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马斯克在匹兹堡地区(麦基斯罗克斯)举行的市民大会,参议员候选人戴夫·麦考密克登台与他同席,现场还送出了一张100万美元的支票;超过200万人在X上同步关注。
Musk's Pittsburgh-area town hall (McKees Rocks), where Senate candidate Dave McCormick joined him on stage and a $1 million check was handed out; more than two million people followed along on X.
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464 个段落
埃隆·马斯克
我猜这个座位离舞台有点远,所以。
埃隆·马斯克
不用客气。
埃隆·马斯克
那么恭喜你。
观众
太感谢了。哦,我的天啊。
埃隆·马斯克
你有什么想说的吗?
观众
嗯,非常感谢你为此。我的意思是,我真的相信你所做的一切,真的。你本来不需要这样做。我知道我们很多人都有同样的感受。
观众
你正在运用自己的财富和责任来拯救言论。我们所有人都很感激。我们真的很感激。所以非常感谢你。
埃隆·马斯克
那么,让我们看看。好时光。
埃隆·马斯克
你们那不可思议的能量总能让我热血沸腾,而且,你知道。是的,是的。我的意思是,这样的能量点燃了我灵魂中的火焰。说实话,真的很棒。就是,真的非常棒。
埃隆·马斯克
那么让我们看看。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,我要说的一些事情以前已经说过了,因为这些话很重要,需要多说几次,确保人们收到这个信息,也为了那些可能第一次观看这类讲话、也许没有看过其他讲话的人。所以,如果我说的一些话有所重复,请原谅,但对于外面的一些人来说,他们中的许多人根本没有听过这些话。
埃隆·马斯克
最重要的是,宾夕法尼亚州的登记截止时间是明天午夜。所以过了那个时间,人们就不能登记投票了。所以最重要的是,登记、登记、登记,只剩到明天午夜为止。就是。就是这样。所以一定要不停催促朋友、家人、熟人、街上的人,以及你遇到的每一个人,对他们说。只要。只要去登记。我们必须登记。
埃隆·马斯克
哇。90。太了不起了。恭喜。
埃隆·马斯克
太棒了。
埃隆·马斯克
我希望自己能活到90岁。所以,你知道,照我收到的那些该死的仇恨来看,我可能活不到。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,在有人失去一只眼睛或一只耳朵,或者我猜,之前,这一切都只是玩玩闹闹。所以之后,就只是用一只眼睛和一只耳朵继续玩玩闹闹。行吧,随便,你知道,但希望,希望,希望我不会中枪。
埃隆·马斯克
这。
埃隆·马斯克
不,但这就像。这就像真的。这外面太疯狂了,你知道吗?
埃隆·马斯克
是啊。嗯,不管怎样,你知道,有这么个事。我刚刚上了某个大型的,类似,新冠。我想它是德国最大的杂志,叫《明镜》。我刚刚就像上了他们的《时代》杂志之类的,说我是2号敌人,你知道吗?
埃隆·马斯克
是啊。我就想,什么的2号敌人?民主。我是说,我支持民主。我实际上想做的一切,就是维护宪法并确保我们拥有一场自由且公平的选举。
埃隆·马斯克
是啊,我知道。你知道,我肯定要升级我的安保。你知道,就像,所以我猜我最好取消那场开放式警察游行。开玩笑的。
埃隆·马斯克
也许我可以搞一次开放式碳水突袭。但它,但它实际上就像是一个我的假人版本,然后看看会发生什么。
埃隆·马斯克
就只是个充气的。我不知道,那会挺好笑的。就是戏弄他们一下。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。不,但我必须承认,有时我对自己看到的一些事情有点震惊,你知道,比如左派那种恶毒仇恨的程度,而他们本应是宽容的。他们声称自己宽容,但他们却极其不宽容,还在喷吐仇恨。而且,你知道,反观右派,我看到,你知道,人们往往多少会把左派的人看作,嗯,误入歧途,但,你知道,并不憎恨他们。
埃隆·马斯克
他们只是弄错了。他们误入歧途了。但来自左派的仇恨之多,就像,哇,完全是另一个级别。
埃隆·马斯克
是啊,外面有些邪恶的东西。所以,你知道,我认为我们应该接纳多元观点,我们应该进行合理的论辩,我们应该进行辩论,而且它们应该是。这就是言论自由的本质,也就是各种观点能够存续,你知道,当它们是在观点市场中相互竞争的观点时。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,如果有人说了某件。某件不正确的事,那么它可以被纠正。那就是,那就是X平台上发生的事情。人们会说某件事,然后其他人会给它补充背景,或者会纠正它,或者会有一条社区注释。而这同样适用于左派和右派。不再像过去那样有人把手指压在天平上。而且,你知道,左派没有任何声音遭到噤声,不像过去右派有许多声音遭到噤声。
埃隆·马斯克
但他们似乎就是不喜欢这样一个想法,即右派的人可以在法律范围内说自己想说的话,这很惊人。我是说,之所以发起这份支持宪法的请愿书,是因为宪法确实正受到攻击。一个又一个知名民主党人一直在说,言论自由,也就是第一修正案,是件坏事。是啊。约翰·克里确实这么说过。蒂姆·沃尔斯。
埃隆·马斯克
还有蒂姆·沃尔斯。是啊,还有希拉里。是啊,没错。就像有一长串人。他们不是那种,你知道,……里的中层人士。这就像民主党的最高层人士在说第一修正案是个障碍,然后他们会把它称作,你知道,比如他们会使用“虚假信息”这个词。比如,如果某个人频繁使用“虚假信息”这个词,这是一个相当好的迹象,表明他们才是制造虚假信息的人。
埃隆·马斯克
而且你知道,谁。
埃隆·马斯克
如果你想弄清谁是好人、谁是坏人,那些试图压制言论自由的人,他们就是坏人。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,所以我们在2024年的美国竟然会处于这种境地,这实际上令人震惊。甚至很难相信这是真的。你知道,还有我看到正在发生的一些疯狂事情,比如,加利福尼亚州通过了一项法律,规定在该州任何选举中要求选民出示身份证都是违法的,比如,甚至连,比如,市议会选举都不行。
埃隆·马斯克
我的一个朋友去加利福尼亚州帕洛阿尔托投票,因为他想,这到底是不是真的?然后他试着出示自己的身份证,那就像对着吸血鬼亮出十字架一样。比如,他们说,不,不,把身份证收起来。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,比如,他们真的是。即使他想把身份证给他们看,他们也不被允许查看。这就是疯狂所达到的程度。这是加利福尼亚州目前真实存在的事情。而且如果。如果水坝走向全国,他们就会在全国范围内这么做。显然,这就是将会发生的事,而且民主将不复存在。那就是。那就是为什么我认为这是我们一生中最重要的选举。
埃隆·马斯克
特朗普总统是唯一能够拯救民主的人。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。是啊。
埃隆·马斯克
是啊。
埃隆·马斯克
战斗,战斗,战斗。战斗。战斗。战斗,战斗,战斗,战斗,战斗,战斗,战斗,战斗。
埃隆·马斯克
我是说。
埃隆·马斯克
是啊,我仍然非常震惊,这居然是。这。这一大堆事情竟然是真的。你知道,就像,每过去一周,就会发生更疯狂的事情。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。但。是啊,没错。他们毁了旧金山。
埃隆·马斯克
是啊。还有英国。
观众
对。
埃隆·马斯克
对。有这样一种压制言论自由的运动。
观众
是啊。
埃隆·马斯克
遍及全世界。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,问题是,如果。显然,确实,火星,2028年,你知道,占领火星。
观众
是啊,
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,没错。我们想做一些令人兴奋、鼓舞人心的事情,让你期待未来,你知道,比如把人类送回月球,把人类送上火星,探索太阳系。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,如果你想想,比如,如果你问大概世界上的任何人,人类有史以来做过的最鼓舞人心的事情是什么?我敢说很多人会说,我们登上了月球,你知道,而且。是啊,不过这个事实。这个事实就是,你知道,我们人类,你知道,尽管有我们所有的问题和挑战,仍然能够登上月球,而且尽管只有少数人去了月球,但从某种意义上说,我们所有人都去了那里。
埃隆·马斯克
我们算是和他们一起去了那里。我们拥有了那段经历。好吧,我承认当时我1岁,但我看了那些视频,而人类竟然能够做到那样的事情,令人难以置信地振奋。
埃隆·马斯克
