埃隆·马斯克。[掌声] 谢谢，谢谢。[掌声] 大家好。[音乐] 你得知道，巴黎没有人相信你会亲自到场。他们都说，不，他不会来。他已经去凡尔赛参加“选择法国”峰会了，所以他不会来，只会通过视频出现。那么这是真的吗？你是真的吗？我是全息影像。啊，该死，全息影像还是仿生人？埃隆，很高兴也很荣幸邀请到你，所以感谢你专程前来。我知道这并不十分容易，而且我还知道，这是我人生中第一次采访一位性格内向的人。是的，是的。你告诉过我。我一开始就是那样。对，害羞而且内向。没错。所以我要请观众，让我们对埃隆温柔一点，因为他太害羞了，需要你们的支持，而且

除此之外，[掌声] 还要在他母亲面前讲话，所以你们可以想象这有多困难。[掌声] 那么，正如你所看到的，自从我们宣布你将参加后，场面一直相当，呃，不同寻常，因为所有人都想来这里。所以我们不得不更换场地。我们原本有一个非常朴素、只能容纳1 500人的房间，后来不得不搬到这里。你得知道，巴黎圆顶体育馆是上演音乐剧的地方。是的。所以我们不指望你唱歌或跳舞，但如果你能表演，我们会非常高兴。是的，嘿。不过你还得知道，史蒂夫·乔布斯每次做主题演讲或发布新产品时都会来到这个房间，就是这里。好吧。所以我希望你喜欢这个象征意义。当然。而且你，你不需要任何介绍，你的名字

就是一个品牌，已经是一个品牌了。它是一个代表创新、代表雄心、代表一款香水的品牌。是的，是的。这就是你几个小时前与，呃，没有家族达成的协议。我的意思是，它，我是说，真的，它自己就成了品牌。是的。而且你是PayPal、Tesla、SpaceX的起源，仅举几例，甚至还有OpenAI。所以，是的，你喜欢冒险，而且总是逆潮流和大众智慧而行。事实一直证明你是对的。现在一直有，现在有一个价值440亿美元的赌注，问题是，你在Twitter这件事上还会是对的吗？当然。呃，所以它很贵。对，对。我不知道是否，嗯，你知道，听着，如果我这么聪明，那我为什么要为Twitter付这么多钱呢？[笑声] 因为我不是记者，所以我并不是想制造头条，也不是想得到挑衅性的

回答并抢到独家新闻，但尽管如此，如果你愿意那样做，也是被允许的。好，太好了。所以我们期待你真正把这场秀做起来，因为每个人来到这里都是为了看你、听你讲话，并获得一些你拥有的魔力。好的，嗯，大家都想听我说些什么，我深感荣幸。很高兴看到这么多人，而且，呃，我知道你们这些人看起来很棒。所以，不过你告诉过我，你想要，你说过你想用法语讲话。哦，我的天。外国的。[笑声] [掌声] 有些人相信你是天才，而且，是的，也有一些人，你们会相信你是邪恶的。所以，但我的意思是，你可以两者兼具。你可以是一个邪恶天才，那也不，呃，你知道。所以那就是你，或者你会让

人们得出那个结论，嗯，呃，我，嗯，绝对不邪恶。告诉我，你觉得你的前面有什么？哦，是的，如果你仔细看，就能看到我头上的天使光环，还有翅膀，呃，很不明显，不过，是的。翅膀在哪里？是的，它们很……它们很难看见，但如果你仔细看，你知道，它们就在那里。是的，是的，小翅膀，是的。[音乐] 努力做到不邪恶。嗯，所以，呃，是的，嗯，好吧，所以这还不够。你做了很多行动，创建了很多公司。对每个人来说，最重要的问题是：到底是什么驱动着你？为什么你如此痴迷于新的行动、新的创造、新的事情？是的，答案是冰毒。如果你觉得红牛能给你翅膀，嗯，那么，天哪，那……那……

那场官司可能会很刺痛，嗯，所以，嗯，是的，开个玩笑，郑重声明。[笑声] 嗯，所以，我认为这些公司为了它们的核心使命，仍然有很多事情要做。嗯，你知道，就电动汽车、可持续能源而言，全球车队中仍有不到1%是电动的。所以道路上大约有20亿辆轿车和卡车，但目前仍然只有不到2000万辆是电动的。因此，在可持续能源方面还有很长的路要走，在，嗯，可持续能源生产方面也是如此。所以，这个，你知道，Tesla 的使命，我认为我们已经取得了很大进展，但前方仍然，嗯，还有更多事情要做。然后是 SpaceX，目标是，呃，这是一个宏大的目标，但我们想努力让生命成为多行星生命，将生命扩展到地球之外，我认为这很重要。

原因有很多，但，嗯，是的，有一种防御性的理由，就是确保意识之光不会熄灭。如果我讲这些问题讲得太久了，你可以随时打断我，不过……不，不，你可以。好，好。所以，嗯，你知道，人们确实会问我，你知道，呃，我有没有见过不明飞行物，呃，还有外星人之类的东西，而，嗯，我没有。嗯，而且我觉得我现在应该已经见过了。嗯，所以看起来，我们可能……这个……我们可能是唯一的意识，呃，至少在这个星系中是如此。而且，嗯，如果是这样，那是一种有点可怕的前景，因为，呃，这意味着意识之光就像……它就像浩瀚黑暗中的一支小蜡烛，我们应该尽一切努力防止那支蜡烛熄灭。所以，是的，而且，而且，所以，所以……

其中一些事情，所以这显然意味着采取行动，确保地球是良好的，确保地球对文明而言是安全且有保障的。嗯，而且我认为，这也意味着将生命扩展到地球之外，嗯，扩展到太阳系的其他行星，并最终扩展到其他恒星系统。嗯，我认为那既是对意识之光的一种保护，同时，嗯，我认为也是一个激励点，因为生活不能只是不断解决，嗯，一个又一个问题。我们需要能激励我们的事物。我的意思是，我们需要能触动我们内心的事物，让你早晨醒来时，会为活着而感到兴奋。成为一个航天文明，并让我们在优秀科幻电影中看到的事物成为现实，这是其中一件……

我认为能够激励全人类的事情。就像，你知道，当，嗯，宇航员在69年登上月球时，那是一件……当时他们说“为了全人类”，你知道，而那确实是一件……你问地球上的任何一个人，什么是……它是什么……人类做过的最了不起的事情是什么，很多……至少其中一件会是我们登上了月球，你知道。所以你会希望拥有这些鼓舞人心的事情，让你为活着而感到兴奋，也对未来感到兴奋。嗯，是的。而你……你小时候就有这些想法和梦想吗，还是这些是在很久以后才出现的？嗯，我小时候并不认为自己会做这些事情，嗯，这一点可以肯定。我对技术感兴趣，也读了很多书。嗯，所以我显然……

对科学感兴趣。我的意思是，这几乎一点都不会让人意外。我对科幻小说和技术感兴趣。你必须说实话，因为听你说，哈。是的，我妈妈就在这里，如果这不……不准确，她可以当场揭穿我。不过，嗯，所以我想，从哲学角度看，也许最重要的事情是，当我大约12或13岁时，我经历了某种存在主义危机，当时我就像……我就像，什么……生命的意义是什么？生命只是毫无意义吗？我们为什么在这里？这一切都意味着什么？而且，嗯，我读了很多关于宗教和哲学的书。嗯，然后最终，那个，你知道，我读了《银河系漫游指南》这本书，它很棒。嗯，在那本书中，那本书是……

实际上是一本披着幽默外衣的哲学书，而道格拉斯·亚当斯提出的观点是，真正的困难在于理解该对那个作为宇宙的答案提出什么问题，而我们……那个……我们真正想要……我们想要拥有……它本质上，如果它像是一种好奇心哲学，就是说，那么，我们能做些什么来进一步了解宇宙的，那个，本质，以及，嗯，生命的意义？所以那就是……那就是一种基础要素，然后由此出发，你会说，好吧，如果我们想弄清生命的意义，就必须扩大意识的范围和规模。我们必须走出去，探索群星，才能知道该对宇宙提出什么问题，并理解宇宙，而那就是……

那就是我的核心哲学。嗯，而且，所以由此就会得出，我们必须确保，呃，地球是良好的，所以我们必须拥有可持续能源。嗯，我们，嗯，我们想要建造能够前往地球之外的技术，而在大多数情况下，正是从这种核心哲学中诞生了这些公司。嗯，他们可以说，Twitter 对此有什么帮助？[笑声] 我想回到地球。当然。以及你为韩国做出贡献或共同创办或创办的各个企业。让我们从 PayPal 开始。这是一家非常令人印象深刻的公司，你后悔卖掉它吗？嗯，我……我认为事后看来，我觉得公司被 eBay 收购是……是一件好事，嗯，因为 PayPal 有如此多的人才，而这些人才后来继续……

