坎耶，所以那会、那绝对是在煽动我使用暴力，所以，呃，不管怎样，那可不酷。女士们先生们，埃隆·马斯克刚刚结束了1场时长2小时的Twitter Spaces讨论兼访谈，他在其中分享了自己对各种事情的想法和观点，话题超级劲爆，非常火辣，从大型科技公司与政府串通、审查制度、言论自由，到他对Twitter的真实意图、他的工作量，我是说，真的是你能想到的一切，包括许多极具争议、非常火辣的看法。对，在这个视频中，我剪掉了将近半小时，确切地说是超过27分钟的静默，只是想把它压缩一下。内容会非常跳跃，会有人打断，过程中也有一些音频问题，但我想我还是会把这个发出来

不加过滤地给你们看，女孩们可以花时间观看。YouTube让你可以用高于1倍的播放速度回放，所以我也许能为你们中的一些人节省一点时间。过程中不会添加任何评论，我只是想把这个放出来，因为我不确定人们之后能否重播这场Twitter Spaces。它实在太重要了，真的要从头到尾听完，你会学到很多。这里最棒的部分在于，尽管大家有点互相抢话，我就像媒体里的那些声音片段一样，这是一场深入而细致的讨论，其中包括埃隆购买Twitter的真实意图，以及他的一些扭转局面的计划。当然，如果你喜欢这个视频，并且想要大量更多内容，请前往

Patreon，通过角落里的卡片或置顶评论中的链接进入，你肯定不会失望。其实那是谎话，如果你是个玻璃心，很容易感觉受到冒犯，你大概不会失望，但你会生气，而且很可能几天内就会愤然退出。否则，Patreon见。欣赏节目吧。坎耶，所以那会、那绝对是在刺激我去购买，所以，呃，不管怎样，那可不酷，但你是以好的方式提到的。嗯，不，只是，像是，它只是让它变得像是对第二次世界大战之类事情的分析，你知道，呃，那是一部历史，那是一部历史剧或者别的什么，你知道，这是背景，就像，就像，好吧，你知道，就像让我们亲历一处战场之类的，而那很好，你知道，这个，这个，你知道，呃

某种，你知道，呃，战争史之类的东西，我不知道，你知道，类似那样，那那就没问题，但嗯，是的，它必须变成性方面的，我是说，如果他以一种试图号召人们接受反犹太观点的方式发布它，那是的，是的，我是说，这就像你也可以说，好吧，那我们就在 Twitter 之外寻找补充背景，来判断，来判断比如说，好吧，这个人是不是以一种友好的方式，而情况是，好吧，不是，他说他喜欢希特勒，呃，还有其他东西，而且你看看，到了连亚历克斯·琼斯都在叫坎耶冷静下来，并且，你知道，求你了，求你停下来这个地步，你就不得不说，好吧，你知道，亚历克斯·琼斯相当出格，所以，呃，亚历克斯·琼斯都说希望坎耶停下来，那那就是件大事，所以不管怎样，这个

呃，但我想进入某种巨大的，比如这很容易就会偏离成，你知道，一场费力的，老兄，是的，多谈谈那个文件吧，所以你提到你把它交给了一位非常明智的右翼人士，所以她有完整访问权限，这是否意味着我们将看到多篇揭露报道，而不只是，呃，一次，我们见到了泰比，是的，重点就是让一切都水落石出，所以问题是，比如，人们不一定会认同 Twitter 过去或未来所做的一切，但他们至少应该知道这些事情正在发生，而且没有任何他们不知道的可疑事情正在发生，这样至少，如果季度明确说明自己的行动并保持透明，你随后就可以着手进行适当校准

呃，你对自己在 Twitter 上了解到的内容的解读，嗯，而不是以为，你知道，Twitter 假装不偏不倚、公平公正。让所有人都认同 Twitter 将采取的所有行动的好办法，那是不可能的，呃，那里有一个，那是一个空集，呃，但可以做到的是完全透明。饶了我吧。哦，你回来了，他回来了，你刚才掉线了一会儿。是的，你能听到我吗？你们能听到我吗？不，还是有点断断续续。你能听到我吗？我马上要起飞了。是的，听得很好。是的，Verizon 广告。很快，我只想很快问你一个问题，如果有什么办法能把 Twitter 的努力与那些已经走到，你知道，提起宪法挑战这一步的人结合起来，有没有办法让

他们与马特取得联系，并把那里的努力结合起来？呃，有可能，我会联系马特，嗯，而且我提过，我也请了巴里·韦斯，你知道，也，呃，你知道，积极互动。我大概1小时前刚刚把 Twitter 文件的访问权限给了巴里·怀斯。你知道，我认为到某个时候，直接让它们公开可用或许是合理的，嗯，你知道，这样任何人都可以查看它们。一个很快的，一个很快的题外问题，他们什么都不在乎吗？我们的目标是，你知道，Twitter 过去做过的任何坏事都应该被揭露出来，从而，呃，建立人们对 Twitter 未来的信任。而我刚才可能有一会儿没声音的地方是，呃，要让一个页脚采取、只采取、采取那组能够让所有人满意的行动是不可能的，或者

很可能甚至有1900个人。好吧，但某种东西可以做到的是，对注意力以及它在做什么、它没有做什么、算法如何运作保持完全透明，而且如果一个账号被暂停，为什么被暂停；如果一个账号被降权，呃，就把它显示为一个单独的搜索品牌，呃，并且给出这样做的理由，嗯，从而让系统具有最大程度的透明度。嗯，所以即使你不同意 Twitter 上正在发生的事情，你至少也可以根据 Twitter 正在做什么来校准你在 Twitter 上了解到的东西，而不是、不是、不是、不是让 Twitter 声称自己公平公正，实际上却不是这样，至少从、从你的角度来看是如此。那么埃隆，你有没有计划将 Twitter

未来再次上市？所以顺便说一下，这是塔拉问的。詹姆斯·伍德，我已经给你发了邀请，真正的詹姆斯本来会给你发邀请，查看你的私信。呃，塔拉在问，你有没有计划让，嗯，Twitter 再次上市，我的问题，我也再给你一个问题，我的问题是，自从发布这些文件以来，你面临过什么类型的压力吗，如果有的话？你听到我了吗，埃隆？听起来他在亲自测试那辆新的 Semi 卡车。[笑声] 我把几个人移下去了，这样我们就可以，我们可以进行一场更，呃，文明的，你知道，对话，台上不要有太多发言者，因为我有几个重要问题想问你。呃，第1个是，你知道，显然，通过你完全透明的举措，你正在奠定基础

以，呃，证明为什么 Twitter 上的言论自由如此重要，以及你为什么正在做出这些决定，呃，你知道，比如对所有用户实行大赦，而且，你知道，通过、通过展示过去曾发生过滥用，并且 Twitter 在由你控制之前一直在滥用其权力，你基本上是在铺垫这样一种说法：好吧，所有人都应该拥有他们的、他们的权利，除非他们违反了法律，他们在 Twitter 上的权利都应得到恢复，对吗？呃，是的，我是说，是的，那那就是意图。嗯，现在要说清楚，我们将缓慢而审慎地做这类事情，这不能像是，呃，你知道，让我们同时打开所有监狱，然后，呃，伙计们，放手去干吧。所以，这会是，你知道，比人们希望的更慢，会更加审慎，嗯

我，我现在确实有很多[ __ ]事情要处理。所以我可以想象。不，我正在努力做最多的事情，让我的大脑尽可能地拼命运转，以完成最大量的工作，但仅仅这周，你知道，我们与一些国家安全，呃，斯塔林也失败了。是的，2个月而不是1个月，这是一个不错的时间表。而且我还得确保 Twitter 从财务角度来看，呃，是稳定的，不会亏损巨额资金然后破产，否则的话会有点，你知道，我这里要兼顾很多事情，至少可以这么说。嗯，但我认为随着时间推移，呃，也不会是很长的时间，通过反复迭代，我们可以让 Twitter 变得更广泛包容，在第3个方面，比如让尽可能多的人都能参与，嗯，并且想要参与

嗯，并且尽可能值得信任和透明，而成效会随着时间得到检验，而且我们显然不可能让所有人都满意，那是不可能的，因为，你知道，如果你说每个人的要求是什么，你会得到一个交集为0的维恩图。但、但能够做到的是最大程度的透明；能够做到的是，呃，当某些内容被降权或搜索屏蔽、当你的账号被分享屏蔽时明确说明，以及为什么那个账号被暂停，明确说明原因，以及这是暂时的，还是恢复账号的途径是什么。呃，而且，而且就是，我认为那是可以做到的事情，并且会极大地促进信任，而且，呃，除此之外，现在显然还存在一个挑战，那就是

Twitter 长期以来面临的，而且我认为这通常也是社交媒体的一个问题，那就是，它是需要编写大量软件的数字技术，而它们某种程度上出自硅谷，嗯，几乎最终出售硅谷，呃，除了洛杉矶的 Snappers，而洛杉矶在加利福尼亚，但、但实际上正在发生的是，嗯，把旧金山的道德框架输出到地球，这算是一件大事，而且有问题，因为以前，你知道，旧金山，呃，你知道，相当左倾，但它的影响会局限于旧金山，而现在它、它影响着全世界，因为信息集中在社交媒体公司手中，而那一点我认为并不好，它、它，呃，你知道，所以它是，我们需要

建立某种公平的东西，并且考虑广泛的观点，而且不会有一个朝向，呃，旧金山的极左派，呃，极、极左派的 Tilson 竞技场。嗯，我认为那里应该有一个位置留给，你知道，他们，他们也可以在 Twitter 上，但应该存在广泛的政治观点和情绪，而且，而且，呃，并且在合理可行的最大程度上以言论自由为目标。是的，而且，而且总体而言，我希望 Twitter 成为推动文明未来向善的强大力量。所以就是这样。你不，你能不能告诉我们你大概有多少时间，这样我们就能，呃，了解我们能问多少个问题？我不知道，大概也许半小时左右。不错。哦，那太棒了，那非常好。嘿，嗯，我还看到正在发生的是

问题是，主流媒体，嗯，曾参与掩盖这个，呃，亨特·拜登笔记本电脑的报道，因为我当时称它，而现在却把这称为，嗯，你知道，某种哑炮，他们认为这里没有足够的，呃，你知道，显然他们之所以那样行事，是因为他们自己现在也，呃，火烧身了，因为你曝光了他们做过的事情，嗯，你有什么话要对他们说？抱歉，你能再重复一遍问题吗？我在空中，所以这就像不，不是特别适合听众。你，你有什么话要对那些正试图淡化，呃，Twitter 文件，呃，所代表的意义的媒体说？问题，是的，呃，是的，所以他，他是在问你，你有什么话要对那些淡化，呃，Twitter

文件披露内容的媒体说，你知道，因为他们，他们基本上说这没什么大不了的，说这是一派胡言，你知道，这只是，这就是垃圾，说你这么做只是为了公关。你对他们有什么回应？是的，令人惊奇，与你的连接出现了问题，特别是伊恩，这里有些人我，是的，约翰能再问一次你的问题吗？首先，埃隆，你能听到我们吗？不，我觉得你听不到任何人。我不，我不知道是不是我的问题。所以他，他要么在一辆半挂卡车里，要么就在他的飞机上。他说，他说他在他的车道上。是的，外国的报道现在正试图淡化你的发布，嗯，显然是因为他们也正受到抨击，对吧，因为他们已经被这次，呃，被这次发布曝光了。你想对他们说什么？你想要

对那些正试图把这变成又一个汉堡的媒体说什么？嗯，他们试图把它变成又一个汉堡，是因为他们串通一气，撇下了美国公众，嗯，所以他们没有承认自己，他们对公众撒了谎，而是试图假装这是个什么都没有的汉堡。显然，那就是，那显然就是发生的事。是的，我是说，他们真可耻。是的，我同意这一点，然后这里另一件重要的事是，你基本上曝光了一个政党与，呃，在发布的一份文件里，甚至把它称为拜登团队联系 Twitter。我的意思是，那就是干预选举，不是吗？是的，我是说，我显然，如果，如果 Twitter 在选举之前做一件事，压制异议声音，嗯，在一场关键选举中，那

正是干预选举的定义，不然你他妈还会把它叫作什么？当然，这就像，是的，嗯，坦率地说，Twitter 当时表现得就像民主党全国委员会的一条臂膀，这很荒谬。嗯，而且你知道，你发布这些非常好，但 Twitter 不正只是冰山一角吗？我们现在难道不能，呃，承认这种事会发生，而且所有大型科技公司，你知道，都被用来扼杀言论自由和人们的感受，并试图，你知道，毁掉那些对其政治目标构成危险的报道。不，我是说，这种勾结太疯狂了，比如 Twitter 是唯一一家没有、没有，它已经不再勾结，也不再，呃，只是跟着那种 NPC 群体走的公司了。我不知道，你知道，我或许应该加强

我的安保之类的。绝对应该。我的意思是，这就是为什么我这么恨你。是的，稍，稍等一下，那本来会是我的下一个问题。伊曼，你个人有多担心？我是说，你押上了很多，对吧，你还有所有这些企业在运营，嗯，你知道，你在外面为言论自由打这场正义之战，但你心里肯定也担心对此会有什么反应。你感觉受到了威胁吗？你担心吗？比如你个人对此是什么感受？是的，我还要补充一个我也问过的问题，埃隆，比如到目前为止你面临过什么样的压力？也许它应该比我更担心，但我不知道，我认为总体来说，如果你确实由人民来书写，那么人民就会站在你这一边

嗯，如果你愿意，你可以来看，你能听到我吗？埃隆，在我把麦克风一起交还之前。是的。哦，很好，是的，他掉线了。你能不能听到我？直接退出，他听不到我。我会把麦克风交还给金。不，你听不到我。你能接过麦克风吗？是的，很快说一下沃伦参议员的回应，她说不应该由 1 个人，呃，由他掌控叙事。我的意思是，呃，你可以来瑞士，但，嗯，是的，我是说，显然并不是 1 个人控制着叙事，因为还有整个媒体部建制，他们全都像群体思维 NPC 一样说话，还有 Facebook，还有 Google，呃，还有 Tech talk，呃，不，真正的问题在于有 1 个人没有拖着那条线走，那才是真正的问题。所以那正是我们需要的回应，那是

你。是的，我是说，伊恩，你也能很快问他一个问题吗？一旦有 1 个人不服从路线，现在其他所有人就都看起来像，你知道，嗯，现在我们被允许了，埃隆，而问题就在这里，以前我们冒着被暂停账号或被平台封禁的风险，你正在允许，我是说，是的，完全可能的时间，比如竞争确实能让公司保持诚实，或者，或者它应该，难道不是以强制方式让公司保持诚实吗？所以，如果存在对真相的竞争，而 Twitter 赢得了对真相的竞争，那么它就会赢得读者和公众的关注，其他所有人也将被迫说真话。你认为你会不会面临这样的风险，比如欧盟委员会或其他任何这些大型政治机构会在

你做这件事时试图扳倒你？我不认为这是，但，但我也认为，就像这首歌，这是，这是人民的支持，那么你必须说，比如至少在美国，任何打算与所有人民对抗的组织，呃，我认为它们自己都会陷入大麻烦，你知道。呃，埃隆，你在历史上如此重要的时刻做这件事，因为，呃，我认为人们能感觉到审查正在变得更，呃，媒体让人越来越觉得是宣传，我们正走向一个不再真正容许言论自由的未来，而你凭借你的受众，呃，你知道，走出去，把这种透明度摆出来，我认为很多人对此心怀感激。这是一场，你知道，一场斗争，而你正在，你正在占据中心

舞台，呃，你知道，为了，呃，解决其中一些问题。不，我是说，坦率地说，[音乐] 在任何露天企业期间，呃，让我这么说吧，嗯，如果有人想杀我，并没有那么难，所以希望他们不会，而且，呃，命运微笑于没有安保，那不会发生，嗯，而且他们正在采取合理的比例，我想，但，但是，呃，这里肯定存在一些，一些风险，但我是说，归根结底，我认为我们只是想拥有一个未来，在那里，你知道，我们不会受到压迫，或者说我们的言论不会受到压制，而且，而且我们可以说自己想说的话，而不必害怕遭到报复，而且，嗯，你知道，只要，只要你不是，比如，真的在伤害别人，那么你就应该能够说自己想说的话，嗯，而且，呃，而且那就是

这是一件相当罕见的事，你知道，我、我觉得人们有时只是把它视为理所当然，但实际上纵观历史，言论自由一直极为罕见，所以我们必须非常努力地斗争，才能保住它，因为它是如此罕见，而且它绝不是什么默认存在的东西；默认的是受控言论，而不是自由言论。是的，这极其讽刺，媒体中如此多、如此多的记者和知名政治人物都在呼吁对冻结进行抽干，他们、他们……这太疯狂了，感觉我们身处颠倒世界。你认为这是源于如今学校教授新闻学的方式，也就是我们所说的后现代新闻学吗？还是你认为它真正来自哪里？我的意思是，我没上过、我没上过新闻学院。

但精英教育机构似乎一直是某种病毒，就是，你知道，比如到底有多少真正的知识自由，以及，是的，在精英教育机构里到底有多少英特尔、真正的知识自由，在那里，如果除非你遵从其他所有人的想法，否则就不会被彻底排斥；而其他所有人的想法就是别人告诉你该怎么想，而不是让你去问，你知道，你大概必须这样想，并不是说你可以按自己的意愿自由思考和交谈。是的，嗯，这件事的解决办法是什么？我的意思是，比如显然这是，而且、而且，嗯，并让真相成为，看吧，比任何事情都重要的东西。我的意思是，我觉得很有意思，你知道，哈佛的校训和哈佛的标准是 Veritas，而且……

而且哈佛的创办者们把它放在他们的领域上是对的——真理之盾。但如今的哈佛是真理之盾吗？也许不是。嗯，你知道，我们都，嗯，相信交易自由，而且显然 Jack 是比特币闪电网络的大拥趸，嗯，对于交易自由、比特币闪电网络、Twitter，以及任何我们可以、我们不能期待的东西，你能评论些什么？谢谢。嗯，你知道，我认为这实际上甚至比控制、比审查，也就是对货币体系的控制，还要更有力量。嗯，如果你控制了钱、货币体系，并控制了交易，你确实可以阻止某人去……你可以把人拖延到死，你知道，可以把他们赶出家门。所以我们必须非常谨慎，比如……

这里是谁在控制货币体系，以及他们会对交易施加什么、什么规则和监管。PayPal 似乎已经远远偏离了那条道路，比如他们……我一直在封禁，似乎正在朝社会信用和限制交易的方向发展，而且，呃，你知道，所以那令人担忧。所以，而且，比如我确实认为加密货币未来会发挥作用，这并不是在谈论任何某种特定的大型加密币，而是作为一种表明货币体系不会彻底腐化的手段。它本质上为 fiatric 体系提供了竞争。所以，如果法币体系变得，嗯，限制过度，那么加密货币就会增长。基本上，法币运行得越好，加密货币就越不突出，而且……

恐惧体系变得越糟糕，加密货币就会增长得越多。你是否担忧向央行数字货币迈进的这些举动？我不认为他们在谈论什么。[笑声] 不太担忧。嗯，很多人、很多人都推测，FTX 及其后续影响是一种推动我们走向那种中心化和数字美元球的手段，而它现在脸朝下摔倒了，对吧？嗯，是的，嗯，这个，我觉得他们在抱怨几件事。首先，所有钱都……几乎、几乎所有钱都已经是数字化的。法币货币体系实际上由一系列异构大型机组成，运行着，呃，过时的 Cobalt。顺便说一句，那才是真正的货币体系。这有点令人难堪，一些摇摇欲坠的大型机运行着古老的 Kobo。

嗯，还有运行，以及以批处理模式做所有事情，嗯，那才是真正的货币，法定货币，所以我已经……你能听见我吗，首先，现在能用了吗，还是不行，但它确实是数字化的，哦，[ __ ]，但并不是以一种很好的方式。至于银行是否会创造一些它们自己的加密货币，我认为人们会使用那些他们认为会随着时间推移而增值的加密货币，而不会使用那些不会飞上月球的。嘿，埃隆，你能不能，嗯，透露一下整个，呃，SPF 融资和 Twitter 募资的内幕？呃，其实没什么，没多少内幕可透露。我在 5 月和 SPF 谈过一次，大概半个小时，他说话快得不得了。呃，我觉得他显然服用了某种兴奋剂，而且，呃，他一直在谈论

他自己，呃，还有 FDX，这很奇怪，因为那通电话本来应该是讨论 Twitter 的。嗯，我当时就说，你知道，你是不是应该问我一些关于 Twitter 的问题，而不是一直谈论你自己？我当时得到的感觉是，我的 [ __ ] 探测器都快爆表了，所以我就觉得……但每个人都一直说，你知道，摩根士丹利和其他很多人都一直说，哦，SPF 是最棒的，而且他有大把的钱，所以我才同意和他谈。但后来我，就像我说的，他触发了我的 [ __ ] 探测器。不过坦率地说，我认为这并不需要多么深入的洞察。如果有人打电话给你，是要谈投资一笔大交易，他们应该询问有关这笔交易的问题，而不是谈论他们自己，而且，而且

而且说话快得像拍卖师，所以不需要多深的洞察力就能看出，投入程度很高，他最后并没有意外持有任何客户资金，是的，所以很遗憾，Mario 遇到了连接问题，所以你听不到他说话，Mario，我本来想说，我的私信是开放的，如果你想在那里转达给埃隆的评论或问题，我可以试着帮忙接下这些问题，而且 Alex 是曾被 Twitter 错误封禁的账号之一，幸好你把他恢复了，我想给他机会问你一个问题，因为他一直举着手，如果这样可以的话，好的，当然，嘿，嗯，我们听不到你，Alex，是的，静音中的变种人，只是为了让我们能听到 Alex，因为我觉得埃隆的背景噪声把 Alex 静音了，嘿

埃隆·马斯克米，所以，是的，我在告诉他，他找不到你，没关系，给我一秒钟，很快，嗯，埃隆，你说了一件，你知道，非常重要的事，那就是真相很重要，而且，呃，你知道，这确实就是这一切的意义，因为没有言论自由，我们就没有真相，我想问你，你对 Julian Assange 和 Edward Snowden 有什么看法，在涉及言论自由和真相时，那些人难道不应该处于中心舞台吗，你知道，缩短了美国政府让 Julian Assange 独处，并让他当记者，你知道，我，我对 Assange 的情况了解得不够，嗯，无法给出准确的回答，嗯，我的意思是，有些事情，你知道，呃，涉及国家安全方面的东西，你知道，我认为

