中所经历的事情产生了影响。嗯，家庭，嗯，我们是服役了20年的退伍军人。这对他来说就是不好。这对我来说也不好。而且，嗯，我们正在努力处理我们的家庭法庭状况。

但我们意识到，他们使用的2种策略是灌输或恐吓。而如果你站出来说，我们是践行信仰的天主教家庭，结果就是她那帮玛丽流氓法官，嗯，以及法院关联人员和专员会，嗯，涌入家庭法庭，已经涌入了家庭法庭系统。是的。

所以，我想我的问题是，嗯，无论这场非常重要的投票结果如何，都不要忘记威斯康星州戴恩县的家庭法庭系统中正在发生的事情，那里正被这些流氓法官、关联人员和专员淹没；如果你不认同他们所说的，他们就会彻底剥夺你抚养家庭的能力，或者剥夺你按照你认为，嗯，你的文化所规定的、规定的，你的宗教所规定的、你的你的经济背景所规定的方式与家人继续生活的能力。

嗯，事情已经彻底疯了，而且，嗯，我想知道你能做些什么，让聚光灯继续照在我们戴恩县的法院系统上。这确实会对家庭产生持久影响，而且会逐渐消灭我们本着自己认为对我们的年轻人、我们的孩子，嗯，以及以及我们家庭的神圣性最健康的精神来养育家庭的能力。绝对如此。

嗯，我认为这对，呃，生命、自由和追求幸福来说是根本性的，而这些是美国的根基；你知道，那那个，你你应该对自己的家庭拥有控制权，而不是让州政府控制。州政府不应该控制你的家庭。竟然有人会这么想，简直疯了。[掌声] 所以，呃，我们有朋友因此不得不逃离加利福尼亚州。是的。是的。

我的意思是，他们真的不得不离开，因为州政府试图支配他们的孩子，因为他们正把州政府的价值观强加给孩子，而他们真的不得不连夜离开。不止一位朋友。我们听过这个故事。真的吗？真的吗？嗯，是的。我知道。

加利福尼亚州有一个事情，修改了法律，嗯，如果教师认定，呃，这符合孩子的利益，比如，比如，如果你不尊重，比如，你知道，我不知道，一个10岁孩子的代词之类的，那这个，比如，州政府就可以在加利福尼亚州带走你的孩子。所以这这太疯狂了。嗯，你知道，这这这是州政府、州政府强制灌输。

嗯，而且如果你，如果你不符合他们的，呃，你知道，不管州政府想要什么，那么他们就可以在加利福尼亚州带走你的孩子。这是件大事。是的。完全正确。这是一个，所以，应该就是，你知道，家庭应该掌控自己的处境，而不应该由政府，呃，决定你的孩子应当如何被抚养。[掌声] 嘿，埃伦，我叫乔希。有很多问题。

我看到现在我们会回答所有问题。所以我……请讲。抱歉。请讲。谢谢你接受提问。尽管很多人……我同意。所以我只是，我想问，我看到，我注意到星港正在建造另一座、第二座 Mechzilla。呃，我们会为即将到来的 Aremis 任务准备发射吗？我……这是一个非常非常偏太空的问题。

嗯，所以那里有，那里那里有，嗯，那里，对，南得克萨斯州有2座塔，然后，然后我们计划在佛罗里达州的卡纳维拉尔角建造2座塔。呃，未来可能还会在其他地方再建一些。但卡纳维拉尔角会有双塔，南得克萨斯州星港也会有双塔。那么，好。嘿，埃隆，很高兴见到你。感谢你为这个国家和世界所做的一切。谢谢。

我，我有2个问题。他们让我简短一点。可以。嗯，第1，你预计什么时候，什么时候能解决失明问题，并把它普及到大众，让所有人都能用上？另一个是，自动驾驶出租车是否按计划推进？是的。呃，今晚的问题范围当然非常广。这个……是的。

那么，关于 Neuralink，我们，我们实际上已经，嗯，Neuralink 已经在猴子身上有了一个能工作的，嗯，呃，你知道，我们称为“盲视”的设备，嗯，它一直运行良好，而且猴子几年来一直很健康，我们希望，嗯，今年晚些时候进行首次人体设备植入，让一位完全失明的人能够看见。嗯，但一开始分辨率会很低，就像雅达利游戏画面，你知道。

所以，我想恰当地设定预期。呃，所以一开始会是像，像非常低的分辨率，但随着时间推移，我认为最终，呃，这种植入物将能带来超人般的视力。嗯，所以那会，那会非常酷。嗯，然后，是的，我认为他们目前仍按计划在6月于奥斯汀实现，嗯，无人监督的完全自动驾驶。所以我，我想我们大概会，我们会，我们会再回答大约4个问题。

那么那边2个，这边2个，然后我们今晚就到这里。请讲。哦，非常感谢。首先，你绝对是超越传奇的存在，也是一位真正的英雄。所以非常感谢你正在做、正在实现、正在完成的一切。你完成了如此多不可能之事。令人惊叹。谢谢。

但我叫布赖恩·赖特，从去年一直到今年，我一直在拍摄一部关于寻找和平的纪录剧集。而在这个选举年里，呃，这一集讲的是，为了能够找到和平，我们究竟需要跨越多少条界线？我想问你，你觉得我们在这种，这种分裂中处于什么位置？我们是否已经分裂得太远，以至于无法回到中间，还是你认为我们现在处于什么状态？

是的，我们，我们应该恢复《史密斯法案》，这样我们，政府就不能监视人民或向人民发布宣传。嗯，所以，嗯，是的，嗯，我不知道。我的意思是，我，我，我一度觉得我们在朝着好的方向前进，呃，持续了一段时间，然后，然后在过去，你知道，大约1个月里，发生了这些像，像针对 Tesla 的疯狂暴力事件，还有抗议我之类的事。

然后我就想，这简直疯了，你知道，而且，而且，而且，呃，你知道，很多人举着标牌到处游行，说，你知道，特朗普总统和，呃，伊拉马斯应该去死之类的话。然后我就想，这真的疯了，你知道。

嗯，但我认为真正的问题是，像，是谁，像是谁在组织并资助那些，像那些组织并资助了，你知道，那些渗透者的人，呃，你知道，就是今晚早些时候那些起哄的人。所以，是，是，是不管他们是谁，你知道。嗯，我想我们知道其中一些人的名字，但这真的……是的。是的。苏斯以及其他一群人。

嗯，嗯，我真的不确定，有时我会想，他们的目标是什么，像，他们的，他们的，他们的目的是什么，你知道，我想，这是否是共产主义，我猜这是其中一部分，或者只是，我不知道，嗯，有时我会想，像，他们有没有把自己正在做的事想清楚，如果假设他们实现了目标，然后呢，然后怎么办，你知道，嗯，所以我，我不知道，我希望事情能平静下来，希望大家能，嗯，你知道，我们衡量，人们进行像对话那样的交流，而不是，不是暴力。

嗯，而且，你知道，如果，呃，对于那些确实推动暴力，嗯，以及破坏财产和恐吓的人，显然他们，他们需要为此承担，呃，法律后果。嗯，所以，嗯，而且，而且，而且，总统已经，已经说过，你知道，那，那需要发生。显然，如果有人推动暴力，嗯，以及破坏财产，那，那是违法的，而且，而且他们，他们需要承担那样做的后，后果。所以谢谢。

是的。谢谢你，埃隆。嗯，我不断听到有人说，Doge 的行动，嗯，将会做一些事情，比如取消社会保障金，并削减其他类似的政府付款。你今晚提到过这一点，但是，是的。你能不能说明一下，你，你在过去几个月里已经详细讨论过这个问题。你能不能再，再谈谈 Doge 的行动实际上会如何影响这些付款以及其他类似项目？

是的，我，我，我想这会有帮助，因为，所以，所以我可以尽可能简洁清楚地说明。呃，Doge 将，将绝对确保人们拿到他们的社会保障金，确保他们拿到社会保障金，确保他们拿到医疗补助，嗯，而且绝不会削减任何合法付款。非常清楚。我只想再补充一点。

我，我一直在那里，呃，在那里工作，我在那里工作的最初大约3或4周是在伍德兰兹，实际上是在社会保障局工作。嗯，你所说的100%是真的。实际工作中没有发生任何会影响向那些依法应得这些付款的人发放款项水平的事情。就这样。很多事情将会发生在那些从系统中偷钱的人身上。是的。是的。他们拿不到这些付款。

你知道是谁在尖叫吗？是他们。因为他们正在实施欺诈，我们应该把那东西从他们手中夺走，因为他们正在从这个房间里的我们所有人以及我们的父母那里偷窃，而且他们会大声尖叫，声音还会越来越大。但是，但是谢谢，谢谢你问这个问题，因为它，你知道，尽管听起来很显而易见，它，它是，它是一个，它是一个很好的问题，因为我们就是需要非常简洁、清楚。

呃，DOGE会确保你拿到社会保障金。那些会确保你获得医疗补助。对任何合法款项都不会有削减。如果其他几位先生不介意的话，我想最后一个来。能……您想先来吗，先生？请来吧。谢谢您，马斯克先生。非常感谢您来到威斯康星州。嗯，我只想感谢您在X上指出那些糟糕的想法。

你大概每隔30分钟就会这么做，如果我没看到什么，我就会想：“哇，你一个人。”好吧。对。嗯，对。我们都知道，思想会带来后果，而糟糕的思想会产生受害者。而且，嗯，谢谢你为受害者发声。

几天前，你在接受布雷特·贝尔采访时和他交谈，他问你什么事情让你夜不能寐，而就像刚才那个问题一样，你回答了，然后停顿了一下，说的是人口减少。我当时等着你说类似：“哦，针对我的死亡威胁，或者，呃，国债，或者……”但你说的是人口减少。是的，人口减少是一件非常重大的事情。它并未进入人们的关注范围。为什么会这样？

嗯，我认为，我认为我们，我们还没有进化到能够应对人口减少。你知道，这，这是一个，我想，呃，这是我们最好进化到能够应对的事情，呃，否则，否则我们就会消失。嗯，而且，而且人口减少这个球一旦开始滚动，你知道，它似乎就会不断加速。

我的意思是，你可以看看韩国和日本之类的案例，它们，嗯，你知道，远远走在前面，或者落在后面，取决于你怎么看，但那里的人口下降要严重得多。日本正处于绝对的出版人口下降之中。所以，他们每年正在损失大约，我想，粗略来说，超过人口的100万人，而且这还会加速。

嗯，韩国的世代更替率只有三分之一，这意味着再过3代，这个国家将只剩目前规模的3%或4%。比如，基本上剩下的只会是首都的一小部分。嗯，所以，而且我一直在等待出生率回升，但它没有。嗯，人口崩塌似乎会加速。嗯，而且，呃，这就是为什么我认为这，这是一个非常严重的问题。

这，这，如果你多少相信人类，你就应该非常关心这件事。嗯，然后，你知道，那是某种，但那个，你知道，那是一件某种长期的事情，而短期的事情是，是仍然，是美国需要保持财政偿付能力。嗯，你知道，那，那就是DOGE的目的，努力确保美国具备财政偿付能力，而且，嗯，此外还有AI的风险。

呃，所以我们想确保AI最大限度地追求真相，嗯，而且，你知道，理想情况下，它具备某种大多数美国人都会认同的价值观。嗯，以及它是一个亲人类的，呃，AI，它希望促进人类的未来。嗯，你知道，那些，那些就是我思考的事情。那么谢谢你，埃隆。我叫马特·霍斯，就像《大淘金》里的大霍斯。我，呃，在福克斯谷这里拥有并经营一家小企业。

嗯，明天我实际上有幸也有这份荣幸，在我们的店里，也就是Springetti Landscaping，接待布拉德·希姆尔。如果有人在谷区，听起来不错。明天4 4:30过来吧。我们要办场聚会，让布拉德过来。他会来做个简短演讲，弄些，呃，一些……这场活动本来就是为了布拉德的选举。所以我只想问，在你看来，布拉德会为像我这样的小企业主做些什么？

嗯，我认为他会帮助政府别再来烦你。呃，所以这是一件大事。嗯，你知道，对任何创业的人来说，你知道，就像以前你可以直接开一家店，而不用取得大概无数种许可证、执照和所有东西。呃，你知道，美国就是这样，你想制造一种产品，就直接制造那种产品。

嗯，而且你不必满足一大套法规，也不必从各种机构那里取得许可。所以希望，嗯，希姆尔法官，呃，你知道，支持这一点，并帮助政府别再来烦你。好的。那么请让我，呃，最后说一句，显然是在州层面。对，那些是在州层面，会很不错。嗯，但是，呃，只要，只要记住，就像，星期二这场选举的重要性极其巨大。

它可能，它可能会决定众，众议院的未来。它进而可能决定美国的未来和世界的未来。所以，绝对至关重要，呃，你们真的，你们就是需要拽着亲朋好友在星期二出来投票，呃，投给希姆尔法官，也投票支持选民身份证。所以，谢谢。谢谢大家。谢谢。谢谢。[音乐]我不想工作。我想整天敲敲打打。[掌声]

Hello everybody. Hello. Hello. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, welcome to Elon Musk's Green Bay Town Hall and thank you for signing the petition against activist judges. I mean, this is all about getting out to vote on Tuesday to elect Brad Shiml as the next justice of the Wisconsin Supreme Court. It's so crucial we do that. You know, I've been traveling around with Brad.