创办了许多其他公司。嗯，所以，呃，例如 YouTube 是由2名曾在 PayPal 工作的人创办的。嗯，呃，我们有……LinkedIn 是从……从 PayPal 创办出来的，还有 Yelp，还有很多其他公司。嗯，是的，是的，非常令人印象深刻。是的，所以，而且如果我当时仍在做 PayPal，那么我……就不会有，你知道，Tesla 就不会是现在的形态，SpaceX 也不会存在。是的，所以，而且，是的，我想简短回答，是的，短期……抱歉，是的，是的，是的。不过现在，在内心里，你会希望再次保留它吗？嗯，有……我认为有潜力去做一件，嗯，呃，比 PayPal 更大的事情。这有点像 X，那种所谓的万能应用之类的东西。所以我……我认为这多少有点富有诗意，就像我们正在努力得到一个好的……好的结局。

一项大约24年前开始的任务，嗯，我认为它，我认为我们，它在X会很有用，Twitter会是一个非常有用的东西，嗯，希望它能成为推动文明进步的一股积极力量。转到Tesla，我曾通过我们的一个运营，不要，为通用汽车的电动汽车做第一个广告宣传活动，那是在90年代末，所以你能解释一下为什么通用汽车和其他汽车制造商没有创造出Tesla，以及为什么Tesla会成功，区别是什么？嗯，你说的基本上是EV1，那辆EV1汽车，它当时是，所以，呃，通用汽车实际上确实推出了这款，呃，电动汽车一号EV1，而且它，呃，是的，你记得如果你想，是的，是的，嗯，而且，呃，实际上，所以我当时想，那是97年，是的，听起来

差不多，对，嗯，我本来，我原以为会有 EV2、EV3 等等，如果他们真的这样做了，其实就不会需要 Tesla，嗯，但，嗯，由于一些并不清楚的原因，他们，通用汽车召回了所有 EV1，甚至包括那些真的想保留这些车的客户手中的车，他们召回这些车，然后在废品场把它们压碎了，而这、这件事，他们这样做至今仍让我难以置信，因为，那些拥有 EV1 的人，他们太喜欢这种成本了，以至于他们在这些车被压碎的废品场举行了一场烛光守夜，好吧，就像、就像有人被杀了一样，你知道，就像，如果有人为其余部分举行烛光守夜，因为他们非常喜欢你的产品，也许你应该多生产一些，你知道。

我的意思是，为有帮助的产品举行坎德勒守夜之类的事相当少见，所以我、我不明白他们为什么没有做更多，他们本应该这么做，而他们今天本会成为电动汽车领域的领导者，但他们没有，他们没有，所以需要 Tesla，因为，你知道，在创办 Tesla 的时候，没有人在生产电动汽车，嗯，而且他们是，所以大型汽车公司不生产电动汽车，据我们所知也没有初创公司在生产电动汽车，所以就像，好吧，我们应该试试，而且，嗯，我的意思是，就 Tesla 和 SpaceX 而言，我认为成功的机会可能是 10，所以我只是觉得，我以为它会成功，我以为它会失败，嘿，很好，听着，现在转向孩子们的梦想，也就是成为

一名宇航员，而不是制造火箭，你如何从每个孩子都有的想法转变过来，我也会成为宇航员，我会做可重复使用的火箭，是的，嗯，你忘了，没有，我、我正试着把故事压缩一下，让它们不要太长，嗯，因为这个故事实际上相当长，因为我一开始并不想做火箭，我最初打算做这个，嗯，名为“火星绿洲”的火星慈善任务，然后当我开始调查，嗯，发射这次火星任务需要什么时，基本上就是一个小温室，它的目的是激励公众，而我开始进一步了解火箭能够用来做什么，我实际上去过俄罗斯几次，试图购买他们的一些核导弹，嗯，去掉核，去掉核弹头。

那个另算，嗯，所以 2001 年人在俄罗斯、谈判购买他们最大的导弹中的 2 枚，这相当疯狂，但、但事情变得很清楚，嗯，除非火箭方面出现某种新事物，否则它们，那、那才是根本问题，进入太空的成本才是根本问题，所以这并不是、这并不是一个试图提高公众意愿的问题，公众对太空与探索的意愿非常高，但需要有一种手段，需要有一条途径，嗯，而且，呃，进入奥本的成本需要得到彻底改善，嗯，所以我当时想，好吧，我要试着创办一家火箭公司，看看它能不能成功，但就像我说的，我、我当时告诉人们，因为、因为人们会对我说，就告诉

我这个笑话，比如最快的是什么，你知道，什么、什么是，你知道，你怎么从，对不起，嗯，对不起，我领口下面有点热了，嗯，我想很多人都是，嗯，所以他们会说，在火箭行业让我们赚到一小笔财富的最快方法是什么，而它的笑点是，你先拥有一大笔财富，所以不管怎样，有一段时间进展、进展很艰难，我们最初的 3 次发射失败了，幸运的是第 4 次成功了，如果第 4 次没有成功，SpaceX 就不会存在，所以真的是险之又险，快进到后来，你创建了，或者说你共同创建了 OpenAI，是的，ChatGPT 取得了难以置信的成功，难以置信地成功，它是有史以来增长最快的故事，而在创建了公开的眼睛之后，你突然说，哦，我们应该

摆一个姿势，有些人说，哦，这是因为他没有把它做好，我的意思是，我没想到真的会有人同意这个姿势，但我想，只是为了留个记录，我只想说，我认为我们应该暂停，我没想到，呃，那个，你为什么想拍摄姿势，嗯，我认为数字超级智能造成负面后果确实存在真正的危险，所以如果我们在创造通用人工智能时不谨慎，我们可能会遇到灾难性的结果，所以现在我认为存在一系列可能性，我认为最可能的结果是 AI 带来积极影响，但这、但那并不是每一种可能的结果，所以我们需要尽量降低，嗯，数字超级智能出问题的概率，是的，所以我赞成

对 AI 进行监管，因为我认为先进 AI 对公众构成风险，而任何给公众带来风险的事物，都需要某种裁判，这个裁判就是监管机构，所以我认为那、那就是我的强烈建议，即对 AI 实施一些监管，对 AI 实施一些监管，是的，这也是你希望对 Twitter 实施的吗，我不确定是监管，我想已经有很多、很多监管机构了，当然。那么说到 Twitter，你、你在 Twitter 上下了很大的赌注，你几分钟前说过，你付的钱太多了，是的，是的，而你现在正继续推进 Twitter 2。

0 或 3。

0，呃，据我了解，这是对公司的全面重塑。呃，是的，所以公司正在非常迅速地演变。是的，公司正在发生相当剧烈的变化。关于 Twitter 有很多争议，所以我其实有3个非常简短的问题。第1个是，你为什么决定收购；第2个是，Twitter 出了什么问题，促使你采取行动；最后一个问题——并不是最后的问题，只是这3个中的最后一个，因为还有许多其他问题——是，你为什么相信自己会成功，而且你会很好？谢谢。嗯，我可以想象，我无法想象你会不好。谢谢。那么，显然，我是 Twitter 的一名主要用户，甚至在收购完成之前，我的 Twitter 账号就是全世界互动量最高的账号，所以我的……

我想我会……我对 Twitter 正在发生的事情相当敏锐，你知道，我能感觉到它是如何朝一个方向或另一个方向变化的。呃，总的来说，我担心 Twitter 正在对文明产生负面影响，正在对公民社会产生侵蚀作用。嗯，所以，你知道，任何削弱文明的事情，我认为都不好。你知道，回到我刚才的观点，就是我们需要尽一切可能支持文明，并推动它朝积极的方向发展。嗯，我觉得 Twitter 会……一直在越来越朝负面方向发展，而我的希望和愿望是改变这一点，让它成为推动文明的积极力量。以前人们并不是这样看待它的，很高兴听到……

这种做法，但人们的看法非常不同。嗯，我认为这要看情况。我的意思是，我认为如果某人是 Twitter 的常规用户，我想大多数人都会说，他们的体验有所改善。嗯，我们已经清除了90的机器人账号、骗局以及当时发生的各种坏事。嗯，到目前为止，我们现在已经清除了 Twitter 上我认为95的儿童剥削材料，看到这类材料的数量令人震惊，真的非常糟糕。呃，其中一些已经持续了10年，却没有采取任何行动。所以我认为，我们在这方面做了很多好事。嗯，然后我认为，你知道，我们还做了一些事情，比如把算法开源了，所以我们正努力做到尽可能透明。