你需要被保密吗，只因为，你知道，呃，你知道，有像核机密这样的东西，有些，你知道，如果坏人获得了那些信息，就可能做坏事，所以，是的，但是，当一名记者揭露战争罪行，对吧，当一个政府就这样去入侵一个国家，并且违反国际法杀人，你知道，当这样的揭露出现时，这难道不重要吗，这样人们就能看到战争的现实，并理解其中一些事情究竟有多糟糕，是的，我的意思是，我总体上认为，人们应该，比如说，这样人们应该能够知道正在发生什么，以便作出明智的决定，呃，我不是，我只是对伊斯兰的情况了解得不够，无法判断你是否

知道，应该受罚还是不受罚，呃，但我，我确实认为，我总体上支持信息自由，而且，而且就像，如果有任何疑问，我们应该倾向信息自由这一边，那么公平·斯诺登呢，他揭露了这些大规模监控项目，政府在监视每个人，并把他们的所有数据存储在这些巨大的间谍云中，这同样违反法律，你知道，五眼联盟在那里合作，破坏那个标识、当地法律以及他们当地对监视的限制，他们就互相监视，然后共享数据，这样他们就能知道每个人的一切，你对此有什么看法，也许最好的办法是由公众组成陪审团，你知道，如果，所以，如果 Snowden 要，我不知道

听着，我在这种情况下有权力，但归根结底，应该由美国人民来评判斯诺登，而不是，不是，你知道，政府里经过挑选的人。如果一个由同辈、由公民组成的陪审团来审查某些……并判断他是否有罪，我认为那可能会是恰当的行动方案。是的，唯一的问题是，如果他身处一个美……

S 法庭，他不会得到公正审判，因为，呃，根据《间谍法》的法律，你甚至不能以公共利益作为辩护理由，他甚至不能说，我那样做是因为让美国人知道这件事是正确的，所以那会是他无法使用的辩护理由，所以说，你知道，由你的同辈组成的陪审团应该为此感到兴奋，这就是问题所在，是的，我，我不知道，我的意思是，Snowden 伊斯兰的情况没有简单的答案，而且我，但是，是的，我能提个建议吗，埃隆，你为什么不向你的数百万用户发起一项投票，问问他们是否认为，鉴于 Julian Assange 和 Edward Snowden 为人类提供的服务，应该让他们得到安宁，好的，这是个好主意，当然，我喜欢这个主意，我要问一个问题

我很快替 Mario 问一下，因为他无法和埃隆说话，作为主持人，这肯定让人极其沮丧，他只是想知道，自从发布 Twitter 文件以来，你到目前为止是否承受过任何压力，嗯，我的意思是，我一直都承受着压力，所以这有点像，要看之前和之后压力的差值是多少，因为我，我没有，但我还没看到，我不知道，也许有压力，但我，我可能只是感觉不到，因为我只是，只是每天都是高压状况，但是，呃，我不知道，就像我说的，我们就是会，呃，把所有信息公开，试着重新开始，然后在未来迭代改进，向人们提供最真实、准确且及时的，呃，信息，那将是目标

Twitter 的，Twitter 的，而且我们在这方面不会做到完美，但我认为我们会迭代得越来越好，嗯，而且，而且如果，如果结果如此，如果我们成功做到这一点，那么我认为 Twitter 在竞争信息来源方面会比其他任何来源都更有效，然后会有越来越多的人使用 Twitter，嗯，而且，而且那种、然后那种竞争压力将迫使其他社交媒体公司，以及，以及其他媒体公司也变得更加诚实，因为否则他们就只会失去自己的读者群，而我认为这极其有力，也是很好的愿景，你或许能稍微谈谈吗，预计 Twitter 要为比如国土安全部总体上维持什么样的 API，特别是 FBI 也许会看到它，是否有一种预期的方式，让

政府可以接入社交媒体，而这是代表每一个大型媒体平台所预期的，而且那是否有些不同，我不知道该怎么准确表达，但左派对右派的问题因这样一个事实而变得复杂，即 Trump 是这场游戏的局外人，就像 Bernie 可能曾被视为这场游戏的局外人一样，而第二个问题是，这其中有多少与左派对右派无关，而是关于针对任何没有参与华盛顿特区内部所有默契协议的人【音乐】，嗯，你还能听到我们吗，埃隆，埃隆，你还在吗，我希望如此，不在了，他断开了，至少我这里显示已断开，哦，我会邀请他，我会再邀请他，好的，哦，他回来了，他回来了，很遗憾他没能听见你，伙计，那

只是，是的，请说，不，没关系，伙计，没关系，就像，你了解我，我会听着，我很乐意听着，你们至少能看到我吗，是的，Dara，谢谢你问这个问题，我真的，我确实对此非常好奇，呃，但我这里显示他仍然是发言者，有谁能看到他是发言者吗，我能看到他，他没在说话，啊，上次，上次他在这里时，Kim，你当时在，我想，Kim，你发了评论，然后他加入了，嗯，他，当我们让他做联合主持人时，还记得吗，Kim，我们让他做联合主持人，然后卡住了，某个人，是的，我想他现在已经掉线了，是的，我会给他，我会给他发邀请，有几个人，嗯，被踢下了台，嗯，甚至不是由你来的，只是他们自己，他们就只是走了，提醒你一下，Twitter 出了故障，在等埃隆时你怎么看，伙计们，伙计们，什么是

你们的看法，所以我会弄清楚埃隆说了什么，因为你提到了几件相当重大的事，他提到了自己的担忧，只是总结一下他说的话，对吧，我的意思是，他的主要目标显然是真相能公开，它重新拥有价值，而且 Twitter 需要为言论自由表明立场，而他现在正这样做，并且他意识到了自己和他的企业所面临的风险，所以他这么做是非常勇敢的，我想，你知道，任何曾对他收购 Twitter 时的意图抱有怀疑的人，我认为现在已经非常清楚，他所做的事情符合人民的利益，却未必符合他自己的最大利益，所以我觉得这令人惊叹，我为此赞赏他，是的，而在等待时，呃，在等待另一个的结尾

邀请，你们怎么看他的，嗯，我知道他当时，我不确定他是不是在开玩笑，但他病了，你知道，如果你负责他的、他的安保，就确保肮脏的恐惧，而且我想，我不认为他真的有什么需要担心的，我的意思是，我不认为现在真会有人对他下手，因为那样他们为什么要针对他就太明显了，所以我认为他很安全，而且他确实有安保，所以就我个人而言，我并不担心，不过与此同时，你知道，呃，他有安保是有原因的，对吧，他是世界首富，所以，嗯，还有这一点，但我并不真的，我不认为这会与其他任何一天有所不同，他现在披露的东西没有，你知道，对任何具体的人造成那么大的伤害

对，就像，呃，他差不多只是在给人们提供一个自由言论的平台，而受这件事影响最大的是记者，你知道，他们有什么可失去的？嗯，首先是他们的声誉，但他们已经把它扔掉了，所以我不认为这，你知道，我不认为他真的需要，呃，担心自己的人身安全。我不认为情况会那么严重。Elana，只是告诉你一声，埃隆现在正在听。嗯，我已经给你发了邀请，你应该能通过私信看到。嗯，所以我把上台的邀请发给你了，所以，呃，希望它能用。可能要花点时间，因为 Space 卡得太厉害了。对其他所有人、所有人来说也是。对，请说，Mario。你那边传来了一些回授声，我……

不确定你是否在后台播放着，呃，音频，但我能听到你两遍。我不知道其他人是否也遇到了这个问题。哦，我能听到他两遍。好吧，我会试着修好它。顺便说一下，各位，我现在就要发推文公布下一个 Space 的链接，你们可以为下一个 Space 设置提醒。我会修好我的音频。Kim，我感觉是你的。对，希望埃隆有机会的话能回来。我的意思是，首先，他从私人聊天中加入我们，你知道，参与进来，这是多么不可思议，因为这个 Space……这就是典型的埃隆，太酷了。我的意思是，这是一个历史性时刻，对吧？我的意思是，他是其中一部分。我的意思是，他、他就是其中的一部分。所以，我的意思是，谢谢你。他回来了，各位，只是通知一下，他回来了。埃隆，让我看看他这次能不能听见我。[音乐]

呃，对，你能听见我吗？能。对，我很高兴、我很高兴你能听见我。我很高兴你又能听见我了。嗯，所以我想 Kim，你刚才是在问一个问题。现在我只是在说，你从你的，呃，私人飞机上跟我们交谈有多酷，你知道，我们真的很感激。这就像一个典型的埃隆时刻，而我们全都对你心怀敬畏，你知道，你为了争取言论自由，呃，给你的企业和你自己承担了这些风险。所以我对所有那些在你收购 Twitter 时怀疑你意图的人说，呃，你正在把自己的意图表达得非常清楚，我认为你非常勇敢，我想为此感谢你。呃，不客气。我的意思是，就像我说的，你知道，日久见分晓。会犯很多错误，嗯，而且，呃……

但通过反复迭代，我认为这个、这个、这个净向量应该朝向真相。如果说新的 Twitter 在这方面取得成功，那么结果将是人们会转向 Twitter，去了解什么是真的、什么是真实的、哪些叙事重要。Twitter 将获得大量的，你知道，读者和关注，并且会给主流媒体和其他社交媒体公司施加很大的竞争压力，促使它们也更加诚实，嗯，因为否则它们、它们只会不断把人输给 Twitter，而、而这正是竞争可以成为一件非常、非常好的事情的地方。嗯，而且，但它不会完美，也会有一些，你知道，人们不同意的决定，但总的来说，整体决定是人们确实赞同……

的，他们会被 Twitter 吸引，Twitter 会取得成功，并从、从、从其他，呃，社交媒体那里获得份额，而且这会促使其他媒体来源随后，呃，不再拖着那条线，并且、并且、并且可以说更加诚实。埃隆，呃，只问一个简短的问题：在你看来，就公布这些文件所采取的措施而言，最大的风险是什么？你认为 Twitter 面临任何风险吗？嗯，我的意思是，我猜可能会有一些，对，我们会对某些诉讼之类的感到惊讶，你知道。对，我预料会存在一些法律风险。重要的是，那、那是最后一件事，与澄清事实，以及、以及、以及，呃，确保人们既，你知道，不知道……相比，这没那么令人担忧。

真正发生了什么，而且，呃，那、那、那些 Twitter 指标显示，这似乎显然是正确的决定，不仅从道德层面看如此，从、从商业角度看也是如此。呃，你不断创下新纪录。对，完全正确。所以就像我说的，这是、这是一个，随着事情变得清楚，而且、而且 Twitter 是真正弄清正在发生什么并获得未经筛选叙事的地方，不幸的真相也让 Twitter 上的人们能够、能够提出叙事并引导这个，你知道，并且、并且自己强调叙事，嗯，而不是让事情像所谓的主流媒体那样受到控制。在那里，你知道，叙事由少数编辑和主编控制。你知道，如果他们看到《华尔街日报》《纽约……

时报》和《华盛顿邮报》，也许还有其他几家，决定叙事是什么，所以即使他们说的完全真实，嗯，真正能够选择报道哪些话题的人……而在 Twitter 上，人们可以选择，并且、并且、并且，呃，你知道，比如世界上可能发生了某件非常重要的事，然后，呃，大型新闻机构却没有报道它，但在 Twitter 上，人们可以决定哪些叙事重要、应该强调什么，以及什么应该，你知道。对，所以、所以这很酷。我能很快提件事吗？我能很快提件事吗？我能听到你。好的，是你吗？我只想快速问一个问题。抱歉，Twitter 正在做的事，或者你正在做的事，你计划允许，呃，人们……

在 Twitter 上拥有更多发布自己报道的能力，因为你知道，现在我们只有推文，对吧？对。但是，呃，比如你对视频发布或文章发布有什么计划，呃，用来激励，你知道，创作者和记者、独立记者，让他们的声音能够被听到，而不只是街道？对，当然。我的意思是，这些全都像是非常明显的举措。人们需要能够泵送，显然，在 Twitter 上发布长篇内容。他们、当需要能够直接在 Twitter 上发布很长、很长的视频和很长的音频，而且还需要有将其变现的方式，这样创作者才能，你知道，维持生计。那些是……我、我感觉自己是在说，你知道，天空是蓝色的，草是绿色的，你……

知道，这些都是相当明显的事情，而为了实现这些事情，嗯，Twitter 需要有一个强大的软件工程组织，专注于交付生产级代码，嗯，而且，呃，你知道，之前相当混乱，而那个注册了的将拥有强大的工程能力，以便实现那些、那些基本功能。你知道，即使 Apple 有很多限制，嗯，那么他们可以把它发布到 Twitter 上，然后 Twitter 可以成为 YouTube 的有效竞争对手。嗯，然后就像我说的，当真相存在竞争，而且每个人，以及、以及一家公司偏离路线时，会发生什么，你知道，它实际上真的、真的不允许那个，你知道，真相蓬勃发展。它、它将给……施加很大的竞争压力。

其他组织也这样做。你能否谈谈，所谓预先驳斥错误信息的行动是否存在？这就是拿真实信息，然后如果它对某种叙事来说是在成像，就围绕它制造恐惧、不确定和怀疑。国土安全部、FBI、Cesar 或这些团体中的任何一个，是否试图告诉 Twitter，它必须保留一个端口，好让政府发来信息，说我们需要对这条信息进行预先驳斥？嗯，我的意思是，如果、如果美国政府提出任何不符合法律或可以通过法律途径抗争的请求，呃，Twitter 都会拒绝法律，而且它每周都是完整的，使它能够……但、但我们不能压制人民的声音。这不好。嗯，而且、而且……

就像我之前说的，就像是，你看看，看看，我，我读过很多历史，我热爱、热爱历史，也喜欢历史播客之类的东西，《Hardcore History》是最好的一个，Dan Colin 的《Hardcore History》太棒了，非常精彩，从蒙古开始，从蒙古人开始，对，但就像是，你纵观被记录下来的历史，就会发现我们只是，我们承受着这种压力，我们正处在这个珍贵的局面中，就像是，这是一种罕见的新局面，实际上，你知道，我是说，在一定界限内，确实存在言论自由，但这在历史上有记载，嗯，通常就像是由某个国王或随便什么人掌控，他们只是默认如此，而现在我们迎来了历史上这个罕见的时刻，人民的声音，嗯，大体上没有受到压制，但现在

有人正试图压制它，而我们只是为言论自由而进行非常艰难的抗争，我认为这对文明的未来至关重要。我完全同意你的看法，我是说，这就是你正在抗争的原因，对吧，这就是，你知道，你为了言论自由而抗争的原因，这样我们未来才能拥有它，因为如果我们无法掌控现在，我们就无法掌控未来，它将被别人掌控，被我们绝对不希望掌控任何事情的人掌控。对，没错，就在那里花同样多的时间，你知道，过去10年里有很多人失去了希望，因为，呃，政治上发生的事情，媒体上发生的事情，有太多挫败感了，而我认为你所做的最重要的事情

埃隆，你在这里采取的这些步骤，是让人们重新拥有希望。嗯，很好，我是说，我真的很高兴听到这番话，而且就像我说的，我会在这里尽我所能，嗯，你知道，我一路上肯定会犯一些错误，也不会做到完美，但之后我也会尽我所能纠正那些错误，并且，你知道，尽可能做到最少，因为正如我所说，石头今天很流行盒子，伙计，就像，对，我是说，看到你进行这场抗争，是一个非常让人吃下白色药丸的时刻，你知道，我是说，我们很多人一直都在为言论自由进行这场文化战争，基本上就是这样，而且你知道，我认为很多人都失去了希望，因为他们没看到有任何人在乎这件事，对吧，就像绝大多数人显然确实在乎，但他们只是不知道该

做什么，而且，对，Kim 说的是真的，只是呼应一下他说的话，谢谢你进行这场抗争，我是说，这非常、非常重要。这不只是你，不只是我，而是我们所有人。完全正确，对，我是说，我就像，我是说，我，我，我有点，你知道，对文明的未来感到担忧，呃，你知道，比如我们是不是正朝着一个好、好、好的方向前进。如果你研究历史，你会有点看到，就像文明的弧线、文明的弧线，兴起与衰落，你知道，苏美尔人、古埃及，在，在印度和中国，印度和中国内部都经历过许多某种程度上的文明兴衰，而这就像是，人们有时会想当然地认为，因为他们一直处于上升周期，未来事情就会不断变好，但事实并非如此，只是

自动变得更好，嗯，呃，它们实际上，所以文明往往会形成一道弧线，我们要确保我们，我们不会发现自己处在那道弧线的下坡段，你知道，好时代造就软弱的人，对吧，而我们现在正处在好时代，而且我们看到很多黑人男性，对吧，就像我们现在就在这道弧线的这个位置，而这很糟糕，所以让我们尽量不要重复同样的循环，我们需要对抗这个循环。是的，没错，没错，你知道，这里不是要变得像太，我是说太哲学化，但确实存在，确实存在一种，算是，你知道，我和很多人进行过这类讨论，而我感觉就像在想，生命的意义是什么，就像我们应该做什么，就像为什么要做任何事，你知道，嗯，而且，呃，你知道，对一些人来说，那

个答案是宗教性的，但如果你算不上非常虔诚，那么，那么答案究竟是什么？实际上，我对此的理论是，我，我算是相信道格拉斯·亚当斯的哲学：宇宙，就像，宇宙就是答案，而我们应该通过加深理解来努力，呃，以扩大意识的范围和规模，从而更好地理解该对这个作为答案的宇宙提出什么问题，你知道，这基本上是一种好奇心的宗教，呃，就像，让我们，让我们，呃，成长并进入未来，在未来扩展，扩展意识，扩展我们的理解，并且，嗯，并且，并且，呃，弄清楚那是怎么回事，还有数字42，而且还有，你知道，别慌，并且确保你带上毛巾。在不透露太多的情况下，真的

很快问一下，埃隆，有没有办法提前看一眼我们可以期待下一批，呃，Twitter 文件披露中出现什么？[音乐] 嗯，我算是把这件事交给马特·泰维和巴里·韦斯了，嗯，但是，嗯，我认为顺理成章的事情会是说，好吧，选举之后发生了什么，你知道，那些100台分裂的笔记本电脑之类的东西。顺便说一句，我其实不，我，我这么说可能听起来很奇怪，但，呃，说实话这还挺有趣的，嗯，我知道，是的，他是个艺术家，你知道吗？他看起来像是，他看起来像是知道怎么尽兴，分裂他。但是，所以，呃，如果，但除了，嗯，你知道，选举后发生什么、发生了什么之外，你知道，政府的影响有多大，你知道，出现了这一整套算是要创建一个虚假信息

部，这太疯狂了，嗯，而且乔治·奥威尔听到这些话都要在坟墓里翻身了，但，但是，就像，发生了什么，你知道，那是，你知道，我认为公众曾就像这种信息发出抗议。是的，启动了那个，他基本上让它戛然而止，因为在那之前，根本没人知道这竟然是个东西，对吧，而你把它揭露了，突然间所有人都在谈论它，他们不得不把它关掉，因为它非常奥威尔式，就像他们把《1984》当成使用说明书。没错，完全正确，没错，《1984》，《1984》本应是一个警告、缺口和一本使用说明书。是的，而那似乎就是他们正在做的，他们拿起每一部，你知道，反乌托邦小说，不管是 CSX，我喜欢那个游戏，然后，然后他们就像，是啊

这个世界看起来太棒了，那就狠狠压榨人们吧。这就像，不，我们别那么做。没错，完全正确。甚至说到，说到，呃，进步，你已经取得了那么多成就，你创办了100年来第一家成功的美国汽车公司，呃，你把支付带到了互联网上。有很多有抱负的，嗯，创业者和小企业主看着你的所作所为，并且算是试图，你知道，效仿那个例子，看看他们怎样也能创造一些那样的进步，而我想问你一点有关裁员的问题，因为，嗯，看起来在每天损失400万美元的情况下，仅仅算一算那10亿美元的利息支出，其中300万美元可能是新增的预期利息，而我自己

经营一家小企业时，曾经遇到过这样一种情况，你知道，如果不削减开支，企业几个月后就会倒闭，你知道，而，而我们发现，与员工沟通，给他们时间消化，获取他们的反馈，然后，你知道，建立一个共同愿景，并且让产品演变，让公司演变，让它迈向一个更远大的未来，真的非常成功。而这里看起来，从财务角度而言，典型的，像杠杆收购、KKR，呃，那套做法基本上被采用了。你知道，对一名小企业主来说，就像，你知道，那种做法是错的吗？就像，你有没有考虑过采用那种做法，嗯，你知道，那曾经被纳入考虑吗？是的，我很抱歉，就像，就像，不是，不是，不是，我没有完全听清

这些问题，嗯，但你知道，就 Twitter 而言，呃，你知道，这家公司，呃，基本上在大约2年里把员工人数增加到了3倍，略多于2年，但，但是收入持平甚至下降，所以那绝对不可能成为一种，呃，健康的状况。因此，Twitter 的当务之急就是，好吧，我们必须确保 Twitter 不会死掉，不会破产。这笔交易有相当多的债务，125亿美元的债务，嗯，而泰德在进行极其不明智的巨幅，呃，加息。我认为这些会成为美联储有史以来最愚蠢的一些决定，但不管怎样，所以死亡必须得到处理，而且，呃，是的，KKR 和其他私募股权公司，你知道，会做从敌意

收购，你知道，或者任何形式的收购，在那种收购中，他们，他们利用杠杆、利用债务，以高于当前价格的价格竞购，你知道，我多年来一直在关注这种事，而它总是导致大规模裁员。所以作为一个，顺便说一句，我不是说有任何人在乎那个，我认为那眼下并不重要，而我正想说，只要他们不断移动门槛、改变经济衰退的定义，我们就是我们所处的样子。回到这里的主题，你知道，我是说，我们有埃隆在这里，我们不需要谈论，你知道，他的投资和诸如此类的事情，嗯，伊朗，呃，我们应该向 Twitter Spaces 团队致意，因为你马上就要凭这个 Space 打破历史纪录了，我们现在快有100 000名听众了。是的，我们是的，伙计，说到

说到香料，你知道，接下来的策略是什么？太棒了。听着，我，我必须告诉你，Twitter 确实有一些很了不起的人，嗯，而且，呃，实际上还有一些很了不起的人在近几年确实离开了 Twitter，呃，我希望他们回来，嗯，呃，因为我认为这里有潜力打造出一些非常了不起的东西。所以，你知道，我不想只是，我想对 Twitter 上正在完成的一些出色工作作出恰如其分的赞扬，嗯，所以，你知道，这有点，你知道，这有点像，我是说，Twitter 有很多地方值得批评，也可以说，好吧，我们确实在以一些负面的方式浪费钱，但也有人真正关心 Twitter 的真相，嗯，而我正在尽最大努力提升他们的能力