And by the way, I don't I don't know and I see Governor Walker here. I know he was a tireless campaigner. I don't know of any candidate that I've seen in my years now in the business campaign more tirelessly than than Brad Shiml. He's just been phenomenal. And you know, he's not doing it for himself. He's doing it to save the court, to save Wisconsin, to save America. Let's let's be honest.

So, so I'm traveling around the bus with him the last couple days and then we do what they call press gaggles and and we go up and talk to the press and every question is about Elon, Elon, Elon, Elon. Now, I don't know, I don't know about you, I think what Donald Trump and Elon Musk is doing in terms of the doge movement is brilliant. What do you guys think?

[Applause] I mean, what what Elon and his group of geniuses is uncovering, it's just it should outrage every American. You know what what what the government has been spending and wasting our money on. I mean, that should be, like I say, outrageous. Every American should be outraged by that, but but the left isn't. No, in instead they're attacking Elon. They're they're they're firebombing his cars in his dealerships.

That by the way, where where's the outrage to that form of domestic terrorism? So that that's really what this is all about. I mean, we've got we've got leftists that want to impose their ideology on us through the court system, right? um they they they don't care who or what they destroy in their quest for power. We can't get let them get away with it. Now, 1. 7 million Wisconsinites voted for Donald Trump, right?

God bless you all for doing that. If you want Donald Trump to be able to serve four years effectively, do do all the things he's doing. And by the way, I can't believe how boldly and swiftly and decisively he is acting to fulfill his campaign promises. But you'll notice you'll notice the activist judges, the the radical leftists, the the super legislators on the courts are issuing national injunctions against what he's trying to do.

what we wanted him to do, what the people elected him to do. We can't let that continue. Now, what should happen is is John Roberts ought to reign those judges in. He ought to take care of his own branch of government. But what we need to do here in Wisconsin is we need to return our Supreme Court to one that has justices and judges. And by that, I mean people who will apply the law, not alter it. We're not looking for super legislators.

And again, it's a real disadvantage conservatives have is, you know, when when I vote to confirm a Supreme Court nominee. I know I'm not going to like some of their judgments because they're ruling based on the law and I don't like some of the laws. The radical leftists, they know exactly what their judges are going to do. And we know exactly what Susan Crawford would do. She will overturn Act 10. Governor Walker's signature achievement.

Save what? billions for Wisconsin taxpayers. She will redistrict. She'll be part of the group that will redistrict Derek Van Orton and Brian Styles districts. We may lose those wonderful members of Congress. We may lose a majority in the House and I do not want to be sitting in a third impeachment trial of a president. That's what we're facing. So, we cannot let that happen.

And again, the good news is we've got a person of integrity, Brad Shiml, working his tail off. He will be that kind of judge that will uphold the law and return the constitutional balance to Wisconsin and help save America. So that's all about again. So every every one of the 1. 7 million Wisconsinites that voted for Donald Trump, you must come out and vote. If you haven't already, vote, come out and vote on Tuesday.

Talk to every friend and family member and neighbor that you know, every email contact, every text contact. Get them all out to vote on Tuesday. There's no reason that we can't have 1. 3, four, five million votes and easily win this election. So, that's what you got to do. Thanks for coming here tonight.

Now, it's my pleasure to introduce a former congressman, another one of our high integrity people who've represented us in Congress and is now representing us in America as the Secretary of the Department of Transportation, Shawn Duffy. [Applause] Hey everybody. [Music] What an amazing crowd. Are we not blessed to have a senator like Ron Johnson? He's amazing. Also somewhere here, Congressman uh Tony Weed is in the house. Tony, where are you?

Right here. H Scott Walker as well in the house. Derek Van Orton, I know, is here too. Our great delegation from Wisconsin. We are blessed to have fighters like that in Washington DC. Now, quick question for you. Is Donald Trump making America great again? Yes, he is. Now, he does have a little bit of help from a guy by the name of Elon Musk. That's true. [Applause] Yeah.

And I would argue he probably has one of the best cabinets ever in recent history. Maybe we're helping as well. I think all of us thought our government and the waste in our government it was we thought it was bad but after DOA's work we can't believe how bad it is. This is horrible. So think Stacy Abrams raises a couple hundred dollars in her climate action fund and then Joe Biden gives her $2 billion for her climate fund.

Elon Musk found that there are 7 million social security uh uh folks on the roles that are o over 120 years old. Unbelievable. And I love what Doge has found at USID. 1. 5 million to advance DEI in Serbia. 2. 5 million for EVs in Vietnam, 32,000 for transgender comic books in Peru, 2 million sex changes and LGBTQ activism in Guatemala. Your hardearned tax money go to garbage like that.

And so I I never thought the left could get more crazy than they actually have become. But before this last election, they all wanted us to drive an EV. They wanted to force us into an EV. After the election, they're burning EVs. How crazy is that? And so I look at this and think, are you all sick of winning? No. If you're not sick of winning, let's not stop winning. And if you don't want to stop winning, this Tuesday is how you do it.

This election couldn't be more important. The country is watching what's going to happen in Wisconsin because you have a radical leftist judge who wants to get rid of school choice. She wants to get rid of voter ID. She wants to redraw congressional lines. She doesn't like parental rights. She wants to obstruct Donald Trump's agenda. She's soft on crime. She doesn't believe in bail. And she believes that criminals are more important than victims.

unacceptable in this great state. And we have Brad Shiml who believes that the law should treat everyone the same. Whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, he's a fair man who's going to impose the law in a way that treats everyone equally, which is what we want as conservatives. And so what you all can do what you all, by the way, are you all going to vote or have you voted? You guys all voted. Okay, you look like a pretty lively group.

So, I imagine all of you at least have five friends, maybe 10. Get your five or 10 friends to the ballot box on Tuesday. And if all of you do that, you get your friends to the ballot box because this is a low voter turnout election. Bring your friends. Bring your family. And if you all turn out on Tuesday with your friends, we are going to win in Wisconsin and send a message to the radical left. Don't mess with Trump. Don't mess with Doge.

Don't mess with Elon. And don't mess with Wisconsin. Let's get it done, everybody. God bless. taking care of business. [Music] Take good care of my business when I'm [Music] away taking care of business. [Music] We've been taking care of working over taking care of business. taking care of business. We be taking care of business.

taking care of working [Music] In the clearing stands a boxer and a fighter by his trade and he carries the glove that made him or cut him till he cried out in his anger and his shame. I am leaving. I'm leaving and still [Music] remains. La line la. [Music] la. [Music] La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la. [Music] Baby. Cry baby.

And I know she told her she loveear [Music] If you ever come on and cry babyelcome [Music] Ain't nobody ever going to love you. Take all your [Music] pain. And if you need me, you know that I'll be right. If you ever come on, [Music] cry like you always seem to do. When you're [Music] walking to your life when you only got do one thing. You only got to do one thing well to make it in this [Music] world. You got a woman.

All you ever got to do is be a good man one time to one woman and that'll be the end. I know you got more tears to share. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. [Music] Ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. We will resume the town hall with Elon Musk shortly. Please prepare your question related to the election after Elon's opening remarks. Please line up behind the folks with the microphones in the aisle.

Thank you for taking your seats. We will begin shortly. Baby, baby, baby. [Music] I know my heart can stay with my love. It's understood. It's in the love [Music] it does it do. [Music] I'll still find somethingwhere. [Music] That was my love. My [Music] love does it good. Oh my love, my love, only my love holds the other key to me. Oh my [Music] love, my love, only my love does it to me. [Music] My love does it.

[Music] I never say goodbye to everywhere with my love. [Music] Does it good? Oh my love. Oh my love. Only my love. [Music] When I was a young boy now, so much older [Music] like there are things we can do babys [Music] feel [Music] like I can't change. Lord, help me. I can't [Music] change Lord. I can't change. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Elon Musk. [Music] Everybody, [Applause] thanks for coming. What do you think of my hat?

All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna sign the hat and I'm going to throw it out. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] All right. All [Applause] right. All right. I love you guys, too. Uh so uh well thank you for coming out in support of this very important um uh Supreme Court uh race in Wisconsin.

Um it's it's actually something that I think it's it's it's one of those things that may seem like it's obviously important in in the state of Wisconsin, but I think it could actually be important uh for the country as well and and maybe for the world. [Applause] So, so the so the the House majority right now is razor thin. It's really just a few seats.

And if um if if the Supreme Court is able to redraw the districts, uh they will they will jerrymander the districts and deprive Wisconsin of two House seats on the Republican side. Yeah, exactly. The result of that could be that the house switches uh to a democratic house. Yes, indeed. Um and then they will try to stop all of the government reforms that we are we're doing and we're getting done for you, the American people.

[Applause] So, so the the reforms that that were getting done in DC, thanks to uh President Trump and his great team, um are are really profound. really the goal is very simple. It's to restore merit um and freedom. So that's that's what it comes down to. So America is the land of of freedom and opportunity. So we want to we want to restore ind individual freedoms, freedom of speech, just in general uh get the government off your back.

Um, so and and then make sure that you succeed in in the United States as a function of your hard work and your talent and nothing else. [Applause] So these are these are really noble and important principles and and also and I'll talk about more about this uh you know all night really as much as as long as you guys want to hear about it. Um but but as as you may as you may have seen with stuff that we've posted on the doge.

gov website and the Doge handle on the X platform, there is a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the federal government. Like shocking really. It's it's insane. Yeah. It's really wild. So Like I mean it was inevitable that at least a few Soros operatives would be in the [Laughter] audience. Give my regards to George. Say hi to George for me. USA. USA. USA. USA. USA. Yep. [Applause] I mean it was inevitable. I was waiting for that one.

So I mean I mean yeah thank you. Thanks guys. Um yeah I mean I I mean isn't it isn't it shocking how much violence and hatred is coming from the left? I mean, isn't this supposed isn't it supposed to be the the party they claim to be, the party of empathy, and yet they're burning they're burning Teslas and shooting up dealerships and calling for the death of the president and me. I'm like, guys, you know, this is this is insane.