所以 Twitter 是唯一一家让你能够看到算法实际代码的社交媒体公司，因此它不像某种秘密黑箱。嗯，我的意思是，建立信任的方式是公平的信任，不要只听我说，让我们……让我们向你准确展示它是如何运作的，完全透明。嗯，而且……而且我们还将展示，比如，如果你的账号以任何方式受到 Twitter 系统的影响，你都可以清楚地看到。嗯，呃，就是，你知道，正在朝着我认为不错的方向发展。嗯，我们……我认为推荐算法——我不想在 Twitter 上讲得太久——但我认为它，我……我认为它实际上相当不错，而那些在 Twitter 系统上的人，我认为总体上觉得它不错。嗯，你知道，我们看到使用量创下历史……

新高，所以至少，你知道，对外面的公众来说，他们使用这个系统更多了。嗯，所以我们看到使用量逐周出现相当显著的增长。嗯，所以，你知道，公众正在用他们的时间表态，如果他们把时间花在 Twitter 上，那就是一个非常好的信号。嗯，所以这……这……这是非常积极的。你会对那些离开 Twitter 的广告商说些什么，来说服他们回来？是的，实际上我应该说，嗯，可能有少数例外，嗯，几乎所有广告商都表示，他们要么已经回来了，要么说他们会回来。所以实际上，我对未来感到相当、相当乐观。嗯，而且……是的，所以，你知道，实际上在这一点上，我相信，我不知道有任何广告商是……

呃，他们要么已经回来了，要么说他们会回来。我不知道有任何例外。可能有少数例外，但总体而言，我认为这……这是非常积极的。很好，所以现在我们将进行一场更广泛的对话。我们将请 Orange 的首席执行官克里斯蒂安妮·德曼加入我们，还有来自 LVMH 的安托万·阿尔诺，以及来自律师的迪拜先生。我们必须挪动一下，好让那里放椅子，所以到这边来。[掌声] 因为……你知道他们为什么在安排，那里有……是的，是的，是的，是的，是的，是的，有1个问题。是的，我想要……[音乐] [掌声] 处理一下。所以我们终于又都聚在一起了。我还有另一个问题，但我会留到稍后再问。我会把发言权交给克里斯托。克里斯托·德曼是 Orange 的首席执行官，而且……

她非常兴奋，想向你提出一些尖锐而困难的问题。开始吧。Twitter，是的。[音乐] 这件事还有另一方面，那就是可能会有一些虚假信息、假新闻。假新闻？什么？那太疯狂了。你相信那个？等等，我怎么知道这是真的？现在的问题是，事实上，我认为这还有另一方面，你需要社交网络，而且欧盟已经针对这些信息提出了一项行为准则。好的，推文决定去机场。那么，这是因为 Twitter 不尊重信息需要被审核这一事实吗？事实上，你一直对内容审核直言不讳，所以你对此有什么看法？嗯，我总体上赞成，我们应该尽可能拥有言论自由，在允许的最大范围内……

受任何国家的法律约束，所以，嗯，你知道，我认为，比如对法国来说，我们应该，嗯，允许法律所允许的事情；如果人们希望法律有所不同，那就通过一项不同的法律，我们会遵守那项法律。但 Twitter 要超越法律，你知道，这在我看来不太对。我，我认为我们希望允许人们表达自己。嗯，而且，而且说真的，如果你非要问言论自由什么时候重要，那么言论自由很重要，而且只有在人们获准说出你不喜欢的话时，它才有意义，因为否则那就不是言论自由。嗯，而且，而且我会认为，如果，如果有人说了某些，你知道，可能令人不快的话，但那，那实际上没关系。现在，不，我们不会推广那些

你知道，令人不快的，呃，推文，但是，呃，但我认为人们应该能够说话，因为另一种选择就是审查。然后，而且坦率地说，我认为如果你走上审查这条路，审查转而落到你头上只是时间问题。所以这就是它很重要的原因。嗯，你知道，在美国有第一修正案，呃，言论自由修正案。然后他说，比如，他们为什么要那么做？他们为什么通过那项修正案？那是因为他们在自己原来所在的国家里无法说出自己想说的话，而他们想确保自己能够说出想说的话。所以我相信人民有说话的自由，呃，即使有人这么说了，那实际上在某些方面也是健康的标志

如果人们能够，如果某个你不喜欢的人能够说出某些你不喜欢的话，与其试图压制它，不如说，你知道吗，这是个好迹象，因为这意味着我也可以说话，而那个人不会喜欢我说的话，但我仍然可以说出来，而这真的非常重要。[掌声] 尤其是在这个国家，我是说，言论自由，那是非常，我是说，处于我们价值观核心的东西。但现在，如果我们看看年轻人、身处数字领域，以及我们提供人们使用的数字服务，也出现了网络霸凌和骚扰的趋势，我认为我们都，这也是我们的职责，要教育年轻人如何使用技术，并确保，因为有些行为，我是说，在 Twitter 或其他社交

网络上实际上可能对人们产生毁灭性的影响。呃，Twitter 是否正在为此做些什么，或者你是否愿意与其他参与者合作？事实上，我们在 Orange 在这方面做了很多。当然，我，我是说，这是真的。我认为，我认为，你知道，Twitter 肯定愿意与其他人合作。嗯，就像我说的，总体目标是让 Twitter 成为一种力量，一种推动文明进步的积极力量。嗯，你知道，所以，而且，而且，而且如果，如果你在这个平台上，而你正在遭受骚扰或霸凌之类的，那显然是一种负面体验。嗯，所以，嗯，所以，你知道，我们正在做的是，我们称之为某种言论自由，但不是传播自由。呃，也就是说，如果你，是的，你可以说令人不快的话，但随后你的内容会被降

级，所以如果你是个混蛋，你的触达范围就会下降。所以，是的，我认为这是正确的做法。[音乐] 嗯，Antoine，我不知道你是否会与那个真的竞争，为埃隆·马斯克推出未来的香水，而且品牌必须，所以你必须非常努力地竞争。但也许你，我知道你已经吃过午餐了，但一直没有甜点，所以你可以提出你的问题。好的，首先，我谨代表，嗯，非常感谢你来到这里。是的，这个集团是 Viva Tech 的联合主办方，而且，呃，很高兴有你参加，欢迎。那么，从 Twitter 换个，呃，话题。在 LVMH，我们最古老的 Maison 叫作 claudulombre。我看到你很喜欢好酒。是的。嗯，它有 650 年历史了。哇。Louis Vuitton 创立于 1854 年。我们最古老的美国 Maison，Tiffany

创立于1837年。

LVMH 旗下所有 Maison 存续年数的总和是 8 393 年。哇。Tesla 是个青少年，对吧？是的，是的，19，19 年。是的，而且它的市值已经高于 LVMH。[笑声] 是的，所以，所以第1个问题，第1个问题，你还要让我们显得这么糟糕多久？第2个问题，更严肃一些，你觉得创造价值在传统业务还是创新业务中更具挑战性？嗯，首先，能来到这里并与你交谈是我的荣幸，所以谢谢你邀请我。你知道，估值是，是一种奇怪的东西，因为，嗯，你知道，有时候我说，嘿，我认为 Tesla 的股价太高了，然后股价就上涨了。我就想，好吧。所以如果你，你发推文，它是涨还是跌？不，疯狂的是，我是说，当我创造了

我认为股价太高时，它几乎总会上涨，所以我不知道，这是件奇怪的事。所以我，我想，就 Tesla 而言，如果这，这，这家公司真正的，这个价值主要是，呃，建立在自动驾驶的基础上。所以，呃，在我看来，嗯，因为如果你看我们的汽车总产量，它，嗯，今年会接近 200 万辆汽车，或者差不多这个数。嗯，但那，那仍然只占汽车总产量的 2%。那么为什么我们的市值这么高？这是因为自动驾驶的潜力。嗯，自动驾驶的，这个价值如此之高，嗯，以至于即使，即使你对自动驾驶实现的概率打了折扣，它仍然价值高得令人难以置信。嗯，所以普通乘用车每周只使用大约 10

小时，所以平均每天大约 1.5 小时。但如果你有一辆自动驾驶的机器人出租车，在 168 小时中，它的使用时间可能是每周 50 或 60 小时。所以现在你有了一辆成本相同、但效用是 5 倍的汽车。所以这是，这是一个极其巨大的变化，而那确实是，我认为，呃，驱动我们价值的主要因素。尽管我以前说过这话，我认为我们很快就会解决自动驾驶问题。多亏了 Tesla 将处在这个市场枪的水平。呃，不，我没有预料到 Tesla 会达到这个水平，因为它实在是格外不公平，顺便说一句，我是说，我并不设定价格。所以，是的，你没说。也许再问一个简短的问题。嗯，我前几天试用了 mid-journey。是的，返回太惊艳了，对吧？而且，而且我要求这个软件制作一场 Louis