但我们未来想做得更多。我们不希望那是我们有史以来做得最好的。我们不希望那成为最高水位线。我们想超越它,而且就像我说的,我们想要,比如,一个永久性的月球阿尔法基地和一座火星城市。而且,你知道,我认为,我的意思是,基本上整个太阳系都会酷毙了。你知道,我们想让科幻变成现实,而不是永远只停留在虚构中。
埃隆·马斯克
你就是通常会想想未来,然后说,好吧,将会发生一些令人兴奋、鼓舞人心的事情,它们会比过去更好,而这正是让你期待未来的原因。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,只是,你知道,算是重申一下,你知道,一个特朗普的某些关键原则。我的意思是,显然,我想你们都知道,但对于外面可能正在收听的人,尤其是那些可能正在决定该往哪边走的独立摇摆选民,你知道,我认为在,在特朗普担任总统期间,我们将拥有安全的边境,我们将拥有安全的城市,我们将拥有合理的支出,我们将放松监管,因此我们只会有合理的监管,而且我们可以释放美国这个巨人的力量。
埃隆·马斯克
而且。
埃隆·马斯克
我们将维护宪法,我们将加强言论自由、持有武器的权利以及人们所珍视的自由,并减轻联邦政府给各州以及各州人民带来的负担。
埃隆·马斯克
走,走,走。所以,所以对,政府效率部会非常棒。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,这要做的其实就是审视所有联邦支出,然后说,如果某项东西不是,如果你辛苦挣来的钱所缴纳的税款没有获得很高的价值,那就取消它。所以,是的。而且我认为这件事,我本想说这是一项艰巨的工作,但其实并不是,因为浪费实在太多了。所以我实际上认为这是一项,这是一项相当容易的工作。尽管我们自然会遭到那些根深蒂固的利益集团的大量反对,他们拿了钱却什么也不做,你知道,没拿它做任何好事。
埃隆·马斯克
他们会对此闷闷不乐,但美国人民会非常高兴,因为他们缴纳的税款正以合理得多的方式使用。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我认为我们还希望做到极度透明。你知道,就是不要有什么阴暗的幕后交易之类的,一切都公开进行,完全曝光。比如,你可以看到所犯的错误、所做的好事。你可以对此发表评论,可以,你知道,提出担忧。这就是,我们想要一个透明、开放的政府。而且你知道,因为会有人犯错,但你想要,如果有,如果有,随着,随着透明而来的是信任,你知道,然后你可以看到,好吧,我们犯了一个错误,我们会修正它,我们会那么做,你知道,而且,而且然后,而且然后你,
观众
你,
埃隆·马斯克
而这就是恢复对政府信任的最佳方式。并不是说你应该信任政府,你不应该信任政府,但如果至少存在透明度,你就能稍微信任它多一点。所以这些就是我认为我们能从特朗普那里得到的所有东西;另一方面,你知道,有那种,那种德莫沙因,你知道,对科蒙进行人身攻击几乎没有任何意义,因为她只是,她只是这台机器的傀儡。
埃隆·马斯克
但如果这台机器接管一切,它就又有了4年。我们显然会看到边境门户大开。我们会看到我们的城市变得更不安全。我们会看到极端支出和通货膨胀。我们会看到言论自由被剥夺或受到严重削弱。我们会看到《第二修正案》规定的持有武器权受到严重削弱。他们已经说过自己要这么做。这并不是什么秘密议程。这就是他们公开说的话。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,当他们这么说时,相信他们就是了。而且我认为,
观众
嗯,
埃隆·马斯克
是的,所以,而且我认为还有其他的、另一个我们应该考虑的重大危险,那就是,我的意思是,被安置到摇摆州的非法移民人数大幅增加。如果你看实际数字,看看,看看政府数据。这是一个民主党政府报告的政府数据。你会看到,过去3年里,摇摆州的非法移民人数出现了三位数的增长。
埃隆·马斯克
那么接下来的目标将是,在未来4年里让所有那些合法移民都合法化。当选举有时由10,000票或20,000票决定,而你又在同一个摇摆州安置200,000名合法移民并让他们合法化时。现在你就有了200,000票的优势,每个摇摆州都将变成蓝州,美国将永远成为一党制国家,就像加利福尼亚州一样。而那将是一场噩梦。
埃隆·马斯克
民主没了。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为,卡玛拉当总统就会发生这种事。记住我的话。
埃隆·马斯克
这就是为什么人们会疑惑,我为什么积极参与政治?因为我其实……我是个技术专家。我造火箭、汽车之类的东西。所以我掺和政治干什么?
埃隆·马斯克
不是。我不想参与政治。我想说清楚。这不是我的偏好。我只喜欢造东西。我喜欢打造人们喜爱的产品,看到人们享用我的公司制造的产品,我就会从中获得快乐。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
我喜欢制造人们喜爱的产品,这才是我通常喜欢做的事。其实我一点也不喜欢政治。我讨厌政治。
埃隆·马斯克
但此事利害攸关,我别无选择,只能表明立场。
埃隆·马斯克
所以这不是我想做的事。
观众
而且。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
太棒了。
观众
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
总之,大幅增加我遭到暗杀的风险,以及,你知道,参与政治,都不是我想做的事。我并不想死。但事关重大,我真的不得不。我觉得我别无选择,只能这么做。这就是原因。
埃隆·马斯克
也感谢大家的大力支持,以及你们为确保我们拥有民主、确保正确的一方获胜所做的一切。谢谢各位所做的一切,也感谢外面的大家。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,我是说,对外面的每个人,你知道,因为我认为有。有。有数百万人会观看这个。这个市民大会和这场,你知道,这场谈话,以及那些将会。我们将进行的问答。
埃隆·马斯克
拜托,拜托,如果你在宾夕法尼亚州,很抱歉一直重复,但你。你只剩不到36小时可以登记。请务必登记。确保你认识的每个人都已登记投票。请确保每个人,你知道,都已经。已经投票,他们。如果他们收到了缺席选票,他们。那他们。他们确实去投票。而且。而且我真的建议大家提前投票,所以马上投票。
埃隆·马斯克
而且你可以进去。这个叫法有点奇怪,因为上面写的是缺席选票,但实际上你可以拿着缺席选票,亲自把它交上去。这样你就会想,好吧,那么,你知道,它。你知道,你知道,它已经送到了。你简直就是亲手把它交给那个人。你可以,你知道,也许给它拍张照片之类的。
埃隆·马斯克
但这。那。这非常重要。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,你知道,我觉得,就像,我们面临的很多挑战是。是,我想,其中之一。也许,可能不在。显然不在这群听众当中,但是。但是有些人,我们面临一种冷漠的问题,他们。也许他们。他们认为投票不算数,或者他们认为事情没那么严重。所以无论出于什么原因,他们没有登记投票,也没有投票。因此,走出去向大家解释这次选举的重要性,以及民主如何正处于生死存亡的关头,真的非常重要。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我认为,这可能是最后一场真正的选举了。
埃隆·马斯克
这是你一生中最重要的选举。如果有哪场选举是你应该投票的,那就应该是这一次。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,那么也许我们可以进入问答环节。
埃隆·马斯克
如果有人愿意的话,我们可以开始问答。
埃隆·马斯克
哦,你们必须按比例排队。
埃隆·马斯克
好的,
观众
好的。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。第二,当然是第二修正案。我们的请愿就是关于这个的。因为原因是,就像,如果我们失去第二修正案,就不会有第一修正案。第二修正案的存在,是为了确保第一修正案始终强有力。先生。
埃隆·马斯克
埃隆,我的问题是问你和你今晚在这里的嘉宾戴夫·麦考密克的。你们两位都在商业领域取得了令人难以置信的成功,而且你们都是白手起家的人,真正体现了美国梦。我想知道,戴夫能做什么、你又能做什么,把同样的机会带到华盛顿,让其他人也能拥有这种经历。是的,嗯,我认为我们谈到的这些事情会产生很大的影响。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,我所说的过度监管对美国的扼杀,其程度之严重,正在阻碍进步,比如阻止新房屋建成,阻止桥梁建成,甚至阻止一些微不足道的事情,比如 Boring Company,它只是想在一条河下面挖一条简单的隧道。它已经等了2年许可,却办不下来。所以它就搁置在某个地方。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为,里根在80年代放松监管时,释放出了一波繁荣浪潮。我认为这是一件极其重要的事。另一件我还没谈到、但非常重要的事是,我们需要确保在美国,你取得成功纯粹取决于你的才能和努力工作,别无其他。你知道,任何形式的种族主义、性别歧视都是不好的。不管它针对谁。我们希望这里成为机会之地。