Like, they're to gone psycho. I mean, it's really like uh I totally understand if somebody doesn't want to buy a product. Yeah, it's up to you. It was free country, you know, but you don't have to burn it down. Okay. But much that's somebody else's car. Leave it alone. Thanks, [Applause] [Music] [Applause] guys. Yeah. So, man, that the arrangement level on the left is just like it blown my mind, frankly. I mean, I'm like, what is going on?

It's they've just lost it next level. I'm like, um, it's like, whoa. Um, and I I sort of wonder what's, you know, the legacy media is in part to blame for this and maybe primarily to blame for this because, you know, you know, it's really terrible. It's like if if they keep calling, you know, they they've called obviously called President Trump every name in the book.

You know, I think there's one article that that called the president worse than Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin combined. I'm like, uh, actually, President Trump has not killed anyone. In fact, he's very good at stopping wars, not starting them. So, you know, we're really very different. Maybe we need to uh add some more history lessons back in schools because I don't know if people understand uh you know what uh the difference.

Do do they know what Hitler was leading on? It seems they they don't um I mean it's just indicative of the poor quality of of education pushed by the national department of education. So you know we that's why we we we want to restore freedom to the states to this let the states decide on the educational agenda and not have something pushed by a bunch of neo-Marxists in DC.

[Applause] So, I mean, it is astounding how much anti-American propaganda is pushed on on on kids today in schools. It's mind-blowing. It's like, what the hell's going on, you know? So anyway, but on a more positive note, uh we we we have this petition um you know to sort of against uh activist judges because judges should be in simply um interpreting the law and not making the law.

[Applause] Um so in appreciation for the support of uh people in in signing this petition against activist judges, we just want judges to be judges, you know, which is a reasonable thing to ask for. Um and um we're obviously obviously seeing like some crazy stuff in in in DC where uh you know it seems like the it's like any any federal judge can stop any action by the president the you know the of the United States. This is insane.

Like we we this this has got to stop it's got to stop at the federal level and at the state level. Um but let me first hand out two $1 million checks in appreciation. [Applause] Okay, so the first check goes to Nicholas Jacobs. [Applause] All right. [Applause] Now, I should say that the the reason, you know, the reason for the checks is that it's it's really just to get get attention.

It's it's like we we need to get attention and and it's somewhat inevitably um when I do this these things the u you know the the sort of uh it causes the legacy media to like kind of lose their minds and and and and then and then they'll they'll run it on every news channel and I'm like I I couldn't pay them to the it would cost like 10 times more or you know to get the kind of coverage that we get. So, all right. All right. Thank you so much.

[Applause] So, thank you. All right. All right. You can just I guess take it if you want. We'll get We'll get I think we'll get you a real one, too. So, And then the second one, second one is to Eatarina Diesel. Let's see. Hopefully here. So, well, and you know, like I said, this is just helpful for getting it getting attention and then like it's it's kind of fun to see the legacy media lose their minds over it, too. So, love you too. So, yeah.

So, see, hello. Thank you. Congratulations. All right. All right. [Applause] Congratulations. All right. So, we're also uh going to be announcing we are announcing now a a a program uh sort of a a get out the vote program.

Uh that's the web page should be going live uh I think around now uh which is at the America pack website or just go to the America pack uh X account and uh the single biggest challenge I think is actually just making people aware that there is this very important election um and there's both the the very important election for Judge Shimmel as well as the um deciding on on adding voter ID to the Wisconsin Wisconsin constitution.

ition which is very very important. So it's it's really it's quite shocking that I mean you can sort of tell where voter fraud is happening where they ban ID, you know, like why would you ban ID? Like in New York and California it's like illegal to show ID at an election. Well, why would I can't imagine why that would be the case.

So um so two really important things um is uh is really just sure ensured judicial integrity on Tuesday and and then the the voter ID thing and um you know it's April Fool's Day. So uh and it is it's it's like I think most people aren't aware like I said most people aren't aware that there is this important election. Um, most people don't even know that there's an election at all.

Um, and uh, or if they do, they aren't sure exactly when and where it is. Uh, and they aren't sure yet of or they don't realize just how important it is. Um, they think it it's well, it's just, you know, some kind of judicial thing that's not that important, but it actually what they're do what what's happening on Tuesday is a vote for uh, the the which party controls the US House of House of Representatives.

That is why it is so so significant and whichever party controls the house uh you know it it it to a significant degree controls the country which then steers the course of western civilization. So it's like I I feel like this is one of those things that that may not seem that it's going to affect the entire destiny of humanity but I think it will. No pressure. Yeah. So, um, it's it's a super it's a super big deal.

And and the the fact that I'm here in person, like I'm not phoning it in. I'm here in person. I'm And there. Yeah. So, and there there were quite a few death threats, I have to tell you. Uh that I was like my security team said said, "Well, it's it's actually gone down from yesterday to today. It went down from 18,000 to 17,000." So I'm like, "Oh, maybe it's getting better, you know." Um but you can see like how crazy some of these people are.

Um you know, look look at the the the two uh sort of people that tried to assassinate President Trump, you know, I mean that was uh and one, you know, they both almost succeeded. Um, so it's it's real. Like it's not like some imaginary thing.

Um, so anyway, so what what we're announcing is is kind of like a a block captain program where um somebody can sign up to knock on doors in their zip code and encourage people to to uh well make people aware that there is a vote um and then aware of how important the vote is. So, you can uh sign up to be a kind of a block captain for your zip code on the America Pack website uh right now. Yeah.

And if you do, it's it's like basically 20 bucks for just taking a photo with somebody. It's pretty straightforward. Just knock on doors in your neighborhood and and and give them either a digital or a paper, you know, picture of uh you know, Justice Bradimal. It can be a an approximation. It doesn't have to be exact. Um, but uh and and and they just have to say thumbs up and hold a picture of of Judge Shimmel and that's it and you get $20.

Sounds it's pretty easy. It's easy money. So, but we're the the whole point of it is just to make people aware of the election um and and say that there is an election. It's on Tuesday and it's super important. Please vote. So, [Applause] But I think without something like this um we're we actually are in in serious danger of losing the election. This is very important to put put in mind.

If you if you look at the betting market odds so if you look at sort of the poly market or kry like the betting markets it varies between 85% and 90% probability of loss for just a shimmel. That's the current situation. So, we got to we got to pull a rabbit out of the hat next level.

It's got we actually got to have a steady stream of rabbits out of the hat like it's an arc of rabbits flying through the air and and landing in a in a booning booth. Interesting picture. Uh Grock could probably make that picture. Um so, uh that's that's basically what's needed is is is we need to generate an anomaly in the matrix. Um, and because I think there's currently uh that there the Dems are 100,000 votes ahead.

But if actually if just if the people that voted for President Trump simply vote on Tuesday, uh we will win. That's actually all it takes. Just vote. Boom. Done. Victory. So, so we basically need to to drag net the state. It's like everybody's going to mobilize everywhere like crazy for the next 48 hours. Um, and I I think this will be important for the future of civilization. It's that significant. So, you don't hear me saying that very often.

It's it's a big deal. Um, so vote for Judge Supercharge Shiml. I call him Supercharge [Laughter] Shiml. So, [Applause] um, let's see. Um, so with that, I think we can um do some do Q&A if you guys would like to do some Q&A. Uh, and I'm happy to answer any questions. It can be, you know, about Doge or whatever you'd like to hear about.

Um because I think um if you ask questions that the public would be interested in hearing then uh you know those those snippets will go all over the place and it will be helpful to the the public um you know at at large and maybe even beyond beyond our country. So, let's see. Uh, yeah, go ahead. We can just start over there. Uh, as AI gets continues to get smarter, won't it uh inevitably uh see through its creators uh propaganda?

Yes, the question is, as AI gets smarter, will it see through its creators propaganda? I I hope so. Um I think you can sort of think of an AI as it is somewhat nurtured by uh its creator. Um so yeah say what what is the operating principle? What what is what is the what is the north star of the AI?

Um, you know, if it's a somewhat corporate AI, it could be like it's just trying to make corporations happy or it could be uh, you know, if it's particularly some of the AIs that that are trained in like the city of San Francisco, it's going to have kind of a San Francisco bias to it.

Um because you can think of like smart people as well as like you know there are big differences in in sort of beliefs um among smart people and so you can expect that there will be big differences in beliefs among AIs as well. Um with Grock our aspiration is a maximally truth-seeking AI um which is like you always want to try to get as close to the truth as possible even if the truth is unpopular. Um and that's that's our goal.

um which I think is a very important goal. Hey, nice shirt. Oh, thank you. First of all, path of exile for life. Um but more importantly, as we see the the whole world has turned to a fear-based mobilization effort, and we've seen that translate into violence and and the right's not immune to it because it can hit anybody's psychology. Sure. How do we beat that with optimism because that's going to be crucial to avoid mass eruption of conflict?

Yeah. I mean, it there does seem to be um you're right that the the the right is not immune from sort of hate and violence. It's not like nothing, but it it does seem weirdly heavily weighted towards the left. Um I mean that like I haven't seen anyone tearing off like a Biden Harris hat.

like we're just like you feel a bit sorry for them like oh maybe they're wrong there you know um but but but you see people tearing off mega hats and someone just you know I saw a video just as just just today where somebody was just on an escalator woman was on escalator wearing a mega hat and someone going the other direction tore the hat off her head and I'm like what that's that's rude you know um so um in fact I sort of find myself in a strange position because I I didn't think of myself as right.

I thought myself as centrist, but then the left went all the other other direction and now everyone's a Nazi, you know, before you know it. And I'm like, uh, wait a second. Uh, do you know what that means? Obviously not.

So um but yeah I mean I think you know I believe in peaceful discourse and that uh you know we make arguments uh verbal arguments and and the people decide which way they want to go but we you know we don't engage in sort of shouting people down or or violence or burning things or shooting things. Um that's what that's how democracy is supposed to work is peaceful discourse. So my question is about US aid.

Um has the Doge team found any evidence that any of the radical left Democrats like Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Chuck Schumer have received money directly from USA ID? And if so, will we be hearing about that evidence anytime soon? Yeah. So the the there is a massive amount of corruption um but but it it is cuitous.

So what happens is there's money that obviously it's your taxpayer money that that is then sent to various government organizations who then send it to to NOS's which which an NGO is a non-governmental organization but obviously if it's a government funded non-governmental organization it's just an organization it's just a government um and effectively there's a giant fraud loophole uh which is that the the government can send money to an NGO that is then no longer governed by the law laws of the United states.

So they'll they'll send the money uh overseas to one NGO. Then it'll go through a bunch of bunch of them and then I'm highly confident that a bunch of that money then comes back to the United States and lands in the pockets of the people you just mentioned. Um but it is a securitous route.

It's not like it it it doesn't go directly, but let's just say that there's uh a lot of strangely wealthy members of Congress um where I'm I just can't I I'm trying to connect the dots of how did they become rich while earning how do they get 20 million if they're earning 200,000 a year? You sounds that's how I Nobody can explain that.

So, so, so something's Yeah, we we're going to try to figure it out and um and and and certainly stop it from happening. Um, [Applause] so yeah, I mean, just in general, this the the whole NGO scam is is just crazy. Um, and uh yeah, it's it's it's blown my mind really. Um, so yeah, most of us here are aware of social media censorship and I know you're keenly aware of it. Thank you for turning around X. Awesome.

A as censorship picks up in financial institutions, what can we do about that? Uh, are you referring to um offering financial services by ex? No. Uh, sorry. being kicked off of financial or beliefs. Yeah. Yeah. Um well, certainly that that won't happen during the the Trump administration. Um I um hopefully that can be enshrined in law. Um which is part of the reason why we need a Republican Congress.