Vuitton 广告活动，只用了 2 个词。所以在这里，这对你来说是个糟糕的问题，Maurice，对吧？如果，如果你要，如果你想让我失业，那正是我的问题。你觉得这个广告制作行业会受到 AI 的威胁吗？小心回答。完全不会，它绝对安全。[笑声] 我是说，AI 肯定会成为一股大规模的颠覆性力量。我是说，它，AI 可能是有史以来最具颠覆性的技术。嗯，我是说，疯狂的是，你知道，人类拥有的，这个优势是，呃，我们比其他生物更聪明。比如，如果我们和一只大猩猩打架，大猩猩肯定会赢。嗯，但我们很聪明。所以，但现在将首次出现某种比最聪明的人类还要聪明的东西，比如聪明得多

比最聪明的人类聪明。而且正如你从一次旅程中所看到的，AI 能够创作的艺术令人难以置信，它太美了，而且它，你知道，几秒钟内就能完成。所以我们正处于，我是说，对吧，我想，你知道，有那种说法，愿你活在有趣的时代，而我觉得这有时并不完全是件好事。但，但我们实际上生活在，我认为我们生活在最有趣的时代。嗯，AI 的到来，而且我实际上曾一度自问，比如，呃，你是否，你知道，我真的想活在这个时候吗？比如说发生了某种 AI 末日决战，嗯，发生了某种 AI 大灾变，我想我仍然会想活在这个时代亲眼看看，而且希望，你知道，希望不是，不是促成它，但这只是一个，我认为

我们生活在一个极其有趣的时代，你知道，因为你现在看到 AI 能够做的事情，它会随着每一年过去而做得更多。汽车绝对会自动驾驶，而且比任何人都开得更好。我们会拥有人形机器人，比如，Tesla 正在开发一种人形机器人，准备叫它 T800。它是一个，是的，有些人听懂了那个笑话。[笑声] 它是终结者。嗯，所以我们可以把那个发成推文。是的。嗯，但如果你，比如说，不是吗，经济是什么？经济是人均 GDP 乘以资本。现在，如果你实际上没有资本上限，会发生什么？如果你拥有无限数量的，呃，某种人或机器人，到那时，经济具有什么含义就不清楚了，因为实际上你拥有一个无限的经济体。嗯，所以，所以，比如

从 AI 好的一面、积极的一面来说，我认为我们正在迈向一个富足时代。嗯，在那里，你想要的任何商品和服务都可以直接拥有。嗯，所以那就是，那就是 AI 未来的，这个，这个积极面，是一个富足时代。从广告方面来说，他们一定会说，我们使用 AIC 已经很多年了，它给了我们很大帮助，而这是一个我们已经在使用的工具。我认为它将帮助我们更快地制作出一些非常好的广告。在它们取代创意头脑之前，可能还需要很长时间。呃，Asmita，也许你对此有看法，也许你可以，Asmita 是 L'Oreal 的首席数字官，她，她非常了解数字领域，所以也许你可以跟我们谈一点广告和 AI，并提出你的问题

问埃兰，所以我接着广告以及你之前谈到的 Twitter 来说，现在我们知道 Twitter 很昂贵，也知道它旨在实现言论自由，我的问题是，在当前背景下，如何赢得广告商的信任，成为他们首选的社交媒体平台，要知道，预计 2023 年的收入低于 2022 年。你引入了新的领导者琳达，所以我想知道，我们将如何赢得这种信任，琳达是否会有时间、支持和自由，因为她是广告专家，所以，所以她能否应对这种情况，又将如何应对？是的，我，我认为，我认为琳达很棒。嗯，所以我认为琳达将为，为 Twitter 做出，呃，非常了不起的事情，而且显然非常

深入理解广告商的顾虑，我认为我们会在解决这些顾虑方面做得很出色。嗯，要知道，关键部分是，嗯，要知道，让我这么说吧，如果你是一名广告商，你希望自己的广告出现在什么内容旁边，而这取决于是什么广告商，你知道，取决于品牌的敏感程度。例如，假设你是迪士尼，正在为一部儿童电影做广告，那么你会希望旁边是，你知道，适合所有年龄段的内容，你知道。嗯，顺便说一句，迪士尼是我们最大的广告商之一。所以，嗯，所以，所以其实就是要确保相邻内容符合，呃，一个品牌所能接受的范围。然后在某些情况下，那些内容就像，你知道，不会有任何广告，因为没有人想在旁边投放广告

它，而那将会是一些更具争议性的内容，嗯，是的，你知道，因为我们刚才谈到了内容，你刚刚宣布将与创作者分享广告收入，是的，是的，而且这是有条件的，将在他们是经过验证的蓝勾创作者时进行，而广告是面向经过验证的卢蒂克用户，是的，那么这样一来，这会如何影响你对订阅收入的关注，因为要获得蓝勾，呃，你知道，需要订阅，而这与对广告收入的关注相对，是的，所以很重要的一部分是，比如当你说，比如某个东西获得了多少次展示，呃，你会说，嗯，那些展示是真实的还是不真实的，你知道，它是不是，呃，你知道，只是一台计算机在运行100000个虚假账户，因为

那显然不算，因为计算机不会购买任何东西，嗯，所以这就是为什么我们的重点是经过验证的用户，因为我们承认，在 Twitter，我们把验证和订阅混在了一起，呃，所以你可以说是经过验证的订阅者或类似的称呼，那是无法钻空子的，所以你知道它是真实的，你知道它是可靠的，而且你知道它不是计算机，嗯，所以这就是为什么，就是为什么我们专注于这一点，嗯，是为了确保浏览量的真实性，并确保确实，呃，是真人在看正在发生的事情，我是说，社交媒体上机器人、诈骗和垃圾信息活动的绝对数量简直疯狂，而我们谈到 AI，很明显，尤其是用今天的 AI，计算机可以通过每一种，比如

“你是人类吗”测试，事实上，我认为它们通过你所有人类测试的表现可以比人类更好，你知道，有点像你说，识别一个交通信号灯或类似的东西，好吧，让我告诉你，Tesla 可以识别一种交通生活，所以如果我们，你知道，但甚至像现在的开源，呃，AI 之类的东西，嗯，也可以通过所有人类测试，所以你必须有某种比那更好的身份验证，是的，是的，我认为，嗯，信心和信任是我们很快就会失去、却要慢慢才能重新获得的东西，我个人毫不怀疑，只要你做正确的事，Twitter 就会重新赢得信任，而且我确信你会做正确的事，所以这可能只是时间长河中的一个小波折，但你需要做正确的事

而且我确信你，你会做到，我有2个小问题，其中1个与乌克兰有关，你曾，呃，极大地帮助了乌克兰，是的，在一开始用星链，而我认为我们欠你很多，因为没有接入，我说的是互联网，也无法使用通信，这场战争本来已经结束了，呃，你怎么看那段经历，是的，那是一个，我是说，整个局势非常复杂，嗯，可不是嘛，是的，真的真的很复杂，嗯，正如你指出的，星链确实发挥了关键作用，嗯，因为俄罗斯实际上已经摧毁了所有卫星通信和所有地面通信，除了星链，它是唯一仍在运行的，嗯，而且即使在今天，它仍然是前

线唯一有效的，而，呃，拖延如今是乌克兰军事通信的骨干，所以你知道，我觉得提供帮助很重要，嗯，而且，嗯，但我，但我的确，我的确希望很快能有某种解决方案，因为我，我认为这太悲惨了，那些是乌克兰和俄罗斯最优秀的年轻人，呃，他们并不想在那里，嗯，他们现在却死在战壕里，而我，我当然希望我们能想出某种办法，尽快撒尿，外国的，回到这群人，你这里有很多初创企业，有很多想要成功的年轻人，你会给他们哪2条或3条建议，嗯，那边有人有问题，是的，呃，我们有麦克风吗，因为埃隆已经同意接受台下的提问，夏洛特，一个

麦克风是，来，你拿着麦克风，你来，是的，好吧，我不知道为什么是你拿到了麦克风，但请说吧，嗯，所以我有一个关于你过去10年里所有不同公司和项目的问题，我看到了一种模式，似乎识别出了简短问题和［音乐］火星，在地球上制造大型真空真的很难，但在火星上，说到 Tesla 电动汽车就容易多了，显然，是的，是的，而且我是说 SpaceX 是无助的，嗯，好吧，是的，把我的自行车给他们，是的，是的，呃，我是说，缅甸基本上应该开个房间，我，我爱火星，好吧，不不不不不，现在我要你把麦克风给出去，抱歉各位，呃，我在那里，好吧，所以问题是什么，问题是什么，我的名字是……创始人兼首席执行官，在 Click Out，我们让 AI 变得微小，所以 Tesla 是我们的目标之一，我非常希望