还有，嗯，给他们所需的一切资源。我对“社区注释”非常兴奋，呃，这项功能，你知道，是由 Keith Coleman 负责的，而且有一些真正一流的工程师正在为那个产品编写代码，我认为它在对抗——真正对抗虚假信息方面会非常强大。不，不，好吧，请注意，如果我们没有加入“社区注释”，对吧，比如现在，呃，世界其他地区也没有，对吧，据我所知，只有美国，我想还有加拿大，但是，呃，你们至少能让其他人也看到它吗？这样即使我们无法参与贡献，至少也能查看，因为，是的，我感觉自己有点被排除在外。我在——我在马来西亚，所以，你知道，确实有点难看到它。

是的，其实我，我其实，我，我问过这件事。我给 Keith Holmes 发了一条消息，说，嘿，我们是不是至少应该让所有地方都能看到它，嗯，然后他说我们需要当面谈谈这件事，但我不确定是什么。好吧，ELO，我们确实，我们确实想说，在 Twitter Spaces 上，嗯，在 SPF 和 FTX 以及加密货币领域其他所有公司爆雷期间，显然许多人遭受了巨大的财务损失，嗯，但 Twitter Spaces 实际上成了把社区凝聚在一起的地方，而我们一直——我们一直在那里分享许多故事。有些人因为财务损失而想自杀，而因为这个社区和 Twitter Spaces，嗯，他们阻止了这些人结束自己的生命。有很多，而且再补充一点，Elon，上次——

如果你还记得，你加入了讨论 Sam 的那个空间，那个空间最终持续了 16 小时，而在 3、4 天里，媒体都待在我们的空间里，从这个空间获取新闻，连续 4 天、5 天，然后日复一日地据此撰写报道。我想 Simon 当时在，Kim 也在，所以那是一个——我认为这是 Twitter Spaces 上第一次发生规模达到这种程度的情况，而且我们今天可能还会再来一次。是的，而你正在促成的这种公民新闻，呃，非常强大，你知道，因为现在我们就是新闻。如果人们想了解真相，他们就会去 Twitter，加入这些空间，你知道，这就像有专家参与的实时——呃，太棒了。然后还有像你这样的人加入，并分享你们的观点——

和想法，还有什么比这更强大？传统媒体可以收拾东西走人了，而且他们的游戏结束了。你会考虑在空间里举行 Tesla 财报会议吗？我就在这里，在 Twitter 上直播。[音乐] 嗯，哦，天哪，我得说，Tesla 作为一家上市公司，这简直为所有——为美国的律师事务所，尤其是这些集体诉讼律所，创造了一个巨大的攻击面。那——是的，那似乎是个坏主意。我参加过——我参加过其他 CEO 举办的空间，呃，他们直接在 Twitter 上直播财报会议，我觉得——我很乐意这么做。是的，所以你已经——你已经，Elon，你刚刚做出了 2 个承诺，你做出了 2 个承诺，伙计。现在你做了这个承诺，你还向 Kim 承诺了那个——我退出了。

我退出了。你就投票的事向 Kim 做了承诺，现在你又承诺在这里的空间里拿着，呃，Tesla 的，呃，计量器，所以我之后也会提醒你这件事。是的，所以我一直收到很多人的问题，他们不停地轰炸我，就是为了让我问你，对吧，因为你知道，我们在这个空间里。他们在问，你打算如何处理影子封禁的情况？因为比如我个人被搜索封禁了。我没有被影子封禁，但我被搜索封禁了，而且我甚至不确定这是怎么回事。是的，我是说，但正如我所说，我才上任大概 1 个月，各位，所以，呃，只是——我肯定还有一长串事情要做。嗯，一般来说，嗯，我们需要，比如说，让你的账户真的可以直接告诉你，你被搜索封禁了，或者——

你被降低推荐权重了，或者不管那叫什么，以及为什么，还有修复这个问题的流程是什么，嗯，现在，现在我应该告诉你，最好的一周是，我们可能有点过于激进了，而如果要说这是谁的错，那是我的错，因为我们，我只是想清除那些该死的，呃，诈骗、垃圾信息、机器人之类的东西，嗯，所以在试图杜绝或减少那些机器人、砰、诈骗之类的东西时，呃，会出现一些误判，呃，所以，呃，这只是周，但，呃，需要采取，我知道那就像是，这将是一段以迭代方式走向、走向真相以及一个更健康系统的旅程，在任何一个时点它都会是坏的，但它会尽可能快地向一个好的状态迈进，而且我鼓励人们，你知道，对此抱怨之类的，呃

但是，呃，它只是，它会，它会很早以迭代方式朝一个好的状态迈进，这就是目标，而且再说一次，它们移动得相当快，所以总体而言，这个向量，其中一些可以说，嗯，随着时间推移，我听不到他了，对，我让他查看我的，查看我的私信，Kim，查看我的私信，因为我这里出了故障，所以有几件事我可能需要你帮忙，嘿，Long，对，对，哦，你回来了，另一个，另一个问题，我想你曾经提到过一次微信，嗯，我想那是很久以前的事了，我不太记得准确了，这个说法今天仍然成立吗，这是对 Twitter 的一个潜在愿景吗？对，我就说说 Twitter 应该具备的一项功能，嗯，Twitter 拥有支付功能算是理所当然的，呃，法定货币和加密货币都包括，而且要让它

那样，而且让人们能简单使用，呃，正如之前谈到的，增加，呃，发布长篇文字内容和视频内容的能力，并且能够轻松地将其变现，还有，嗯，还有一个播放列表，你知道，就像 YouTube 那样，对，嗯，我在第 1 个月的重点，而且 12 月也会如此，就是，就是确保 Twit，确保 Twitter 作为一家公司高效运营，确保，嗯，它没有，没有浪费钱，嗯，因为它，它在收入方面面临挑战，你知道，这是因为它过度依赖广告，而且那些广告并没有定向，呃，比如品牌广告，并且，并且，在整个广告收入都在下降的市场中，嗯，而且当你开始质疑现状时，那么，你知道，各种压力团体

开始向广告商施压，让他们不要在你这里投放广告，所以这在收入方面又是一个，你知道，挑战，然后你还有债务，而且，而且债务现在的利率非常高，所以这就像是同时面临很多挑战，嗯，我认为我们会，你知道，我们会解决这些挑战，但需要解决的事情有很多，所以首要任务就是让 Twitter 恢复健康，嗯，确保它的支出合理，嗯，那个，嗯，你知道，Twitter，Twitter 就像主要是一家软件公司，显然也有设计元素，但它主要是软件和服务器，所以比如说，软件团队的组织是否合理，那些提交代码的人是否在提交好的代码，以及就是让工程引擎运转起来

在 Twitter，因为如果你看看，比如说，Twitter 随着时间推移的演进、技术演进是什么，排除收购的话，它一直非常少，Twitter 的技术发展一直非常缓慢，而且有一个编辑按钮，对，没错，编辑按钮，听着，我的意思是，如果做一个编辑按钮要花 1 年，而这个编辑按钮仍然不能正常工作，那么你可以有 100 万个好主意，但它们都无关紧要，因为你无法实施。那么埃隆，呃，我有一个简短的问题要问你，我的朋友，嗯，我被从这个里面移除了，好，我想测试一下我的麦克风，你们能听到我吗，嗯，我能听到你，嗯，可能，你能听到我吗，Alex，我们能，我们能听到，嗯，对，各位，好，Alex 想先说然后我再说吗，你能听到我吗，对，好，所以我的问题是，如果这些文件，那些

也会包括其他内容、其他，所以基本上所有那些页面，呃，对，这里的音频有点像一场[ __ ]秀，我们试着让它重回正轨，我把所有人都取消静音了，又把所有人都静音了，我要把那些没在说话的人取消静音，呃，请把自己静音，我想快速问埃隆一个问题，再试一次，我想 Alex 刚才已经问了，他正准备回答，他现在只需要取消自己的静音来回答 Alex，对，我只是想知道，所有那些被民主党全国委员会和拜登竞选团队要求删除内容的账户，即便是与亨特·拜登笔记本电脑毫无关系的账户，是否也会被公布，嗯，会的，嗯，本来就打算公布，呃，所有文件，嗯，所以并不是说有什么被隐藏了或

什么都……我听不到任何人说话，嘿，掉线了。我的麦克风正常吗，Kim？顺便问一下，我是……我的迈克还好吗，Alex？我是说，我觉得这，你知道，这就像是什么辛辣文件，或者你们的真相与和解，就像纳尔逊·曼德拉会说的，你知道，如果你想要和解，就必须有真相。那就是这里的意图，意图只是讲清楚当时发生了什么，并对过去保持透明，以此建立对未来的信任。太棒了，那么你认为 Twitter 是否也可以，比如自动发出一条，嗯，通知，如果任何人的……比如他们的账户被要求……内容被下架？你觉得能有这样的东西吗？是的，就像 VPN 网站实际上会提供那种外国的[音乐]内容下架请求。

那些令人难堪的内容，那么他们就不太可能提出那些内容下架请求，嗯，你知道，归根结底，它别无选择，只能遵守美国以及它运营所在的任何国家的法律，呃，否则你就会被逮捕。嗯，我们不应该做得比遵守法律更多，因为你必须这么做。嗯，而且，呃，你知道，也许可能有机会说，好吧，如果我们不同意这项法律，也许我们可以博比一下，让它稍微改一改之类的。但是，嗯，那么埃隆，我想就这一点问你，嗯，请讲，抱歉。不，我只是想说，总体目标是，嗯，总体而言，让 Twitter 成为一股有益于人类文明未来的力量，嗯，并且有益于……扩展……

意识。所以就这一点而言，我想问你，因为我是从欧洲视角出发，嗯，你怎么看欧盟关于潜在限制的提案，嗯，或者同样，嗯，我知道你本周早些时候和 Alex finman 之间有过一点，呃，我们可以称之为喧闹场面。我在想，你是否有兴趣和他一起开一场 Space，因为我认识他，呃，一周前我们聊过。我也邀请你，如果你有兴趣的话，如果你有兴趣。别把时间浪费在情报界身上，说真的。是的，我是在逗你，但我确实很好奇你对欧盟视角的看法。嗯，是的，实际上，欧盟的很多规定要求的都是我认同的东西，呃，透明度，以及……一种能力……

让人们、让用户可以申诉，呃，并且有一个清晰的流程。所以我认为，我，你知道，就《数字服务法》而言，我觉得，我觉得它，呃，总体上是好的。我认为我们必须关注它的实施，并确保其实施不会，呃，不会，嗯，你知道，对欧洲人民不利。但实际的，嗯，你知道，我认为其中的大部分内容我都认同，你知道，因为它关乎透明度和问责，呃，看起来相当合理。嗯，我们只需要确保它不会被扭曲到糟糕的方向，但，呃，总体而言，我，你知道，我认同它，嗯，至少就我今天对它的了解而言。嗯，允许政府定义什么是错误信息或虚假信息，对吧？我是说，那可能是最危险的……如果这种发展把……赋予……

政府那种权力，让它们成为决定什么是真相、什么不是真相的人。是的，不，那，那确实是件大事。我同意，那是，那是，这触及了局势的核心。你不会希望由政府来做这件事，尤其是，那甚至可能不是，算是……可能不是民选官员，也许只是某个部里一名可能处于中层的主管，而人们甚至不知道这个部门存在，此人也从未当选，呃，尽管身处一个民主国家。那么，那些抗议者呢？嗯，你认为 Twitter 在帮助支持伊朗、乌克兰、中国以及其他正面临，你知道，呃，技术压迫和言论自由获取受限的国家方面，能够发挥什么作用？嗯，呃，我是说，是的，就像我说的，我们会……

在法律允许的范围内做一切可能的事情。你知道，我有一个有点私人的问题，而且我一直很好奇，你知道，是否有某个临界点让你决定，你想收购 Twitter？这是个好问题。嗯，我本来希望你会说是儿童剥削问题，因为你在过去1个月里为清除它所做的，比他们过去10年在 Twitter 上做的还多。我想为此感谢你，而且很遗憾，媒体完全冷落了你，没有提到你们为了实现这一点付出了远超常规的努力。还有 Eliza blue，感谢你在这方面的工作和努力。是的，我想说感谢 Eliza blue。我也想感谢 Andrea。我认为我们实际上在这方面有过……这其实是一个非常好的案例……

关于，关于，你知道，众包，让 Twitter 上的人实际帮助我们解决儿童剥削问题。这实际上，这确实是真的。嗯，是的，Twitter 上个月为制止儿童剥削所做的，比之前可能10年所做的还多。这太疯狂了，坦率地说，这有点让我震惊。我们会继续这么做，而且这永远都会是头等大事。我是说，这就像……孩子们无法保护自己，所以我们必须……Mario，我们听不到你。不是，你，你现在听起来像只蚊子。老实说，现在听起来像是他在厕所里。埃隆，你还打算发布那个 W 吗？每个人都在问。嗯，我，我是说，从技术上讲，投票结果确实是赞成的，嗯，所以人民已经发声了。我知道，所以人民还没有在那里发声，但我的问题主要是，比如我不……

觉得你回答了那个问题，比如，呃，我想知道，究竟是什么临界点。我觉得很多人都想知道这个问题，比如，是什么临界点让你想要收购 Twitter？好吧，首先，我想，我，我，如果 Twitter 当时已经……如果我能够更早收购 Twitter，那我也许确实早就这么做了。你知道，当时的情况是，我的流动资金足够，而 Twitter 的价值是，你知道，随着……无论……你知道，基本上有一个收盘价，比如，我实际上会有那个吗？直到最近都不是这样。嗯，但我，我想，这种感觉确实已经积累一段时间了，所以我不会说有某种，比如，不是突然发生的阶跃变化，不是某一件事。并不是说，哦，The Babylon B 被封禁了。

这就是我收购Twitter的原因，那会很疯狂，更主要的是，他们，他们看起来就是媒体之间越来越存在这种群体思维，嗯，数字社交媒体公司之间也越来越，呃，像是在遵循统一路线，基本上就是，我们正在越来越深入地走上一条压制言论自由的道路，嗯，而这开始让我担忧，就像这些趋势真的非常非常糟糕，嗯，所以，除非采取某些行动来扭转这种反对言论自由的趋势，否则我觉得，嗯，也许你知道，到某个时候，一切都会直接被切断，而除非你赞同那种群体思维，无论它是什么，否则你就会被排斥，或者你的声音会被关闭，所以就像我说的，并不是因为某一件事，只是，只是像，好吧，而我可以，我

没法确切说出原因，因为这就像那种事情，它可能，就只是我的生物神经网络，呃，你知道，认为收购 Twitter 很重要，而如果你，你知道，被困在一个数字神经网络里，你也无法真正准确解释为什么神经网络能够理解或文本，或者只能说，神经网络的综合结果表明这是一项重要的行动，呃，或者说这是正确的行动，而我的生物神经网络得出的结论是，收购 Twitter 很重要，而且，如果 Twitter 没有被收购并被引向一个好的方向，它就会对文明的未来构成危险，所以这就是我，这就是我收购它的原因，这太精彩了，美国人，你提到了生物神经网络和数字

神经网络，什么时候那个 Neuralink 能准备好把我们的意识复制到账户里，请吧，随便怎样，我能去哪里报名，因为我很想增强我的、我的大脑，你知道，这就像赛博朋克。对，没错，到这个时候就完全走赛博朋克路线了。呃，对，嗯，另一方面，关于那个、那个，嗯，我肯定你熟悉《神秘博士》，对吧，还有赛博人，以及这样一种集中式系统的想法，通过它你可以影响人们的思想——如果你明白我的意思，这难道不是你关注范围内的一个考量吗？嗯，我是说，坦率地说，在、在这个神经、神经……Neuralink 方面，如果我看看人工智能改进的速度，相对于 Neuralink 进展的速度，人工智能

的发展要比 Neuralink 快得多，因为只要有任何事情涉及人类，进展就会变得非常缓慢，因为这会给人类带来危险。我的意思是，在接下来的几年里，Neuralink 实际上只专注于为颈部或脊柱受损的人储存动作，以及恢复视力。所以，是恢复运动能力和视力，不是，呃，你知道，上传记忆、控制思想或任何类似的事情，而是相当基础的东西，就像计算机的早期阶段，你知道，基本上就是这样。但这会改变人生，对吧？我的意思是，如果你生来失明，却能够看见，那是……这是一份我认为，你知道，任何人都不会拒绝的礼物，那会非常了不起。对，而且那、那是非常可行的。你明白我说的 Neuralink

吧，你将能够看到你的链接在做的任何事情，你将能够看到它从非常遥远的地方到来，就像、就像，因为你必须完成整个 FDA 医疗器械审批流程，而那要花很久来评估对人类的安全性，那需要很长时间。所以，与数字超级智能的发展相比，它基本上非常缓慢，后者非常快，很长时间以来，我们都希望在数字超级智能的发展上更加谨慎。你知道，这对公众构成危险，而正如我们有其他监管机构，呃，监督危及公众的事物，比如 FDA 或 FAA，或者，你知道，许多机构中的任何一个，FCC；如果有，你知道，你必须……你不能任由公司疯狂地开发数字超级智能

却不受监督。你认为这种情况有可能发生在一个不存在监督的国家吗？你知道，那里的政府允许那些，你知道，科学家去做、去像你说的那样疯狂行事。嗯，[音乐] 你看，我们……有些事情我们能控制，有些事情我们无法控制，而我认为，应该存在某种监督，嗯，你知道，在北美和欧洲，许多 AI 创新都发生在那里，应该存在某种监督，而不是像目前这样什么都没有。我们距离，呃，通用人工智能还有多远？比如你认为要多久我们才会迎来那个重大的、重大的东西？我的意思是，我认为它、它正在非常迅速地发生。你看，比如 AGI 的定义就是在……数字超级智能比

最聪明的人类更聪明，但你对 AGI 的定义是什么？对，没错。我的意思是，一旦、一旦 AI 基本上能够自己编程，并且理解如何，呃，如何推进自身，那就是我们需要开始担忧的水平，对吧？对。嗯，我们……对，嗯，我是说，这个又怎么样，你知道，去年疫情之后，我们经历了大辞职潮，而现在有人担忧传统劳动岗位会被，你知道，AI 和机器技术取代。我想那是你，呃，你知道，我看过那个视频，深入它用意念控制事物的能力，这难道不会让人担忧它可能对，呃，你知道，那些非常低技能的工作产生影响吗？那些人未必拥有能够那么迅速接受再培训的技能或能力

只是，你知道，我们怎样才能，呃，提前规划，把后果降到最低？抱歉，音频、音频现在就像不、不太好，所以，嗯。哦，不，更糟了。我们将来可以再开一次 Space 来讨论 AI，因为我认为这是重大话题之一，呃，你知道，很多人其实没有意识到 AI、AI 的风险有多大，而你一直在，呃，呼吁的是，你知道，进行更多监管、制定更好的规则，以防止最糟糕的情况发生，也就是一个 AGI 接管一切，基本上消灭，比如一名艺术家和工作中的一名艺术家。你知道，我是说，Midjourney 基本上已经取代了图书封面平面艺术家，你知道，你不再需要图书艺术家了，直接用 AI 就能做。不是要把话题转回 Twitter

文件，但 Kim，我只想快速问埃隆一个有关第 230 条的问题。你现在担心它吗？鉴于你正在 Twitter 创造的扁平化，以及你以客观方式发布的所有真相，政府最终可能会对第 230 条做些什么？嗯，我、我认为它是……我说过，我刚才说过要在 Twitter 上公开说这件事，众议院将由共和党掌控是件好事。你知道，这就像……这不是……如果美。

国，如果、如果众议院、参议院和行政部门都属于同一个党，那么、那么你就会陷入某种局面。所以，让，呃，至少其中一个分支属于另一个党是件好事，嗯，因为这样他们就会、那么、那么他们会制衡两党的最过度行为。所以我认为，嗯，你知道，我认为众议院将由共和党掌控是件好事。你知道，而这就是……人们会把它解读成，比如，哦，我肯定是什么狂热的共和党人之类的。不是，我其实是个狂热的温和派，这才是我的立场。这就像，我希望人们会好奇地保持温和，呃，但我建议，保持温和这种性质并不、它并不适合……你知道，你不能……这就像狂热地保持温和，但、但狂热主义……我想有些 YouTuber 喜欢这么说，对吧，做一个激进的

中间派。对，嗯，所以、所以这就像、像是你希望政府通过那些对人民最有……的法律，而不是那些……那些有兴趣的、那些符合一小部分人利益的法律。而且，呃，你知道，所以我才认为，如果你，比如，让多个政党共同掌权，那么、那么、那么他们只会通过那些大致属于两党共识交集的东西，这更有可能符合人民的利益。所以、所以我想，我对那个第 230 条的事情感觉相当放心。对，埃隆，嗯，你能不能快点……各位，你们现在能、能听见我吗？我知道。对，我刚刚、我刚刚、我刚刚……对，我刚刚让、我让一些很棒的发言者上来了，因为现在对我来说它不再出故障了，所以我刚刚

也欢迎 Clayton，呃，Patrick Davis 上台，还有更多大家都会认识的发言者即将上来。现在我的 Space 恢复了，所以各位，呃，请随意加入，向埃隆提任何问题。嘿，谢谢，非常感谢。如果你想重新尝试把联合主持人给 Mario 的操作。对，请说，Clay，然后是 Patrick，没错。嘿，谢谢，埃隆，我是 Redacted 的 Clayton。嗯，过去几个月里，我们节目一直在报道的新闻之一是 Shiva 博士的诉讼，呃，他在竞选马萨诸塞州参议员时被 Twitter 封禁，而他的诉讼中披露的事情之一，是政府通往 Facebook 和 Twitter 后台的门户，也就是那个“可信 Twitter 合作伙伴关系”，嗯，而且我知道 Twitter 的博客上写着，那个可信的

Twitter 合作伙伴关系存在于 Twitter 与某个拥有政府电子邮件信息的人之间，基本上能让一个镇的乐队被下架。那个门户、那个可信合作伙伴关系现在仍然向政府开放吗？考虑到你在 Twitter 文件中公布的内容，让它继续存在还有道理吗？嗯，我得深入调查一下这个，呃，事情。你知道，显然这有点老大哥的感觉。我们会遵守低……嗯，但不会做，你知道，不会超越法律，呃，而且、而且如果有些法律看起来……看起来不符合人民的利益，那么 Toyota 会提出质疑。但我会深入调查一下这个可信合作伙伴关系的事情，看看发生了什么。嗯，我确实做那些被拒绝的事，我爱你和你的妻子，你们做得非常棒，所以继续