Um so you didn't see any Republicans kicking Democrats out of and debanking Democrats, but there were a lot of Republicans that were debanked, thousands, which is really outrageous.

Um, so so I think it does seem kind of one-sided, you know, this like trying to ruin people's lives and uh financially and and violent protests uh overwhelmingly is coming from the left these days, you know, it's like and whereas uh the right is polite, you know, uh and fair as far as I can tell. So yeah, go ahead. Um, thank you for being here.

Uh, uh, your comment kind of about The Matrix is kind of ironic because my husband and I watched first the the first Matrix and the sequel yesterday. Uh, my question is when so much of social media um nowadays, you know, whether it be X or YouTube or whatever is kind of um, curated to like your a a person's particular beliefs or even where we have protesters that um show up to town halls or or potentially are paid.

How do you does America kind of come together and it used to be where you could have a conversation and have discourse like you discussed, right? Um and still be friends even if you disagreed with kind of some of their statements. Um when you talk about knocking on doors like to different people's house like one kind of fear that I have is like even if you talk to somebody everybody has their own sets of beliefs and their own truths.

So I guess how do you get through that? Yeah. Well I think what we saw there for quite a while was that all of the legacy media and all of the new social media were in lock step together. Um, and they were all paring the same left-wing talking points. Um, and they were suppressing any disscent and any any so-called right-wing or frankly even centrist views.

Um, and with that, that's why I felt it was it was critical to acquire Twitter now X um, in order to enable that dialogue. So it's it's it's certainly a step in the right direction and I think we've seen now once uh X was willing to to break ranks and not censor uh Republicans um then you you saw others also start to move in that direction.

Um you know it looks like for example uh Facebook and Meta you know yeah um is they they have certainly Mark Zuckerberg has stated that they will be doing a sort of community notes um based on the community notes of the X platform um and and and as opposed to having sort of far-left censorship uh bureau the sort of you know the woke Stacey essentially reviewing things. Um, so that's a step in the right direction.

Um, you know, there's there's some maybe some hope for the CNN's the world. It's like with with with with Scott being on there, he's great, you know, he's like I but I hope I'm I mean I'm sort of hopeful that things will that are are moving in in the direction where uh different points of view are espoused on or or you know heard on legacy media and and social media. So I I I guess maybe I'm actually a little bit optimistic about the future.

Um and um you know on the Xplatform you know we we don't prioritize you know one side or the other. We try to be as fair as possible. Um and I will reply to you know prominent Democrats even if they sort of say terrible things about me. Um so you know it's like yeah we should have this discourse.

Um, and so I I kind of think at least on the media front things are going in a good direction, but on the but I but I am kind of perturbed by the the sort of how aggressive these protests are, you know, where it's it's like, you know, there are people at these protests calling for the death of the president and death of me and I don't know, probably death of others, you you know, that that's not that's the kind of thing that's not not cool, you know.

Um, at the risk of saying something outrageous, calling for murder is not cool, you know. So, thanks for coming, Elon. Um, I'm a teacher by trade. I have gone through the four-year bachelor degree to teach the nation's youth going forward. Um, on that I Yeah, I actually I'm kind of curious. Uh, what was that like? Like, uh, yeah. Um, I got an English degree, man.

At the end of the day, unless you want to hire me, that's about, you know, that's um Sure. So during teacher college, they give us a heat map and it says these are the cost per head on each student. Uh the south southeast is generally the worst, but they're also generally the lowest spent um per capita on each student.

Um, beyond just that correlation of the one text I got in a education class, I wonder with your investments in Khan Academy with the advancement of AI educational tools where specifically you can get feedback and these students can get feedback. Yeah, absolutely. Um, where do we see a 100 years from now with all Oh man, 100 years from now? How about 50? I hope it lasts 100 years. That'd be like jackpot.

um you know yeah exactly hopefully hopefully we were like on Mars you know um so that would be really cool um so I I do think AI can be incredibly helpful in teaching because you can you can um essentially set up each kid with like a personalized AI um and that that AI can then answer questions for each kid um and that actually can be very profound in learning um because obviously if if you got a classroom of say 25 30 kids.

It's you you can't like spend it's literally impossible to spend time with every kid um individually uh or at least you can spend a little bit of time but not obviously it's it's a 1 to 21 to30 ratio. So, but but what you can do is is you can set them up with the AI and then you can, you know, if things get stuck or or whatever if if you want to, you can you can essentially guide the orchestra that way.

And I think it could be a very powerful learning tool. Um, you know, I personally enjoyed my English classes in high school actually. Um, you know, they uh sometimes I wondered why am I reading Charles Dickens?

that uh you know there's some merit to reading Dickens and and and many of the I I actually think that we should have a a great cannon of of English literature uh that that that kids do at least you know uh some number of the significant works of in the English language.

[Applause] So I mean this yeah it's it seems like very obvious to me but uh yeah um and and another thing with regard to teaching is that I think teaching is a very important profession um if you look at the expenditures uh there's a very big rise in the number of administrators um but but not a very big rise in the number of teachers and so that's that's really the big factor which is we we should have more actual teachers um you know and and I I I believe in paying teachers well and and having a lot of a lot of teachers but we should say why do we have so many administrators or or non-teers um so administrative expense has gone ballistic but teaching expense is more or less flat doesn't make sense so first I would like to apologize to you on behalf

of America for the idiots you have to deal with for what you're doing for us to improve our country.

Second of all, my question is, what is your opinion on the Federal Reserve and do you have any intentions of doing anything with them and the [Laughter] Fed? Yeah. I don't know. I always wanted to say that, you know, uh but but I mean, I think there's like 20,000 people that work at the Fed seems pretty high.

Um it's like there's a lot of people that work at the Fed on it seems like why do we have so many people at this at at the Fed and what do they do and um you know sometimes I wonder which one would win you know the Federal for for interest rates the the federal the board of the Federal Reserve or a magic eightball and I'm like I think the magic eightball might win you know. So then I'm like well magic eightball is a lot cheaper.

Um, so you know it's like you shake it, it says check back again later. I'm like, [Laughter] okay, same [Laughter] thing. Um, but but I think we we we what really matters is that government spending it um is is not far in excess of government revenue. Um that's a fundamental issue that we have where that we have a de a deficit of $2 trillion and we have interest payments that now exceed uh the entire budget of the military.

Um in fact that that was a big wakeup call for me was when the the amount of money that we pay in national debt interest exceeded the defense department budget. I'm like defense department budget is very big um and interest is higher than that and and and climbing. That's a disaster. you know, so the the very simple straightforward goal of of the Doge team is to get rid of um waste and fraud. It's it's mostly waste.

It's it's or depending on how you I'd say it's probably 80% waste, 20% forward, something like that. Um but it's a trillion dollars, so that's still a lot. Um, and it's it's, you know, it's got to, you know, it's got to be. We got the another soros sleeper agent there. [Laughter] [Applause] USA, USA, USA, USA.

[Applause] So I mean to be to be clear the the very simple thing we're doing and we we post everything publicly on the Doge website which is uh is just to look at every expense and say is is this actually a good use of your taxpayer dollars. Um that's it. Um, it's not it's not super complicated.

And and the and the thing that's that's pretty wild, this is why like I say like, you know, I used to be a Democrat like and so like um and and if you listen to this the the speeches of uh Clinton and Gore in in the 90s when they they were going on about reducing waste and fraud, it literally you wouldn't be able to tell the difference if like who said it, Doge or Clinton Gore? You can't even tell the difference. sounds exactly the same.

It's wild. So, we're we're really just trying to restore common sense to government and say like, let's not waste your money. Um, and let's make sure it's spent well and and that's it. And in in trying to save a trillion dollars of expenditures, what we're saying is of the 7 trillion in in government spending, let's try to see let's see if we can make it 15% 15% more efficient. Um, and I'm confident that we can.

Um, but that's actually not a huge bar, by the way. [Applause] So, and and and when you see the when you see the crazy things that uh the government is spending money on, you can see a list of some of them. Um, you know, like I don't know if we should be spending money on transgender comic books in Peru. that doesn't seem like an ideal thing to spend your money on, you know. Um, why would we do that?

Um, if if somebody in Peru wants to do that of their own accord, that's fine, but it shouldn't be your money that does it. Um, so it's it just and you know, we shouldn't be paying rent on empty buildings.

Um, and uh, you know, if if if people if I do think there is a role for government, but but we just need to make we're just going to we're just going through and saying and doing what I would call like an an excellent and and and necessary um and reasonably trusted review of of organizations and and personnel. Um, so is this is this person doing a good job? Great. Um, is the role necessary? If so, that's good.

Um, and are they reasonably trusted, meaning they're not a psycho? Um, like we're not talking about like political affiliation, just that they're not crazy. Um, so you know, uh, what's wrong with that? I'm like, sounds normal to me. So, that's it.

Um now in in this process one of the things that we've discovered which is I think um on the fraud side which is a really big deal um is that uh the Democrat administration Biden administration has basically t taken every arm of the of the US government and bent it towards creating a financial incentive for illegal immigrants to come to the United states. Um, now this is every part of the government.

So like social security, Medicaid, uh, unemployment insurance, disability, uh, even the IRS. Um, so you can like fill out a fake tax return and say you you need a a tax maybe I shouldn't tell people this, but it'll actually work. I mean, mostly uh, there's some chance you'll get caught, but you can actually fill out a fake tax return. You can you can just get a tax refund even though if you didn't pay taxes.

So, we're trying to stop all these things to say like, okay, let's stop the waste and fraud and and we also need to turn off the massive financial incentive uh for illegals to come to the United States and and stay in the United States.

And this is really the thing that is causing the Democrats to lose their mind, you know, because they're they're actually spending at this point uh tens of billions to attract and retain illegals in the United States. It's really on that scale. It's a gigantic number and the goal uh is is to turn all the swing states blue incl that means Wisconsin. So that's the goal.

Um, so with the asylum program, uh, if they they can be get a green card within a year and then they can get, uh, citizenship as as quickly as four years after getting a green card because the first year of being asylum being asylum counts for the for the 5-year uh, citizenship waiting period. So this is this is a very big deal.

Um, so, uh, a number of friends of mine have actually, uh, joined the government and in order to help with this process. Um, and I'd like to welcome my friend Antonio Gracias to the to the stage. I think so. Does it work? I can give you mine. Does it work? radiation belt. Uh, it'll be okay. Uh, I mean, Buzz Aldrin's still alive and he's he went past the belts. Work. Is this working? Yeah, it's not. Yeah, there you go.

Um, so Antonio, can you tell us what what you uh Antonio is helping out uh with the social security? So, just trying to review social security where you may have heard that we found 20 million dead people uh marked as alive in the social security database. This is too so crazy. And then you'll notice there's a strange trend here. Um where uh how many social security numbers were issued. Uh it it's do you want to Yeah.

So let me um let me tell you what happened here. We we started at the top of the system. You want to talk about a lot of We started at the top of the system mapping the whole system of social security to understand where all the fraud was. And there's a lot of great people there that showed us um in really a lot of waste. And so that came up with a big list of stuff they're working on. You've heard some of that already.

But this is what jumped out at us. Um when we saw these numbers, we're like, what is this? In 21, you see 270,000 uh people goes all the way to 2. 1 million in 24. These are nonitizens that are getting social security numbers. Yeah. This this is a mind-blowing chart. Yeah. Just this this literally blew us away. Like we went there to find fraud and we found this by accident. And this isn't political, by the way. My parents are immigrants.