和你一起工作，艾伦，我丈夫实际上是前电影线，他非常喜欢基础设施，还有 Emma locks，好吧，好吧，当然，哦，[掌声] 好吧，最后一个问题，大家，随便，好的，你想做多久都行，不，不，完全疯狂，是的，[音乐] 嗯，太空，不，心理学实验室，我们正在研究心理健康，帮助人们真正去参加弥撒，当然，那很棒，问题是，你认为它有什么相关性？嗯，我认为，我认为在前往火星的旅程中，你会希望拥有非常良好的心理健康，确保每个人都神志正常，因为你不希望有人半夜打开气闸。嗯，所以我认为，如果你要去火星，神志正常非常重要，那会是一片混乱。呃，你能听到我吗？嘿，很棒的 T 恤，你谈到了欧洲的

监管，内陆，而且你知道，由于大语言模型的部署，已经有许多修正案。你认为，呃，我们如何能在当前讨论中，以一种不受控制的方式，整合这种大语言模型的使用和实际使用？呃，你能让它成为第2个吗？不，请吧，它会回答这个问题。问题不是关于大语言模型中的安全、安全性，还是……抱歉，我没听清整个问题。是关于大语言模型的安全应用，还是是什么？监管。呃，欧洲层面的监管是在我们还没有谈论 llx 时构思的，那么，为了整合这个、这个大语言模型，并且，好吧，保护免受犹太人的影响，你会在当前欧洲层面的政治教育中加入什么？好吧，当然。好吧，制定监管时，大语言模型还不存在，那么，你对监管……有什么建议

大语言模型？嗯，我认为更广泛地说，嗯，应该对大语言模型进行监管审视，实际上也包括任何其他形式的 AI。我的意思是，有个……我不确定，我……我不认为大语言模型是 AI 的终极形式。我的意思是，AI 圈里有一个内部笑话，比如，你认为 2032 年的美国总统会是谁？呃，扩散模型，还是 Transformer？[笑声] 这是个内部笑话，但是，是的，就像，那是什么意思？嗯，但那可能会是真的，可能是真的。嗯，所以，是的，我们这里真的有连衣裙，最后2个问题，这里1个，那个区域1个，所以请讲，抄袭。[音乐] 我的意思是，不，如果我们不听问题，我们就无法继续。嗯，每、每年我们都有一场初选，也就是13岁以下13人。

我的问题是，年轻人应该专注于什么业务？当然。[掌声] 谢谢。嗯，我认为，总体而言，我认为专注于某件事很重要，所以请讲，抱歉。呃，我认为，嗯，你应该专注于你个人充满热情、你个人在意的事情。嗯，要为一个你并不真正强烈认同的产品保持动力非常困难，而且它不一定非得是高科技，可以属于任何、任何领域，只是它必须是一个你觉得确实需要存在、那个、并且是你个人所热爱的产品。嗯，我会听从你对……的直觉，你知道，你是否确实喜欢这个产品或服务。嗯，因为要知道其他人喜欢什么，某种程度上是不可能的，但如果你喜欢它，那就是一个好

迹象。嗯，而且，嗯，而且那可以从小到大，可以是任何类型、任何领域，它其实不一定非得是高科技。但是，如果你不喜欢，如果你不是真的喜欢自己正在制作的产品，一个很好的检验方式是，你会迫不及待地希望这个产品上市；如果是这样，你就走在正确的方向上。很好，呃，最后一个问题，我们有，我们有一个友好的……你看，我们等……不，不，你，你，另一个孩子，我知道。好吧，好吧。[掌声] 他在问……外国。[音乐] 嗯，所以 Neuralink 是……嗯，首先，我想向所有可能担心 Neuralink 的人保证，嗯，你会看到，呃，你的链接将是一个相当缓慢的过程，因为任何在人类身上进行的事情都非常缓慢。所以有时人们认为

这种事会突然发生，我们会给每个人的头部植入芯片，然后在他们意识到之前，每个人都连接上了互联网，接着我们就有麻烦了。嗯，用你的大脑。呃，所以这会非常缓慢地发生。希望今年晚些时候，我们将进行首次，呃，人体设备植入，这将面向某个类似四肢瘫痪、全身瘫痪的人，他没有……已经失去了从大脑到身体的连接。我们认为，我们应该能够……那个人将能够以一个身体功能完全正常的人的速度进行交流。所以这将是一件大事。而且我们、而且我们看到了一条超越这一点的路径，可以真正把信号从大脑运动皮层传递出去，越过脊髓中的损伤部位，并真正使某个人的

身体能够再次被使用。所以，嗯，本质上是让信号绕过断裂点，并为一个完全失去连接的人恢复可能完整的、完整的身体功能。我的意思是，你可以想象，比如，如果斯蒂芬·霍金今天还活着，这会带来多么深远的变化。嗯，而且，嗯，所以这是我们的第一个应用，而且，呃，如果……看起来第一个案例将在今年晚些时候进行。所以，是的，太棒了。不，我想请大家以非常、非常热烈的玫瑰般的掌声欢迎埃隆·马斯克。[掌声] 好吧，谢谢，谢谢，谢谢。我只想说，你们太棒了，你们……我的意思是，看到现场有如此多的活力和如此多的正能量，真的、真的非常鼓舞人心。所以，呃，这对未来非常鼓舞人心。

Elon Musk [Applause] thank you thank you [Applause] hey guys [Music] you have to know that no one in Paris believed that you would be in person they all said no he's not coming going to come he was already at Versailles for choose France so he's not going to come and it will be a video so is it real are you real I'm a hologram ah damn hologram or an Android Elon it is a pleasure and an honor to have you so thank you for making the trip I know that it has not been very easy and I know also that for the first time in my life I will interview somebody who is introvert yes yes you told me I started out that way yeah shy and introvert that's right so I'm asking the audience to be let's be gentle with Elon because he's so shy that he needs your support and

on top of that [Applause] speaking in front of his mother so you can imagine how difficult it is [Applause] so as you have seen since we have announced your participation it has been quite uh something because everyone wanted to be here so we had to change we had a very modest room with only 1 500 people and we had to move here and you have to know that the Dom De Paris is the place where there is the musicals yeah so we are not expecting you to sing or to dance but if you can do it we would be very happy yeah hey but you have also to know that this is the room where Steve Jobs was coming every time he was doing a keynote or presenting new products it was here okay so I hope that you like the symbol sure and you you don't need any introduction your name

is a brand is already a brand it's a brand for Innovation for ambition for a perfume yes yes this is the agreement that you made with uh there are no family a few hours ago I mean it's I mean really it Brands itself yeah and you are the origin of PayPal Tesla SpaceX to name a few and even open AI so yeah you love taking risks and you are going always against the tide and the popular wisdom you have been always proven right now there is always now there is a bet of the 44 billion US dollar question which is will you still be right with Twitter sure uh so it was expensive yeah yeah I don't know if um you know listen if I'm so smart why did I pay so much for Twitter then [Laughter] so as I'm not a journalist I'm not trying to get headlines and to have provocative

response and to make a scoop but nevertheless if you wish to do that it is authorized okay great so we are expecting that you will really make the show because everyone comes here to see you and to listen to you and to get some of the magic that you have all right well I'm I'm honored that you all I want to listen to what I have to say it's a great to see the crowd and uh I know you guys seem awesome so but you told me that you would like you said that you would like to speak in French oh my goodness foreign [Laughter] [Applause] people who believe that you are a genius and yeah there are some who are you will believe that you are evil so but I mean you can be both you could be an evil genius that's not uh you know so that's what you are or you will let

the people draw that on conclusion um uh I am um definitely not evil tell me what what do you think that you have ahead of your oh yes if you look carefully you can see an angel's Halo on my head and the wings uh it's a subtle but yeah where are the wings yeah they're so they're difficult to see but if you look carefully you know they're right there yeah yeah small Wings yes [Music] aspirationally not evil um so uh yeah um okay so that wasn't enough you have done a lot of operation you have created a lot of companies the most important question for everyone is what the hell is driving you why are you so obsessed by new operation New Creation new things to do yeah crystal meth is the answer if you think Red Bull gives you wings um so man that that's that

that Court's gonna probably sting um so um yeah just kidding for the record [Laughter] um so well I think there's the companies still have a lot to do for their their core Mission um the you know for electric vehicles sustainable energy uh still less than one percent of the Global Fleet is electric so you've got about two billion cars and trucks on the road but still uh less than 20 million are electric at this point so this is a long way to go for sustainable energy for um sustainable energy generation so this you know the Tesla Mission I think we've made a lot of progress but still um it's a lot more ahead then SpaceX the goal is uh it's a big goal but it's we want to try to make life multi-planetary to extend life beyond Earth and I think this is important

for a number of reasons but um yeah there's the sort of defensive reason of ensuring that the light of Consciousness does not go out and if I made some of these questions if I'm going on too long you feel free to interrupt me but the no no you can okay okay so um you know people do ask me you know uh have I seen UFOs uh and aliens and that kind of thing and um I haven't um and I think I would have seen them by now um so it appears that we might this we might be the only Consciousness uh at least in this galaxy and um and if so that's kind of a scary Prospect because uh it means that the light of Consciousness is like it like a tiny candle in a vast Darkness and we should do everything we can to prevent that candle from going out so yeah and and so so

some of the things so that means obviously taking the actions to ensure that Earth is good that Earth is safe and secure for civilization um and it I think it also means extending life beyond Earth um to other planets in the solar system and ultimately to other star systems um and I think that's that's both a sort of defense of the light of Consciousness and also um I think a point of inspiration because the life cannot just be about solving um one problem after another we need things that Inspire us I mean we need things that move our hearts and that when you wake up in the morning you're excited to be alive and being a space-bearing civilization and making true the things that we see in the good science fiction movies this is one of the things that