埃隆·马斯克
这就意味着,你有多优秀取决于你工作有多努力、你多有才华,以及你作出了什么贡献。而那应该是唯一的,那应该是决定能否取得成功的唯一因素。
观众
我只想知道,你是否在考虑参加2028年的竞选。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,那就必须为此修改宪法。所以我,我祖父其实是美国人,但说来奇怪,我出生在非洲,这是一个奇怪的出生点。但你知道,就像,所以我不能当总统,不过反正我其实也不想当总统。说清楚一点,我想制造火箭和汽车,还有,你知道,所以。
埃隆·马斯克
我是个极其按字面意思说话的人。事实上,你可以去看,你知道,比如我20年前发表的演讲,我说的也是同样的话,你知道,所以就像,这并不是说,你知道,只是,你知道,我相信我们希望成为一个太空煎炸文明,置身于群星之间,而为此我们需要,你知道,拥有出色的火箭技术。你知道,我相信电动、电动汽车和自动化,还有,你知道,自动驾驶、机器人技术和天基互联网。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,我就是喜欢创造人们觉得有用的技术,那正是我想用自己的时间去做的事。所以我希望我们能让特朗普总统当选,然后我会在政府效率部努力工作,之后,你知道,我希望自己可以不再参与政治。那是我的希望。所以我,所以,你知道,就像我说的,你知道,我这么做是因为我认为这对国家的未来至关重要,而如果美国垮了,其他一切都无关紧要。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,我们就去不了火星之类的地方了。所以,你知道,我和很多人谈过,比如商业和科技领域的领袖,因为我当时说,各位,你们真的应该,你知道,你们需要站出来,走出去努力抗争,因为,你知道,如果美国垮了,你们的公司也会跟着垮。所以为什么不,你知道,我希望有更多商业和科技领域的领袖愿意,愿意站出来。
埃隆·马斯克
比如,他们,他们通常赞同我,也支持特朗普,但他们,他们不敢说出来。而我会说,老兄,事关重大。你知道,幸运的是,越来越多的人算是,你知道,开始出柜了,你知道,类似这种事。比如,就像公开说支持特朗普,这就像,你知道,这可能是在旧金山能做的最叛逆的事情,远远超过其他事情,你知道。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,那就是。总之,我不是天生的政治人物,也不希望成为政治人物。我只想创造你们会喜欢使用的酷技术。
埃隆·马斯克
萨姆,只是为了。伊莱,只是为了回应萨姆的问题,
观众
民主党现在竞选所依据的立场不仅反商业,也反成功。
埃隆·马斯克
而反商业,就是这些正在扼杀企业的巨量监管。
观众
不管是奶牛场,还是太空、SpaceX,以及其他一切。
埃隆·马斯克
我是说,水力压裂。
观众
我是说,你不必禁止水力压裂也能禁止水力压裂。你只需要设置繁文缛节和官僚主义
埃隆·马斯克
以及各种各样的规定,使得
观众
取得成功变得不可能。而在个人成功方面,我们需要通过优秀的学校,让每一个孩子都有机会发挥自己的全部潜能。我们的学校系统需要彻底
埃隆·马斯克
改造,让每个人都获得机会。不是每个人。不是每个人都需要上大学。
观众
他们只需要具备技能
埃隆·马斯克
从而在美国梦中拥有一份很棒的事业。
埃隆·马斯克
对,没错。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的。让我看看。下一个问题。
观众
嗨,埃隆。
观众
和唐纳德·特朗普以及您一样,我想我也是一次暗杀企图的幸存者。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,目前还没有人靠近到足以开枪的距离。
观众
好吧,那么,就像唐纳德·特朗普一样。
埃隆·马斯克
有几个人试图靠近,但他们还没靠近就被逮捕了。
观众
很好。
埃隆·马斯克
对,那很好。
观众
但就我而言,我的父母雇了一个杀手,也就是所谓的堕胎医生。
埃隆·马斯克
好。
观众
试图在我还在子宫里时杀死我。
埃隆·马斯克
哇。
观众
但他的工作干得很糟,而我活了下来。我现在就在这里。
观众
谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我很高兴你在这里。
观众
谢谢。不过,所以,不用说,我非常反对堕胎。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众
但即使没有那件事,我也会反对堕胎。
观众
甚至不是出于宗教原因,而只是出于道德、理性和逻辑上的原因。而且我知道你是一个理性的人,你支持人类。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我热爱人类。确实如此。
观众
我只是想知道,你是否会考虑公开支持反堕胎运动。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。我的意思是,很显然,如果说有什么话题是有争议的,那就是这个。这或许,或许是最具争议的话题。
埃隆·马斯克
为了向大家说清楚,特朗普总统已经明确表示,他会否决全国性堕胎禁令。所以他这样说过,因为民主党人一直说他会实施全国性堕胎禁令,而这导致许多所谓的独立选民实际上不投票给特朗普,因为他们认为他会实施全国性堕胎禁令。他已经非常明确地表示,他认为这是州的事务。这是州权问题,而且他会否决全国性堕胎禁令。
埃隆·马斯克
所以现在,你知道,这个问题不存在一种不会冒犯一些人的答案。但尽管如此,我还是会告诉你我的看法,而这肯定会冒犯一些人。
埃隆·马斯克
我的看法是,如果婴儿能在子宫外存活,那就无法避免。
埃隆·马斯克
不能。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,如果婴儿能够在子宫外存活,如果妊娠期已经长到足以让其在子宫外存活。到了那个时候,那就不是堕胎,而是谋杀。所以显然。
埃隆·马斯克
现在,这里的部分挑战在于,教育体系吓坏了女孩和女性,并且不断灌输这样一种观念:怀孕就是你人生的终结。比如你的事业完了,你会被社会排斥。所以,当你向年轻女孩灌输恐惧,让她们觉得怀孕是可能发生的最糟糕的事情时。她们显然会相信,因为她们还只是孩子,所以当这成为一种根深蒂固的信念,而且她们长期以来在教育体系中一直被灌输这种信念时,那么,一想到即使在极端情况下也无法堕胎,显然会是一种可怕的处境。
埃隆·马斯克
而且她们不会投票给任何可能会,本质上,会阻止她们即使在极端情况下堕胎的候选人。所以这就是我们面临的问题。就是教育中这种持续不断的灌输,吓唬女孩和女性,说如果她们怀孕了,她们的人生就完了。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,而现实是,没有什么比拥有一个孩子更美好了。而且,你知道,我的孩子给我的生活带来的快乐比其他任何事物都多。这通常对所有人类都是如此。事实上,这就是我们的进化方式。
埃隆·马斯克
你爱自己的孩子是一件非常自然的事。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,事实上,拥有一个孩子会让你比生命中的其他任何事情都更加幸福。
观众
所以你有机会向世界上最聪明的人之一提一个问题。
埃隆·马斯克
你会问什么?
观众
关于清洁能源,就……而言,你有什么看法
埃隆·马斯克
核能?核电似乎确实是
观众
我们拥有的最清洁的能源,或者最清洁的能源之一。而且有人谈论开发微型反应堆。你认为那是我们应该
埃隆·马斯克
为了未来,我们应该把我们的、我们的税款重点投入到什么方面?嗯,我非常支持核能。如果你真的看看数据,尤其是如果你看看,比如说,现代核反应堆,现代设计安全到了这种程度:即使你试图让它发生堆芯熔毁,也做不到。比如,如果你带着火焰喷射器和炸药去那里,而你的目标就是让这个东西熔毁,它仍然不会熔毁。现代核反应堆就是这么出色。
埃隆·马斯克
所以它们并不危险,而且是很棒的能源来源。我认为我们应该大力增加核电。我认为这是明智之举。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,在日本发生海啸、福岛反应堆被摧毁时,加州有人问我,他们是否应该担心来自日本的辐射。我当时说,当然不用。那太荒谬了。所以实际上,为了支持日本人民,你知道,因为当时人们甚至害怕去日本旅行。我去了,不是只去了日本。我去了福岛本身。以及电视上的8种当地种植的蔬菜,还有。
埃隆·马斯克
太不可思议了。我还活着。
埃隆·马斯克
哇。你能相信吗?