做下去。Eric，你有……Eric Sebastian，你有问题吗？对，是的，也许是对上一个问题的追问。埃隆，在 Twitter、在你发现的那些事情的过道里，你有没有发现 Facebook 与任何其他……TikTok，任何人之间存在关系，涉及可能被视为，你知道，与某些，嗯，政党的勾结？那是、那是另一个……其他社交媒体团体与 Twitter 之间有没有任何勾结？嗯，我没有直接看到过。我不是说它不存在，但我还没看到。事实上，就 Twitter 文件而言，我……Matt TV 读过的内容比我多得多，因为我的首要任务一直只是让 Twitter 恢复健康，嗯，并修复，呃，Twitter 的工程系统，这样我们实际上才能，呃，你

知道，呃，以很高、很高的频率发布功能，你知道，我在 Twitter 方面的首要任务一直是，我们必须让 Twitter 在财务上处于健康状态，修好工程引擎，这样我们才能，呃，添加那些、那些、那些能让它好得多的功能和能力，并提高透明度和信任度以及所有这些。所以实际上我甚至没有，我，我没有读大多数东西，我几乎没读任何 Twitter 文件，呃，Matt TV 读了，而且非常非常明智的人也正在获得访问权限，所以你也会读到，嗯，自从文件发布以来，你有没有与其他任何社交平台，Meta、Google 等等联系过？有没有任何抵制、任何担忧、任何事情，还是一直很安静？呃，他们没有联系我。

呃，据我所知，他们没有进行任何、任何接洽，嗯，所以我，我想，听着，如果，如果我认为，如果结果表明这类东西是公众应该知道的，那我们就会把它公布出来，嗯，还有，呃，伙计，Matt Vivian Barry Wise，嘿，听着，无论你们看到什么，只要你们认为公众应该知道，就直接发布。关于信息的传播，所以现在只有 matai 非常明智，你有没有任何，呃，计划可能让、让更多记者获得访问权限，比如说，呃，Ryan Sevilla、《Daily Wire》、technophobic，你知道，我的意思是，他甚至以前就对此做过很多报道，所以我相信他们很想知道，呃，是的，我想，呃，我的意思是，也许在某个时候我们应该直接把一切都公布出来，你知道，嗯，呃，所以比如我认为一开始。

保持一定的连贯性是、是有好处的，而且，嗯，你知道，这样就不会一下子冒出100万个故事。是的，有道理。是的，一开始是滴灌，然后之后会变成洪水，对吧，因为否则一下子故事太多、内容太多，人们实际上无法专注于任何事情。是的，有道理。是的，你就是、你就是会被海量的事情淹没。我想一旦、一旦我们认为那些故事，那些关键故事已经讲完，那么我认为可能正确的做法就是，你知道，呃，提供一次数据倾倒，然后，呃，呃，仔细查看，看看遗漏了什么。过去24小时里针对 Matt taibi 的、那些、那些强烈反应，以及若干、若干，呃，自由派新闻，你对此感到非常、感到惊讶吗？

机构，许多自由派新闻记者站出来，猛烈抨击 Matt taibi，这确实非常令人震惊，你对此有什么回应？嗯，我认为那些人应该照照镜子，想想他们为什么具有欺骗性，他们为什么欺骗美国公众，而且他们不该试图把责任转嫁给 Matthew，而是应该为自己没有如实对待美国公众承担一些责任。是 Elon，我是 Mike Cohen，嗯，当然祝贺你收购 Twitter，但我想问你，你打算如何着手解决机器人和机器人形式的问题，它们在你的平台上制造了如此多的虚假信息和仇恨？我要做的最后一件事，我会击败那些该死的波士顿喷子，嗯，也许他们需要某种。

能清除他们的思想病毒，你知道，就是让他们变得可以自我毁灭。是的，我的意思是，这是战争，这是战争，而且我们会大获全胜，嗯，这些机器人造成的仇恨程度是天文数字，而且，嗯，真的非常糟糕，不过谢谢你，谢谢你对此作出的承诺。当然。我能不能、我能不能插进来问一个问题？Michael，就很快、很快说一下，我想谈谈那些箱子。当然存在商业机器人，对吧，人们试图发送垃圾信息，但更危险的点是那些试图干预这门课程，并且，呃，你知道，试图操纵对话的机器人，而它们主要由政府操控，对吧，它们由不同国家的情报界操控，他们正试图。

呃，操纵人们谈论例如乌克兰的方式，呃，我认为这里比较著名的例子之一就是所谓的 nafo 机器人，它们每个月都会出去扫射。是的，它们经常把这些混在一起，对吧，所以情报界就是以那种方式行事，他们有真人，然后有完全自动化的机器人，然后他们甚至让自己的情报来社区雇员使用 Twitter 账号也来插话，但所有这些都只有一个目标，也就是操纵公共话语，使其朝着他们的目标发展。我想当你公开呼吁乌克兰和平时，你自己就经历过这一点，你遭到了这些同样的老板的攻击。是的，不，完全如此，嗯，就像、就像我说的，你知道，我上任才1个月，我非常擅长。

软件，我写了20年软件，而且，呃，当年我非常擅长击败那些、那些骗子，而且，呃，他们就像，他们就是，那些不良行为者甚至在以前都可以为所欲为，嗯，他们将来不会再有这种自由，嗯，我期待那场战斗，嗯，我们会揭露那些采取行动，呃，操纵公众舆论的人，并用强光照亮这件事。太棒了。嘿，呃，Kim，如果可以的话，我想就同一个话题快速问一个问题，因为曾经有人告诉我，说他显然可以访问这些 NATO，呃，或者说 NATO 喷子的 Discord 服务器，而我是他们的首要目标之一，甚至有一段时间是头号目标，所以我只是出于某种个人好奇。顺便说一下，我是 Michael Tracy，嗯，是的，嗯，还有。

所以 Elon，我很好奇，自从你掌舵以来，你是否能够发现或衡量 Twitter 上任何与这种亲乌克兰派系特别相关的非真实活动，或者说，你知道，是否存在某种把这些行为者联系起来的特定系统，而你能够辨别出来？嗯，Twitter 目前用于检测大规模操纵的工具相当有强化，这就是为什么，但为了让它们得到强化，我们必须像我说的那样，建造工程引擎，以便能够大致看到系统中正在发生什么。我的意思是，一次又一次，情况一直是，就像 Twitter 不知道 Twitter 里正在发生什么，呃，那其实就是问题所在，呃，我们需要构建能够分析正在发生什么的工具。

并看看他们的大规模操纵证据在哪里、在哪里，呃，以便将其突出显示出来。而且我认为，即便不将其关闭，如果只是突出显示，说等一下，这些、这些账号都在协同行动，它们的行动方式快到人类根本不可能协调，呃，这、这看起来像是一个由，你知道，100 000个机器人组成的链接，它们都在协同行动，然后就说出来，并且从本质上揭露它们。但是、但是那些软件工具需要编写，嗯，而它们还没有被编写出来，所以，但它们会被写出来的。这很酷，所以我可以把它们交给你，对吧？Elon，如果你能够使用某种形式的两部分身份验证来确保这个人，不是会更容易吗？[音乐] 是的，哦，你。

回来，对，请说，对，埃隆，使用某种双卡身份验证来确保这个人确实如其所称的那样，会不会更容易？是的，嗯，现在，现在这个关于这种，呃，你知道的，蓝色认证标识的计划，嗯，是这样的，目前它，它，呃，在很多层面都存在问题。弄一个机器人太便宜了，所以，或者甚至弄一个网络喷子也是，比如，比如这不只是某个人在一组PC机上运行一大堆，你知道的，10 000个Twitter账户实例，你知道，你知道，呃，情况是，是，比如你可以有一个仓库，而且世界上很多地方都有这种情况，就像仓库里只有一排排手机。所以这些实际上是由人操作的。目前的，这个这个这个这个挑战，所以

挑战实际上是，对，你必须让拥有，嗯，机器人和网络喷子的成本更高，不能像现在这样，就像一个人坐在8部手机前，对吧，他们就是这样运作的。没错，那些农场就是一个人坐在耳机前。对，比如，嗯，不幸的是，CIA在我们4个部分中的虚假信息，呃，预算超过1亿美元。我的意思是，即使你让他们为每个账户每月支付8美元，那也不——这真的能阻止他们吗？呃，不是这8美元，嗯，如果纯粹是这样，那么我认为他们可以克服预算方面的，呃，挑战，但是，但是企业方面，但还要拥有大量手机和大量信用卡或借记卡，是这样

这些都会增加难度，而且，而且，而且，如果你想这么做，就要做到在10万部手机、10万张信用卡和10万个，嗯，你知道的，经过验证的电话号码之间找不到任何联系，这是非常难做到的，但仅仅是其中的后勤难度就非常高。所以更像是，你需要通过支付系统处理一定金额的钱，以便借用支付系统的身份验证，呃，你知道，所以8美元显然有点像一个随意定的数字，嗯，但是，但是还有另一件必须同时完成的事，那就是，呃，Twitter不能如此严重地依赖广告商。所以这是一次尝试

用一块石头打死2只鸟，嗯，也就是，也就是建立它，建立一个不依赖广告商的，呃，收入来源，这样广告商就不会对Twitter上发生的事情拥有太大的，呃，影响力，同时也，呃，把支付系统作为识别和阻止对系统进行大规模操纵的另一种手段。换句话说，用户会意识到这些是低等的人，对吧，他们全都是经过认证的个人，这会让他们想在这个网站上投放广告。所以这，这是胜利。嘿，让我们赢吧，对。好，我们开始。嘿，金，我能不能，我能不能就我的问题快速追问一下，你介意吗？好，我必须，我必须让这停一下，因为所有人都在互相抢话。埃隆刚才提出了一个非常重要的

观点，也就是，嗯，如果他减少对广告的依赖，他就能更自由地做对用户有益的事。所以这里有一大群人，我想所有感谢埃隆现在在这场言论自由斗争中为我们所做之事的人，都应该支持他，而你能支持他的最佳方式，就是成为Twitter的订阅用户。你一直都在使用这项很棒的服务，如果你希望他拥有更大的权力和更多的自由来为我们实现这些目标，那么，你知道，就做出每月8美元的投入吧。我认为这真的很值得，这是很多东西的价格。埃隆是否已经说过，获胜计划要恢复认证，嗯，也就是8美元的认证流程？我想他会告诉你，因为金把所有人都静音了。好，所以它

它似乎有时会把我静音，我猜，呃，嗯，是的，所以我、我认为我们可能大约还要一周，也许，呃，基本上就在接下来这一周，我们应该能够，呃，重新启动认证流程。它会面向全球吗，还是仍然只限美国？实际上，我正要和团队讨论这个问题。所以这一次，对于认证，我们正在采取一些额外步骤，其中，嗯，你知道，一个人必须通过电话、电话认证，使用一家已知可靠的运营商，一家自有的可靠电话运营商，嗯，而且，呃，我们也会向人们提供机会，如果他们愿意，可以进行身份认证，有点像 Airbnb 所做的那样，呃，类似的事情，而且他们在全世界都是这样做的。然后你、然后你就能够查看一个账号并说，这个账号已经过付款认证，它经过了认证，它是身份

可选择进行认证，并且还要确认组织隶属关系，你实际上是否隶属于这个组织，以及向组织提供能力，让其界定、去、去、去、去说明哪些用户隶属于该组织。所以，比如说，你实际上是斯坦福大学的教授吗，或者你实际上是，比如说，《纽约时报》的记者吗，或者随便什么，嗯，或者是一家，你知道，呃，百事公司的员工，或者不管是什么，你知道，总的来说，要让“已认证”的含义具有细分程度、细微差别，而不是过去蓝标认证那种像一袋混杂的废话一样的东西；在那里，你知道，你可能10年前是 Mashable 的一名实习生，而现在却我们认证了，这有点疯狂，或者、或者还有

然后它们也一直在被交易，呃，你可以直接买一个认证徽章。所以你无法、你无法真正判断，某个人是否为旧版蓝标提供了证明；你无法判断这是否、这是否是合法情况，是加密货币骗局，他们实际上是不是，或者其他，你不知道，因为它没有任何细分程度，而且没有、现在没有办法从 Google 买到它们，对吧？比如，你实际上可以直接在 Google 上搜索已认证账号，它们的售价大约是200、500或类似的数字，对，完全正确，完全正确，这不像是、并不像是你必须去所谓的“暗网”才能、才能购买蓝标认证，你实际上直接用 Google 搜索就行，它就在 Google 搜索结果的第一页，已认证。所以、所以它基本上就是一种快速认证，在这种

腐败，嗯，而且、而且因此我们需要向前推进，采用一种能够、能够提供有关认证性质的细分程度、细节和细微差别的东西，呃，这样你才能真正相信你所看到的内容。埃隆，你说过一些关于，呃，言论自由、你对它的承诺以及它在人类未来中的作用的确实令人钦佩的话。你没有回答关于支持中国和伊朗抗议者的问题。他们的言论自由、中国人的言论自由对中国的人类重要吗？只是让你知道，比如，Twitter 在中国无法访问，你需要 VPN，所以这个问题有点毫无意义。所以你不认为让中国人或伊朗人能够访问它，这并不重要，因为很多人对，呃，它是

一个《第一修正案》问题感到困惑。马特·泰比公布的是什么，嗯，《第一修正案》关注的是政府压制，所以在1月20日之前发生的任何事情都不属于《第一修正案》，除非那是之后的拜登政府。所以对于那些认为，你知道，我们已经拿到了确凿证据、不需要等待其他任何东西的人，如果你能谈谈那个问题，马斯尔先生。是的，我的意思是，首先，实际上，如果，嗯，如果政府之前存在电气干预，那是存在问题的，因为，呃，呃，你知道，那、那就是，呃，那、那，我认为确实是一个问题，呃，看起来 Twitter 确实错误地声称不存在，呃，干预，嗯，但是，对，但那、那与实物捐助有关，那是一种非常不同的

事情，而且它确实、确实是犯罪。但是、但是你能告诉我们，是否还有，你知道，还会有更多确凿证据出现？是的，我认为会有更多确凿证据，因为接下来显而易见的问题是，那么选举之后发生了什么？完全正确，完全正确。是的，我的意思是，那可能是第2集适合讨论的内容，嗯，也就是选举之后发生了什么，以及我们要怎样。我们必须等到第2集吗？我不知道，问问马特。是的，我们就快速地，我们继续。威尔，不，谢谢你，埃隆。如果你之前没有、如果你之前已经谈过这个问题，那我道歉。感谢你参加这次通话这么久。除了亨特·拜登之外，还有哪些话题，顺便说一下，我是 Fox News 的威尔·凯恩，除了亨特·拜登之外，哪些话题遭受了最多由政府引发的审查

呃，你可能没听到我之前的评论，不过呃，实际上我没有，我就像我说过的，我一直在，我个人一直在努力让 Twitter 恢复健康，并修复工程引擎，嗯，我个人并没有一直在仔细研究 Twitter 文件，嗯，那一直算是，你知道，是马特·泰比在做，巴里·韦斯现在也要做了，所以嗯，我说的任何话多少都会是呃，你知道，其实是猜测，嗯，不过呃，你知道，所以我，我不知道，嗯，你知道，围绕呃呃 1月6日显然有很多问题，嗯，围绕呃，你知道，新冠有问题，有很多问题，但我认为重要的是，我们只要把嗯，你知道，让阳光照进所有这些事情，所以 Twitter 所做的任何事情

而且有时我觉得，你知道，很多时候 Twitter 做的一些事情只是，它们只是，并非出于恶意，只是愚蠢。所以有些事情，比如把发 NPC 梗图的人当成 NPC 来看，对吧，所以数千人被封禁了。是的，完全正确。来自一个好问题，嗯，对于 Twitter 这家公司，嗯，我想我们大多数人都同意这就是不对的，从那以后有没有任何进展？你是否一直在和他们讨论？还有哪些其他策略可以带来收入，让我们减少对广告商的依赖？你可以听到这个，这是埃里克·博林又一次，相信任何认知，或者你能有任何证据证明那些，那里有一些迹象表明，政治光谱右侧的很多人失去了大量的

关注者，我会说从 2015、2016 一直到，你知道，接近 2021 年底。我给你举一个完全是我自己的恐慌例子，我，我失去了 80 000 左右，而且直到我——这不是夸张——直到你收购 Twitter，我才开始再次以相当强劲的方式增加关注者。对此有任何证据吗？你有没有证据证明这是 Twitter 方面某种呃计划或策略？嗯，你知道，再说一遍，我，我说过，我没有读过 Twitter 文件，所以我肯定很难说，除了你，所以我的，我的了解有限，这就是为什么我会把这交给嗯，还有巴里·韦斯，最终还有其他人，这就是，就是，但如果我，如果我，如果我说，我最好的猜测是什么，那就是对共和党人适用了非常不同的标准

U. 的候选人。

S，而对民主党候选人则不同。看起来——强调是看起来，我不是说情况肯定如此——看起来存在双重标准，即嗯，民主党人没有受到审查，左翼事业没有受到审查，但右翼、右翼事业和共和党人受到了，嗯，而且这，而且我认为坦率地说，即使没有任何 Twitter 文件的披露，任何使用 Twitter 的人都明显看得出来，它并非一视同仁，而且坦率地说，这正是一个总部位于旧金山的组织会有的行为，呃，那里是极左的。所以从他们的立场来看，他们不会觉得自己是在嗯不公平地行事，从他们的立场来看，这只不过是他们看待世界的方式。嗯，我是说，我记得马特发过类似 Twitter 的政治捐款

超过 99 是给民主党的，那么你会期待人们持有什么样的观点呢？这是你会预期一家本质上是旧金山政治提纯物的公司表现出的行为，而我希望那只是信息。我想问一个简单的问题，我想很快提个建议，埃隆，当你说话时，我们能非常清楚地听到你；当你听别人说话时，你的喷气式飞机的背景噪声会造成干扰，你能不能把自己静音？可以。所以总之，我有一个问题，就是当你，你知道，把这些文件提供给所有人，或者更确切地说提供给更多人时，我只想请求，呃，我不知道，把它交给我，因为我为 Rebel News 工作，而且我认为我们能像其他任何人一样出色地报道这件事

真的。是的，所以，所以中国，所以蒂姆·科斯特正试图上来。顺便说一句，埃隆刚刚问你一个问题，不过与此同时，你想继续，我知道 Persistence 也有问题，我会在 Persistence 之后立刻把麦克风给你。不过还有一个，一个问题，再回到广告商，埃隆，不确定你之前是否听到了，嗯，那些停止在 Twitter 投放广告的广告商方面有没有任何进展？我们都同意这就是不对的。还有没有其他在广告之外带来收入的策略？呃，你静音了。嗯，是的，所以我是说，所以，所以 Apple 已经全面恢复投放广告，这值得感谢，呃，Apple 在历史上和现在都是 Twitter 最大的单一广告商。所以呃，感谢 Apple 推理广告，嗯，而且呃，我认为

我们，我们看到，我们正开始看到许多其他广告商也恢复支出。呃，我认为问题在于，他们会读到媒体上的所有这些报道，然后嗯以为那些是真的，而它们并不是真的。嗯，而且随着大家逐渐看清，媒体把 Twitter 描绘成某种右翼地狱景象的报道，它绝对是，而实际上这里的机器人少得多，网络喷子少得多，嗯，而且它，我，其实我认为有趣好玩得多。嗯，我们从用户分钟数和日均用户数中也看到了这一点，于是广告商就会说，好吧，我想呃，也许，也许现在重新下水是安全的。所以我们确实，我们确实看到嗯广告商恢复在 Twitter 投放广告

所以那是，那是个好迹象。嗯，我希望速度能更快，但，但我们确实看到他们在恢复。广告方面更、更令人担忧的因素只是嗯整个行业的广告下滑，Twitter 也无法幸免。所以即使广告商确实重新加入，总体广告支出对所有公司而言都在下降，因此 Twitter 必须拥有替代收入来源，所以才有订阅用户嗯收入，这对 Twitter 的生存，以及降低其对广告的依赖来说都非常重要。是的，总的来说，我认为，你知道，我，我，我对未来持谨慎乐观态度。是的，所以我，我，我，我想，我要补充，我要补充一点值得肯定的地方，比如我，我没有

数据，我对 Twitter 以前的那些，呃，你知道，高管等等没有任何意见，但非常客观地说，你在1个月里所做的，而且这完全是客观地说，你在1个月里所做的简直[ __ ]疯狂，呃，你取得的进展之多，以及 Twitter 在如此短的时间内发展到如今的程度，嗯，所以并不是说你需要更多赞誉，因为你在这里已经得到了很多，但我也只是想再添上一份赞誉。我会把麦克风交给，交给，嗯，已经等了一会儿的 persistence，然后是 Spike。请说，persistence。[音乐]我的问题是，如果 Twitter 不遵守某项政策，就威胁从 Twitter 撤资，另外，我们是否掌握任何关于国会议员的信息，他们曾威胁说，如果 Twitter 不

遵守某项政策，除非。我真的对你关于，呃，推文的正面性和负面性的评论很感兴趣，你说正面推文会传播得，呃，更远，我只是想看看，Twitter 会采用什么衡量标准，呃，来判定某样东西是正面的还是负面的，谢谢。你回来了吗？是的，当然，嗯，好吧，广告商，嗯，大多数情况下，广告商是相当理性的，因为，嗯，你知道，如果，如果你，尤其是如果你，比如说你为一种适合全家的产品做广告，那，呃，你不希望有那种，比如说你在为一部迪士尼电影做广告，你不会想要旁边出现某种超级负面的，呃，某种高调言论，或者，你知道，通过这个，还有还有一部电影或别的什么，而且而且你也，他们不希望有不

不适合工作场所的内容紧挨着，呃，儿童玩具之类的广告，所以这些事情相当合理，而且而且，嗯，而且我同意，嗯，广告广告商有权让他们的广告出现在与他们的他们的品牌一致的非广告内容旁边，所以那其实只意味着，比如，呃，你知道，什么是，是 D，是，是，嗯，不尝试通过广告将，呃，让广告商感到不适的内容变现。所以我认为总的来说，情况还可以，还可以，嗯，我是说，我认为确实有一些过分热心的行动来自，嗯，激进团体，他们向广告商施压，然后广告商又反过来向 Twitter 施压，嗯，而且你知道，我们正试图算是，你知道，那件事，我认为有些不合理，但，呃，它，我，我认为