I think can inspire all of humanity just like the you know when when the um astronauts went to the moon in 69 it was something that then they said For All Mankind you know and it really was something you say to any human on earth what's the what is it what's like the most amazing thing that Humanity has ever done a lot of at least one of those things would be we went to the moon you know and so you want to have these inspiring things that make you excited to be alive and excited about the future um yeah and you you had those thoughts and dreams when you are a kid though this came much later on well I didn't think I would be doing these things as a kid um that's for sure I was interested in technology and I've read a lot of books um so I was obviously

interested in science I mean this is hardly going to be surprising I was interested in science fiction and Technology you have to tell the truth because listening to you huh yeah my mom's right here she can she didn't call me out on this if it's not not accurate but um so I guess the the thing that was Maybe most significant from a philosophical standpoint was that when I was about maybe 12 or 13 I had somewhat of an existential crisis where I was like I was like what what is the meaning of Life Is Life just meaningless why are we here what does it all mean and um and I read a lot of books on religion and philosophy and um and then ultimately that you know I read this book Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy which is great um and in that book that book is

really a philosophy book that's disguised as humor and the point that Douglas Adams makes is that the the real difficulties understanding what questions to ask about the answer that is the universe and that we that that really we want to we want to have it's it's essentially if it's like a philosophy of curiosity of of saying well what can we do to find out more about the the nature of the universe and um and the meaning of life and so that's that's the sort of foundational element and then from there you say okay well if we want to find out meaning of life we have to expand the scope and scale of Consciousness we have to go out there and we explore the Stars to know what questions to ask um about the universe and and understand the universe and that's

that's my core philosophy um and and so from that it was like well we have to make sure that uh Earth is good so we have to have sustainable energy um we um we want to build technology to travel beyond Earth and that's it's from that sort of core philosophy that these companies uh arise in most cases um they can say how does Twitter help with that [Laughter] I would like to go back to Earth sure and that to the various Enterprises that you contributed to Korea or co-created or created let's start with PayPal so a very impressive company do you regret to have sold it um I I think in retrospect I think it was it was good to have that that the company was acquired by eBay um because there was so much talent at PayPal and that Talent subsequently went on

to create many other companies um so uh YouTube for example was created by two people that worked at at PayPal um uh we had there was a LinkedIn was created from from PayPal there was Yelp there was many other companies um yeah yeah very impressive yeah so and then if I'd been still working on PayPal then I there wouldn't be you know Tesla would not be in its current form and SpaceX wouldn't exist yes so and yes I guess a short answer yes short-term sorry that yes yeah yeah but now within you would have loved to keep it again well there is I think the potential to do something that is um uh bigger than PayPal this is sort of like the X the sort of everything app kind of thing so I I think it's it's somewhat poetic like we're trying to get good good finish

a task that was started about 24 years ago um I think it's I think we it's going to be useful at X Twitter is going to be just a very useful thing um and hopefully something that is a positive force for civilization and moving to Tesla and I have through one of our operation don't the first advertising campaign for the electric car of GM that was at the end of the 90s so can you explain why GM and other car manufacturers have not created Tesla and why Tesla is successful what is the difference um you're talking about the ev1 basically the ev1 car that it was so uh General Motors actually did come out with this uh electric vehicle one ev1 and it's uh yes you remember if you want yes yeah um and uh actually so I thought when that was 97 yeah that sounds

about right yeah um I would have I expected there would be an ev2 EV3 and so forth and if they've done that actually there would be no need for Tesla um but um for reasons that that aren't clear they GM recalled all of the EV ones even from customers that really wanted to keep the cars they recalled the cars and they crushed them in a junkyard and the the it was it still blows my mind that they did this because the the people who had the EV ones they love the cost so much they held a candlelit vigil at the junkyard where the cars were crushed okay like it was like like someone was getting killed you know like and it's like if somebody is holding a candlet vigil for the rest because they love your product so much maybe you should make more of it you know

I mean it's like pretty rare for Candler vigils to be helpful products so I I don't understand why they didn't do more they should have and they would be the leader in electric vehicles today but they didn't they didn't and so there was a need for Tesla because the you know at the time of starting Tesla there were no electric vehicles being made um and they were so the big car companies were not making electric vehicles there were no startups that we were aware of making electric vehicles so it's like well we should try and um I mean in the case of both Tesla and SpaceX I thought the chance of success was maybe 10 so I just felt like I thought it would be successful I thought it would fail hey good listen and now moving to the kids dream which is to become

an astronaut and not to build Rockets how you move from the idea that every child has I would be an astronaut too I would do reusable Rockets yeah um you forgot no I I'm trying to compress the story so that they're not too long um because the story is actually quite long because I didn't start out wanting to do the Rockets I at first I was going to do this um philanthropic Mission to Mars called Mars Oasis and then as I started investigating um the what it would take to launch this Mission to Mars just a little Greenhouse basically it was intended to inspire the public and I started understanding more about the what Rockets could be used I actually went to Russia a few times to try to buy some of their nuclear missiles um minus the nuclear minus the nuke

that's extra um so that was pretty wild being in Russia in 2001 negotiating to buy it two of their biggest missiles but but it became clear that the um and unless there was a something new with rockets they were that that was the fundamental issue the cost of access to space was the fundamental issue so it wasn't a it wasn't a question of trying to increase the Public's desire Public's desire for space and exploration is very high but there needs to be a means there needs to be a way um and uh there needs to be a radical Improvement in the cost of access to Auburn um so I was like okay well I'm gonna try starting a rocket company and see if it's successful but I like I said I I told people at the time because because the people would say to me just tell

me this joke of like what's the fast you know what what's the you know how do you go from sorry um sorry I'm getting a little hot under the collar here um I think a lot of people are um so they'll say what's the fastest way to make us a small fortune in the rocket industry in it and the punch line is you start with a large one so anyway it was it was a tough going for a while our first three launches failed fortunately the fourth one succeeded if the fourth one had not succeeded SpaceX would not exist so it was a very close call fast forward you created or you co-created open AI yes chat GPT has been incredibly success incredibly successful it's the the fastest growing ever story and after having created openly eyes suddenly you say oh we should have

a pose some people say oh it's because he has not done it well I mean I didn't think anyone would actually agree to the pose but I thought just for the for the record I just want to say I think we should pause I didn't think that uh that the why do you want to shoot pose well I think there's there's a real danger for digital super intelligence having negative consequences and so if we are not careful with creating artificial general intelligence we could have potentially a catastrophic outcome so now I think there's a range of possibilities I think the most likely outcome is positive for AI but it but that's not every possible outcome so we need to minimize the probability that something will go wrong with um digital super intelligence yes so I'm in favor

of AI regulation because I think Advanced AI is a risk to the public and anything that's risked to the public there needs to be some kind of referee that referee is the regulator and so I think that's that's my strong recommendation is to have some regulation for AI some regulation for AI yes which is what you want also for Twitter I'm not sure regulation I guess there's plenty of plenty of regulators sure So speaking about Twitter you you have made a big bet on Twitter you said it a few minutes ago that you paid too much yes yes and you are now going on to Twitter 2.

0 or 3.