埃隆·马斯克
不。我们不需要把核废料送到另一个星球。核废料非常少,而且你想在核反应堆现场储存多少都可以。你甚至不需要移动它。
埃隆·马斯克
你会告诉我是什么时候吗?还没有。
埃隆·马斯克
所以不管怎样,我只是觉得,我们不应该那么害怕核能之类的东西。而且不用花很长时间,只要。我是说,如果你只是读一下,比如,你知道的,哪怕是维基百科水平的资料,也会清楚地看出它并不可怕,它并不是一件可怕的事。
埃隆·马斯克
现在也许可以稍微大谈一下科学哲学,你知道,从哲学上、科学上来说。我们太阳系中真正巨大的能源,压倒性地来自太阳。所以太阳每秒大约将4 1/2百万吨质量转化为能量。而且它非常可靠,不需要维护,也不需要保养。它相当棒。所有那些能量都不需要保养。
埃隆·马斯克
所以从长远来看,远远、远远、远远、远远,我们获得的最多能量将来自太阳。太阳能比所有其他能源多1万亿倍。真的就是这样。毫不夸张。所以,是的,是的,太阳耀斑可以摧毁电网,因为电网就像一个巨大的,像无线电,像无线电天线。所以太阳耀斑不能摧毁电网。是的,我不知道我们是否有预案。我怀疑我们没有预案。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,Tesla Megapack可以,可以帮助缓冲电网,并增强电网的韧性。所以。而且它们已经在世界许多地方做到了这一点,包括美国。那么来看看。所以,是的。嗯,首先,感谢你所做的一切,埃隆。过去20年里你真是太了不起了。我的问题是关于选举的,你是否担心AI的崛起,尤其是外国政府?AI对我们选举制度的影响。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我认为总体而言,我们应该警惕AI,无论是国内的还是国际的。所以,是的,我是说,我认为,你知道,我觉得最有可能的是。我认为AI有80%的可能让未来变得美好,有20%的可能让未来变得非常糟糕。所以我们希望最大限度提高它向好的方向发展的概率。而且我认为,我们应该留意国内或国际上任何利用AI进行的操纵。
埃隆·马斯克
这会发生的。嗨,埃隆。我是土生土长的匹兹堡人,今年23岁,非常感谢你在这个对选举极其重要的时期向我们表达的关爱。非常感谢。
埃隆·马斯克
埃隆,我今天的问题是,我知道你熟悉匹兹堡,因为我们在CMU的机器学习、机器发现领域做过工作。是的。而我今天的问题是,梅隆项目是一所很棒的大学。事实上,我的一个儿子明年就要去CMU了。太好了,太好了。
埃隆·马斯克
埃隆,我今天的问题与传闻中你和特朗普谈到的政府效率职务有关。你如何利用这个职务,让AI朝着对所有人都有益的正确方向发展,不只是像我这样在这个领域工作的人,而是所有人?我认为,对我这样的年轻选民来说,这是我们展望未来时所担忧的事情。那么,随着你更深入地参与公共政策,你能如何在这方面帮助我们?
观众
嗯,
埃隆·马斯克
我会回答这个问题,但其实我想听听。你认为我应该怎么做?
埃隆·马斯克
我的,我的,我想听听,比如,我,我是说,你知道,我基本上是在寻求反馈,这就是我想说的。
观众
是的,我的。
埃隆·马斯克
我,哦,恭喜。太棒了。是的,很好,很好。我的想法是,那可能是世界上最好、最好的机器人学院。所以前路并不平稳。而且我,我同意你的看法。我,我认为20%可能很糟糕,20%可能非常出色。而且对匹兹堡来说,我在这里代表匹兹堡发言。这是一座正在从钢铁转向技术的城市。有你这样的人,如果我们
观众
能够改善这里的那个行业,我认为
埃隆·马斯克
我们就能改善这里每个人的生活。如果我们能够改善匹兹堡的生活,就能利用AI和那些技术改善各地人们的生活。而且我认为,这要通过缺乏监管来实现,而不是像欧盟现在所做的那样,攻击人们。我只是想知道你的看法。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,嗯,我认为我们将看到机器人数量大规模扩散、大幅增加。而且你知道,Tesla最近发布了最新款Optimus机器人。我认为那会非常酷。我是说,我们希望给每个人一个属于自己的、自己的私人C3PO、R2D2,你知道,而且,谁会不想要呢?那会很棒,你知道,甚至比那还要好。所以我认为那真的会。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,嗯,是的,无论如何,隐私方面的担忧很重大。但有一件事我想说清楚,比如,就是我正在寻求反馈。所以并不是说我只是在这里开环运行,想做什么就做什么。我是说,我有点想知道人们想要什么,以及,你知道,我们应该做什么?然后就去做,你知道,所以这不同于仅仅由我自己决定,比如,你知道,所以,是的。
观众
埃隆,你显然是一位伟大的美国开拓者,我们匹兹堡的所有人都想欢迎你,并感谢你的到来。谢谢你回答我的问题。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,能来到这里是我的荣幸。
观众
这里确实是美国历史上开拓者的摇篮。从在这里担任测量员的乔治·华盛顿,到把他们那艘匹兹堡制造的船推入俄亥俄河并探索西部的刘易斯和克拉克,再到如此众多产业的诞生。广播、电影。第一座炼油厂。匹兹堡的煤炭似乎是世界上最大的。核能。你提到了西屋,以及Tesla在罗克韦尔公园创造交流电。
观众
慈善产业。第二次世界大战期间,匹兹堡的钢铁产量超过了德国和日本两国的总和。
观众
我们一群人正在这里发起一场运动。我们称之为“匹兹堡明天”,我们正努力重新点燃那种开拓精神。显然,你的儿子是全部。你提到你可能想投资。我们相信,我们不仅能够扭转美国的萎靡状态,帮助匹兹堡复兴,而且通过把这里建设成人们能够构想一种新现实并将其变为现实的地方,这能够树立一个与你正在努力实现的目标同类的榜样。
观众
所以我只想感谢你来到这里,我们想欢迎并邀请你投资我们的城市,同时我们会把它建设成世界上最适宜居住的地方。
埃隆·马斯克
听起来不错。
观众
嗯,
埃隆·马斯克
我是说。我是说,鉴于我儿子明年会在这里上大学,我会经常来匹兹堡,所以,
观众
是的,
埃隆·马斯克
要不停地挥这条毛巾了。很好的锻炼。能让你放松下来。
观众
你好。我今晚以性贩运幸存者的身份来到这里,我来是想亲自问你,埃隆,你是否愿意与性贩运幸存者和性工作者合作,讨论我们的第一修正案权利,以及 sex X 和 U 如何能够帮助这两个弱势社群,他们已经受到现行法律对我们第一修正案权利的限制。
埃隆·马斯克
好的。我的意思是,我通常支持任何能最大限度提升人们幸福感的政策。那么你会建议怎么做?
观众
首先,我建议废除 FOSTA-SESTA。它于2018年4月11日签署,并得到两党的支持。它实际上所做的,是让某些弱势社群噤声,包括性贩运幸存者以及性工作者,使我们无法在互联网的任何地方发声。他们关闭了我们的网站。几周之内,人们就开始死亡。
埃隆·马斯克
两者听起来都很疯狂。
观众
自杀以及他杀。暴力事件升至历史最高水平,而我们的政府目前正通过Fosta sesto之类的法律让我们噤声,这侵犯了我们的第一修正案权利。作为一名儿童性贩运幸存者,以及一名从事全套服务超过25年的性工作者,我可以告诉你们,宾夕法尼亚州为性贩运幸存者提供的资源正被交给警方,用来逮捕提供全套服务的性工作者,而不是保护任何人。
观众
我在9岁、10岁时就在宾夕法尼亚州西部这里遭到虐待。
埃隆·马斯克
哦,听到这个我很难过。
观众
谢谢。而30多年过去了,性贩运幸存者的资源仍然是0,警方继续逮捕提供全套服务的性工作者,并说他们是在帮助孩子,但他们没有帮助任何孩子。所以,你是否愿意进行对话,与性贩运幸存者和性工作者合作,让X成为一个我们能获得安全、不会被政府噤声的平台?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,正如我已经非常明确地说过的,我支持任何支持言论自由的事情。所以任何对言论自由的侵犯,我都会反对。人们应该能够说出自己的想法。那正是第一修正案的全部理念。而且,我是说,执法部门的首要任务首先应该是保护儿童,因为他们可以保护自己。所以先保护孩子,其他一切放在第二位。
观众
嗨,埃隆。非常感谢你来到这里。如你所知,你激励着我们所有人,但最重要的是,你确实激励着美国那些想要有远大梦想、想要做成事情的年幼孩子。但联邦政府通过教育部在这背后设置了一道防火墙。他们不允许我们的孩子有远大梦想。他们不允许孩子拥有自由思想。他们在课堂上受到审查。
观众
他们不能讨论你在X上鼓励的开放对话。所以你正在X上这样做。但我们能做些什么。我是3个孩子的妈妈。我们怎样才能让这在学校里实现,让孩子们能够有远大梦想,并实现你正在梦想的事情?