未来会朝好的方向发展，但我，我不确定，不过看起来它正朝着好的方向发展。就像我说的，广告商正在回归 Twitter，呃，苹果来来回回地恢复了全部全部广告支出，而且，嗯，我已经，我已经和，呃，广告商团体进行过多次交谈，而且而且每次我进行这些交谈时，广告商的回应都很积极，而且而且我也，只是因为他们就像，我是说，他们最后会去读那些，那些，那些所谓的主流媒体，然后就像，你知道，呃，然后他们最终对正在发生的事情形成了完全错误的印象，于是我说，好吧，你们试过使用 Twitter 吗？你们亲眼看到这些事情了吗？然后他们就说，实际上，我们使用 Twitter 时感觉挺正常的。就像，是的，那是因为

它确实没问题。然后，嗯，然后我还发现，比如，听着，当我们试图扩大 Twitter 的用户群时，如果，如果一个新用户来到 Twitter，然后立刻遭到网络喷子的攻击，而且而且被痛骂，他们就会想离开，因为谁会想去，这就像参加一个聚会或什么的，然后所有人都开始冲你大喊，你不会想，你会想离开那个聚会，你知道。Twitter 确实需要为新用户提供一个更友好的环境，所以这些，这些激励实际上是一致的，嗯，也就是说，如果，如果，呃，如果人们来了，而且而且他们看到有趣、好笑的推文，看到那些，那些能让他们学到，学到新东西的内容，或者就像，它，它很有娱乐性，很好笑，就像，那就是我们应该看到更多的那类东西，而且，呃

而且那将会，那，那符合大多数广告商想要的，我认为，也符合 Twitter 为了扩大用户群所想要的，嗯，而且总的来说，随着时间推移，就像是有点，你知道，人、人们可以在某种程度上选择自己喜欢什么样的体验，嗯，就像你可以选择广播电台一样，比如，你知道，有些人想听那种轻柔爵士、轻松音乐，或者他们可能想转到，你知道，流、流行音乐，或者他们想听重金属激流乐，而且，呃，各有所好；或者如果这是，呃，你知道，你是想进行像全接触式武术，还是想进行轻接触式的，还是想做瑜伽，你知道，你可以决定其中哪一种、你想要什么样的体验，这将会

很重要，这样 Twitter 才能吸引广泛的受众。是的，所以那、那、那就是大致的行动计划。哦，很快提一下，他提到了用于认证不同实体的不同颜色，呃，支票簿，那仍会是新认证流程的一部分吗？呃，是的，所以还是那句话，目标就像是说，怎样尽可能快、尽可能清楚地向使用 Twitter 的人传达他们所看到的是什么，嗯，所以商业组织会有，嗯，金色对勾，政府会有一个很棒的对勾，经过认证的个人会有蓝色对勾，然后还会有，呃，嗯，一个组织隶属关系标志，所以就像在你的对勾旁边，假设你是一名经过认证的用户，如果你是

斯坦福大学的一名教授，而斯坦福大学正在参与确认谁是教授，那么你的蓝色对勾旁边就会出现一个很小的斯坦福标志，嗯，所以边缘正在滚动，就像看到，哦，这实际上是一名 stem 教授，或者这个人实际上确实在可口可乐工作，而且，嗯，这里有一种清晰度。会不会有一个让组织申请这个的流程，你知道，假设你是一个小型新闻组织的一员，并且你想申请这种状态，它会向公众开放吗？当然，这是会非常有选择性的吗？呃，不，它会向、向公众开放，所以这算是，嗯，你知道，所以它不会像是由钦定的一组公司构成，嗯，现在会有一项严格的政策

反对，呃，冒充和欺骗，所以如果、如果，呃，如果这是、如果、如果有人试图欺骗，嗯，用户，那么他们的账户将被暂停。那、那，是的，我这里有一个问题，我会把它交给 Tom，就是来自一个相当知名但没有透露身份的人，不过这是一个简单的问题，顺便说一下，任何人有问题都可以私信我，团队正在查看所有私信。问题是，嗯，关于加密货币 Twitter 支付的计划，它会不会像微信一样，或者你是否有，呃，你到底有没有狗狗币计划？是的，是的，我认为我们确实想让 Twitter 能够支持，呃，常规支付以及，呃，如果你有货币，呃，还有、还有，呃、呃，让使用加密货币进行交易变得更容易。是的。好的，我这里还有一个来自一位大 YouTuber 的问题

也是，Elon，最先的，呃，所以他们在问，他们想把 YouTube 创作者带到 Twitter，你的、你的计划是什么，呃，你的 Twitter 创作者计划是什么，如果有的话？呃，是的，所以对于视频，我们需要升级 Twitter 系统，使其能够支持更长的视频，呃，然后、然后让创作者能够从观看量中获得收入，这会结合广告，而这些显然都是需要做的事情。就像我说的，为了让这些事情发生，比如你可以有一份长达1英里的愿望清单，但如果、如果工程引擎没有修好，所以那、那就是为什么我首先也是最重要地专注于 Twitter 的工程，嗯，如果没有它，你可以有一个愿望，无论你希望什么，都无法做到，因为工程

不起作用。嘿，我有一个非常棒的建议给你，游戏之后我让 Tom 插话，就在你之后，Tom，抱歉拖了这么久。请说，Kim，抱歉。是的，你知道外国媒体在 Twitter 上经常会被标注为，比如，俄罗斯控制的、国家控制的媒体，我们为什么不对美国所有这些告诉我们去打仗的媒体机构做同样的事？你知道，这一切都很棒，比如，我们为什么不也给它们加上标签，U。

S 政府，呃，呃，国家媒体。不，我认为这是个好主意，嗯，因为就像，你知道，就像 SBF 给了不同媒体组织那么多钱，然后、然后他们就写这些吹捧文章，这就像，好吧，我们应该把那标注为 SBF 附属媒体，因为它确实是，呃，比如，如果你要为一个给了你一大笔钱的人写吹捧文章，那么公众应该知道你，呃，可能有偏见。所以，是的，我的意思是，我认为应该如此，如果、如果，嗯，如果某个东西正在接受来自太空的指示，那么应该向读者说明这些信息，嗯，比如、比如究竟是谁、究竟是谁、谁是、谁实际上拥有编辑控制权，要说清楚，嗯，因为这全都是试图给予 Twitter 用户最准确的

并且真实地理解正在发生什么，并且、并且能够校准他们在 Twitter 上读到、看到或听到的内容，能够根据它来自哪里、它来自哪里、作者是谁、从编辑角度来说是谁在控制这些，来校准其真实性，嗯，因此他们，那样，你知道，在那种情况下就可以运用合理的判断。是的，不，我同意你的看法，而且我认为这会是一件非常好的事情，可以创造公平的竞争环境，因为当你想了解乌克兰正在发生什么，而你从以某种方式被标注的来源那里获得信息，然后 U.

S 新闻来源完全没有被标注，你知道，这样的问题在于，人们会认为这个来源可信，而这个来源不可信。所以如果 Twitter 有这样的标签，那么也需要公平地应用于那些明显支持战争、并且明显被情报界评论员渗透的媒体，这些评论员正在告诉我们所有这些关于为什么我们必须处于战争状态的[ __ ]。我同意，这就是最大限度的真相是至关重要的，仍然，你知道，让你自由。Tom Jones，我知道你已经等了一会儿了。Tom。谢谢，谢谢你邀请我。所以也许就再问几个问题，然后我得回去工作了。我、我会问他。是的，我们很感激。继续创新，继续创造。谢谢。还有 Elon，我会、我会、我会、我会

我会、我会继续。Tom 在这里。是的，所以我来插一句，Elon，嗯，我问你这个问题是因为 Tom 那边没、没能正常工作，呃，这实际上是一个简单的问题。我要碰碰运气，看看能不能在 Twitter 上收到一条私信，这样我就有一条沟通渠道，然后我可以试着请你上来，并说服你参加更多 Spaces，所以这是我们的问题，只是，呃，我这边试一下。我很感谢你再次加入。哦，是的，John，说吧，伙计。我、我已经说完了。是的，谢谢，我是 Judicial Watch 的 Tom Fitton。Elon，感谢你的公共服务和你在这里付出的透明度努力。你知道，我担心的是，你知道，作为一个监督组织的负责人，是政府腐败所作出的回应，你知道，不仅是对你可能会发现的东西，而且是对

你正在做的事，而且当美国总统在讲台上庆祝他的选举胜利时，却呼吁对你的活动进行国家安全审查，你还有参议员高度，你知道，把注意力集中在你身上，还有其他政府机构在调查你和你的其他企业，呃，你是否担心，A，报复，以及B，你是否看到了相关证据？政府行动缓慢，所以关于任何事情，任何与政府有关的事情，需要认识到的重要一点就是，他们并不灵活，他们很慢。因此，我认为我们将会看到的行动，而且我认为很可能会有一些行动，我们会，会发生，但它们会缓慢发生，而到目前为止才过了，才过了1个月。不过我不会，我会

预期，呃，我会预期会有一些，你知道，可能不是，可能至少有几件恶意的事情目前正在酝酿之中，很可能。我会说，假定不存在恶意的事情，这会是，呃，天真的。所以我想如果，但是我，我会直接在 Twitter 上揭露它们，看看会发生什么。嗯，最重要的是，你没有任何自杀的想法吧，埃隆？我没有任何自杀的想法。我，呃，我，我如果自杀了，那不是真的。嗯，这个，这个，这个问得好，克莱尔。我知道他，他喜欢跳下去，所以也许再来1个问题，再来1个或2个，呃，克莱，然后伊恩，我会让你来结束，伊恩，因为你之前提问做得很棒。克莱，请说。是的，你已上线。这里是，呃，克莱·特拉维斯，来自，呃，Out

Kick、Fox News，以及与克莱顿·帕克一起主持的广播节目。嗯，你之前说过，而且我认为这非常重要，你在考虑当你收到政府要求审查某人或删除推文时，就把这件事告诉所有人。那里正在采用什么，什么样的流程？这种情况能在多大程度上发生？因为我认为你说得对，比如当他们针对詹姆斯·伍兹时，让政府因阳光照射而感到难堪，会大幅减少任何审查企图。那里的最新进展是什么？时间框架大概怎样？你认为这能够实施吗？是的，你静音了，埃隆。我的意思是，就像我之前说的，我们会，Twitter 会做法律界限内获准做的无论什么事情，呃，尽可能做到透明和

开放。嗯，甚至有些事情，如果我们目前是，而且我不知道是不是这种情况，但如果我们目前都被法律耗尽，我认为我们会推动修改法律，以减少那些约束，因为我认为我们必须，你知道，我们必须为了言论自由而艰难地寻找，而言论自由是正常运作的民主制度的基石。而且，呃，我认为你会，你会看到，布丁好不好，吃了才知道。在未来几个月里，我认为你会看到 Twitter 的透明度和可信度得到显著改善。你知道，希望你已经至少看到其中一些了。嗯，而且它会，它会变得更好，我认为它会以越来越快的方式变得更好，前提是我不会意外地让自己自杀，而我不会那么做。埃隆，谢

谢你今天抽出这么多时间。你加入我们，向我们提供你的见解，真是给我们带来了莫大的福气，我真的很感激。别忘了为爱德华·斯诺登和朱利安·阿桑奇发起那个投票。是的，我很想知道公众关于这2个人以及他们正在为何而战的事情。我，我会的。是的，而且，呃，而且就是这样，我会强调，我不是在这里作出判断，我只是在提问。我会在这个 Twitter Space 结束后马上做。对，向公众提1个问题，你知道，就只是。没错，选择1个投票。是的，所以我有1个问题。好，所以，是的，你知道，这只是1个问题。我不是，看，好吧，所以我有1个问题，既然，你知道，这是最后1个：你有什么话要对外面所有那些仇视者和失败者说？那些人，你知道，取笑

你或者攻击 Twitter，大概4周前说它要死了。你想说什么？Twitter 还活着，宝贝。太他妈对了，太他妈对了。漂亮。我期待就在这里，在 Twitter 上，和你埃隆·马斯克一起参加由财报电话会进行的测试。是的，我认为，我，我认为这会奏效。你知道，我收到了私信，所以我假设你对金作出的承诺，以及你对你的头衔作出的承诺，应该会通过。埃隆，真的很感谢你。还有，呃，马里奥，回头见，希望很快再见到你。我真的很感激，兄弟。谢谢你，埃隆。好了，谢谢各位，再见。我告诉过你，这值得听，这就是我一直在我的 Patreon 账户上谈论的那类[ __ ]。如果你还不是会员，你现在知道该怎么做。那里有超过230个视频，其中许多都深入探究这些

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Kanye so that would that was definitely exciting me to violence so uh anyway that's not cool ladies and gentlemen Elon Musk has just hopped off a two-hour Twitter spaces discussion slash interview where he shared his thoughts and opinions on all kinds of stuff super juicy very spicy topics everything from Big Tech collusion with government censorship freedom of speech his true intentions with Twitter his workload I mean literally everything you can imagine including a lot of very controversial and spicy takes right in this video I've cut out nearly half an hour literally over 27 minutes of silence just trying to condense this it's going to be all over the place there's interruptions there's some audio challenges along the way but I thought I'd post this

unfiltered to you guys the girls can take the time to watch it YouTube gives you the option of playing back at a higher playback speed than one time so I might save a few of you a little bit of time not gonna add any commentary along the way I just wanted to put this up because I'm not sure if people will be able to replay this Twitter spaces it was so incredibly important really listen through the entire thing you'll learn a ton the best part about this despite people talking over each other a little bit I'm like the sound bites in the media this is a deep and nuanced discussion including elon's true intentions for the purchase of Twitter and some of his plans for the turnaround of course if you appreciate this video and want loads more content head

over to patreon with the card in the corner or the link at the pin comment you definitely won't be disappointed actually that's a lie if you're a snowflake you get easily butt hurt you probably won't be disappointed but you will be mad and you'll probably Rage Quit within a few days otherwise see you over on patreon enjoy the show Kanye so that would that was definitely exciting me to buy so uh anyway that's not cool but you mentioned in a good way well no it's just that like it just makes it like an analysis of the second world war or something you know uh that's a history that's a history drama or whatever you know it's context it's like it's like okay you know like let's live a battlefield or something and that's good you know this this you know uh

some sort of you know uh War history thing I don't know you know something like that then that that would be okay but um yeah it has to become sexual I mean if he's posting it in a way that is trying to Rally people to anti-semitic views then yeah yeah I mean it's like you can also like say like okay well let's look for added context outside of Twitter to say to say like well was this man in a in a friendly way and it's like okay well no he's saying that he likes Hitler and uh other things and look at the point of which Alex Jones is like telling Kanye to to calm down and and you know please please stop you have to say okay you know Alex Jones is pretty edgy so uh Alex Jones is saying Kanye wants to Kanye to stop that's that's a big deal so anyway the

uh but I want to get into like some sort of huge like this could easily get derailed into you know a laborious dude yeah talk more about the file so you mentioned that you gave it to a very wise right so she has full access does this mean that we are going to see multiple exposes not just uh once we met taibi yeah the the point is to as is to just have everything come clean so the thing is that like it's not that uh people would necessarily agree with everything that Twitter has done in the past or in the future but they should at least know that it is occurring and there's no Shady stuff that is uh happening that they're unaware of so then at least if if quarter is explicit about its actions and transparent you can then approach appropriately calibrate

uh your interpretation of what you learn on Twitter um as opposed to thinking you know Twitter pretending to be unbiased and and even-handed a good way to get everyone to agree with all the actions that Twitter will take that's impossible uh that there's a that is a null Set uh but what it is possible to do is to have be fully transparents give me a break oh you're back he's back you dropped out for a bit yeah can you hear me can you hear us it's not it's still glitching a bit can you hear me I'm about to take off yeah it's good yeah Verizon commercial really quick I just wanted to ask you one really quick if there's any way to combine Twitter's efforts with people who have gone you know as far as filing constitutional challenges is there any way to get

them in touch with Matt and combine the efforts there uh possibly I'd reach out to Matt um and I mentioned I've also asked Barry Weiss to you know also uh you know active interact I just gave Barry Wise access to the Twitter files like an hour ago you know I think at some point it might make sense to just have them publicly available um you know so that anyone can look at them a quick a quick side question did they don't care anything we're aiming for is that you know anything bad that Twitter's done in the past that that it'd be surfaced so as to uh instill trust about Twitter in the future and where I may have blanked out a moment ago is uh that it is impossible to for a footer to take only take take the set of actions that will satisfy all people or

probably even 1900 people all right but what sort of can do that that is completely transparent about attention and what's what what is it doing what is it not doing how does the algorithm work and and if an account is suspended why is it suspended if an account is de-boosted uh just showing that as an individual search brand uh and and giving a reason for that um so that there's maximum transparency in the system um so even if you disagree with what's going on on Twitter you at least can caliber what you learn on Twitter based on on what Twitter is doing not not not not have a situation where Twitter is claiming to be fair and even-handed and then actually is is not being so at least from from your perspective so do you have plans Elon to take Twitter

public again in the future so Tara's asking by the way James Wood I've sent you an invite real James would have sent you an invite check your DMs uh Tara's asking if you have any plans to take um Twitter public again and my question I'll give you another question as well my question is what type of pressure if any have you faced since releasing the files did you hear me Elon it sounds like he's testing the new semi truck himself [Laughter] I moved a couple of people down so we have a we can have a more uh civil you know conversation without too many speakers on stage because there are a couple of important questions that I want to ask you uh the first one is you know obviously with your move of full transparency you are putting the groundworks in place

to uh justify why free speech on Twitter is so important and why you are making the decisions uh you know of for example a great amnesty for all users and you know by by showing that abuse has happened in the past and that Twitter before it was under your control was abusing their power you're basically setting the stage to say okay people should all have their their rights unless they broke the law are restored to be on Twitter is that right uh yeah I mean yes that that is the intent um now to be clear we're all going to be doing this sort of slowly and deliberately if this can't be a like uh you know let's open all the jails simultaneously and and uh have at it guys so it's it's gonna be you know slower than people would like it's more deliberate um

I I do have a lot of [ __ ] going on right now so I can imagine no I'm trying to do the most that blind I'm flogging my human brain as far as most amount of work done but like this week alone you know we had a meeting with some National Security uh Starling is also failing yeah two months instead of one month that's a good timeline and also I gotta make sure Twitter is like uh stable from a financial standpoint and it's not losing tons of money and goes bankrupt in which case a little bit you know juggling a lot of things here say the least um but I think over time uh which not that long of a time iterative iteratively we can move Twitter to be a more broadly inclusive in the third like as many people as possible can participate um and one to participate

um and and as trusted and transparent as possible and and the proof will be in the pudding over time and we're not going to please everyone obviously that's impossible because you know if you say like what are the requests of everyone you have a Venn diagram intersection of zero but but what can be done is maximum transparents what uh what can be done is uh making it clear when uh something has been de-boosted or search banned when your account is shares band and why that account has been suspended to be clear about why and whether it's temporary or what the path is to restore the account uh and and just I think that's that's something that uh can be done and and will massively help with trust and uh in addition to now there's obviously a challenge that

Twitter's had over time and I think this is generally an issue with social media which is that it is digital technologies that require a lot of software to be written and they've sort of come out of Silicon Valley um almost ultimate selling silica Valley with uh except for Snappers in La which is California but but effectively what is happening is um an export of the moral framework of San Francisco to Earth kind of a big deal and problematic because previously you know San Francisco which is uh you know pretty far left but the the influence would be limited to San Francisco but now it's it's it affects the whole world because of the centralization of information with social media company and that's I think not good it's it's uh you know so it's we need

to establish something that is fair and and takes into account a wide range of views and and doesn't have a Tilson playing field towards uh far left uh far far left in San Francisco um I think there should be a place for the you know they they can be on Twitter too but there should be a wide range of political views and sentiments and and uh and as much as reasonably possible aim for for freedom of speech yeah and and generally I want Twitter to be a forceful good for the future of civilization so that's that's the case you don't can you tell us approximately how much time you have so that we can uh get an idea how many questions we can get in I don't know like maybe half an hour or so nice oh that's fantastic that's very good hey um what I also see Happening

Here is that the mainstream media that um was part of covering up this uh Hunter Biden laptop story because I was calling is now calling this um you know some kind of fizzer that they they don't think that there's enough uh you know obviously they are acting in that way because they themselves are now uh on fire because you have exposed what they have done um what what do you have to say to them I'm sorry could you repeat the question again I'm in the air so this is like not it's not super optimal from an audience what what do you have to say to the media that's sort of downplaying uh what the uh the Twitter files uh represents the question yeah uh yeah so he's he's asking you what do you have to say to the media that's downplaying the uh the Twitter

files Revelations you know because they're they're basically saying it's not a big deal that it's nonsense you know that it's just it's just crap that you're just doing this for PR what's your response to them yeah the amazing having connection issues with you specifically Ian there's certain people up here that I yeah can John ask your question again first Elon can you hear us no I think you can't hear anybody I don't I don't know if it's me so he's he's either in a semi truck or he is on his plane he said he said he's on his Lane yeah foreign story is now trying to downplay your release um obviously because they are Under Fire as well right because they have been exposed by this uh by this release what do you want to say to them what do you want to

say to the media that is trying to turn this into another Burger well that try to turn it into another Burger because they were complicit in leaving the American public um and so rather than admit that they they lie to the public they're trying to pretend that this is a nothing Burger obviously that's that's clearly what happened yeah I mean shame on them yeah I agree with that and then the other important thing here is that you are basically exposing collusion between a political party and uh in one file that was released it was even it called the Biden team contacting Twitter I mean that is election interference isn't it yeah I mean I clearly if if Twitter is doing one before an election shutting down dissenting voices um on a pivotal election that

is the very definition of election interference and what the hell else would you of course it's like yes um frankly Twitter was acting like an arm of the Democratic National Committee it was absurd well and you know that's fantastic that you're releasing that but isn't Twitter just the tip of the iceberg can't we uh admit now that this would have happened and all big tech companies that are you know being used to stifle free speech and sense of people and try to you know destroy stories that are dangerous to their political goals no I mean what collusion is insane like Twitter is the one company that isn't isn't that is no longer colluding and is no longer uh just going with the the sort of NPC group thing I don't know you know I should probably increase

my security or something absolutely I mean this is why I hate you so much yeah just just a second that would have been my next question Iman how worried are you personally I mean you're putting a lot of the line right you have all these businesses going um you know you you are out there fighting the good fight for Free Speech but there's also a certainly a concern on your mind about what the response to this is going to be do you feel threatened do you feel worried like how do you feel personally about it yeah and I'll add on to a question I asked as well Elon like what type of pressure have you faced so far maybe it should be more worried than I am but I don't know I think generally if you do write by the people then you have the people on your side

um if you want you can come to see can you hear me first Elon before I give the mic back together yeah oh good yeah he dropped that can you hear me or not just sign off he can't hear me I'll give the mic back to Kim no you can't hear me can you take the mic yeah really quick of Senator Warren's response that one person uh him should not have control over the narrative I mean uh you can come to Switzerland but well yeah I mean obviously if not one person has control of narrative because there's the entire Ministry media establishment who all talk like group think NPC Facebook there's Google uh there's Tech talk uh no the actual problem is there's one person who isn't Towing the line that's the real problem so that's the exact response that we needed that's

you yeah I mean Ian can you ask him a quick question as well as soon as one person doesn't toe the line now everyone else is looking like you know well now we're allowed to Elon and that's the issue is before we were at risk of being suspended or de-platformed you're allowing I mean yeah exactly as possible time like competition does keep companies honest or or should it isn't it forceful keeping companies honest so if there's a competition for the truth and Twitter wins the competition for the truth then it will win over the readership and the attention of the public and everyone else will be forced to tell the truth too do you think that you run the risk of like the EU commission or any of these other big political bodies trying to take you down when

you're doing this I did not think this is but but I also think that like this song this is this is the support of the people then you have to say like any organization at least in the US that it is going to go against all of the people uh I think will be in big trouble themselves you know uh Elon you're doing this at such an important time in history because uh I think people can sense that the censorship is becoming more uh that the media is feeling more and more propaganda that we are heading into a future where Free Speech isn't really acceptable anymore and for you with your audience uh you know to go out there and put this transparency out there I think a lot of people appreciate that this is a you know a fight that you are that you are taking Center