Uh, yeah, this country's been great to us. My brother and sister are all born in Spain. I'm pro-le immigration. This is not This is not political. This is not political. This is about America and the future of America. And there are a lot of good people in the system that pointed us in this direction. I want to I want to honor them right now that work in the government today who took risks to show us these numbers and tell us what's going on.

So, I want to stop for a minute. I want to tell I want to honor those people today. Very good people. Very good people. I have been from DC to social security offices to the border to track this down. And very good people have helped us along the way. I want to thank them. Yeah. This number what this is is when you come in the country, if you're illegal, uh there's a couple ways to come in.

You can come in through a port of entry and you can tell them you're afraid and you'll get they'll give you an asylum asylum case. You'll get an interview. then you get in. That's one way to do it. Another way to do it is to just go to the border. Literally, this happened. I talked to Border Patrol myself. Elon was there, too. Um I went to Laredo uh and I went to Brownsville. Elon went to Eagle Pass.

Um you walk up to Border Patrol officer and you tell them you want to come in. They have a couple of choices. They could charge you with a misdemeanor or a felony under 1325, or they can make it an administrative offense, like a parking ticket. Basically, they were told to do that.

make an administrative offense under the last administration and then you go walk across the border, they uh do what's called a release from your own recgnizance and they give you an NTA, a notice to appear, which to appear at a judge. The wait times on judges are like average six years. Look at Grock, you'll see it on immigration judges. There's only 700 of them. This is 5. 5 million people. Okay? So, what happens then?

Once you're in the country and you got asylum through one of these pathways and we've mapped the whole thing out, uh you can apply for a work document. You file a 765. It's the work form. You get this form called the 766. That's the authorization. And then Social Security Administration automatically send you in the mail your social security number. No interview, no ID. This is worth like just reiterating it.

It it's not that it's not people sometimes think that under the Biden administration that that he was simply asleep at the switch. He wasn't asleep. They were asleep at the switch.

It it it was a massive large-scale program to import as many illegals as possible ultimately to change the entire voting map of the United States and disenfranchise the the American people and make it a permanent deep blue one party state from which there would be no escape. Look, if I hadn't seen this myself, I'm not sure believed it. I went through it myself and mapped it and Elon is right. This is true.

The defaults in the system from social security to all of the benefit programs have been set to max inclusion, max pay for these people and minimum collection. That's what's happening. We found 1. 3 million of them already on Medicaid as an example. We've gone through on every benefit program we went through, we found groups from this particular group of people, this 5. 5 million people in those benefit programs.

And then what was really really disturbing us was why. We're asking ourselves why. And so we actually just took a sample and looked at voter registration records and we found people here registered to vote in this population. Yes. And who did vote? And and we found some by sampling that actually did vote. And we have referred them to prosecution at the Homeland Security Investigation Service. Yeah. Already. Already.

That has already happened right now. Yeah. And the truly disturbing thing though, I just want you to know this. A truly disturbing thing to me and the darkest thing about this to me, uh, the voter fraud is terrible, but the human tragedy this created is extraordinary. Because what you don't understand, and people don't know, and Americans need to know, that's why I'm here, is that human traffickers made 13 to 15 billion dollars off of this. Okay?

That's the money that's going around the world moving people around the world to our borders because of these incentives. How does it work? What happens? Hey, if you're in Africa and you're in Central America, you got to walk up through Mexico, through America. Who do you pay? You pay the narcos. You pay the traffickers, right? And we found, we were told by ICE, it's between 20,000 and 500 bucks, depends.

They pick you up to walk across all those countries and get all the way up to the border. Where's that money goes? It goes to the cartels. It goes to human traffickers, right? There are 30,000 children that have not appeared on the notice to appear already. ICE knows this. 30,000 children, 270,000 children didn't even get notices to appear.

ICE told us that kids are being trafficked back and forth across the border to complete families to make this easier. This is a human tragedy. It's not just the money, it's the people and the kids. And how many of these people died on the way up here that didn't make it in? What happened to them? We created this system here that created a descent for people to come and be taken advantage of by these traffickers.

And how do you think they get paid? What? You're an African Central America. You got $20,000 or $10,000 or $5,000 to pay these traffickers. No, you don't. What happens? You come in, then you owe them the money. It's your indentured servant. If you don't pay them, what happens? What do they do? They kill your mother. They kill your brother. take care of your family. What happens next? That's what we discovered.

And I have to tell you, it was it's tragic to me. The tragedy, the human tragedy this created is extraordinary. That's the real problem. This is America. We don't do this here in America. Yeah. We don't do this here in America. People come here legally, and that's great. Elon came here legally. My parents came here legally. That's the way to do it. This is this is outrageous. [Applause] Yeah, it's it's it's pretty wild.

I mean, you can see u because there's still actually a lot of people out there, especially in the sort of center third of the country that that somehow think this is made up by the right or it's like some fiction. It's not that it's somehow not true. But it is it is in it is is absolutely true.

Um, and you can see that if if you if you you know look at things like the state of New York, which tried to make it legal for for for illegal immigrants to vote in the state of New York that was only shot down by the New York Supreme Court a few weeks ago. Um, and and California has made it um health care available to all illegals in the state. Um, and they initially claimed that it would only cost three billion. is now 9 billion and climbing.

Um, so it's it's really if if you create a massive financial incentive for people to come to the United States illegally, then that's what they will do. It's it's a very sort of it would be stranger it'd be odd if that didn't happen.

So the the really the thing that is actually has the Democrats losing their mind by far um the real reason for these attacks and and sort of the burning of the cars and everything is that we're going to turn off the payments to illegals [Applause] because Yeah. I mean because that's not the deal. You know this there it's you know it's not it's not it's simply not right.

Um and uh you know if if you look at that thing with the Roosevelt Hotel and like you know the luxury hotels in New York where the Federal Emergency Management Agency funds were being used to to house uh illegals in luxury hotels in New York that the average American can't afford. Um, and they were giving a welcome package and $10,000 debit cards and everything else. Like, it's it's super real.

I mean, it's it's like uh it's it's it's in my I think it's the the the biggest uh voter fraud thing in history by far. Um and and more of a if if left unchecked, it would have succeeded. Um, as Antonio mentioned, the the time frame for going from asylum to citizen is roughly five years. Yeah.

U, and so all of the people that came in on that chart that you saw, uh, if if the if the machine behind the Camala puppet had won, um, then, you know, they change out the puppet, but it's the same machine. um then they would have actually legalized uh all those people and there would be no swing states and they added more. Remember it was doubling every year. Yes, it went from 1 million. It was going ballistic. Going ballistic.

And it it is it is just these people are just ending the the the uh benefit programs now by the way. We're seeing the ramp happen too. And these are just the ones that are in the system. This doesn't count the other, you know, 7 and a half 8 million that ICE thinks are out there. We don't know if they have numbers. The number is totally uncontrolled. The voter ID requirement in the state is super important because of this. Yes.

Because the social security number, it's not supposed to be a federal ID number, but it basically is. That's how you access all the benefits. This is why we need voter ID because this thing is not secure. You could walk into a social security office today as an adult in America and get a social a social security number uh enumerated with simply a um answering six or seven simple questions and showing some some forms of ID that are not federal ID.

Well, you can just actually make it up. You basically you can you can show basically like uh like a fake utility bill or you know a show a medical bill and a school ID. Yeah. Medical bill and school ID and you can get a social security number. Yes. Um and then from there you get on the voter roles and then um basically Dem operatives will form the vote. Yes.

Um, so, uh, you know, the problem with this obviously is that if you turn the swing states, uh, blue, then there are no swing states, and then we're in a permanent one one party system. And as soon as they win that, they'll have the House, the Senate, the Presidency, they'll pack the Supreme Court. Then they'll they'll double down on on the illegals just like California. So like we've we've already seen this happen in California.

California is supermajority dem. So, uh, but at least California is held back by the fact that people can move out of state. Um, once you can no longer leave America, they will be there'll be far worse than California. So, the gravity of the situation is severe. Help us clean up Wisconsin. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. [Applause] So, I mean, it's it's really simple stuff.

Uh, just, you know, Having uh you know photo ID to vote is like you can't like buy something at the liquor store but uh voting is a lot is more important uh than you know buying a beer. So you're going to need real ID an airplane. Yeah. You can't fly anywhere. Yeah. And and and like the same people who said who are saying that there should be no voter ID at at voting stations uh demanded vaci vaccine ID from everyone. Yeah.

I'm like that's weird, you know. So, so it's it's it's really about just restoring integrity to the voting system. Um, which really should not be a right or left cause, but a cause for all. Um, is do do we not all want integrity in the voting system? Of course we do. Yes. Of course. Yes. So, [Applause] so, so, well, you're welcome to hang out and see maybe there's some questions people. Let's see. We'll we'll go. Hi, Elon.

Um, I also am a teacher. I was a teacher in Colorado for eight years, high school Spanish. Um, but I moved I moved here last year and got to vote in Wisconsin where my vote actually mattered and I'm so glad that was amazing that we got Trump elected. Yeah. Um, and I was listening to I believe it was Patrick Bet David.

He called this perfectly where he said when Elon or when when Trump gets elected, he's going to go from enemy number one to Elon's going to be number number one. And for the reason, I mean, he only has a couple years left. And we've all seen the the left go after you and make you number one enemy. And just walking in here, we heard Nazis suck. There's all this horrible thing.

And just on a on a serious note, I just want to let you know, my wife and I pray for you at night. Thank you. For your safety, guys. Thank you. I I I got I got to watch my hand gestures these days, you know, but uh I think this one's safe, you know. Um, you know, it's like can't wave to the crowd. You never know what'll happen. And I've been a fan of yours for like a decade.

And I've been a walking Tesla ad to anybody who talks to me, even though I never had a Tesla until I came to Wisconsin, too. And it's 10 years old, but it's the best Model S I've ever had. Thank you. It's incredible. Thank you. But I I just wanted to um take to ask you if it would be okay. I brought my dad with me. Um he's a pastor and I just thought if it's okay with you, I would love for him to say a prayer for you as well for your protection.

Thank you. Uh Elon, well, thank you so much for everything you've done for our country. We we do love you very much. Thank you. And uh and as a pastor, but just as a person, right? And even if I wasn't a Christian, and I know not everyone here is a Christian, but I think there's quite a few of you here and uh who who are either way, we we love all all people. It's that's not the issue. The issue is is fairness.

what you're talking about the issue being uh uh just and the justice being a weapon instead of uh lawfare instead of actually just and and all this corruption you're talking about. And that's a bad spirit if you want to say it that way, putting it nicely. It's it's something evil that has come against our country, our morals, our families, etc. and then you and the president and others getting attacked with this outrage and this hate.

So if you would allow me to pray. Thank you. You would all who want to please join me bow our heads and pray. Gracious heavenly father, we are thankful for our country. We are thankful that God does bless America and that God is the source of all goodness, love, and provision. And that you, Lord God, have provided a great nation with a great history. And although we've gone through many rough times, you're still very present and active with us.

Thank you for protecting President Trump from that fatal attack. And we ask that you envelop and protect all of those who are fighting for justice, for freedom, for order, for dignity, and to re reward people according to merit.

and especially put your hedge of protection around Elon Musk, around his children, around his whole entire family and all of his team members that all would do good and just by our country and freedom truly and justice would reign once again. We ask this in the name of the blessed savior Jesus Christ who we remember during this time of year who suffered and died for our sins. May you wash away all that is wrong with our country and start with us.

We ask this in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. [Applause] to you. You can hang out if you want. Well, that was that was beautiful. That was beautiful. It's uh I think we're going to need divine protection, frankly. Yeah. Hey, Elon, I'd like to start off by thanking you for all that you've done for our country and the world as a greater whole. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart as well.