埃隆·马斯克
对。
观众
嗯,
埃隆·马斯克
我确实认为我们需要对教育进行重大改革。我是说,教育部似乎把向我们的孩子强行灌输宣传视为自己的首要职责,而不是让他们接受良好的教育。这太疯狂了。你知道,这。我是说,我们应该只是,首要任务应该是教给孩子们他们日后生活中会觉得有用的技能,并把任何形式的社会宣传排除在课堂之外。
观众
好的,我有一个要问你的外交政策类问题。所以在以色列,他们有免费医疗,他们有免费大学教育。
埃隆·马斯克
我们这个国家还没有。
观众
我们每年给他们38亿美元。
观众
去年,除了这3.8
观众
十亿美元之外,我们又给他们送去了143亿美元。那么,为什么我们纳税人应该继续资助以色列的那种生活方式?还有第2个问题,很快。我们的政客也被AIPAC收买并付了钱。因为AIPAC把钱送回来,我们给他们送的钱高达1亿美元。你怎么能替我们解决这个问题?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我认为我们需要审视,审视所有联邦支出,然后问,你知道,所有联邦支出,然后问,这真的让美国人民受益了吗,还是没有?如果有,那么,我们花得明智吗?通常答案是否定的。所以,我们应该少花钱,并且高效地花钱。但必须对美国人民有明确的益处,否则我们就不应该花钱。
观众、埃隆·马斯克
埃利,我只想说,我是你的超级粉丝。你买下X后,我当时还不是X用户。我后来成了X用户。谢谢。请鼓励所有人,你知道,去,你知道,订阅高级版。我是X高级版用户。谢谢。是的,是的,是的。我只想感谢所有……所有在X上算是付费订阅者的人。这。这真的很重要,因为这样,你知道,否则我们就完全受制于广告商。而且,你知道,所以当你订阅时,你就是在提供帮助。
埃隆·马斯克、观众
你是在帮助维护言论自由。所以谢谢你的订阅。是的。而且在我成为X用户后,我确实买了Tesla,我很喜欢。就在最近,我订购了星链,因为你为所有飓风灾民所做的一切,对吧,
观众
埃隆?
观众
我儿子和我都是你的超级粉丝。所以我儿子就在那边的队伍里。
观众
他。
观众、埃隆·马斯克
毫不夸张地说,你讲的每一个字,他都铭记在心。他17岁结婚。哇。而且他有2个孩子。他的目标是要比你有更多孩子。埃隆,这是个伟大的目标。说真的,就像。就像这个。出生率问题是个巨大的问题。问题。是的。所以我,我。我的意思是,这很棒。就像,我们需要人。是的。就像,如果你不创造新的人类,就不会有人类。就像,他们不会凭空出现。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。你得把他们生出来。而且这需要。这真的很难生孩子。他们要花很长时间才能长大。而且还要用很多尿布。但是。但是孩子是你一生中将会拥有的最美好的事物。而且你知道,这个,我会说要早点开始。所以我很高兴听到你儿子正在这样做。所以我们会继续支持埃隆。想到你时,我脑海中浮现的那句名言是,邪恶获胜所必需的唯一条件,就是好人无所作为,对吧。
观众
而你过去2年所做的,就是挺身而出并发声。现在邪恶正在受到压制。我们感谢你勇敢的领导。谢谢您,先生。
观众
谢谢你,埃隆。竞选宣传中的许多内容都是关于解决当前问题,而我认为,国家对未来的抱负往往没有得到同等程度的讨论。
埃隆·马斯克
显然,你为自己的公司设定了一些相当宏大的目标。那么,凭借多年的良好领导以及
观众
在特朗普担任总统期间实施常识性政策,描述一下你心目中的理想美国,并描述一下你认为长期来看可能取得的成就。谢谢。好的。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,首先,我应该说,我认为美国很伟大。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我认为,我们要确保那些使美国变得伟大的基本要素继续存在。
埃隆·马斯克
而那些基本要素就是自由和机会。因此,要最大限度地扩大个人自由,最大限度地减少政府干预,并确保你凭借自己的努力和才华取得进步。仅此而已。如果我们拥有这些根本性的东西,并且宪法依然稳固,美国就会变得越来越伟大。
埃隆·马斯克
所以这真的很重要。但正如你所说,我们必须把两者结合起来。我们必须同时做这两件事。我们必须解决所面临的问题,但也必须拥有令人振奋、鼓舞人心的目标。因为生活不能只是解决一个又一个令人痛苦的问题。我的意思是,那就像,很难让人振奋起来,好吧,我们又有一个问题要解决。未来必须有一些让你感到兴奋、令你心潮澎湃的事情。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,你会想,哇,我迫不及待地想看到那件事发生。你知道,所以这就是那种,像是,你知道,我们希望对未来保持乐观,一种建立在现实主义基础上的乐观。所以,你知道,我认为,你知道,宏大的项目,你知道,彻底变革交通运输,你知道,我的意思是,显然我有,我有一些想法,可能其他人也有想法。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,我认为这是可能的,尽管除了 Neuralink 之外,我并没有,并没有真正涉足医学,但我认为我们有可能在医学领域掀起一场革命。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,像是,实际上有大量药物卡在 FDA 的审批环节,而它们本可以帮助人们,它们就这样陷在官僚主义的泥潭里。
埃隆·马斯克
我的一位好朋友给我讲了一个故事,幸运的是,故事有一个圆满的结局,他的母亲被诊断出患有脑癌。肿瘤科医生说,你知道,没,没有,没有希望了。她,你知道,可能还有4或5个月可活。但我的朋友是,是一个非常聪明、意志坚定的人。而他,他查找,他搜索,你知道,寻找,你知道,有哪些。他和,他和自己认识的每一个聪明的人,聪明的人都谈过。
埃隆·马斯克
然后,然后,然后他找到了一个人,那个人说,是的,实际上有,有一种正在试验中的药,你服下这颗药,它真的能让脑癌消失。真的,你只需要服下一颗药。他就说,什么?
埃隆·马斯克
我想它好像叫 WellyRig 还是什么的,顺便说一句,这种叫 Wellyrig 的药能治愈脑癌。也许应该让更多人知道这件事。
埃隆·马斯克
我想它正在哈佛之类的地方进行试验。
埃隆·马斯克
而且它治好了他的母亲。而且,你知道,所以那件事刚刚发生。我想好像就是今年。但如果我们能够更快地让,你知道,那些了不起的药物通过这套体系,就会有更多人活下来,你知道,而且,你知道,这就是我说,你知道,像是,监管会杀人,过度监管会害死人时所指的那种事情。我们有能帮助人的药物,有些东西卡在审批环节,本来可以帮助人们,但它们却没有。
埃隆·马斯克
这太疯狂了。你知道,所以仅仅是加快药物审批和 FDA 的流程,我认为就会挽救数百万人的生命。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
来自宾夕法尼亚州肖勒,派罗的故乡
观众
Pyrex 就是品质的代名词。康宁玻璃创造了 Pyrex。Pyrex 几乎出现在每一个厨房里,在
埃隆·马斯克
全世界,因为人们喜欢它,喜欢这个产品。而且你知道,除了海盗之外,康宁还创造了 Gorilla Glass。
观众
今天这座场馆里几乎每一部手机都装有它。
埃隆·马斯克
当然。
观众
几个世纪以来,他们以品质和卓越为基础建立了这一切。
埃隆·马斯克
好的。
观众
仅仅在过去几十年里,你就以品质和卓越为基础创建了多家公司。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,关键在于你拥有它。那是什么?
观众
我们能把那把钥匙带到华盛顿吗?
埃隆·马斯克
还有一个后续问题,我们的竞争对手收购了 Pyrex,他们想夺走它的品质。
观众
而且
埃隆·马斯克
当联邦贸易委员会证明存在反垄断问题时,会不会
观众
由你来做我们的白衣骑士?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我是说,在我对政府具有影响力的范围内,我会尽最大努力确保采取能让美国人民利益最大化的行动。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我认为大概会。所以。而且听着,归根结底,我不知道自己会有多大的影响力,但我会尽最大努力,尽可能提供帮助。
观众
你好,埃隆,我只是想像其他所有人一样说声谢谢,感谢你在技术领域的惊叹、参与和贡献。你是否有任何项目或兴趣,为像我这样因遗传性疾病而遭受肾衰竭的人开发肾脏,帮助我们摆脱透析,过上正常生活?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我自己没有任何肾脏项目,但外面可能有些公司在做。而且,你知道,回到监管这个话题,如果我们能有合理的监管,并加快新技术的审批,那么我认为,像新肾脏这样的东西以及许多其他疾病,就能以快得多的速度和低得多的成本提供给美国公众。因为实际上,很多人没有意识到,开发这些新药物、新疗法、新设备的成本中,很大一部分来自施加在公司身上的巨大监管负担。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,我认为我们应该加快新药、新设备和新医疗技术之类东西的审批。然后,只要公司非常清楚地说明益处和风险,是否愿意使用它,就应该由个人决定。
观众
你好。
观众
你好,埃伦。
埃隆·马斯克
而且这是接着那个关于DOGE和医疗支出的问题,因为我是一名心脏外科医生,我从业25年了,所以我见过太多低效现象。是的,绝对如此。当我和医生交谈时,他们告诉我,那里每个人都像是深陷官僚主义和行政事务之中,然后他们还会被、被起诉,你知道,有时甚至被告到破产,简直太疯狂了。没错。
埃隆·马斯克
我们花费了$$4.8万亿美元,但仍然非常低效,成本也极其高昂。所以我想问你的是,匹兹堡。我们有3个声誉很好的医疗系统,UPMC、Allegheny和WVU系统,可以提供领域知识,我们还有卡内基梅隆大学提供工程人才。所以我们需要像你这样的第3个人,能够完成不可能的事情,比如把宇航员从国际空间站带下来,或者用2根筷子夹住一枚250吨的火箭。
埃隆·马斯克
或者在19天内建成一个拥有10万台服务器的服务器农场,而这通常需要4年。所以我认为,我们需要一个像你这样不可能的人来创建医疗AI,而匹兹堡会是做这件事的绝佳地点。所以你能在这里做医疗AI吗?