Stage uh you know in order to uh fix some of these issues no I mean if frankly the [Music] during any open-air corporates uh let me put it that way um it's not that hard to kill me if somebody wanted to so hopefully they don't and uh the Fate Smiles upon does not have security that doesn't happen um and they're taking reasonable proportions I guess but but uh there's definitely some some risks here but I mean at the end of the day I think we'll just want to have a future where you know we're not oppressed or so our speech is not suppressed and and we can say what we want to say without fear of reprisals and um you know as long as long as you're not like really causing harm somebody else then you should be able to say what you want um and uh and that's

quite a rare thing you know I I think as people just take that for granted sometimes but really throughout history Free Speech has been highly unusual and so we have to fight very hard to keep that because it's such a rare thing and and it's by no means uh something that's default it's a controlled speech for not free and yeah it is incredibly ironic so many so many reporters in the media and prominent politicians are calling for drains on freezing they're they're this is crazy it feels like we're in Bizarro World here do you think that that comes from the way that uh journalism is taught now in today's schools and that we call post-modern journalism or where do you think that's really coming from I mean I haven't been I haven't been to journalism school

but it does seem as though that the the elite educational institutions have been something virus which is you know so like how much actual intellectual freedom and yeah how much Intel actual intellectual freedom is there at Elite educational institution where you don't get completely shunned if unless you uh abide by uh what everyone else thinks and then what everyone else thinks is you're told what to think not ask that you know you're sort of you must think this it's not like you have freedom to think as and talk as you wish yeah um what's the solution for this I mean like obviously this is and and um and have truth be see what matters more than anything I mean I think it's funny that you know Harvard's motto and the Harvard standard is Veritas and

and the founders of the of Harvard were right to have that on their fields The Shield of truth but is Harvard The Shield of Truth today maybe not well you know we're all um our belief in Freedom to transact and obviously Jack was a big Bitcoin lightning guy um what can you comment on uh freedom to transact Bitcoin lightning Twitter anything we could we couldn't look forward to thank you well uh you know I think that's actually more powerful even than I think controlling then censorship which control of the monetary system um if you have control of the money monetary system and control the transaction you can literally stop someone from the you can stall people to death you know can throw them out of their homes so we have to be very careful about like

who is controlling the money system here and and what what rules and regulations are they going to put on on transactions it seems like PayPal has strayed pretty far from the path of that like they're I've been Banning seems to be moving in the direction of social credit and restricting transactions and uh you know so that's that's concerning so and like I do think there is a role for crypto in the future without speaking to any big particular crypto coin as a means of showing that the monetary system does not get completely corrupted it essentially it provides competition to the fiatric system so if the Fiat system becomes um overly restrictive then crypto will grow like basically the better that the Fiat works the the less prominent crypto will be and

the worst the fear system becomes the more crypto will grow are you concerned about the moves towards Central Bank digital currencies I don't think what they're talking about [Laughter] not really um a lot of people a lot of people have theorized that FTX and the Fallout there was a ploy to push us toward that centralization and the digital dollar ball and flatten its face now correct well yeah well this I think they're complaining a few things first of all all money is almost almost all money is digital already the the Fiat monetary system for practical purposes consists of a series of heterogeneous mainframes running uh Antiquated Cobalt that's the actual money system by the way it's kind of embarrassing some rickety mainframes running ancient Kobo

um and running and doing everything in batch mode um that's the actual monitories the Fiat monitories so I've got can you hear me first is it working now or no but it is digital oh [ __ ] but not not in a very good way whether Banks create some their own cryptocurrencies I think people will use the cryptocurrencies that they think will accrue value over time and not use the ones that that don't go to the Moon hey Elon could you could you shed some um spill the beans on the whole uh SPF finance and Twitter fundraise uh I it's not much that not many beans to spill here the I had one conversation with SPF in May it was like half an hour he was just talking like a mile a minute uh I think he was clearly on some stimulants and uh and he kept talking about

himself uh and FDX and which is weird because the call was supposed to be about Twitter um and I was like you know should you want to ask me some questions about Twitter instead of talking about yourself the vibe I got there was like my [ __ ] meter like with redlining so I'm like but everyone kept saying you know Morgan Stanley and lots of other people kept saying oh SPF is the best and he's got tons of money and so that's why I agreed to speak to him but then I my like I said he set up my [ __ ] meter and but which frankly I don't think this was like deeply deep inside wasn't necessary if if someone's calling you to talk about investing it in a big transactions they should be asking questions about the transaction not talking about themselves and and

and talking at the speed of an Auctioneer so that doesn't require deep insight to figure out that the devotion factor is high he didn't end up with with any client funds accidentally yeah so unfortunately Mario is having connection issues so you're unable to hear him and Mario I was going to say my DMs are open if you want to relay comments or questions for Elon there and I can try to help field those and also Alex is one of the accounts that was wrongfully suspended by Twitter and you fortunately brought back I wanted to give him the opportunity to ask you a question because he's had his hand up if that's okay okay sure hey um we can't hear you Alex yeah mutant on mute just so we can hear Alex because I think elon's background noise is muting Alex hey

Elon muskimi so yes I'm telling him that he can't find you that's okay just give me me one second here real quick um Elon you you said something you know really important and that is that truth matters and uh you know this is really what this is all about because without Free Speech we don't have truth and I would like to ask you what is your opinion about Julian Assange and Edward Snowden shouldn't those guys uh be a center stage when it comes to free speech and truth you know shortened the US government leave Julian Assange alone and let him be a journalist you know I I don't know enough about the Assange situation um to give an accurate answer um I mean there are things where you know uh that we're national security stuff is involved you know I think

do you need to be kept secret in just because you know uh you know there's like nuclear secrets that there are you know the things where Bad actors if they had access to that information could do bad things so yeah but when when a journalist exposes war crimes right when a government just goes and invades the country and kills people you know against international law like when exposures like this are being made isn't that important so people see the reality of wars and understand how some of that stuff is really bad yeah I mean I generally think that people should like so that that people should have be able to know what's going on in order to make sensible decisions uh and I'm not I just don't know enough about the Islam situation to say whether you

know should be punished or not punished uh but I I do think that I'm generally in favor of Freedom of Information and and like if there's any doubt we should lead on the side of Freedom of Information and how about how about Equity Snowden who has revealed these Mass surveillance program where the government is spying on everyone and storing all their data in these massive spy clouds also against the law you know where the five eyes are working together to undermine the logo the local laws and their local restrictions on spying and they just spy on each other and then share the data so that they know everything about everyone how do you feel about that probably the best thing would be a jury of the public you know if so if Snowden were to be I don't know

look I have power on this situation but ultimately the people of the United States should be the ones who judge Snowden not not you know select people in the government if a jury of of of of peers of citizens were to review certain and make a judgment as to whether he's guilty or not I think that would probably be the appropriate course of action yeah the only problem is that if he were to be in in a U.

S court he wouldn't get a fair trial because uh under Espionage acts laws you cannot even make a public interest defense he wouldn't even be able to say I've done that because it's the right thing for American to know about that so that would be a defense that is not available to him so to say you know a jury of your peers should be excited about that that's the problem yeah I I don't know I mean there's no easy answer to the Snowden Islam situation and I but yeah can I make a suggestion Elon why don't you do a poll to your millions of users and ask them if they think Julian Assange and Edward Snowden should be given their peace for the service that they have provided to humanity okay that's a good idea sure I like that idea I'm going to ask a question

on Mario's half really quick since he's unable to speak to Elon which has to be extremely frustrating as the host he was just curious if you faced any pressure so far since releasing the Twitter files um I mean I face pressure all the time so it's kind of it would be like what's the differential in pressure before and after because I I don't but I'm not I haven't seen it yet I don't know maybe there's pressure but I I might not just not be feeling it because I just just every day is the high pressure situation but uh I don't know what like I said we're just gonna uh put all the information out there try to get a clean slate and then work iteratively in the future to provide the most truthful accurate and timely uh information people that will be the goal

of of Twitter and we won't be perfect in that regard but I think we will be iteratively better um and and if if that turns out if we're successful in doing so then I think Twitter will will compete more effectively than any other source of information and then more and more people will use Twitter um and and that and then that competitive pressure will force other social media companies and and other media companies to also be more truthful because otherwise they will simply lose their readership and that I think is extremely powerful and good Vision could you say a little bit perhaps about what Twitter is expected to maintain as an API to say the Department of Homeland Security in general the FBI maybe sees it in particular is there an expected way in

which the government can jack in to social media that's expected on behalf of each of the big media platforms and is that sort of different I don't know how to say this exactly but the issue of left versus right is Complicated by the fact that Trump is a non-player to the game just the way Bernie might have been considered a non-player to the game and the secondary question is how much of this isn't about left versus right but about targeting anyone who isn't a party to all of the tacit agreements inside DC [Music] um can you still hear us Elon Elon you're still there I hope so no he's disconnected it says disconnected for me at least oh I'll invite him I'll invite him again okay oh he's back he's back that's a Pity that he couldn't hear you man that

is just yes please no it's fine man it's fine like you know me I'm gonna be listening I'm happy listening can you guys see me at least yeah Dara thanks for asking the question I really I was really curious about it uh but it says for me he's still a speaker can anyone see him as a speaker I can see him he's not speaking ah last time last time he was here Kim you were there I think Kim you commented and he joined um he when we co-hosted him remember Kim we co-hosted him and it froze someone yeah I think he's dropped off now yeah I'll send him I'll send him an invite a few people um got kicked off stage um not even by you came just by themselves they'll just goes give you a heads up Twitter's glitches what's your take while waiting for Elon guys guys what's

your take so I'll find what Elon has said because there's a few pretty big things you mentioned the worry that he has just to summarize what he said right I mean his main goal clearly is that the truth is out there that it has value again and that Twitter needs to make a stand for free speech which he is doing now and he is aware of the risk to him personally and his businesses so it's a very courageous thing for him to do and I think you know anyone who had any doubt about what his intentions are when he bought Twitter I think it's pretty clear that what he's doing is in the interest of the people and not necessarily in his own best interests so I find that amazing and I applaud him for that yeah and while waiting uh while waiting of the end of another

invite what do you guys think of his um I know he was I'm not sure he's saying it as a joke but he's sick you know secure dirty fear if you're on his on his security and I think I don't think he has anything really to worry about I mean I don't think anyone's gonna really gonna come at him right now because it'd be too obvious why they'll be going after him so I think he's quite safe and he does have security so personally I'm not concerned although at the same time you know there's uh he does have security for a reason right he is the world's richest man so um there's that but I'm not really I don't think it it's going to be different than any other day there's nothing that he's revealing now that is you know that damaging to you know any specific person

right it's like uh he's he's more or less just giving people the platform for for free speech and the people who are most affected by this are journalists who you know what do they have to lose well their reputations for one but they've already thrown it away so I don't think it's you know I don't think he really has this uh to worry about his personal safety I don't think it's going to be that dire Elana just to let you know Elon is listening now um I've sent you through an invite you should see it via DM um so I sent you through the invites to come back on stage so uh hopefully it works it might take a bit of time because space is glitching like crazy yeah for everyone else everyone else yeah go ahead Mario there's some backfeed coming from you I'm

not sure if you have your uh audio playing in the background but there I can hear you twice I don't know if anyone else is having that issue oh I can hear him twice okay I'll try to fix it by the way everyone I'm just gonna tweet the next space link now to set your reminders for the next space I'll fix my audio Kim I feel like it's yours yeah let's hope that Elon comes back is if he has a chance I mean first of all how amazing is that that he joins us from his private chat you know to be part of it because of this space it's just typical Elon it's so cool I mean it's a historical moment right I mean he's a part of it I mean he's he's the part of it so I mean thank you he's he's back guys just FYI he's back Elon let me see if he can hear me this time [Music]

uh yeah can you hear me yes yeah I'm glad I'm glad you can hear me I'm glad you can hear me again um so I think Kim you were asking a question now I was just saying how cool it is that you talk to us from your uh private jet you know we really appreciate it it's like a typical Elon moment and we're just all in awe about you you know taking these risks uh to your business and to yourself to fight for free speech so I said to to everyone who had doubts about your intentions when you bought Twitter uh you're making your intentions very clear and I think it's very courageous of you and I want to thank you for that uh no you're most welcome I mean like I said the you know the proof will be in the pudding over time there will be many mistakes made um and uh

but iteratively I think the the the net Vector should be towards truth if sort of new Twitter is successful in that then the results will be that people will turn to Twitter to understand what is true what is real what what narratives matter Twitter will gain a lot of you know readership and attention and and and it'll be put a lot of competitive pressure on mainstream media and on other social media companies to also be more truthful um because otherwise they'll they will simply keep losing people to to Twitter and and that's where the competition can be a very very good thing um and but it's not going to be perfect and there'd be going to be decisions that you know people disagree with but on balance the overall decisions are ones that people do agree

with and they will gravitate towards Twitter and Twitter will be successful and will gain share from from from other uh social media and and it will cause those other sources of media to then uh stop Towing the line and and and to sort of be more truthful what's your uh just a quick question Elon what's the biggest risk in your opinion from the steps you've taken in terms of releasing the files do you see any risks for for Twitter um I mean I guess would probably be some yeah we'll be surprised at some lawsuits or something you know yeah I would expect there to be some legal risk what's important that's that's the last thing that's less of a concern than you know clearing the air and and and uh making sure that that people are both you know don't know

what really happened and uh the the the metrics the Twitter metrics show that it seems like it's the right decision by far not only ethically but from from a business perspective as well uh that you keep hitting new records yeah exactly so like I said it's it's one as as it becomes clear and that that Twitter is the place to actually figure out what's going on and get the unfiltered narrative the unfortunate truth also for the people of Twitter to be able to to suggest narratives and steer this you know and and emphasize narratives themselves um and have things not be controlled like it is with the so-called mainstream media where you know the narrative is controlled by a handful of editors and Chiefs you know if they see the Wall Street Journal New York

Times and Washington Post and maybe a few others decide what the narrative is and so even if what they say is completely truthful um the people that really get a choice in in what topics are covered whereas on Twitter they do and and and uh you know like it could be something really important on the world and and then uh the big news organizations aren't covering it but on Twitter the people can decide what narratives are important and what should be emphasized and what should you know yeah so so that's cool can I mention something really quick that can I just mention something really quick I can hear you okay is that you I'm just going to ask a quick question I'm sorry what Twitter is doing or what you are doing what you're planning to allow uh people

to have more ability to publish their own stories on Twitter because you know right now we just have tweets right yeah but uh like what are your plans for say video publication or article publication uh things to incentivize you know creators and journalists independent journalists to be able to have their voices heard it for more than just streets yeah absolutely I mean these are all like very obvious moves one needs to be able to pump obviously post long form content on Twitter they when it needs to be able to post long long videos and long audio uh on Twitter natively and there also needs to be of monetizing that so that creators can you know make a living those are I I feel like I'm saying that the you know the sky is blue and the grass is green you

know there's pretty obvious stuff and in order to implement those things um Twitter needs to have a strong software engineering organization that is focused on shipping grade code um and uh you know was quite a mess before and that registered will have a strong engineering to be able to implement those those basic features you know that even if there are lots of limitations Apple um well then where they can post it on Twitter and then Twitter Can Be an Effective competitor to YouTube um and then like I said what happens with when there's competition for with the truth and everyone and and one company steps out of line you know it actually really really disallowed the you know truth to flourish it it's it's going to put a lot of competitive pressure on

other organizations to do the same thing can you talk about whether or not the effort to supposedly pre-bunk Mal information which is to take real information and then if it's Imaging to a narrative to put fear uncertainty and doubt around it is there a an attempt through the Department of Homeland Security or the FBI or Cesar any of these groups to tell Twitter that it has to maintain a port so that information can come from the government to say we need this information prebunct well I mean if if there is any sort of request from the US government that is not in accordance with the law or can be legally fought uh Twitter will refuse legal and it's full weekly such that it can be but but we cannot gag the voice of the people this is not good um and and

like I said earlier it's like you look at look at I I read a lot of history I love love history and I love history podcasts and stuff hardcore history is the best one Hardcore History Dan Colin is so awesome fantastic start with the Mongol start with the Mongols yeah but it's like you look through instrumented and it's like we're just we have this pressure we're in this precious situation where like it's rare a new situation where there's actually you know I mean within boundaries there's there is actually freedom of speech but it's written in history um and usually it's like been some king or whatever that's just they were just by default and now we have this like rare moment in history where the voice of the people um is mostly not suppressed but now

there are people trying to suppress it and we just find really hard for for freedom of speech this is very I think essential future of civilization I absolutely agree with you I mean this is why you're fighting right this is why you know you're fighting for free speech so that we can have it in the future because if we don't have control of the present we do not have control for future it will be in the control of somebody else someone that we absolutely do not want to be in control of anything yeah exactly just as much time in there you know there are a lot of people in in the last decade that have lost hope because uh what's happening in politics what's happening in the media there's so much frustration and I think the most important thing that you've

done here Elon with your steps that you are taking is to give people hope again well great I mean I'm really glad to hear that and like I said I'll do my best here um you know I'm definitely going to make some mistakes along the way and it won't be perfect but I'll also then do my best to correct those mistakes and and to be you know the least done possible because as I say rocks popular box today man it's like yeah I mean it's a very white pilling moment to have you fight this fight you know I mean a lot of us have been fighting this culture War for free speech basically and you know I think a lot of people have lost hope because they didn't see anyone caring about it right it's like the majority of people obviously do care but they just don't know what

to do and yeah it's true what what Kim said just to Echo what he said Thank You For Fighting this fight I mean this is very very important it's not just you it's not just me it's all of us absolutely yeah I mean I'm like I mean I I I'm like sort of you know worried about the future of civilization uh you know like are we headed in a good good good direction like if you study history you sort of see like the arc The Arc of civilizations the rise and fall you know with the Sumerians the ancient Egyptian in in India and China they've been many sort of rise and Falls of civilizations within India and China and it's just like people sometimes take for granted that because they've been in in an upcycle things just get better in the future and they don't just

automatically get better um uh they actually so civilizations tend to have an arc we want to make sure that we we do not find ourselves on the downslope of that Arc you know good times make weak men right and we are in the good times right now and we're seeing a lot of black men right like that's where we are in this Ark and it sucks so let's try not to repeat the same cycle we need to fight the cycle yeah exactly exactly you know not to sort of get like two I mean too philosophical about things here but there is there is like sort of a you know I've had these discussions with like a lot of people and I feel like wondering like what's the meaning of life like what should we do like what why do anything you know um and uh you know for some people that

answer is religious but then if you're not sort of very religious then then what what is the answer actually my theory on that is that I I sort of believe in Douglas Adams philosophy the universe like the the universe is the answer and we should strive through greater understanding uh with to expand the scope and scale of Consciousness to better understand what questions to ask about the answer that is the universe you know it's it's basically a religion of curiosity uh like let's let's uh grow into the future expand in the future expand Consciousness expand our understanding and um and and uh figure out what that's going on and um number 42 as well and also you know don't panic and and make sure you grab a towel without without giving away too much really

quick Elon is there any way to get a sneak peek of what what we can expect with the next uh Twitter files drop [Music] well I'm someone leaving this up to Matt tyvee and Barry Weiss um but um I think the natural thing would be to say like okay what happened after the the election you know the 100 dividing laptop stuff and by the way I actually don't I I this may sound bizarre but uh it's kind of fun to be honest um I know it yeah he's an artist do you know that he seems like he seems like he knows how to have a good time dividing him but so uh if it but just beyond the um you know what happens what happened after the election you know how much government influence was there you know there's like there's this whole sort of move to create a disinformation