0 uh which I understand it's a full-scale reinvention of the company uh yeah so evolving the company very rapidly yeah the company is changing quite dramatically there are a lot of controvers about Twitter so I have in fact three very quick question the first one is why have you decided to acquiring the second is what was wrong at Twitter to make you acting and the last one is not the last last of the three because there are many other questions is why do you believe that you will be successful and you will be well thanks um I can imagine I can't imagine that you will not be well thanks so well obviously I was on Twitter as a major user and even before the acquisition closed my my Twitter account was the most interacted with account in the world so my

I guess I'll be I'm pretty closely attuned to what's going on with Twitter you know I get a feel for how is it shifting one way or the other and uh generally I was concerned that Twitter was having a negative effect on civilization that it was having a corrosive effect on civil society and um and so that you know anything that undermines uh civilization I think is not good and you know go back to my point of like we need to do everything possible to support civilization and move it in a positive direction and um and I felt that it would that Twitter was kept moving more and more in a negative Direction and my hope and aspiration was to change that and have it be a positive force for civilization it is not perceived like this before are very happy to listen

to that approach but it the perception is very different well I think it depends on I mean I think if if somebody is a regular Twitter user I think they most people would say that their experience has improved um we've we've gotten rid of uh 90 of the Bots and the scams and and the various bad things that were happening um we've gotten rid of now at this point I think 95 of the child exploitation material that was on Twitter which was a shock to see the amount of that that was really terrible uh some of that had been going on for 10 years and no action so I think we've done a lot of good on that respect um and um and then I think you know we've also done things like we we have open sourced the algorithm so we're trying to be as transparent as possible

so Twitter is the only social media company where you can see the actual code of the algorithm so it's not like some secret Black Box um I mean the the the way to build trust is Equitable trust does not take my word for it it's let's let's show you exactly how it works and full transparency um and um and and we're also going to be showing like if your account is in any way affected by the Twitter system you could see it clearly um and uh just you know moving into I I think a good direction um we've I think the recommendation algorithm I don't want to go on too long for Twitter but I think it's I I think it's actually uh quite good and that those are on who are on the Twitter system I think generally think it's good um the you know we are seeing all-time

highs in usage so at least you know for the public out there they are using the system more um so we're seeing a pretty significant week over week growth in in usage um so the you know the public is speaking with their time and if they're putting their time on on Twitter that's a very good signal um so that's that's that's very positive um what would you say to advertisers who left Twitter to convince them to come back yeah actually I should say that um maybe with a few exceptions um almost all the advertisers have said that they've either come back or they said they will come back so actually I feel pretty pretty optimistic about the future um and um yeah so you know we're really at this point I believe actually I'm not aware of any Advertiser that is

uh either they've either come back or they said they'll come back I'm not aware of any exceptions they're probably a few exceptions but overall I think it's uh it's very positive good so we will have now a broader conversation we will ask Christianity demand from Orange the CEO of orange to join us as well as Antoine Arno from lvmh and as Mr Dubai from lawyer we have to move in order that there are chairs so come here [Applause] because why you know why they are arranging there is uh yes yes yes yes yes yes there is one question yeah that I would like to [Music] [Applause] take care so finally we are all together again so I had another question but I will save it for later and I will give the floor to Crystal Crystal the man who is the CEO of orange and

she is very much excited about putting some harsh difficult question to you let's go Twitter yeah [Music] there's also another side of it which is that there can be some disinformation fake news fake news what that's crazy you believe that wait how do I know this is real now the question is and actually I think there's a flip side you need to social networks and there's a Code of Conduct that the EU has proposed to this information okay tweet decided to Airport so is this because Twitter doesn't respect the fact that information needs to be moderated and actually you've been pretty vocal on the content moderation so just what are your thoughts on that well I'm generally a fan of that we should have a free speech as much as possible as much as is allowed

by the laws of any country so um you know I think that you know say for France we should um allow things that are allowed by law and if the people are want the laws to be different then pass a different law and will adhere to that law but but for Twitter to go beyond the law that you know that doesn't seem quite right to me I I think we want to allow the people to express themselves um and and really if you have to say when does Free Speech matter Free Speech matters and it's only relevant if if people are allowed to say things that you don't like because otherwise it's not free speech um and and I would I would take that if if somebody says something you know potentially offensive but that's that's actually okay now no we're not going to promote those

you know offensive uh tweets but uh but I think people should be able to say things because the alternative is censorship and then and frankly I think if you go down the censorship route it's only a matter of time before censorship is turned upon you so that's why it's important um you know for in the US you've got the First Amendment uh freedom of speech amendment and he said like why did they do that that's because why did they pass that Amendment it was because they were not able to say what they wanted to say in the countries that they came from and they wanted to make sure that they could say what they wanted to say so I believe in Freedom for the people uh to say things and that even if somebody said that it's actually in some ways a sign of Health

if people are able to if someone you don't like is able to say something you don't like rather than try to suppress that you say like you know what that's a good sign because that means I can say things and that person will not like what I say but I can still say it and that's a really big deal [Applause] especially in this country I mean freedom of speech that's something that's very I mean at the core of our values but now if we look at young people and being in the digital field and we provide Digital Services that people use there's also a move towards cyber bullying and harassment which I think we all it's also our role to educate young people on how to use the technology and make sure that because some behaviors I mean on Twitter or other social

networks can actually have devastating effects on on people uh is Twitter doing something about it or would you be willing to engage with other players actually at Orange we do a lot in that space sure I I mean that's true I think I think you know Twitter is for sure willing to engage with others um and like as I said the overarching goal is to have Twitter be a force a positive force for civilization and um you know so and and and if if you're on the platform and you're being harassed or bullied or whatever obviously that's a negative experience um so um so you know what we're doing is it's we call it sort of freedom of speech but not freedom of reach uh which is that if you yes you can say offensive things but then your content is going to get down

rated so if you're a jerk you your reach will drop so yeah I think that's the right thing [Music] um Antoine I don't know if you will be competing with the real to launch the future fragrance for Elon Musk and that the brand must so you have to compete very hard but maybe you I know that you had already the lunch but there is never the dessert so you can put your question all right first of all in the name of um thank you very much for being here yeah this group is the co-host of Viva Tech and it's uh it's great to have you and welcome so change of uh subject from Twitter at lvmh our oldest Maison is called claudulombre I saw you enjoyed good wine yeah um it's 650 years old wow Louis Vuitton was founded in 1854 our most ancient American Maison Tiffany

was founded in 1837.

the sum of the years of existence of all our Maison at lvmh is 8 393 years old wow Tesla is a teenager right yes yes 19 19 years old yeah and its market cap is already higher than lvmh [Laughter] yeah so so first question first question how much longer are you going to make us look so bad second question more serious do you feel the creation of value is more challenging in traditional or innovative business well first of all it's honor to be here and and speak with you so thanks for having me you know evaluations are are a strange thing because um you know sometimes I've said hey I think the stock price is too high at Tesla and then the stock price goes up I'm like okay so if you you tweet is it going up or down no the crazy thing I mean when I've created

I think the stock price is too high almost always it goes up so I don't know it's a strange thing so I I guess in the in the case of Tesla if the the the really the the value of the company is primarily uh on the basis of autonomy so uh in my opinion um because if you look at our total vehicle output it's um it'll be almost two million Vehicles this this year or something like that um but that's that's still only two percent of total vehicle production so then why is our market cap so high and it's because the potential for autonomy um is uh the the value of autonomy is so high um that even even if you have a discounted percentage probability of autonomy happening that is still incredibly valuable um so the average passenger car is used only about 10

hours a week so an average of about one and a half hours a day but if you have an autonomous Robo taxi the utilities might be 50 or 60 hours a week out of 168 hours so now you've got a vehicle that costs the same but has five times the utility so it's so gigantic a change that that's really I think uh the main driver of our value and although I've said this before I think we will solve autonomy soon thanks to the Tesla will be at this level of Market gun uh no I did not expect Tesla would be at this level because he's just extraordinary unfair by the way I mean I don't set the price so yeah you don't said maybe just another quick question um I tried mid-journey the other day yeah returning is amazing right and and I asked the software to make a Louis

Vuitton advertising campaign with only two words so here it's a bad question for you Maurice right if if you are if you want to put me out of a job that was my question do you feel this advertising production industry is going to be threatened by AI be careful not at all it's totally safe [Laughter] I mean AI is definitely going to be a massive disruptive Force I mean it AI is probably the the most disruptive technology ever um I mean the crazy thing is that you know the the advantage that humans have is that uh we're smarter than other creatures like if we got into a fight with the gorilla the gorilla would definitely win um but we're smart so but now for the first time there's going to be something that is smarter than the smartest human like way smarter

than smartest human and as you can see from a journey the art that AI can create is incredible it's so beautiful and it does it you know within seconds so we're at I mean right I think you know there's that sort of saying may you live in interesting times which I think is like not exactly a good thing sometimes but but we actually live I think we live in the most interesting of times um the Advent of AI and I actually thought to myself at one point like uh should you know do I would I really want to be alive at this point like let's say that there is some AI Armageddon um that happens some sort of AI apocalypse I think I would still be want to be alive at this time to see it and hopefully you know hopefully not not cause it but it's it's just a I think

we live in an extremely interesting time you know because the things that you see AI being able to do now it's going to do much more with each passing year cars will absolutely drive themselves better than any person could drive we'll have humanoid robots like so Tesla's developing a humanoid robot to call it the T800 it's a yeah some people get that joke [Laughter] it's a Terminator um so we can tweet that yeah um but if you like to say what isn't it what is an economy an economy is GDP per capita times Capital now what happens if you don't actually have a limit on Capital if you have an unlimited number of uh sort of people or robots it's not clear what meaning an economy has at that point because you have an unlimited economy effectively um so so like