埃隆·马斯克
我认为AI实际上会给医疗带来不可思议的变化,就像现在的Grok一样,你实际上可以上传一份PET扫描,然后让Grok为你分析这份PET扫描,接着你可以把它与医生告诉你的内容进行比较,看看有什么不同。你完全可以把你的影像上传到Grok,它会分析你的MRI、PET扫描,无论具体是什么,并告诉你它认为可能存在的问题是什么。
埃隆·马斯克
而那还是Grok 2,Grok 3将在几个月后推出,性能会好10倍。所以我认为,它会对医疗专业人员和个人都非常有帮助。因此,我认为这里有许多惊人的潜力。我认为,我们有潜力拥有一个令人惊叹、激动人心的未来,但我们必须努力工作,才能让它成为现实,而且,你知道,回到刚才的话题。我认为,要让这件事成为现实,至关重要的是让特朗普总统当选。
埃隆·马斯克
确实如此。我们再来一次。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,我的意思是,你知道,就像,就像我这该死的后背现在还疼。就像,你知道,就像,你知道,现在都2024年了,我仍然背痛。我相信观众中有很多人也有背痛。你知道,我认为,仅仅解决背痛问题,就会大幅提升人们的幸福感。
埃隆·马斯克
Y。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
观众
嗯,愿上帝保佑你,埃隆。愿上帝保佑你为我们的国家所做的一切。我 而且你已经阐明了。是的。你多么。多么爱孩子,而孩子当然无法保护自己。所以我们必须保护他们。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众
嗯,外面有几部纪录片,真相,讲的是超过300,000名越过边境、开放边境的儿童身上发生的事情,他们遭到了性贩运,却没有人。而且这个数字很可能还非常低。这种事正在这个国家的每一个州发生,尤其是,尤其是像你说的那些摇摆州。我知道,我附近的社区就正在发生这种事。所以制作这些纪录片要花很多钱。
观众
所以观看它们需要付费。最低$10,但对一些人来说仍然很多。你能做些什么,让这些纪录片得到更广泛的传播并更容易观看吗?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,这是个好观点。嗯,我想我确实有一个基金会,也许基金会可以出钱,让它们,你知道,可以免费观看之类的。
观众
它们是《沙地上的一条线》。还有《什么是叛国?》。就这2部。如果你能调查一下,那对那些孩子及其家人来说会非常了不起。
埃隆·马斯克
好的,我会调查一下。
观众
谢谢。
观众
你好。我爱我的Tesla。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。
观众
而且,我钦佩你明确自身愿景、逆向推演并设计解决方案,最终成功实现那些目标的能力。也感谢你把这些能力应用于我们的宪法,并帮助恢复我们的代议制共和国。
埃隆·马斯克
非常乐意。
观众
我、我担心的是那些确实在幕后操纵一切的傀儡师,我称他们为全球阴谋集团独裁统治,因为他们,他们相互勾连,而且根本无意放弃那种权力。他们,他们在特朗普的第1个任期里一直纠缠他,我预计他当选后的下一个任期里,他们还会做同样的事。这一次,你能怎样帮助特朗普消除他们的权力并抑制他们的影响力?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,是的。
埃隆·马斯克
现在,我确实想明确一点,就像,在我看来,我们不应该做他们正在做的那些坏事。你知道,所以,你知道,如果你看看这台机器所、所做的事情,他们试图监禁特朗普总统,他们发动了令人难以置信的法律战,只为阻止人们投票,而这显然是反民主的。但我认为,正确的做法不是照搬他们的所作所为,而是加强法律体系的力量,并对发动法律战的行为施加某种惩罚。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,这个。人们不应以腐败回应体制的腐败,而应清除腐败。
埃隆·马斯克
那才是正确的做法。
观众
你好,埃隆。我叫哈里森·伯克哈特。我在匹兹堡这里住了大约1年半。首先,我只想说声谢谢。你一直是个。我从8岁起就很敬仰你,而我现在19岁,所以显然已经有相当长一段时间了。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我不知道,就你所做的一切而言,你反对封锁,你支持唐纳德·特朗普,你正努力保护美国宪法。你向我证明了,我选择了正确的童年英雄。我只想为此向你道谢。嗯,你这么说真是太客气了,谢谢你,先生。谢谢。那么我想问你,你谈了很多关于如何尽量减少政府干预之类的事情,我只是想知道一些具体的事情。
埃隆·马斯克
比如,我知道约翰·F·肯尼迪曾想把中央情报局炸成100万块碎片。是啊。也许他本不该那么说。
埃隆·马斯克
有什么具体的事情是你想剧透的吗?你不想,你知道,说了那样的话之后肯定不要搞公开警察加薪。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,不,我认为我们显然希望政府没有腐败,而且总体而言,我们希望政府规模更小,因为政府规模越大,个人自由就越少。而且我认为,你知道,这确实就是,就像我说的,人们从这个国家建国以来多年来一直说的核心事情,即自由和机会,而我们想要。而你的自由只是在年复一年地受到侵蚀,政府法律、法规和监管机构越来越多。
埃隆·马斯克
我查了一下,显然大约有428个联邦机构。那差不多是2个。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,确实,违宪。那么你到底为什么需要428个机构?比如,你为什么甚至需要100个?
埃隆·马斯克
这太疯狂了。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,他们目前正以每年2个的速度设立新机构。这是。而其中每一个都在一点点削减你的自由。所以我们必须扭转这个过程,恢复你们的个人自由。随之而来的将是巨大的繁荣和个人幸福,我相信。
埃隆·马斯克
好的,请说,当然。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,有人告诉我,我不能再问你一个问题了。
埃隆·马斯克
请说。
观众
好的。嗯,
埃隆·马斯克
你谈到要把政府规模降到最低。你也想减税吗?例如,美国革命是因为对进口商品征收2%的税而开始的。在减税方面,你想把税率降到多低?是的,一点点茶叶税竟然引发了革命,这相当不可思议,而现在我们身上的活日光都被堆出去了,却似乎没有人。没有革命。我的意思是,你挣的钱要被征税,你买的东西要被征税,你拥有的东西也要被征税。
埃隆·马斯克
而且就像,好吧,这就是,你知道,税、税、税。然后,你知道,这些钱又花到哪里去了?花在了一大堆你甚至不赞同的东西上。所以,你知道,这就是为什么我们需要缩小政府规模,少花些钱,并且,你知道,让人们留下更多自己辛苦赚来的钱。你知道,这。是的。所以。
观众
你好,埃隆。我叫丹妮丝,负责宾夕法尼亚州女性支持特朗普组织,我们是宾夕法尼亚州最大的草根团体。我一生中最美好的一天就是你收购Twitter的那天。真是太棒了。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。
观众
我有一个观点。我确实有一个观点想说。我确实想来为你工作。而且我给了。我知道你最好的朋友们在这里,我把我的所有信息都给了他们。不过,我想知道你是否有解决大型制药公司的办法。作为3个自闭症孩子的母亲,我想知道,就是,我们该怎么对付这些毒害我们孩子的人?