Ministry which was insane um and like George Orwell is turning in his grave he hears those things but but like what happened with you know was that you know I think there was a public outquire about like this information yeah started that one he basically stopped it in his tracks because before that nobody knew that this was even a thing right and you exposed it and suddenly everybody was talking about it and they had to shut it down because it was very orwellian it was like they use 1984 as a instruction manual exactly totally exactly 1984 is 1984 supposed to be a warning Notch and instruction manual yep and that's what they seem to be doing they take every single you know dystopian fiction whether it's CSX I love that game and and they're like yeah

this world looks awesome that's the press the hell out of people it's like no let's not do that exactly totally even speaking speaking of uh progress you've accomplished so much you started the first successful American car company in 100 years uh you brought payments to the internet there's a lot of aspiring um entrepreneurs and small business owners that look at what you do and sort of try to you know follow that example and see how can they create some of that progress too and I wanted to ask you a little bit about the layoffs because um it appeared to be with the four million dollar loss per day and just doing the math on the billion dollars of interest expense that three million dollars of that may have been interest expects added and and I myself

running a small business had been in a situation where you know the business was going to go under in a number of months if expenses weren't cut you know and and what we found is communicating to employees giving them time to process getting their feedback and then you know creating a shared vision and to evolve the product to evolve the company to it to a greater future was was really successful and it appears here that the typical like Leverage buyout KKR uh approach was basically applied from a financial standpoint you know for a small business owner like you know is that approach wrong like did you think about taking that approach um you know with that ever under consideration yeah I apologize like like is not it's not it's not I'm not fully hearing

the questions um but you know with respect to Twitter uh you know the the company uh basically triple head count in about two years a little over two years but but revenue is flat to declining so that there's just no way that that is uh going to be a healthy situation so the first order of business with Twitter was like okay we got to make sure Twitter doesn't die that doesn't go bankrupt the there is quite a lot of debt on this deal 12 and a half billion of debt um and Ted is being extremely unwise in its very giant uh rate increases I think this is these will go down to some of the most foolish fed decisions ever but anyway so the death's got to be serviced and uh yeah KKR and other private Equity companies that you know do any anything from a hostile

takeover you know or any sort of takeover where they where they bid over the current price using leverage using debt you know I've been following that for years and it always results in massive layoffs and so as somebody who's by the way I don't say anybody cares about that I don't think that matters right now and I was going to say as long as they keep moving the bar and changing the definition of a recession we are where we are right back on topic here you know I mean we have Elon we don't need to talk about you know his Investments and things like that um Iran uh we should send a shout out to the Twitter spaces team because you're about to break the all-time record with the space we're almost at 100 000 listeners right now yes we are man talking about

talking about spices you know what's the strategy moving forward awesome look I I have to tell you that there are really some amazing people at Twitter um and uh there's actually some amazing people who actually left Twitter uh in recent years uh and I hope they come back um uh because I think there's a potential to just build some amazing things here so you know I don't want to just I want to be exactly complimentary of the some of the the great work that is being done on Twitter um so you know it's sort of you know it's sort of like I mean there's a lot to criticize about Twitter and say like okay we're wasting money really some negative ways but also people who really care about the truth of Twitter um and I'm doing my best to elevate their capabilities

and um and give them all the resources they need I am very excited about Community note uh this feature you know Keith Coleman's running it and there's like a some really first-rate Engineers that are are writing the code on that on their product that is I think going to be very powerful for fighting for actually fighting disinformation not not okay please see that if we're not if we're not enrolled in community notes right like right now uh the rest of the world isn't right it's just the United States and I think Canada to my knowledge but uh can you at least make it visible to other people so even if we're not able to contribute we can at least view it because yeah I feel kind of left out him in I'm in Malaysia so you know it's kind of hard to see it

yeah actually I I actually I I asked that I I sent a note to Keith Holmes saying like hey shouldn't we just at least make this visible everywhere um and then he said if we needed to talk in person about that but I'm not sure what okay ELO we did we did want to say on the Twitter spaces um during the blowout of SPF and FTX all the other companies in crypto there's been massive Financial losses for um many people obviously um but Twitter spaces actually became the place that drove the community together and we were we've been sharing lots of stories there were people that were suicidal because of the financial loss and because of the community and Twitter spaces um they've prevented them taking their life there's lots and to add to it as well Elon last

time if you remember when you joined the space about Sam and that space ended up going for 16 hours and for three four days the media was in our space getting the news from the space for four days five days straight and then writing stories on it day after day and I think Simon was there Kim was there so it was a as I think it's the first time it happens to that extent on Twitter spaces and and we're probably doing it again today yeah and this type of Citizen journalism that you are enabling is uh so powerful you know because we are the news now if people want to learn the truth they go to Twitter and join these spaces you know it's like real time uh with experts it's fantastic and then we have people like you joining in and and sharing their opinions

and their thoughts what is more powerful than that the traditional media can pack and and it's game over for them would you ever consider holding a space for earnings for Tesla I'm right here live on Twitter [Music] um oh man I have to say you're being Tesla being a public company it just creates it such a gigantic attack surface for all for legal firms in the uh in the US especially these class action firms that that yeah that seems like a bad idea I've been to faces I've been to spaces other CEOs held uh and they did their earnings live right on Twitter and I thought I'm happy to do it yeah so you've made you've made Elon you've just made two promises you've made two promises man now you've made this one and you've made one to Kim about the I'm out

I'm out you made a promise to Kim about the poll and now you made a promise to hold the uh the Tesla uh meter here on spaces so just I'll remind you afterwards about it as well yeah so I've been getting a lot of questions from people who are just bombarding me just to ask you right because you know we're in the space they're asking what are you going to do about the shadow Banning situation because like I'm personally a search band I'm not Shadow band but I'm search band and I'm not sure what's even up with them yeah I mean but if I said I've only been on the job like a month guys so uh just uh there's definitely I've got a long list of things to do um a general um we need to say like your account could actually just tell you you are a search band or

you are de-boosted or whatever it is and and why and what the process is for fixing that um now now the best week I should tell you that that we did we were probably a little overzealous and that's if anything that's that's my fault because we I'm just trying to get rid of the damn uh scams and spam and Bots and stuff um and so in in trying to stamp out or reduce the the Bots bam scam stuff uh there will be some false positives uh so uh so that's just week but uh to be taking I know it was like it's going to be an iterative Journey towards towards truth and towards a healthier system at any given point it will be broken but it will be moving as quickly as possible towards a good place and I encourage people to you know complain about it and whatnot uh

but uh it's just it will it will move it early iteratively towards a good place that's the goal and again they move pretty fast so on the net the vector some of those to say um over time I'm losing him yeah I make him check my checking check my DMs Kim check my DMs because I'm having glitches so I might need your help with a few things hey long yep yep oh you're back another another question I think you've made a reference once to WeChat um I think that was a while ago and I don't recall it correctly is does that reference still stand today is that a potential vision for Twitter yeah I'll just use a functionality that Twitter should have um like it's a kind of a no-brainer for Twitter to have payments uh both fiat currency and crypto and to make that

that and simple for people to use uh as talked about earlier adding uh the ability to post long form written content and video content and to be able to monetize that easily and um and I have a playlist you know like YouTube does yeah um my focus in the first month and and also will be the case in December is is just making sure that that twit that Twitter is operating efficiently as a company that um it is not that is not wasting money um because it it faces challenges on the revenue front from you know with an over-dependence on Advertising that is not targeted uh like brand advertising and and in in a market where advertising Revenue in general is dropping um and then also when you start questioning the status quo then you know various pressure groups

start pressuring advertisers to not advertise with you so that's another you know Challenge on the revenue front and then you've got the debt and and the the debt has now has a very high interest rate so it's like these are a lot of challenges simultaneously to that um I think we'll you know we'll solve these challenges but these are a lot of things to solve so the first order of business is just get Twitter healthy um make sure its expenditures are reasonable um that um you know Twitter Twitter's like primarily a software company there are obviously Design Elements but it's primarily software and servers and so like is the software team organized well those that are committing code committing good code and just that making the engine of engineering work

at Twitter because if you look at say like what is Twitter's Evolution technology Evolution over time excluding Acquisitions it's been very low it's the technology of Twitter has been very slow and there's an edit button yeah exactly the edit button look I mean if it takes a year to do an edit button and the edit button still doesn't work properly then you can have a million good ideas but they're irrelevant because you can't Implement so Elon uh I've got a quick question for you my friend um I was removed from this okay I want to test my mic can you guys hear me um I can hear you um maybe can you hear me Alex we can we can hear um yeah guys okay does Alex want to go and then I can go can you hear me yeah okay so my question was if the the files are those

also going to include other content others so basically all those pages uh yeah this is a bit of an audio [ __ ] show let's try and get this back on the road I unmuted everyone and I muted everyone I'm going to unmute those who are not talking uh just mute yourself please I would like to ask Elon a quick question trying this again I think Alex just did and he was ready to respond he just now would have to unmute himself to respond to Alex yeah I was just wondering if all accounts that were requested to have things taken down by the DNC and by the Biden campaign even ones that have nothing to do with the hunter Biden laptop if they will also be released um yes um the uh intended to release uh all the files um so it's not like anything that's hidden or

anything I can't hear anybody hey dropped out is my mic good Kim by the way is am I Mike okay Alex I mean I think this is you know this is like whatever Saucy files or your Truth and Reconciliation like Nelson Mandela would say you know it's it's if you want reconciliation there must be truth that's that's the intention intent here is to just make make it clear what was happening and provide transparency about the past and in doing so to build trust about the future awesome so do you think that Twitter could also like have an automatic um notification if anyone was stay up their account was requested confident taken down do you think there could be something like that yeah like the VPN sites actually offer that foreign [Music] request content takedowns

that are embarrassing then they'll be less likely to request those content take them um you know at the end of the day it doesn't have a choice but to abide by the laws of you know the US and and whatever countries is operating uh you otherwise get arrested um we shouldn't do more than that to be abide by the laws because you have to um and uh you know if maybe there may be some potential to say like well if we disagree with the law maybe we can Bobby to have a little change or something like that but um so Elon I want to ask you on this point um go ahead sorry no I I'm just gonna like saying like the the overarching goal here is that um on balance that that Twitter be a force for good for the future of civilization um that and and for the expansion of

of Consciousness So to that point I want to ask you then because I'm speaking from the European lens um what do you think about the eu's proposals over potential restrictions um or equally um I know you had a little bit of a uh should we say Fanfare with Alex finman earlier this week um I was wondering if you would be interested in a space with you and him since I know him uh from the week ago we had a chat I invite you too if you'd be interested if you'd be interested don't don't waste your time with the intelligence Community seriously yeah I'm teasing but I'm I am curious about your thoughts on the European Union perspective um well yeah actually there's a lot of the the EU rules call call for things that I agree with uh transparency and and an ability

for people for users to appeal uh and have a clear process so I think I you know in terms of the Digital Services act I think I think it's uh it's mostly good I think we have to watch the implementation of it and make sure the implementation does not uh is not um you know bad for the the people of Europe but the actual um you know I think most of what is in there I I agree with you know because it's transparency and accountability uh it seems quite sensible um we just need to make sure that that is not warped in a bad Direction but uh generally I you know I agree with it um or at least what I know of it today um allow governments to Define what misinformation or disinformation is right I mean that is probably the most dangerous if development to give

governments that kind of power that they become the deciders of what truth and what is not yeah no that that's that is a big deal I agree that is that's that's that goes to the heart of the situation you don't want to have governments and especially it may not even be sort of it may not be an elected official maybe someone who is uh potentially a mid-level executive in a Ministry people don't even know exists and was never elected uh despite being in a democratic country what about the kind of protesters um what role do you think that Twitter can have in helping to support Iran Ukraine China and other countries that are facing you know uh technological oppression and limitation in their access to freedom of speech well uh I mean yeah like I said we'll

do whatever is possible within the bounds of the law you know I have a kind of a personal question and I've been curious you know was there a Breaking Point that made you decide do you want to buy Twitter that's a good question um I was hoping you would say the child exploitation that you you've done more to get rid of in the past month than they did in the past 10 years on Twitter and I wanted to thank you for that and I'm sorry that the media has completely snubbed you on mentioning the fact that you guys have gone above and beyond to make that happen and Eliza blue thank you for your work and efforts there yeah I'd like to say thank Eliza blue I would like to thank Andrea as well I think we've actually had in this is actually like a really good case

of of you know crowdsourcing of having people on Twitter actually help us solve the child exploitation stuff it's actually it is it is true um yes Twitter has done more to stop child exploitation last month than probably the last 10 years that's insane it kind of blows my mind frankly and we're going to keep doing it and it's always going to be number one I mean it's like kids can't defend themselves so we must Mario we can't hear you no you you sound like you're like a mosquito now sounds like he's in the toilet to be honest Elon do you still have plans to drop the W everyone is asking um I I mean technically the poll did come out positive on that um so the people have spoken I know so the people have not spoken there but most of my question like I don't

think you answered that like uh I want to know like what was the breaking point I think a lot of people want to know this one like what was the breaking point that made you want to buy Twitter okay first of all I suppose I I if if Twitter had been if I'd been able to to buy Twitter sooner than I I might have actually done that you know that we're a situation where my liquidity was enough and Twitter's value is you know with with whether you know there's essentially a closing price like would I actually have that wasn't the case until recently um but I I guess the it just felt like it really had been building for for some time so I wouldn't say there was like it wasn't like a step change suddenly this is a one thing it's not like Oh The Babylon B got banned

that's why I bought Twitter that would be crazy it's more that they they just seem to be like this more and more group thing amongst the media um more and more uh sort of Towing the line amongst digital social media company basically just we're traveling the path more and more of suppression of free speech um and this was just getting me concerned it's like the trends were just very very bad um so unless something was done to reverse this trend against Free Speech then I felt well maybe you know some point everything will just get cut off and unless you're in agreement with whatever the group think is you're just going to be ostracized or your voice will be shut off so like I said it wasn't any one thing it was just it was just like okay and I could I

can't exactly say why because it's like one of those things where it's like it might it's just that my biological neural net uh you know that's important to buy Twitter and if you you know to stuck with a digital neural net you can't really exactly explain why the neural net is able to understand or text or just say that that the collective result of the neural net says that this is an important action uh though or this is the right action and my biological neural net concluded that it was important to buy Twitter and then if Twitter was not bought and steered in a good direction it would be a danger for the future of civilization and so that's why I that's why I bought it that's brilliant American you mentioned the biological neural net and the digital

neural net when is the a neural link to be ready to copy our Consciousness into account please whatever where can I sign up for it because I would love to have my my brain augmented you know it's like cyberpunk yeah exactly just going full cyberpunk at this point uh yeah um the other side to that to that um I'm sure you're familiar with Doctor Who right and the Cyber men and this idea of a centralized system by which you can influence people's thoughts is that not a consideration that you have on your radar if you get where I'm coming from well I mean frankly on the on the the neural neural are there neural link front if I look at the pace at which artificial intelligence is improving versus the pace at which neurolink is a progressing artificial intelligence

is moving much faster than the neural link is moving because as soon as anything gets done with humans it gets very slow because of the danger to humans I mean for the next few years neurolink is really just focused on storing movement to people that have a broken neck or spine and restoring Vision so as restoring movement and vision it's not uh you know uploading memories or controlling thoughts or anything like that it's pretty basic stuff it's like the early days of computers you know it's basically but it's life-changing though right I mean being able to see if you you're born blind that is there's a gift that I don't think you know anyone would pass up that would be amazing yeah and that's that's very doable you know what I'm saying about neuralink

is that you'll be able to see anything in your links doing you'll be able to see coming from very far off like like because you've got to go through the whole FDA device approval process if that takes ages to evaluate the safety in humans that takes a long time so it basically is very slow compared to the development of digital super intelligence very fast for a long time that we want to be more cautious in the development of digital super intelligence you know this represents the danger to the public and just as we have other regulatory agents uh oversee dangers of the public like the FDA or the FAA or you know any one of a number of FCC if there's you know you have to you can't just have companies as going Hog Wild developing digital super intelligence

with no oversight do you potentially see this happening in a country where there are no oversights you know where the governments allow the you know scientists to do to go Hog Wild as you said well [Music] look we there's there's the things we can control the things we can't control and I think the there should be some kind of oversight um you know North America and Europe which is where a lot of the AI Innovation is happening there should be some kind of oversight Beyond nothing which is currently the case we are from uh General artificial intelligence like what is your time frame you think until we have the big the big deal I mean I think it's it's happening very fast you see like AGI is defined by where where digital super intelligence is smarter than

the smartest human but what is your definition of AGI yeah exactly I mean once once the AI is able to basically program itself and understands how to uh how to advance itself that would be the level where we need to start to worry right yeah um we're yeah um I mean what about this you know last year after the pandemic we had the the great resignation and now there's the concern about the replacement of traditional labor jobs with you know Ai and machine technology I think it was you uh you know I saw the video deep in the capacity for it to control things with its mind it's not a concern about the potential impact it has on you know very menial jobs in the uh you know those people who don't have necessarily the skills or ability to retrain that quickly

just you know how can we uh plan in advance to minimize the consequence sorry the audio the audio is like not not good right now so um oh no worse we can have another space sometime in the future to talk about AI because I think that is one of the big topics uh you know where a lot of people don't really realize how big uh the risk of ai ai is and what you are always uh asking for is you know more regulation better rules in order to prevent the worst case scenario of yeah an AGI taking over and basically wiping out like an artist and an artist in the job you know I mean mid-journey has basically replaced graphic artists for book covers you know you don't need a book artist anymore you can just do it with AI not not to change the subject back to the Twitter

files but Kim I just want to ask Elon a quick question about section 230 are you concerned about that now and what the government could essentially due to section 230 as a result of the flattening that you're creating at Twitter and all the truth that you're you're pushing out in the objectivity well I I think it is I said I just said to say this on Twitter publicly it is good that that we we actually that the house will be Republican you know it's like it's not it's generally not a good idea if the U.

S if the if the house senate and executive branch are all of one party then then you have to sort of situation so it's good to have uh at least one of those branches the other party um because then they will then then they will check the worst excesses of both parties so I think um you know I think it's good that the house will be Republican you know and this is and people to interpret that as like oh I must be some huge Republican or something it's like no I'm a huge moderate actually is what I am it's just like I wish people would curiously moderate uh but I advise the nature of being moderate is not it does not lend itself you know you cannot be it's like be fanatically moderate but but fanaticism I think some YouTubers like to say right be a radical

Centrist yeah um so so it's just like like you want to have the government pass laws that are in the best people not that that are interested that are in the interest of a small segment of the people and uh you know so that's why I think if you like mixture of parties in control then then then they will pass only things that sort of are the intersection of sets of what both parties agree on which is more likely to be in the interest of the people so so I think I guess I feel pretty okay about that uh section 230 stuff yeah Elon um can you just quickly guys can you can you hear me now I know yeah I've just got I've just got I've just yeah I've just got I've got great speakers that just came up because now it's not glitching for me anymore so I've just

welcomed Clayton uh Patrick Davis on stage as well and there's more speakers about to come up that all of you would know now my space is working so guys uh feel free to jump in and ask Elon any questions hey thank you thank you so much if you want to retry the co-host thing to Mario yeah go ahead to Clay and then Patrick correctly hey thanks Elon this is Clayton from redacted um one of the stories we've been covering on our show over the past couple of months is the Dr shiva's lawsuit uh he was banned from Twitter running for the Senate from Massachusetts and one of the things in his lawsuit that was uncovered was the back end government portal to both Facebook and Twitter that they trusted Twitter partnership um and I know on Twitter's blog that trusted

Twitter partnership between Twitter and someone with a government email information and to basically have a Town's band taken down is that portal is that trusted partnership still available to the government and given what you've released in the Twitter files does it make sense for that to still be there um I gotta dig into this uh thing you know obviously that has like some big brother Vibes will adhere to the low um but it will not do you know it's not going to go beyond the law uh and and if there are laws that seem that don't seem to be the interest of the people then Toyota will question but I'll dig into this trusted partnership thing kind of what's going on um I do what's rejected and I love you and your wife you're doing an amazing job so keep

it going Eric did you have a Eric Sebastian did you have a question yeah yes maybe a follow-up to to the prior question Elon in the Twitter in the aisles of things that you found did you find any relationship between Facebook and any other Tick Tock whoever whomever with regards to what could be considered you know the collusion with with a certain um political parties was it was it another was there any collusion among other social media groups with Twitter um I've not directly seen that I'm not saying it doesn't exist but I've not seen it yet and in fact in terms of the Twitter files I Matt TV's read way more than I have like because my priority has been just getting Twitter healthy um and fixing uh Twitter engineering so that we can actually uh you

know uh release features at a high at a high rate you know that's been my priority on the Twitter front is we've got to get get Twitter to be in a financially healthy Place fix the engine of engineering so we can uh add the features and capabilities that are that are that are making much better and improve transparency and trust and all that so I actually don't even I I don't most of the stuff I I've read hardly any of the Twitter files uh Matt TV has and it very very wise is also getting access to it so you'll read it too um have you been in contact with any um of the other social platforms meta Google Etc since the release of the files has there been any pushback any concerns anything at all or it's been pretty quiet uh they haven't reached out to me

uh I'm not aware of any any Outreach from them um so I I guess look if if I think if this if it turns out this like stuff that the public should know about then we'll put it out there um and uh man Matt Vivian Barry Wise Hey listen whatever you see do you think public should know about it you just post it with regards to the dissemination of information so right now it's just matai being very wise do you have any uh plans to maybe give it give access to more journalists like say uh Ryan Sevilla daily wire technophobic you know I mean he's done lots of coverage on this stuff even previously so I'm sure they'd love to know uh yeah I think uh I mean maybe at some point we should just like put it all out there you know um uh so like I think in the beginning

it's it's good to have some coherence and um you know so it's not just a million stories all at once yeah it makes sense yeah it's a drip feed at first and then later on it's gonna be a flood right because otherwise it's just too many stories too much all at once in them people can't really focus on anything yeah it makes sense yeah you just you just get drowned out in the flood of things I think once once we think that the stories have the critical stories have been told then I think probably the right move is to just you know uh provide a data dump and then uh uh to go through it and see what was missed are you super are you surprised at all about the the the blowback against Matt taibi over the past 24 hours and a number of a number of uh liberal news

organizations a lot of liberal news reporters came out and really slammed Matt taibi which really was really shocking what was your response to that well I think those people should be looking in the mirror and wondering why they were deceptive why did they deceive the American public and and instead of trying to redirect blame to Matthew to be accepting some responsibility themselves for not being truthful to the American public it's Elon it's Mike Cohen here um congratulations on of course the acquisition of Twitter but my question to you is how are you going to go about combating the issue of Bot and Bot forms who create so much misinformation and hate on your platform the last thing I do I will defeat the damn Boston trolls um maybe they need like

a mind virus that purges them you know just makes them self-destructible yeah I mean it's War it's war and and we're going to win that war big time um the extent of the hatred that these Bots cause is astronomically and um it's really terrible but thank you for thank you for your commitment to that absolutely can I can I jump in and ask a question here Michael just real quick just real quick I wanted to say something about the box there are of course commercial Bots right people trying to do spam but the more dangerous spots are those that are trying to interfere in this course and uh you know try to manipulate the conversation and those are primarily run by governments right they're run by the intelligence community in different countries they're trying

to uh manipulate the way people are talking for example about Ukraine uh I think one of the more famous examples here are the so-called nafo Bots that are going out and shooting every month yeah often where them they're mixing it right so the intelligence Community does it in that way they have real people then they have Bots that are fully automated and then they even let their intelligence come Community employees work with Twitter profiles to chime in as well but all with one goal which is to manipulate the public discourse towards their goals and I think you experience that yourself when you spoke out for peace in Ukraine you were attacked by these same boss yeah no absolutely um like like I said you know I've been on the job a month I'm very good