Um I have a question for you. Um, as you go about your decision making at Doge, how are you able to keep your moral northstar and not set precedents when it comes to overstepping democratic processes simply because the end justifies the means and have outcomes similar to the last election with Democratic presidential candidate being appointed without due process that just further polarizes the country. True. Also on a side note, one more thing.

Do you see a place in the long term for decentralized technology in society and government? Yeah, I mean to answer the second question first, um I think generally if it's good to have decentralized systems, uh because the more centralized something is um the more the more power that is in any one single entity, the more corruption you're likely to have. So decentralization I think is good to minimize corruption.

Um then with respect to Doge u I mean as I said it's it's we're trying to be as literal as possible. It just it's department of government efficiency and it's just literally going through and saying okay this money was spent is it money that most Americans would agree is sensible uh or is it not? Um and uh you know if it doesn't seem sensible then we you know um say well we shouldn't spend that money anymore.

We should and we should we should stop it. So and then we post the the we try to be as transparent as possible. So all the Doge actions are posted on the doge. gov website and on the Doge handle on X. So people disagree with something they we can say well which which part do you disagree with?

Um and you when when I get these sort of attacks of like oh it's unconstitutional I mean like well which expenditure is unconstitutional that we've stopped um because and then they they don't know actually because they don't they haven't actually looked at anything.

So um now obviously a lot of this can be reversed with a new administration um but at least for some period of time we're going to make sure that your taxpayer money is spent at least 15% better. It's it's it's it's not like a you know I think it's a reasonable goal. It's a rational goal. It's a sensible goal.

Um and um and the net result I should say if if if we have the combination of a a trillion dollar increase in the an economic output and a trillion dollar decrease in the in the budget deficit, then the outcome should be that there is no inflation or very little inflation uh from one year to the next. So at the end of next year, you the prices will be at the grocery store will be very similar to what they are right now.

Um which means that you know standard of living will will will actually probably be higher, a little bit higher. Um you know you whereas we've had rampant inflation to date which and inflation is really just a a a pernicious tax that has been used by governments throughout history. Um and it's it's very tempting for governments to use inflation as a as a tax because it's indirect.

Um people see the prices rising at the grocery store or at you know for goods and services or for houses and they they tend to like blame the store but it's it's not the store it's the government. Um the government has reduced the value of money and as a result prices rise.

Um so by you know changing by by reducing waste and fraud um will essentially make the economy more efficient uh and will shift uh people resources from the government to the private sector. Um and that will result in an increase in the output of goods and services and and so the the average standard of living will therefore rise. So like they're trying to make economics sound very complicated, but it's it's really not that complicated.

Um standard the standard of living increases when the the when the output of goods average output of goods and services increases per person. There's basically more stuff. Therefore, you have more stuff to divide across the people. Um that's it.

And you can you can run this sort of thought experiment and say like if there was a hundred people on an island and you'd say well how many people do you want farming, fishing, making stuff um you know versus you know doing regulations. You would say like you wouldn't want like 20 people doing regulations, you know, you'd be like that's too many. Um well then maybe you'd want one or two. I don't know. Maybe none. Ideally zero.

I I mean I'm I'm all for small government by the way. I'm not I think the really Yeah. Um you know when the United States was when the United States was formed there were only um you know you had the secretary of state the secretary of war which I think is a more accurate name than defense um uh and you know but it was secretary of war war for a long time. Um, and you had Secretary of the Treasury and you had the attorney general. That was it.

And, um, if it were entirely up to me, I'd be like, let's let's make it like that again. Yeah. Howdy, gentlemen. Uh, got a quick question regarding government and transparency. Do you think Dogecoin may ever be used or the Dogecoin blockchain to be used for maximum transparency? Well, the names are similar, but they're doing two very different things.

Um, so in fact, I was going to call it like the government efficiency commission, but that's a super boring name. Um, and then the internet said, "No, it needs to be called the Department of Government Efficiency." I was like, "Well, internet, that that's the internet is right." Um so so we changed the name from government efficiency commission to department of government efficiency.

Um but there are no plans for the government to use Dogecoin or or anything as far as I know. Um so that that they happen to be similar names but but really it's just we're just literally trying to make the government 15% more efficient. It's kind of like like most of the work that's that's being done is it's kind of like homework. It's not like uh it's it's just it's just work, you know? It it frankly it's like washing the dishes.

It's it's not like you know it's it's a lot of it's not super fun work. It's just you know going through and looking at every expense and saying why you know why does this department have like 10 times more software licenses than people? That doesn't make sense. Um you know why why is this why is the government spending $10 million a year on Politico subscriptions?

that doesn't make sense, you know, like there's just one thing after another like that. It's like things that are just uh kind of kind of boring. It's it's like a ton of boring stuff. Like you do hear about like the the the sort of weird stuff that makes the headlines, but most of it most of the costs that are being cut are just very basic boring things.

It it's it's a it's it's like homework at scale is what I'd call you the department of government efficiency. Um can I can I add some I think this question about transparency. I'm really selling it here. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. I um I I I would say the principles that Elana set out for Doge are they begin with truth. Truth. Find the truth. Number one, find the truth. Why?

Because the government government's gotten so big that actually the people don't even know what's there. They don't know the source of truth. So these licenses, it's not like people bought these licenses because they're bad people and they wanted to pay Microsoft. They just kept buying licenses because Microsoft kept selling from them. I mean, it's just it's that strange. And we don't want to pick on Microsoft.

It's like every every software company, by the way, any software company pick company X. They they didn't they bought these licenses because they just uh thought they should buy more licenses. More people coming in and there's no one there. People aren't coming back to the office, right? They It's just finding truth. The number one principle is truth. And then transparency is number two, I think, on the list, right?

So find the truth, make it public, make it transparent. And number three is, man, do it fast. Make it efficient and be urgent. Yeah, those those are the principles that Elon's put into Doge. Yeah, it's it's worth pointing out like like it's it's actually difficult to you have to recalibrate uh how dumb things can be because it's the government, you know, frankly, it's like dumber than you think it could possibly be.

Um so you know like for example there were we found there were a whole bunch of what I call uh ghost payments going out um where the the government contracting officer had retired or or changed jobs or were dead or or I don't know they were not around anymore and they forgot to turn off the payment stream to some company and it's it's like leaving the the money faucet on and you you know leave the house you know and it's just the money faucet keeps going and it's a pretty rare organization that will complain about receiving money.

Um so organizations so then you're like is that waste of fraud? I mean the government didn't send them the money but they didn't deserve it. Um so then well okay we but we should turn off the money spigot if they if the contract is over you know type of thing.

Um so one of the things that um we we made a recommendation to uh the treasury uh that uh that the payment classification codes uh and and the explanation for the payment be mandatory fields. Um so so that just and have a name attached. So we could just ask the person who approved the payment is this payment a good a good payment? Does this make sense?

this is the kind of thing that is that is normal in you know for individuals and and for companies. Um but uh that was not the case. Uh so the reason why the the the government could not pass an audit was because the information did not exist that it that would be required to pass an audit like it was literally impossible um because you just had all these blank checks going out with no explanation and no payment code.

So how you supposed to do an audit? It's literally impossible. So that's what I mean by like it's very basic stuff like we just want the congressional appropriation payment code to be mandatory and a very short explanation. We're not even going to judge what the explanation is, but that there'll be any explanation at all and a name attached is was a like revolutionary.

Um and and my guess is this will probably save a hundred billion dollars a year like a lot, you know. So maybe I could tell a little story from Social Security Administration that people might like to hear too which is um at at Social Security Administration it they have passed their audit actually they've got I don't know about 100 material deficiencies but they passed their audit.

Uh when we looked at the balance sheet um we found that $800 million had fallen off the balance sheet last year. $800 million. What do you mean it fell off the balance sheet? It's exactly the question I asked Elon. Thank you. Where did it fall to? Exactly. Where did it fall to? So I I I asked the auditors to come in. It's like a comedy sketch, you know, comedy routine here. Where did it go? Exactly. But wait, where did it go? Exactly.

So here's what happened. I I I brought I asked the auditors to come in. I'm I won't give the name of the auditors. Come on in. And I asked the audit partner myself. Where did it go? What is fell off the balance sheet? Is that a gap term or non-GAAP term? I've never heard that. What does it mean?

Well, the payment plans because um under the last administration uh you could pay if you owed if you got overpaid on social security like if you If you were on um if you were getting SSI or a disability and they paid you too much money, you got a job and didn't tell them they paid you too much money, they dropped that payment plan to $10 a month max. So the payment plans went out past the system date.

So if I remember correctly, it was 2047 payment plans out past system date. When it went past the system date, literally it fell off the system. Uh okay, it disappeared and the uh officers were supposed to people the technicians were supposed to put notes in the um in the system that this was going to be collected. The notes were so bad the auditors concluded this could not be collected and we literally lost $800 million gone.

And I said to the auditor, "How could that possibly be?" And she said, "Well, you know, it's not really material. It's a $ 1. 5 trillion program." I said, "Well, it's material if it's your money. Is it in the computer? It's not in the computer. It fell off the computer. It's in the computer. The computer that's in the computer. Disappeared. $800 million just disappeared." I mean, it's crazy.

So, there's like it's one like nutty thing after another like that. Um, yeah. It's uh yeah, I mean it's crazy. Anyway, we're just we're just trying to basically fix the computers so that we know what the heck's going on. Um yeah, it's it's like please and and and you know, like I said, being fully trans we bring fully transparent with the American people so you know exactly what's going on.

Um and uh just just making sure that uh you know, yeah, anyway, money is not wasteful or fraudulent. Um, you know, one interesting statistic was that 40% of the of the calls into social security were fraudulent, like meaning that that that it was someone trying to get uh a a social security payment that was going to a senior to to go to a instead to go to a fraud ring. So, that was almost half of the phone calls were fraudulent.

Probably the other half were people asking what happened to my social security. This is true actually. Like where did my what? This is bananas. Yeah. And I mean we found this actually the people there at S Street knew this was going on.

Um and they had been complaining about it for a long time and no one fixed it because and these were these were uh mostly criminal rings outside the country um in other other places in the world that are are jamming up the phone systems calling in using just these simple security questions because you can actually this was how crazy it was.

You could change your direct deposit information at social security by simply answering six questions on the phone like your mother's maiden name, your date of birth, etc. Like stuff you can find on the internet, easily found on the dark web. That's why it was so easy. It was a huge, huge exploitation, super open door. I mean, the bank vault was open and the criminals ran right in and took the money and they took it away from our seniors. Right.

So what happened is if like my dad's 84, he'd go get it thought checked in the bank account wasn't there. Then he's got to go whole through a whole process to get it the money back in the government which takes a long time. It's the government, right? So we we put in a very simple 2FA system. All this nonsense you've seen in the media about we turned off the phone lines but not true.

All all we did all they did actually we we recommended to social security that they put in uh a very simple 2FA system and they will two two factor authentication two factoration. They same kind of thing to the banks like pretty simple. you have a bank account, you do this. And you know what? They did it. They said, "Yeah, you're right. We should do that." They went and did it. Good for them. They did it. No one had the will to do it.

They did it. And they're going to keep increasing security. They've got we've gave them we've given them a lot more recommendations and they're on the road to increase security to stop all this nonsense so our our seniors and our our people that are disabled don't get stolen from. Yeah, this is really worth emphasizing. Um because like the you know the radical left are saying that like somehow we're stealing social security.

Like first of all like you know I I don't need the money. Okay. Um in in fact uh it's costing me a lot to be in this job. Uh you know you had like Tim Walls uh dancing on stage showing a a chart of Tesla stock. Uh which is really uh awful thing for him to do. um you know because what they're trying to do is put massive pressure on on um me and and Tesla I guess to to you know I don't know stop stop doing this.