观众
是的,
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我认为透明度和问责制非常重要。
埃隆·马斯克
所以现在你知道了。但我对大型制药公司的看法是,它们有好也有坏。并不全是坏的。显然,大型制药公司和小型制药公司研发出了许多挽救生命的药物,但它们也会犯错。因此,我们只需要确保这个制度确实能帮助制药公司更快地将挽救生命的疗法推向市场。但如果它们做了坏事,也应该受到一些惩罚,就像任何公司一样,你知道,而那,我认为就是那些基本的常识性规则。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
观众
你好,我叫麦迪逊。我22岁,刚刚开始了我的第一份工业控制网络安全工作。所以和其他人一样,我想感谢你在技术领域带来的启发。能够关注你和你正在做的事情,并看到那个领域的一些问题和一些可能性,这很好。但说到政治问题,因为我猜这更适合vu。
埃隆·马斯克
而且说明一下,像是最值得问的那类问题,就是你认为外面的人会想知道什么问题的答案?或者,如果你知道,如果有某条评论或某个问题,你认为也许数百万人会想知道,那,那就是我们在这里要优化的目标。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众
好,那么说到这里,我有点想回到机器人和AI技术的发展上。我认为监管技术本身是一种徒劳的努力。而你显然做了大量研发工作。你能谈谈你在人本开发方面看到了什么吗?因为我认为,这可能是唯一能保护我们、避免事态失控的东西。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我不确定自己完全理解这个问题,但我确实认为,任何被开发出来的特定技术,其目标都应该是帮助人类、给人们带来快乐并帮助人们。而且说明一下,我确实认为监管者有其作用。你知道,就像裁判在体育比赛中有其作用一样。每场体育比赛都有裁判。你知道,今晚的钢人队比赛,他们有裁判。
埃隆·马斯克
而有裁判会让比赛变得更好。但你不希望场上有太多裁判,你知道,多到连跑卫都无法从他们中间穿过去。你知道,就像,就像我接不到球,因为有大约20个裁判挡在我面前。我们今天的工业界就是这种情况,场上的裁判多得太过分了,有时裁判比球员还多。你知道,如果你在体育比赛中看到这种情况,你会觉得,这太疯狂了。
埃隆·马斯克
但是,但是。但是我并不是。我想说明白。比如,我不是说不要监管。我只是说要合理监管。你希望场上有数量合适的裁判,但不要超过这个数量。所以。是的。
观众
你好,埃隆。
埃隆·马斯克
感谢你最近为帮助拯救我们的国家免于毁灭所做的一切。真的非常感谢。不客气。现在流传着一个传言。也谢谢你为帮助这个国家所做的事情。是的,没错。现在流传着一个传言,说你有兴趣投资我们的城市,我希望这是真的,如果是的话,请告诉我可以在哪里提交简历。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我非常喜欢宾夕法尼亚州,而且我认为,你知道,我旗下的某家公司将来很有可能会在宾夕法尼亚州做些什么。来找我。
埃隆·马斯克
我们在办公室投票给谁,最终将塑造我们国家的未来。如果这种说法是真的,那么我们在选举投票时能想到的社会中最重要的成员,就是我们的孩子和孙辈,因为他们没有投票资格,而我们还有其他人出于自私的理由投票。你会不会在……对于重塑选民资格,你有什么看法?为了获得投票资格而必须满足某种标准或准则?
埃隆·马斯克
你的意思是,比如改成活跃纳税选民?哦,好的。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我是说,坦率地讲,如果只是,你知道,由公民投票,我就很满意了。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,我会把那称为胜利。你知道,如果我们能确保只有合法公民可以投票,而这本来就应该是这样,我会说,与我们现在的情况相比,那将是相当大的胜利。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,只是,你知道,我认为选举应该更加透明。选举要最大限度透明。而且正如我以前说过的,我认为我们不应该允许任何形式的投票机。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,我从9岁起就一直在给计算机编程,而且,你知道,我知道写错一行软件或入侵一台计算机是多么容易。因此,我认为我们最不该做的事情就是使用电子投票机。我们要本人到场、出示身份证并使用纸质选票。
埃隆·马斯克
而且。而且。而且实际上,这有点。有点从一种。真正的AI危险的角度来说,希望今年还不会出现,但将来肯定会成为一种危险,那就是高级AI会极其擅长入侵计算机。因此,如果。如果那些。如果你有连接到互联网的投票机,而且你拥有可能影响那些机器的超级高级AI。我认为那非常危险。所以我们实际上。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我要说的是,我只是一个支持技术的人。我超级,你知道,21世纪部分。我就是这里的21世纪科技男孩。而我说投票不要用机器。是的。
观众
你好,埃隆。我叫安迪。我是一名技术专家。
埃隆·马斯克
在那方面,我认为自己和你一样。
观众
遗憾的是,我错过了你上周的Robotaxi活动。我其实拿到了票,但没能去。看起来棒极了。
埃隆·马斯克
对未来感到超级兴奋。
观众
感谢你来到这里。
埃隆·马斯克
说到我的问题。
观众
本届政府没有邀请您和 Tesla 参加电动汽车峰会,这让我感到失望。是的,Tesla 是一家真正伟大的美国公司,理应因其
埃隆·马斯克
推动了人类进步并提供了一个……的技术而受到珍视
观众
数量,大量的美国就业岗位。我的问题是,特朗普政府怎样才能促进汽车、电动汽车和自动驾驶技术行业的增长?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,老实说,我还是回到,回到尽量减少,你知道,政府干预。你知道,总的来说,我非常支持小政府,而且,比如,根本不应该有激励措施、税收减免,或者针对任何事物的优惠。那就应该是,任何事物都没有激励措施。无论是什么,那,那包括石油和天然气、电动汽车,什么都没有。什么都不给激励。你知道,所以,你知道,所以,比如,税法是,是,是,比如,我的意思是,你知道,这间屋子都能被税法塞满。
埃隆·马斯克
它,它就像所谓的。我认为只有,只有 AI 才能理解税法。也许,你知道,我,我认为我们希望拥有一部你作为人类也确实能够读懂的税法,你知道,而不是有,比如,可能有,可能多达 100 万种不同的税收减免或税法漏洞或其他什么。太疯狂了。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,就像我说的,我认为我们希望政府行动最少、人民自由最大,而这会带来最高水平的繁荣。是的。
埃隆·马斯克
鉴于,鉴于本届政府领导下的SEC一直对加密货币采取如此严厉的惩罚性态度,你是否设想XRP账本未来会被纳入金融机构?嗯,我当然不能谈论任何特定的加密货币,但你知道,我确实认为这类加密货币是一道有趣且可能很有价值的、抵御集中控制的屏障。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,这绝对不是对 XRP 的支持或不支持,但,但我确实认为,加密货币就其本质而言,它有助于个人自由。
埃隆·马斯克
好的,那么,马斯克先生,非常感谢您的到来。另外,作为一名匹兹堡球迷,我希望今晚的比赛能见到您。那会相当不可思议。
埃隆·马斯克
我其实很想去现场。我得回去看看我的孩子们。说到孩子。好吧,那么。我的问题,也是我相信数百万美国人的问题,我是一名年轻的企业家和选民,我觉得,政府在很多无用的地方花了太多钱。所以作为一名选民,同样让我非常恼火的是,我们把钱花在海外,却不帮助我们自己的国家,比如现在的北卡罗来纳州和南方地区。
埃隆·马斯克
我想知道,当你进入这里、进入效率政府时,有没有可能,你要怎样帮助我们高效地花钱和使用我们的税款?嗯,是的。嗯,我认为第一步就是少花很多钱。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,首要任务就像是说,对于任何一项支出,我们都应该。我认为我们要对这件事实行零基预算,比如说,让我们从头开始。不是因为,如果一项愚蠢的支出本应为零,那么把它削减 10% 是没有意义的。而且我敢打赌——这不是打赌。我知道有很多。很多事情极其浪费。我的意思是,看看为农村、农村宽带拨出的那种 420 亿美元。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,SpaceX 赢得了其中大约四分之一,然后他们出于政治原因撤销了那份合同。事实上,那本会意味着其中一批终端会部署在受飓风影响的地区。所以那可能已经造成了人员丧生。所以这种政治斗争是不可原谅的。你知道那 420 亿让多少人接入了吗?字面意义上的零。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我会说,那个项目应该归零,因为它的投入产出价值为零。
埃隆·马斯克
你好,埃隆。我 20 岁,我没有去上大学,而是决定创办自己的企业。你的创新精神激励着我。对于像我这样的人,或者对于想在商业上像你一样富有创新精神的我,你有什么建议?
观众
嗯,
埃隆·马斯克
我其实并不是一开始就打算创新。你知道,我认为你应该以这样的问题为出发点,比如,有什么有用的产品或服务,是人们、你认为人们会喜欢的,然后努力把它变成现实。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我认为,只要你踏踏实实地工作,为人们提供有用的产品和服务,我认为你就应该对此感到非常自豪。我非常尊重任何踏实工作、为社会作出贡献的人。所以这才是重要的。
观众
下午好,埃隆。作为直接参与开创太空旅行的人,您对 UAP 坠毁物回收项目以及“纯洁星座”等其他黑色项目之下对先进技术的压制有什么看法,这些技术有可能从根本上改变人类社会?