at software I wrote software for 20 years and uh I was very good back in the day at defeating the the scammers and uh they were just like they were just the the Bad actors had free reign even before um they will not have that in the future um I look forward to that battle um and we will expose those who are acting uh to manipulate public opinion and shine a bright light on it fantastic hey uh Kim if I could just ask a quick question on that same topic because there was a point at which I was told by someone who apparently had access to this Discord server for these NATO uh or NATO trolls that I was among their top targets or even the number one target for a while so I'm just sort of a personal curiosity by the way this is Michael Tracy um yeah um and

so Elon I'm curious if you were able to detect or gauge any inauthentic activity on Twitter specifically related to this sort of pro Ukraine faction or you know is there was there a particular sort of system that kind of connects those actors that you were able to discern since you've taken the helm um well the the tools that Twitter currently has to detect large scale manipulation are quite strengthening that's why but in order for that for them to be strengthened we must like I said built the engine of engineering to be able to sort of see what's going on in the system I mean over and over again it's been it's like Twitter doesn't know what's going on in Twitter uh that that's actually the issue uh we need to build the tools that can analyze what's

going on and see where where is their evidence of large scale manipulation uh in order to to highlight it and I think even if it's not shut down if it is simply highlighted instead of wait a second these these accounts are all acting in concert they're acting in a way that is faster than a human could possibly coordinate uh this this appears to be a link of you know 100 000 Bots link that are all acting in concert and and just say and and expose them essentially but but those software tools need to be written um and they have not yet been written so but they will be it's cool so I can give them to you right Elon wouldn't it be easier if you were able to use some form of two-part authentication in order to ensure that the individual [Music] yeah oh you're

back yeah go ahead yeah Elon would it not be easier to just use some form of two-card authentication to ensure that the individual is who they say they are yes um now now that the the game plan with the sort of uh you know blue verified thing um is that that right now it is it is uh there are problems on many levels it's it's it's too cheap to have a bot so or and even a troll like like it's not just that somebody's operating a bunch of you know 10 000 instances um of of Twitter accounts you know you know in a bank of PCS you know uh it's it's it's like you can have a warehouse with and there are many parts of the world like Warehouse where there's just Banks of phones so there actually are operated by people the the the the the challenge right now so

the challenge is actually yeah you have to make it more expensive to to have um Bots and trolls it can't be like it's like a guy sitting in front of eight phones right that's just how they operate exactly the Farms are a guy sitting in front of headphones yeah like there's like well unfortunately the the disinformation uh budget for the CIA for the in our four parts is over a hundred million dollars I mean even if you throw eight dollars per month per account in front of them it's not is that really going to stop them uh not the eight dollars um the the if it was purely then I think it they could overcome a budget uh challenge but but the corporate but also then having to have a huge number of phones and a huge number of credit or debit cards is that

these all amplify the difficulty and and and then having if you want to do it do it such that that there's no that you can't find any connection between a hundred thousand phones and hundred thousand credit cards and a hundred thousand um you know authenticated phone numbers that's very difficult to do but just the the logistical difficulty of that is really high so it's more like you need to process some amount of money through the payment system in order to piggyback off the authentication of the payment system uh you know so eight dollars is kind of like a random number obviously um but but there's another thing that has to be accomplished simultaneously which is that uh Twitter cannot be like so heavily dependent on advertisers so this is an attempt

to kill two birds with one stone um which is that which is build it build a source of uh Revenue that that is not Advertiser dependent so if the advertisers have do not have too much uh sway over what happens on Twitter and also uh use the payment system as an additional means of identifying and stopping large-scale manipulation of the system in other words users are going to realize that these are low people right they're all verified individuals that will make them want to advertise on the site so it's it's winning hey let's win right yeah let's go hey Kim can I can I ask you a quick follow-up to my question would you mind okay I have to I have to just stop this for a second because everyone is talking over each other Elon just made a really important

point which is that um he has more freedom to do what is good for his users if he is less dependent on Advertising so there's a large group of people here I think everyone who appreciates what Elon is doing for us right now in this fight for freedom of speech should support him and the best way you can support him is to become a subscriber at Twitter you're using this great service all the time if you want him to have more power and more freedom to achieve these goals for us well you know make that eight dollar a month investment I think it's really worth it the price of a lot did Elon already say winning plans to reinstate the verification um the Eight dollar verification process I think he's gonna tell you because Kim muted everyone all right so it

seems to sometimes mute me I guess uh um yeah so the I I think we're probably about about a week away maybe uh basically this coming week we should be able to uh restart the verification process will it be Global or is it just the US still actually I'm just gonna discuss that with the team so this time for verification we're taking some additional steps where um you know one has to be a phone phone verified with a known good carrier an own good phone carrier um and uh and we're also well offer people the opportunity if they want to do ID verification kind of like what Airbnb does uh similar thing and they do that all around the world and then you then you'll be able to look at an account and say this account is payment verified it is verified it is ID

verified optionally and also to establish organizational affiliation do you actually have affiliation with this organization is and providing organizations with the ability to Define to to to to stay which set of users are affiliated with that organization so like are you actually a professor at Stanford or are you actually for example a reporter at the New York Times or whatever um or an employee of a you know uh PepsiCo or whatever it is you know just generally to have granularity and Nuance to what verified means as opposed to the sort of like grab grab bag of nons uh which has been the the past blue verified situation where you know you could have been an intern at Mashable 10 years ago and now but we verified and it's it's kind of crazy or or and

then they're also just being traded constantly uh you could just buy a verified badge so you can't you can't actually tell if somebody's proved for legacy blue you can't tell if it's if that is a legitimate situation A crypto scam whether they're actually or other you don't know because there's no granularity to it and there was there's no way to buy them off of Google right now like you can literally Google verified accounts and they sell them for like 200 500 or something right yes exactly exactly it's not like it's not not like you have to go to the in quotes dark web to to do to buy blue verified you can literally Google search it on it's on page one of the Google search results verified so so it's just basically it's just a quick verified in the

corruption um and and so we need to move forward with something that that is that gives granularity and and detail and Nuance about the nature of the verification and uh so that you can actually trust what you see Elon you said you want some really admirable things about uh freedom of speech and your commitment to it and its role in the future of humanity you didn't answer the question about supporting protesters in China and Iran is their freedom of speech freedom of speech for Chinese people important Humanity in China just so you know like Twitter is inaccessible in China you need a VPN so it's kind of a pointless question so you don't think making it accessible for Chinese or Iranian it doesn't matter because a lot of people are confused that uh it's

a First Amendment issue what was dumped um by Matt tabi the First Amendment concerns government suppression so anything that happened before January the 20th isn't First Amendment unless it was the Biden Administration afterwards so for those who think that you know we've got the Smoking Gun and they don't need to wait for anything else if you address that issue Mr muscle yeah I mean what first of all actually there there are issues if um if there's electric interference before the government because uh uh you know that that's that that's uh that that is I think an issue certainly uh would appear that Twitter falsely claimed that there was not uh interference um but right but that that has to that has to do with in-kind contributions that's a very different

kind of thing and it is it is Criminal but but can you tell us if there's you know there will be more smoking guns coming yeah I think there will be more smoking guns because the obvious next question is well what happened after the election exactly exactly yeah I mean that's probably the right thing for episode two um is what happened after the election and how do we have to wait for episode two I don't know check with Matt yeah we'll just quickly we'll go ahead will no thank you Elon apologies if you didn't if you addressed this earlier appreciate how long you've been on this call what subjects outside of Hunter Biden by the way this is Will Kane from Fox News what subjects outside of Hunter Biden were subject to the most government-induced censorship

uh you may not have heard my earlier comment but uh I don't actually I like like I said I've been me personally I've been working on getting Twitter to be healthy and fixing the engine of engineering um I have not been sort of pouring over the Twitter files personally um that's sort of been you know Matt tyvee's doing that and Barry Weiss he's going to do it now as well so um anything I say would be somewhat of a uh you know guesswork really um but uh you know so I I don't know um you know there's obviously a lot of questions around uh uh Jan six um there's questions around uh you know covid there's a lot of questions and but I think the important thing is that we just get um you know bring daylight to all of these things and so anything that Twitter

has done and sometimes I think you know a lot of times Twitter's done things that were just they were just it wasn't malicious it was just foolish so the things that are like looking people for NPCs right for for posting NPC memes so thousands of people were banned yeah exactly right from a good question um with the companies Twitter which um I think most of us agrees is just not right has there been any progress since have you been in discussions with them and what are some other strategies to bring in Revenue so we depend Less on on advertisers you can hear this this is Eric bowling again trust any knowledge or you can have any proof that those there there's some indication that a lot of people on the right side of the political aisle lost a ton of

followers I would say from 2015 2016 all the way through the you know towards the end of 2021 I'll give you a panic totally myself I I lost the 80 000 or so and not until I'm this is literal not until you purchase Twitter did I start gaining followers again in a fairly robust manner is there any proof of that do you have any evidence of of that being sort of a uh a plan or a strategy on Twitter's part um you know again I I said I I have not read the Twitter file so it's definitely difficult for me to say that except you so my my understanding is limited and that's why I would leave it to um and Barry Weiss and ultimately others which is is but if I if I if I say what what what is my best guess is that that was a very different standard applied to Republican

candidates in the U.

S versus a Democrat candidate there appears and emphasizer appears I'm not saying this is definitely the case it appears to have been a double standard where um where Democrats were not censored and and left causes were not censored but right right causes and and Republicans were um and it was and I think this is frankly obvious to anyone who uses Twitter without any expose of Twitter files not even-handed and and it's frankly the the behavior that is to be expected from an organization that is that is based in San Francisco uh Which is far left so from their standpoint it wouldn't seem like that they're they're being um unfair that from their standpoint it's simply how they see the world um I mean I think Matt posted like political contributions of Twitter

being over 99 Democrat so well what kind of viewpoint would you expect people to have then it's the behavior you'd expect from a company that is essentially a distillation of San Francisco politics and I hope that just information I want to make a simple question I want to make a suggestion real quick Elon when you are speaking we can hear you really well when you are listening the background noise from your jet is interfering and can you just mute yourself yeah so anyway I have a question like so when you're you know making the files available to everybody or rather more people I would just like the request that uh that I don't know give it to me because I work for Rebel news and I think we could do a tremendous job covering this as much as anybody else

really yeah so so China so Tim cost is trying to come up by the way Elon just asks you a question but in the meantime you want to go about and I know that persistence has a question as well I'll give you the mic right after persistence but one one question again back to the advertisers Elon not sure if you heard it before um any progress there with the advertisers that stopped advertising on Twitter which we all agree is just not right and any the other strategies to bring Revenue outside of advertising uh you're muted um yeah so I mean so so Apple has fully resumed advertising which is appreciated uh Apple is the single biggest Advertiser on Twitter and historically and and presently so uh thanks Apple for the reasoning advertising um and uh I think

we're we're seeing we are starting to see a lot of other advertisers also resume their spending uh I think the the problem is that they would read all these stories in the media and then um think that they were true and and they're not true um and and then as it's becoming clear that the media stories about Twitter being some sort of like right-wing hellscape which is absolutely is and in fact it is there are far fewer Bots far fewer trolls um and it's I it's actually I think way more fun and interesting um and we're seeing that in the in the user minutes and in the daily average users then then advertisers are like okay I guess uh maybe maybe it is safe to get back in the water and uh so we are we are seeing um advertisers resume advertising on Twitter

so that's that's a good sign um I wish it would be faster but but we are seeing them resume the the more the more concerning Factor on the advertising front is just the um the entire industry-wide drop in advertising which uh Twitter is not immune from so even though advertisers do get get back on the advertising expenditures in general are dropping for all companies and so it is imperative that that Twitter have an alternate Revenue Source hence the subscriber um Revenue which is just very important for both of the just the survival and for of Twitter and to reduce its dependence on on Advertising yeah overall I think you know I I I'm cautiously optimistic about the future yeah so I I I I want to I'll add I'll add one point of credit like I I have no

stats I have nothing against the the old uh you know Executives at Twitter Etc but very objectively speaking what you've done in a month and again that's purely being objective what you've done in a month is [ __ ] insane uh the amount of progress that you've had and where Twitter is at now in such a short period of time um so not that you need more credit because you're getting a lot here but I just want to add to it as well I'll give the mic to to um the persistence who's been waiting uh for a while and then Spike go ahead persistence [Music] my question is threatening to pull money from Twitter if Twitter did not adhere to a policy and additionally do we have any information on congressmen or women who have threatened legislation should Twitter not

adhere to a certain policy unless I was really intrigued by your comment on uh positivity and negativity and tweets you saying that positive tweets would go uh further and I just wanted to see what would constitute the measurement from Twitter uh that would make something positive or negative thank you are you back yeah sure um well the advertisers um for the most part the advertisers are quite rational in that um you know if if you especially if you like your advertising a family friendly product that uh you don't want to be sort of like let's say you're advertising a Disney movie you don't want to have like some super negative uh sort of high speech or you know through the and and also a movie or whatever and and you also they don't want to have not

safe for work content right next to uh ads for children toys and stuff like that so that stuff is quite reasonable and and um and I agree with um advertising advertisers have a right to have their advertising be next to non-advertising con that is consistent with their their brand so that that really just means like uh you know what is is D is is um not attempting to monetize with advertising uh content that advertisers are uncomfortable with so I think in in general it's been okay okay um I mean I think there has been some overzealous action by um activist groups that that pressure the advertisers that then in turn pressure Twitter um and you know we're trying to sort of you know that that I thought was was somewhat unreasonable but uh it I I'm I think

it's gonna Trend in a good direction going forward but I'm I'm not sure but it looks like it's headed in a good direction like I said advertisers are returning to Twitter uh apples back and forth full full ad spend and um I've had I've had a number of conversations with uh The Advertiser groups and and every time I've had those conversations the advertisers have responded positively and and I've also just because they're like I mean they end up reading the the the sort of mainstream media and it's like you know uh and then they end up with with all the wrong impressions of what's going on and I said well have you tried using Twitter do you see these things for yourself and they're like actually it seems fine when we use Twitter like yes that's because

it is fine and so then um and then I also found like look as we try to grow Twitter's user base if if a new user comes on Twitter and then is immediately attacked by trolls and and dumped on they're going to want to leave so because who wants to go it's like going into a party or something and everyone just starts yelling at you you don't want to you're going to want to leave that party you know Twitter does need to be a more welcoming environment for new users and so the the incentives are actually aligned um that if if uh if people come on and and they see interesting funny tweets things that that where they learn learn something new or it's like it's it's entertaining it's funny it's like that's the kind of thing that um we should see more of and uh

and that will that that's consistent with what most advertisers want I think and what what Twitter wants in order to grow the user base and um and there's generally over time it's like it kind of you know PPO pill can be to some degree choose what sort of experience they're like um just like you can choose the radio station like you know some people want to listen to sort of smooth jazz easy listening or they may want to go to you know pop pop music or they want to go to heavy metal thrash and uh you know to each their own or if this was uh you know do you want to have like full contact martial arts or do you want to have a light contact or do you want to do yoga you know and you can decide which one of those what kind of experience you want that's going

to be important in order to have Twitter appeal to a broad audience yeah so that's that's that's the rough game plan oh just put it out really quick he had mentioned different color uh checkbooks for verification different entities was that still going to be part of the new verification process foreign yeah so again like the goal is like to say how do you convey people using Twitter uh as quickly as possible and as clearly as possible what what they're seeing um so there will be um a gold check mark for commercial organizations a great check mark for government and a blue check mark for verified individuals and then there will also be the uh um an organizational affiliation logo so like next next to your check if you let's say a verified user if you are

a professor at Stanford and Stanford is participating in identifying who is a professor then then there would be like a tiny Stanford logo that would appear next to your blue check mark um so the edge is rolling is like see oh this is actually a stem Professor or this person actually does work at Coca-Cola and um and there's a Clarity there will there be a process for this to apply for an organization for you know let's say you're a part of a small news organization and you want to apply for this status will it be available to the public course is something that's going to be very selective uh no it will be available to to the public so it's sort of um you know so it's not going to be like an anointed set of companies um now there will be a strong policy

against uh impersonation and deception so if if uh if it's if if someone's attempting to deceive um users then their account will be suspended that's that's yeah I've got a question here I'll give it to Tom just by a pretty notable person that doesn't disclose the identity but it's a simple question and by the way anyone has a question you could DM me the team is checking all the DMS the question is um plans for crypto Twitter payments whether it's going to be like WeChat or whether you have uh you have plans at all Dogecoin yeah yeah I think we do want to have Twitter and enable both uh regular payments and uh if you had currency uh and and uh and make make it easier to transact with crypto yeah okay I've got another question here from a big YouTuber

as well Elon one of the first uh so they're asking they want to bring YouTube creators to Twitter what's your what's your plan with uh what's your Twitter Creator plan if there is one uh yeah so for video we need to upgrade the the Twitter system to be able to have longer video uh and then and enable creators to derive revenue from from viewership which is a combination of advertising and these are obviously things that need to happen like I said in order for these to happen like you could have a wish list a mile long but if the if engine of engineering is not fixed so that's that's why I am focused on Twitter engineering uh first and foremost um in the absence of that you could have a wish whatever you wish will could not be done because the engineering

is not working hey I have a really great suggestion for you and right after game I let Tom jump in right after you just Tom sorry for for delaying it so much go ahead Kim sorry yeah you know how foreign media is labeled on Twitter often as like Russian controlled state-controlled media why don't we do the same thing in the US with all of these media organizations that that are telling us go to war you know this is all great like why don't we label them as well U.

S government uh uh State media no I think that's a good idea um because like you know it's like SBF gave so much money to different media organizations that and and then they just write these puff pieces and it's like okay we should be labeling that SPF Affiliated media because it is uh like if you're gonna write a puff piece about someone who gave you a ton of money then the public should know that you uh maybe have a bias so yeah I mean I think it should be if if um if if something is taking direction from the space then that information should be made clear to the readers um like like who's really who's really Who's the who really has editorial control to be clear um because that's all part of like trying to give users of Twitter the most accurate

and truthful understanding of what's going on and and be able to calibrate what they read see or hear on Twitter to be able to calibrate the the truthfulness as a function of where it is where is it coming from who is the author who is controlling this from an editorial standpoint um and so then they that you know they can apply reasonable judgment in that case yeah no I agree with you and I think that would be a really good thing to level the playing field because when you want to find out about what's going on in Ukraine and you get it from sources that are labeled certain way and then the U.

S news sources are not labeled at all you know the the problem with that is that people think this source is trustworthy and this source is not trustworthy so if Twitter has labels like this then they need to be applied fairly also against media that is clearly pro-war and clearly infiltrated by commentators from the intelligence Community who are telling us all this [ __ ] about why we have to be at War I agree this is the maximum truth is the crucial still you know set you free Tom Jones I know you've been waiting for a while Tom thank you thank you for having me so maybe just a couple more questions and then I gotta go back to work here I'll I'll ask him yeah and we appreciate it keep innovating and keep creating thank you and Elon I'll I'll I'll I'll

I'll I'll go ahead Tom 's here yeah so I'll jump in Elon um my question to you because Tom's not it's not working on his end uh that's actually a simple question I'm gonna shoot my shot if I can get a DM on Twitter so I have a line of communication and then I can try to get you on and convince you to join more spaces so it's our question it's just uh giving it a shot on my end I appreciate you joining again oh yeah John go ahead man I I said my word yeah thank you this is Tom fitting with Judicial Watch Elon appreciate your public service and your transparency efforts here you know my concern is you know as the head of a watchdog group is the government corruption in response you know not only to what you potentially May uncover but in response to what

you're doing and when you have the president of the United States from the podium celebrate his election victory for by calling for a National Security review of your activities you have Senators High you know focusing on you you have other government agencies investigating you and your other businesses uh are you concerned a about the retaliation and B are you seeing evidence of it government is slow to act so this is the thing about that's important to appreciate about anything anything government related is that they're not nimbled they are slow so I think the actions that that we'll see and I think there probably will be some actions we'll we'll happen but they'll happen slowly and it's only been it's only been a month so far but I wouldn't I would

expect uh I would expect some you know there's probably not there's probably at least a few nefarious things that are in the works right now probably I would say this would be uh naive to assume that there were no nefarious thing and so I guess if but I I will just expose them on Twitter and see what happens well the most important thing you don't have any Suicidal Thoughts do you Elon I do not have any Suicidal Thoughts I uh I I if I committed suicide it's not real well that was that was that was a good one Claire I know he he likes to jump off so maybe one one more question and one or two a clay and then Ian I'll let you end it Ian because you've done a great job asking questions earlier clay go ahead yeah you're on this is uh clay Travis with uh out

kick Fox News and radio show with Clayton Park um you said earlier and I think it's so important that you were thinking about just letting everybody know when you get a governmental request to censor someone or take down tweets what what kind of process is in play there and to what extent can that happen because I think you're right the sunlight of the government being embarrassed when they're going after James Woods for instance would drastically reduce any attempts at censorship what's the update date there what kind of time frame and do you think that's able to be implemented yeah you're muted Elon I mean as I said earlier like we will Twitter will do what whatever it is allowed to do uh within the boundaries of the law um to be as transparent and

open as possible um and even something if we're currently are and I don't know this to be the case but if we're all currently drained by the law I think we will push to have the law modified to reduce those constraints because I think we have to you know we have to find hard for for free speech which is the Bedrock of a functioning democracy and uh I think you'll you'll see the the proof will be in the pudding and in the coming months I think you'll see dramatic improvements in the transparency and trustworthiness of Twitter you know hopefully you've seen at least some of that already um and it will it will get better and I think it will get better in an accelerating way provided I don't accidentally suicide myself which I'm not going to do Elon thank

you so much time today you have been such a blessing to join us to give us your insights I really appreciate it don't forget to make that Poll for Edward Snowden and Julian Assange yeah I'll be interested to know what the public things of these two people and what they're fighting for I I will yeah and uh and that's and I'll emphasize that I'm not making a judgment here I'm just asking I'll do it right after this Twitter space is ends right asking the public a question you know just that's right picking a poll yeah so I have a question okay so yeah you know this is just a question I'm not look okay so I got a question since you know like this is the last one what message do you have for all the haters and losers out there who are you know making fun of

you or attacking Twitter said it was going to die like four weeks ago what's your message Twitter is alive baby hell yeah hell yeah beautiful I look forward to the test by earnings call right here on on Twitter with you Elon Musk yeah I think I I think it will work you know I got the DM so I assume the promise you made you Kim and the promise you made your title should go through Elon really appreciate you and uh Mario see you back hope to see you again soon I really appreciate it man thank you Elon all right thanks guys bye I told you it was worth listening and this is the kind of stuff I talk about all the [ __ ] time over on my patreon account if you're not already member you know what to do by now there's over 230 videos many of them diving down these

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