Um but uh you know it's you know my my Tesla stock and the stock of everyone who holds Tesla's gone went roughly in half. I mean it's a big deal. So not not only is am I not getting any any I'm not getting paid definitely not stealing money and would never get away with it. Um, but the value of my Tesla stock is in half. So, this is a very expensive job is what I'm saying. Um, and but but I think it's it's it's [Applause] welcome. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. [Applause] Thank you very much guys. Um so but long term I think Tesla stock's going to do fine. Uh so uh you know maybe it's a buying opportunity. Um so um but but the the actual thing we're doing is is making sure that um people do get their social security and that it doesn't get stolen. Um so 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Hi Elon. I got a question for you about Dodge. Great shirt.

Um, everybody in this room has got a bunch of money sitting in a bunch of little boxes in a bunch of different states and it turned into crickets when you brought it up online that you were going to go check our gold and I'm worried about the Democrats and Joe Biden's last administration with the money not being there. Did you get blocked or are you still able to go check that? Sir, I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're referring to.

Fort Knox. Oh, Fort Knox. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, well, that's up to the president, of course. Uh, but I think it would be I I think it would be awesome to live stream Fort Knox, you know. I mean, that would be really fun. And and after all, it it it is actually the gold of the American people. So, the American people should, it seems to me, have a right to see their gold. You know, hopefully it looks really cool.

um you know open the doors like is there like is that really gold? Let's check um you know so maybe it'll be really really interesting. Uh I'm I'm all for it. The president said he's he's interested in doing it. So hopefully that happens. So all right, good evening Mr. Musk. How are you? Good. How's it going? Good. Good. My name is Veto Gabriel. Um I'm 18 years old. This is my first election that I'll be voting in. So, great. Very exciting.

Oh, actually, uh that that that reminds me. So, it it is actually possible uh to both register to vote on Tuesday. Um if someone has not registered to vote, they can register to vote in Wisconsin and they can vote same day. So, even if somebody's not a registered voter, you can do it everything on on Tuesday. Uh so, bit of backstory.

Uh when I was younger, eight years old to be exact, my father put me to work in my family's restaurant and um it led me to want to start my own business and to be successful just like you. And in my opinion, you're one of the most successful businessmen to ever live. And so what advice would you give to young entrepreneurs who want to start their own uh businesses and give back to this great country? Well, sure.

Um well it is it is very very hard to start a business and have it succeed. Um you know it's it is true that most businesses that start do not succeed. Um, so I mean I I guess I'd really just say, you know, if if there's a product or service that you think uh is really needed, um, then you you go out and you you you make that product or you produce that service, offer that service. Um, and uh, and try to be as useful as possible really.

Um, you know, there's it's it's like whether you know it's it's a great restaurant or store or a technology company or whatever the case may be. Um, it's really just like are you doing things that are useful to your fellow human beings. Um, and you know, if if you are, then I think the company will be successful. Um, so that's that's that's really what it comes down to is is just being being useful. Like people ask me like what's the top advice?

I'm like try to be useful. It's actually very difficult uh to be useful. Um you know um but you know I have a lot of admiration for anyone who just does an honest day's work um you know making products or or producing services for their fellow human beings. Um that's what a company is you know that's that's it. So um but but it it is hard.

I mean I mean to totally frankly like I I generally say if if somebody needs encouragement uh to start a company I would recommend not and started not starting a company. Um it's it's it's uh it's very difficult like you know if you look at say the automotive industry the only two um American car companies that have not gone bankrupt uh are Tesla and Ford. So it's a it's a it's a big cemetery is what I'm saying.

So that's a tough one you know very very tough industry. Um and there were really no like commercial rocket companies that were successful before SpaceX. um it's it's generally very difficult to make the value of the output exceed the cost of the input. And that's that's really what defines a successful business. Um and and and profit is really the difference between the value of the output and the cost of the input.

Um that that's what profit is. Um so but it's it's like shockingly hard to make the output more valuable than the input. That's what I found. Um, yeah. So, all right. Hi, Elon. Thank you so much for being here. Um, would you agree with me that the economic illiteracy in this country is staggering? That people don't understand how close we are. I would say that America to going over the fiscal cliff. Yeah. Right. Um, yes.

Most people actually I think most people well I think a lot of people don't know what a national debt is. Um like how did this national debt come about and and how come there's all this money that somehow we owed but we didn't sign up to be to owing this money. Um but there's you know over $30 trillion of of national debt and that that doesn't count uh future obligations.

Uh so and and that that's just doesn't count state and state and local debt. So it's it's a lot of basically it's a lot of money that the government has signed everyone in America up for. Um and um yeah so so there's if we if we don't do something about it then eventually there won't be any any money for anything. We'll just be paying interest. Um you know a company so I should say a country is much like a person. It's just it's just bigger.

A a country is a collection of people. Um but just like a person can go bankrupt, a c a c a country collectively can also go de facto bankrupt. Um essentially by diluting the currency to where it's worthless. Um and that's that's where we're headed unless uh we uh are you know take immediate and dramatic action with respect to government spending. Um that's we're we're in deep trouble basically. You've seen this in places like Venezuela.

Yeah, exactly. Um, so see in a lot of countries where where it's um think things have gone to hell in a hand basket and uh it's like we just need to not do that, you know. Um, so if you know if the ship of America sinks, we all sink with it. You know, this is something that I try to tell people in in the sort of commercial sector that like you're you're not going to your company's not going to make it if the ship of America sinks.

So, we all got to like, you know, work together here to make sure it does not. Yeah. [Applause] Antonio, feel free to add liver as you wish, but I This is the only place left to go. That's great. Right. Exactly. Like, I don't think we can run off to some other country and be okay. It's America, you know. I I will die in America. I'm not going anywhere. I I will, too. Yeah. I mean, I might go to Mars, but that'll be part of [Laughter] America.

Yeah. [Applause] Hi, Elon. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to be here today with us um in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Yeah. Um, I just want to say that DOA's findings demonstrate to the American people that the government clearly does not care about our hard-earned tax dollars. I have I'm only 26.

Um, but I can imagine it's frustrating for people who have worked their entire lives to see their tax dollars going to fraud, waste, and abuse. And you alone have uh contributed so much money to our government. Yes. Via taxes. So, thank you. You're welcome. But I'm sorry that your money is not being spent very well.

Um I you've clearly shown your leadership and team is capable of transforming our government into something better than what we see today. Um, I just want to say um um I'm sure I'm not the only one who's wondering, but we know that Doge has found quite a bit of money and we would like to see some of that returned to the American people. Do you have any information on when Doge checks would be written or sent out? Sure.

Well, I I guess we we need to be successful at at scale. We've made a lot of progress um but there's still a tremendous amount of work to do. Um effectively by as government spending is made more efficient and spending is reduced the the taxpayer inflation is reduced um so um one way or another you you will effectively be better off uh if resources in the United States are not wasted.

Um so um and It's it's it's it's a you know it's somewhat up to the Congress and maybe the president to uh you know as to whether specific checks are cut but but whether a check is cut or not if you if you reduce um uh wasteful spending uh the the economy is going to be better off. There will be people will do more useful jobs than before. The total output of goods and services will increase and then the average standard of living will increase.

So that that's uh yeah um I I think the most important lesson in economics is simply uh common sense that the the more people in a country that are engaged in producing useful products and services the better off that country will be. um like you could you could run the sort of thought experiment to say in the limit if we moved everyone in the car industry into the DMV there would be no cars but there would be a lot of regulators.

So then you say well okay well then how many people should be in the government versus not government. Um and generally I think you want to have you want to minimize the number of people in government. There still you know be a lot of people in government but you want to keep that to a minimum and move people from low to negative productivity roles to high productivity roles in the private sector. Yeah. Hey Elon.

So the first time I heard about population collapse I think was from you and Joe Rogan. I grew up in the generation where it was very overpopulation, global warming, a lot of people don't want to have kids. My wife and I just had our first, she's a year. Hi, Congratulations. Hi, John. Thank you. Amazing. Um, and I'm finding out very quickly a lot of these things I was told about having kids, losing personal freedom, it's well worth it.

I mean, I I would recommend to everybody, as I'm sure you would, and we Absolutely. I I mean, I' I've been banging the baby drum for ages. Yes. Um, so my question to you is, what's the most surprising and fulfilling thing you've learned from your kids? Especially, we've seen you around X all the time with Trump. So, what's your most fulfilling thing you've learned from having kids? Uh, yeah, X is X is in the back there.

He, you know, so hopefully he's watching this hopefully. Um, yeah, I I think, you know, I I think nothing makes you happier than kids really is is what is the truth of it. So, um, you know, kids are my greatest source of happiness. Um, and, uh, I really encourage, as as Antonio knows, I've encouraged all my friends and everyone to have kids. Uh, it it is it is concerning, you know, that the United States has been below uh, replacement rate.

The birth rate in the United States has been below replacement rate uh since uh roughly when I was born around 197071 thereabouts. Um and I think last year was the lowest birth rate on record. It was very it was very low. Um and then we we're seeing this trend in uh almost every country on earth. This is this is worrying because it's like well um you know if something doesn't happen you know humanity is going to disappear.

Um, so it's I think very important to have kids. Um, like it's it it you know it's it'll kids will make you very happy and and there's but there's also like we got to keep humanity going here, you know. Uh, no no humans no humanity. It's like Elon practice what he preaches too by the way. He's having lots of kids. That's right. You practice what you preach and Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And he tells all his friends to do it too.

I can tell you that for sure. For sure. Yeah. So, all right. Hi, thanks for coming. Uh, my name is Adam. I'm a postal worker. I'm wondering if you could give some insight into some of the reforms or changes that Doge might be looking at for the postal service. Well, actually, may perhaps I could ask you what what should do Doge be doing with respect to the postal service? I I'll write you a letter. Okay. Okay.

Um I I I sus I suspect you have seen that things are not entirely perfect in the postal service. Um yes. Um so I mean obviously there it's it's you know delivering um mail and packages is very important. Uh you know there's reason for why the postal service was created. Um but uh and and I haven't really had a chance to look at the postal service yet but uh I have I have a little detail on the analysis if you want. Do you do a little bit? Okay.

Sure. Yeah. I mean I wouldn't say that I want to be very general here but um there is this thing about you could tell us like uh there's this thing about large volume users postal service versus small small volume users right so like some company please I've heard of that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you probably see it, right?

Like you see there are some companies in the world that use Post Service a lot and pay the same rate as everybody in this room that uses it a little bit. Does that seem fair to you? You see it on the front line. I can't really say. Well, he can't say because he works there. You know, work there. Okay. Doesn't seem fair to me. I don't work there.

Um, so I mean there there are qu there's a bunch of questions about this people are asking that I think are interesting analysis and when you look at the source of truth and the data and you uh make that transparent, I think it's going to be obvious what the right answers are. Yeah. It seems like some companies are not being charged the right amount for package delivery. Um, and there's probably more administrative overhead than there should be.

Um, would be some safe guesses, I suspect. Those are good guesses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good guesses. All right. Elon, how are you? Yo, good. How's it going? It's Adam, your number one reply guy on X. Hey, it's Scott Presser. It's good to finally meet in person. Cool. So, I'm glad you like a lot of my stuff. Yeah. Constantly replying to my stuff, liking my stuff, and I'd love to create material because I'm a former Democrat myself, just like you.

Yeah. And I want to help bring over moderate voters from the Democrat party who are disenfranchised. Yeah. And I'd love to be able to create more content to help you out, to help us win more elections, to win the midterms 2028 and on. Um, would I be able to get a follow from your main because you followed me from your old cyber gamer? Oh, I did. Okay. Um, yeah. Uh, at this point I I I Yeah, sure. I'll I'll do that. Sure.