on the good side of the plus side of AI is that I think we are heading for an age of abundance um where any goods and services that you want you can just have um so that's that's the that's the the positive side of of of AI future is an age of abundance from the advertising side they must say that we are using AIC it's many years and it is helping us a great deal and this is a tool that we are already using and I think it will be helping us to do even faster some very good ad it will be probably long time before they replace the creative minds uh asmita maybe you have an opinion on that and maybe you can asmita is the CDO of L'Oreal and she she knows a lot about digital so maybe you can tell us a little bit about advertising and Ai and put your question

to Elan so I'll pick up from advertising and from what you said before about Twitter so now we know that Twitter is expensive and we know that it aims to have free speech the question I have is about winning the advertiser's trust to be a preferred social media platform in the current context where the expected Revenue you know in 2023 is lower than 2022 you have brought in new leadership Linda so I wanted to know that how will we win that trust and will Linda have the time the support the freedom because she's an advertising expert so so will she be able to manage the situation and how yeah I I think I think Linda's great um so I think Linda's going to do uh amazing things for for Twitter and obviously understands where advertisers are coming from very

deeply understands the concerns that advertisers have and I think we'll do a great job in addressing those concerns um you know a key part is um you know let me say like if you're an Advertiser what content do you want to appear next to and depending upon what Advertiser you know the sensitivity of the brand if you're for example say Disney and you're advertising a children's movie then you want to have you know all ages content you know um and by the way Disney is one of our biggest advertisers so um so so it's really just making sure that the content adjacency matches uh what a brand is comfortable with and then there's some cases where the the content is like you know there's not going to be any advertising because nobody wants to advertise next to

it and that's going to be some of the more controversial stuff um yeah you know because we were talking about content you have just made the announcement that there will be ad Revenue sharing for creators yes yeah and that has a condition it will be done when they are verified Blue Tick creators and the advertising is to verify lootic users yes now if with that how how does that impact your focus on subscription revenues because to be Blue Tick uh you know there's a subscription versus advertising revenues Focus yeah so a big part of like when you say like say how many Impressions does something get uh you say like well were those Impressions real or not real you know was it uh you know a computer just what running a hundred thousand fake accounts because

that obviously doesn't count because the computer's not going to buy anything um so that's why our focus is on on verified users because we are admittedly conflating verification and subscription uh at Twitter so you could say like verified subscriber or something like that that's not it's not possible to game that so you know it's real you know it's solid and you know it's not a computer um so that's why it's that that's why we're focused on that um is to ensure the authenticity of the views and that it really uh that real people are seeing what's going on I mean the sheer amount of of Bot and scam and spam activity in social media is insane and we're talking about AI it's very obvious that especially with today's AI the computers can pass every like

are you a human test in fact I think they can pass all your human tests better than a human you know sort of you say like identify a traffic light or something like that okay let me tell you Tesla can identify a traffic life so if we're you know and but even like open source uh AI stuff right now um can pass all of the the human tests so you have to have something that there's better authentication than that yeah yeah I think that um confidence and trust is something which we lose fast and that we regain slowly I have no doubt personally that Twitter will gain back the trust provided that you do the right thing and I'm sure that you will do the right thing so it is something which is probably just a hiccup in the time but you need to do the right thing

and I'm sure that you you will do it I have two small questions one which is regarding Ukraine you have uh help enormously Ukraine yeah at the beginning with starlings and I think we owe you a lot because without access I said to internet and without access to communication the war would have been finished uh what is your take on that experience yeah that was a I mean that whole situation is very complex um no kidding yeah it's really really complex um as you point out starlink did play a pivotal role um because Russia had actually taken out all of the satellite Communications and all of the ground Communications except for starlink was the only one that was still operating um and and even today it is still the only one that is effective at the front

lines and uh stalling today is the backbone of the Ukrainian military Communications so you know I thought it was important to help out um and um but I but I do I do hope for some kind of resolution soon because I I think it's it's terribly sad that that's the flower of the Youth of Ukraine and Russia uh who don't want to be there um that they're dying in trenches right now and I I sure hope we can figure out some means to pee soon foreign is going back to this crowd you have a lot of startups you have a lot of young people who want to be successful what are the two or three pieces of advice that you would give them well you have a question over there yes uh do we have a microphone because Elon has accepted to take question from the floor Charlotte a

microphone is go you have the mic you go yes okay I don't know why you got the mic but please go um so I had a question about all of your different companies and projects in the past 10 years there's a pattern that I've seen to have identified short question and [Music] Mars it's really hard to make a big vacuum on Earth but on Mars it's a lot easier to say for Tesla electric cars obviously yeah yeah and I mean SpaceX is helpless um okay yeah give them my bike yeah yeah uh I mean Myanmar should get a room basically I I love Mars okay no no no no no now I want that you give the mic sorry guys uh I was there okay so what's the question what is the question my name is founder and CEO at click out we make AI tiny so Tesla is one of our Target I would love

to work with you Ellen and my husband is actually ex movie line who has very like the infrastructure and Emma locks okay okay sure oh [Applause] okay one last question guys whatever yeah okay however long you want to do it no no totally crazy yeah [Music] um space no psychology lab we are working on the mental health to help people to go to mass actually sure that's great the question is how do you think it's relevant well I think I think you'd want to have a very good mental health on a trip to Mars make sure everyone's saying because you don't want someone opening at the airlock in the middle of the night um so I think sanity is very important uh if you're going to Mars it's gonna be chaos uh can you hear me hey great t-shirt you talked about the European

regulation Inland and you know that there have been many amendments due to llm deployment do you think uh how can we integrate the use and actual use of this llm in a non-controlled way in the the current discussion uh can you make it a second no please it will answer the question it wasn't about safe safety in llms or sorry I didn't hear the whole question it's like a safe application of llms or or what is it the regulation uh at the European level was conceived when we did not talk about llx so what would you integrate in the current political education at the European level to integrate the the llm and okay and protect from the Jews okay sure okay when the regulation has been created llm didn't exist so what would be your suggestion regarding regulating

llms well I think more broadly um there should be um regulatory insight into llms and and really any other form of AI I mean there's I'm not sure I I don't think llms are the ultimate form of AI I mean there's sort of an inside joke on AI of like who do you think will be the the American president in 2032 uh diffusion uh or Transformers [Laughter] that's an inside joke but yeah it's like what does that mean um but that like might be a real it might be real um so yeah we really have the dresses here the two latest question one here and one in that region so go ahead cheat off [Music] I mean no if we don't listen to the question we will not be able to continue well every every year we have a primary which is 13 under 13.

my question is what business young people should focus on sure [Applause] thank you well I think generally I think it's important to focus on something so go ahead sorry uh I think um you want to focus on something that you are personally passionate about that you personally care about um it's very hard to be motivated for a product that you don't really feel strongly about and it doesn't have to be high tech it could be in any in any field it's just it's got to be a product that you feel is really needs to be that that and something that you personally love um and I would listen to your instincts on on you know do do you love this product or service um because it's kind of impossible to know what do other people love but if you love it that's a good

sign um and um and that that could be small to large any kind of any field it's it doesn't really have to be high tech but if if you don't love if you don't really love the product that you're making if you can't like a good test would be that you can't wait for this product to be on the market and if that's the case you're you're going in the right direction great uh the last question we have we have a friendly you see we wait no no you you another kid I know okay okay [Applause] he's asking foreign [Music] well um so neurolink is um first of all I want to assure everyone who may be worried about neuralink that um you will see uh your link is going to be a fairly slow process because anything that's done in humans it's very slow so sometimes people think

that this suddenly we're going to be chipping over one's head and then before they know it everyone's connected to the internet and then we're in trouble um with your brain um so it's going to happen very slowly hopefully later this year we'll do our first uh human device implantation and this will be for someone that has sort of tetraplegic quadriplegic does not have it has lost the connection from their their brain to their body and we think we should be able to that person will be able to communicate uh as fast as someone who has a fully functional body so that's going to be a big deal and we and we see a path beyond that to actually transfer the signals from the motor cortex of the brain to pass the injury in the spinal cord and actually enable someone's

body to be used again so um essentially shunting the signals past the broken point and and restore potentially full full body um use to someone that has completely lost the connection and I mean you can imagine like if say Stephen Hawking were alive today what a profound change that would be um and um so that's our first application and uh if uh it's looking like that the first case will be later this year so yeah fantastic no I would like a very very warm Rose of Applause to Elon Musk [Applause] okay thank you thank you thank you I just want to say you guys are great you guys are I mean it's it's so inspiring to see so much energy and so much positive energy uh in the room so uh this is very inspiring for the future