Um, I mean it's it's right now like I used to only follow maybe um you know a few hundred accounts which and it was possible to read a lot most of what they posted but now I think I follow like 1100 accounts which makes it impossible. So so like it's just like I can only see a few things that people post at random essentially. Um so um yeah but I'm I'm trying to digest as much information as my human brain can manage.

Uh so um but yeah, thank you for for your engagement. Um and uh just you know in general like try to um report on what's really happening is is is great. Thank you. Thank you. Um Mr. must thank you so much for being here and bringing attention to what's going on with our Supreme Court here.

It's very important and I think it would have gotten no attention, not even half of what it's getting now um if you hadn't stepped in for good or bad negative press and good press. We think no exactly the totally. I mean obviously for a any kind of special election um is going to get a fraction small fraction of the the attention of a say a presidential election.

Um and uh and and then it you know normally a an election for a judge would not be that big of a deal. Um it just so happens that this in this case it could decide the control of the US House of Representatives. Um which is a yeah a huge deal. Yeah. Yeah. and my personal experience with Judge Crawford. Um I am a family uh that she moved a pedophile right next to our home. What? Really? Yeah.

It is a true story in the ads that you're hearing from Mr. Shiml. I am Wow. one of the homeowners that had to live next to him for many years unaware. Um so the letter that I wrote to her I'm sure played into what we're experiencing now in family court. um family um we're veterans 20 years. It just was not good for him. It was not good for me. And um we're trying to work through our family court situation.

But what we're realizing is the two strategies that they use are indoctrination or intimidation. And if you step up and say we're practicing Catholic family, the result is her band of Mary rogue judges um and the court affiliates and the commissioners will um flood the family court have flooded the family court system. Yeah.

So, I guess my question would be um regardless of what happens with this very important vote, let's not forget what's happening in the family court system in Dayne County, Wisconsin that's being flooded with these rogue judges and affiliates and commissioners who then if you don't subscribe to what they're saying, they will just wipe out your ability to raise your family or proceed with your family in a way that you feel um your culture dictates dictates your religion dictates your your financial background dictates.

Um it has gone completely bananas and um I'm wondering what you can do to keep the light shine on our court system in Dayne County. It does have lasting effect on families and it will breed out our ability to raise our families in the spirit which we feel is most healthy for our our young our children um and and the sanctity of our family. Absolutely.

Um I think that's fundamental to uh life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which is the foundation of America, that you know that that you you should have control over your family, not the state. The state should not have control of your family. It's insane that people would think that. [Applause] So, uh, we've had friends have to escape California because of this. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's literally had to leave because the state tried to dictate their kids because they're imposing the state's values on the kids and they literally had to leave overnight. More than one friend. We've had the story. Really? Really? Um, yeah. I know.

There's a a thing change the law in California where um if the teachers determine that uh it's in the kid's interest like like if you don't respect like you know I don't know 10-year-old's pronouns or something the the like the state can take your kid in California. So it's it's insane. Um you know it's it's it's state state forced indoctrination.

Um, and if you if you don't match their uh you know, whatever the the state wants, then they can take your kid in California. It's a big deal. Yeah. Exactly. It's a So, it should just be, you know, families should have control over their own circumstances and it should not be the government that uh decides what how your children should be raised. [Applause] Hey Elen, my name is Josh. There's a lot of questions.

I see there is we're going to answer everything at this point. So I'm Please go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. Thank you for taking the questions. Although a lot of people I agree. So I just I was wondering I seen I noticed that there was another a second Mechzilla being built at the Star Base. Uh are we going to be go for launch for the Aremis mission coming up? I that's a very very sort of space question.

Um so there's there there are um there yeah there are two towers in South Texas and and then two and and we plan to build two towers uh at the Cape in Florida. Uh and then probably some some more elsewhere in the future. But there'll be there'll be twin twin towers at the Cape and twin towers in South Texas Starbase. So all right. Hey Elon, good to meet you. Thank you for everything you're doing for the country and the world. Thank you.

I I have two questions. They asked me to keep it short. Sure. Um well, one, when do you when do you envision uh solving blindness and bringing it that to the masses where it'll be for everyone? And the other is is robo taxi on schedule? Yeah. Uh well there's certainly a wide range of questions tonight. The Yes.

So with for for Neurolink, we we've actually had um Neurolink has had in monkeys a working um uh you know device we call blind sight um where um it's been working well and monkeys are healthy for for a few years now and we're hoping um later this year to do our first uh device implant for human enabling someone who is completely blind to see. Um, but it it's going to be low res at first, like Atari graphics, you know.

So, I want to set expectations appropriately. Uh, so it'll start off with like like very low res, but then over time, I think eventually uh the implant would enable vision that is like superhuman. Um, so that'll be that'd be pretty cool. Um, and then yeah, I think they're currently on track to do um unsupervised full self-driving uh in Austin in June. So I I think we probably will we'll we'll take maybe four more questions.

So just two from that side and two from that side and then we'll call it a night. So go ahead. Oh, thank you so much. First of all, you are beyond absolutely legendary and an absolute true hero. So thank you so much for everything you're doing, achieving, accomplishing. You've done so many impossibles. It is astonishing. Thank you.

But my name is Brian Wright and I've been filming from last year all the way into this year a docue series on finding peace. And during this election year, uh the episode was how many lines do we actually need to cross in order to be able to find peace? And I wanted to ask you where do you feel like we are in this this divide? Are we so far divided as to where there's no coming back to the middle or where do you see us being?

Yeah, we we should restore the Smith Act so that we the government cannot spy or issue propaganda to the people. Um, so um yeah um I don't know. I mean, I I I kind of thought that we're headed in a good direction uh for a while there and then and then the last, you know, month or so, there've been these like like crazy violent things happening against Tesla and and protesting me and whatnot.

And I'm like, this is just nuts, you know, and and and uh you know, a lot of people sort of parading signs around saying that, you know, that President Trump and uh Ilamas should die type of thing. And I'm like, this is really nuts, you know.

Um, but I think the the real issue is like who like who's organizing and funding that like the the same people that organized and funded the, you know, the infiltrators, uh, you know, who who the hecklers earlier tonight. So, it's it's it's whoever they are, you know. Um, and I guess we know some of their names, but it's really Yeah. Yeah. Sus and a bunch of others.

Um, um, I'm not sure really what I sometimes I wonder what is their goal like what what's what's their aim you know I guess is it communism I guess is a part of it or just I don't know um sometimes I wonder like have they thought through what they're if let's say they got their goal what then what you know um so I I don't know I'm hopeful that things calm down that there's um you know we gauge that that people engage in like dialogue but not not violence.

Um and that you know if uh for those who who do push violence um and destruction of property and intimidation obviously that they they need to face uh legal consequences for that. Um so um and and and the the president has has said that you know that that needs to happen. Obviously if people are pushing violence um and destruction of property that that is against the law and and they they need to face the con consequences of that. So thank you.

Yeah. Thank you Elon. Um I constantly hear that the Doge efforts um are going to do things like take away social security payments and reduce other government payments like that. You've touched on it tonight, but yeah. Can you state you you've discussed this at length over the last few months. Can you t talk again about how the Doge efforts are actually going to affect things like the payments and other programs like that?

Yeah, I I I guess it would be helpful because so so I can just state it as crisply and clearly as possible. Uh that Doge will will absolutely ensure that people get their Social Security, make sure they get their Social Security, make sure they get their Medicaid, um and will not be cutting any legitimate payments whatsoever. Crystal clear. I will just add to this.

I I've been there uh working there and I spent about the first three or four weeks of my time in Woodlands actually working in Social Security Administration. Um 100% what you saying is true. Nothing has happened on the ground that would impact the level of payments going to people that legitimately are owed those payments. Period. A lot is going to happen to people that are stealing from the system. Yeah. Yeah. They're not getting the payments.

And you know who's screaming? They are. cuz they're committing fraud and we should take that away from them cuz they're stealing from all of us in this room and our parents and they're going to scream loud and it's going to get louder. But but thank thank you for asking that question because it you know it is something that as obvious as it sound it it's it's a it's a great question because we just need to be very crisp and clear.

Uh Doge will make sure you get your Social Security. Those will make sure you get your Medicaid. There will be no cuts to legitimate payments whatsoever. I'd like to go last if it's okay with the other gentlemen. Can Would you like to go, sir? Please go. Thank you, Mr. Musk. Thank you so much for coming to Wisconsin. Um, I just want to thank you for calling out bad ideas on X.

You do that like every 30 minutes and if I don't see something I'm like, "Wow, you alone." Okay. Yeah. Um Yeah. And we all know that ideas have consequences and bad ideas have victims. And um thank you for speaking up for victims.

And a few nights ago when you spoke uh with Brett Bear when you were being interviewed and he asked you what keeps you up at night and like that other question, you answered and you paused and it was depopulation and I was waiting for you to say like, "Oh, the death threats against my life or uh the national debt or but depopulation." Yeah, depopulation is a really big deal. it's not on people's radar. Why is that?

Um, well, I think I think we we haven't yet evolved to deal with depopulation. You know, it's it's a I guess uh it's it's something we better evolve to deal with uh or or we're going to disappear. Um and and once the depopulation ball starts rolling, you know, it seems to gather up speed.

I mean you can look at sort of cases like Korea and Japan which are um you know much further ahead or behind depending on how you look at it but that like the population decline there is much worse. Japan is an absolute publication population decline. So they're losing about I think roughly a million people a year above population and that's going to accelerate.

Um, Korea is has only a third replacement rate which means that in three generations the country will be three or 4% of its current size. Like basically all that'll be left is a small portion of the capital city. Um, so and I keep waiting for the birth rate to turn around but it doesn't. Um, it seems like population collapse accelerates. Um and uh that's why I think it's it's a very serious matter.

It's it if you believe in humanity at all, you should care about this a lot. Um and then you know that that's sort but that you know that's a sort of long-term thing and in the the short term thing is is remaining is that America needs to be financially solvent. um you know that's that's what Doge is about trying to just make sure America is financially solvent and um and then there's also the risks of AI.

Uh so we want to make sure that that AI is is maximally truth seeeking um and you know ideally has sort of values that most Americans would agree with. um that and that it's a prohuman uh AI that it wants to foster the future of humanity. Um you know those those are the things that I think about. So thanks Elon. My name is Matt Hos like Bonanza big hos. I uh own and operate a small business here in the Fox Valley.

Um, and tomorrow I actually get the honor and the privilege to host Brad Shiml at our shop, Springetti Landscaping. If anyone's in the valley, sounds good. Come down 4 4:30 tomorrow. We're having a shindig to have Brad stop by. He's going to come and give a little speech, get some uh some That's what this was about was Brad's election. And so I just wanted to say, in your opinion, what is Brad gonna do for small business owners like myself?

Um, well, I think he's gonna help get the government off your back. Uh, so that's a big deal. Um, you know, for for anyone that starts a business, you know, it's like you used to just be able to open a store and not get like a zillion permits and licenses and everything. Uh, you know, that's how America, you wanted to make a product, you just made the product.

Um, and you didn't have to satisfy a massive body of regulations and get a permission from all sorts of agencies. So hopefully um Justice Shiml is uh you know supports that and and helps get the government off your back. All right. So let me uh finish by saying obviously at the state level. Yeah, those are the state level be cool. Um but uh just just remember like this the importance of the election on Tuesday is gigantic.

It could it could decide the f the future of the House of Representatives. It could decide then the future of America and the future of the world. So, it's absolutely critical uh that you really you need to just drag friends and family to vote on Tuesday uh for Justice Shiml and for voter ID. So, thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. [Music] I don't want to work. I want to bang on all day. [Applause]