埃隆·马斯克
我不了解那些项目,但,我的意思是,我当然认为,如果存在能够提供帮助的技术,而且政府知道它,我们显然应该把那项技术提供给民众。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我应该说,人们经常问我,我相信外星人吗?我说,嗯,我曾经就是一个,你知道,按照国土安全部的说法,直到我拿到我的,你知道,我拿到的卡片上真的写着“外国人登记卡”。我心想,酷。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
但是我的意思是,到目前为止,我个人没有,我不知道有任何证据表明地球上有外星人。我不是说他们不。他们不在这里。但我没有看到任何关于外星人的证据。而且对于我们的 Starling 星座,我们甚至一次都不曾需要绕开外星飞船。我们在上面有 6,000 颗卫星。所以,我的意思是,我想说的是,这些外星人非常隐蔽。
埃隆·马斯克
但我认为,如果有什么,比如,我不知道,如果有什么政府知道、而美国人民会觉得有趣或有用的有意思的东西,那显然就要让大家知道。我们应该把它公布出来。所以谢谢。
观众
嘿,埃隆。我叫乔丹·斯科特·吉尔伯特,我是一名百老汇制作人和电影导演
观众
创作保守派内容和基督教内容
观众
用于舞台和电影。如你所知,许多保守派人士和基督徒都被好莱坞和百老汇列入了黑名单。所以我想问你,你是否会
观众
考虑创办一家娱乐公司,既拯救艺术,也拯救西方文明?
观众
你认为艺术在保护言论自由和我们的宪法自由方面发挥着什么作用?
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我认为。是的。嗯,我很高兴你在创作偏右派的艺术。我的意思是,因为我认为,你知道,你不得不问,比如,孩子和成年人从哪里。他们从哪里。他们如何了解到。正在发生什么?
埃隆·马斯克
所创作的艺术传达了什么道德基础?而且应该有更多人创作偏右派的有趣艺术,无论是戏剧、电影还是书籍,因为它绝大多数都偏左。所以我很高兴你在做这件事,也希望有更多人去做。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,坦率地说,我也会欣赏处于中间立场的艺术,那会相当不错。就像,就像,比如我喜欢玩视频团队。问我,比如我的爱好是什么。就像,嗯,你知道,我是个技术宅,所以我喜欢玩电子游戏。所以。所以。然后就像,当电子游戏被某些 DEI 觉醒派的狗屁玩意儿打断时,真的非常烦人。我就想,天哪,我只是,我当时就想,我正在这里玩电子游戏呢。
埃隆·马斯克
你们能不能就别碰电子游戏了?你知道,你不会想做破坏艺术的事情,让人从故事中抽离出来。
观众
你好,埃隆。我叫诺兰·邓肯,我的目标是有朝一日像你一样成功、一样有干劲,让我们地区为我感到骄傲。不过,我们确实有一个共同点,那就是对我们国家的热爱和自豪。总之,我是一名小企业主,也是一名刚刚宣誓就职的消防员,同时还有一份全职工作,不过今天之后我可能就没有了。
埃隆·马斯克
真的吗?为什么?
观众
我迟到了。我迟到了 30 分钟。
埃隆·马斯克
哦,天哪。
观众
好的。
观众
但我这么做,是因为我爱
观众
我们的国家,也爱你们所有为让这个国家再次伟大而奋斗的人。
观众
所以,让我们继续坚持下去。
观众
是的,现在工作多得俯拾皆是。如果有必要,我会再找一份。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我觉得我会没事的。
观众
一年前,我踏上了这段旅程,打算自力更生,并以创业者的身份掌控自己的命运。然而,显而易见的是,我们的政府,更确切地说,是管理政府的那些无能之辈,正在亲手毁掉我们的后代。到了这个时候,我们必须通过更安全、更透明的选举来保护我们的共和国。
埃隆·马斯克
这相当。哦,抱歉,是的,不,我绝对非常赞同。哦,很好。
观众
对这个房间里的许多人来说,这是一个相当新颖的概念,但为了未来,而且鉴于你正在积极参与加密货币。
埃隆·马斯克
需要说明的是,我并没有积极参与加密货币。
观众
不。
埃隆·马斯克
好的。所以不是,我是说,我,你知道,你知道,我是。其实我并没有积极参与加密货币。
观众
哦,不。
埃隆·马斯克
好的。狗狗币,你知道,我会,我会拿狗狗币开玩笑什么的,因为我只是,我有点喜欢狗狗币,因为它最有幽默感,而且有狗和迷因,我喜欢所有这些东西。
观众
这就对了。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
观众
所以,无论如何,您对在未来的选举中实施区块链有什么看法?另外,作为一名内容创作者,X有如此多、如此大的潜力。您会考虑让X成为一股主导力量,与YouTube之类的视频和流媒体平台竞争吗?还有Twitch,以对抗这些让内容创作者充分发挥能力的荒谬政策。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,当然。我们确实希望有一个X。嗯,它确实。它目前确实支持,你知道,最长4小时的视频,而且我们很快会提供,你知道,4K分辨率。我们还在继续改进面向想进行直播的游戏玩家,或任何想直播内容的人的直播能力。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,我们已经取得了很大进展,希望我们能提供一种替代选择。X应用现在可以在大屏电视上使用,所以你实际上可以在电视上看东西。而且,是的,我认为有竞争通常是件好事。我的意思是,竞争就是。竞争让公司保持诚实。是的。谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
首先,我想感谢您拯救民主,以及您对文明作出的所有贡献。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。我的问题是,我24岁。对于想要组建家庭的年轻一代,您会给出什么关键建议?我的意思是,我对组建家庭的建议是立即开始。是的,我觉得人们太担心生孩子了,有时确实很难做到收支相抵之类的。但老实说,真的没有比现在更合适的时候了。生孩子吧。你不会后悔的。事情会顺利解决的。
埃隆·马斯克
嗨,埃隆,感谢您今天来到这里。
埃隆·马斯克
关于您的,关于您的效率部。您认为我们得追溯到多久以前,才能纠正这个国家存在的错误?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我不知道。我的意思是,政府效率部肯定有大量工作要做,而且显然,让政府提高效率会遭到既得利益集团的强烈反对,他们目前正受益于,你知道,吸走巨额纳税人的钱。他们不会喜欢自己再也拿不到这些钱这一事实。他们会拼命抗争。所以。但这件事必须做。
埃隆·马斯克
而且就像我说的,我们的目标将是,你知道,削减政府支出,尽可能让政府退出人们的生活,并恢复自由和自主。
观众
您好,马斯克先生。我叫艾莉·奥菲特,是卡内基梅隆大学共和党人俱乐部的秘书。
观众
在问我的简短问题之前,我非常希望欢迎您的儿子明年加入我们的俱乐部。
埃隆·马斯克
听起来不错。
观众
其次,我只是想问,我想问您,是什么问题促使您涉足政治,又是什么临界点让您真正想要涉足政治?
埃隆·马斯克
是的,嗯,就像我说的,我确实更希望完全不参与政治。而我这次涉足政治领域,是因为我认为利害关系极其根本。我认为民主正处于危急关头。我认为宪法正处于危急关头。而且我担心,如果特朗普不能获胜,我们将会,你知道,我们将会成为一党制国家。它会像加利福尼亚州一样,但实际上比加利福尼亚州更糟。
埃隆·马斯克
因为阻止加利福尼亚州比现在走得更远的一件事,是人们可以搬出加利福尼亚州,同时仍然身处美国。但如果你无处可搬,那么情况就会比加利福尼亚州糟糕得多。这就是我们面临的危险。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是某种压迫性的极权国家,对言论自由施加极端限制,它,你知道,继续实行极端的过度监管,基本上只会让政府变得比今天更加庞大,并夺走人民的自由。所以这不是我想做的事情,但我觉得,做这件事至关重要,否则美国将不再是美国。
埃隆·马斯克
100多年前,尼古拉·Tesla梦想着提供免费且无限的能源,不仅提供给美国人民,也提供给全世界人民。而他面对的是一台肮脏的机器。你知道,就是我们今天正在对抗的同一台机器。就是几十年来一直在压制、使发明家自杀的同一台机器,1951年《发明保密法》就是证明。
埃隆·马斯克
我们需要一个财力雄厚到不在乎别人怎么想、不会任人欺凌,同时又有胆量向对手竖中指的人。不管是通过政府效率还是私营部门,如果您愿意听取建议,我会鼓励您探索这条道路,给地球上的人们,你知道,某种清洁、可再生、高效的东西。想象一下,用以太能量能制造出什么样的火箭。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,如果您想进一步讨论,我之后要去吃寿司,如果您愿意可以和我一起,但我很想听听您对此的看法。嗯,比如有些,我的意思是,我认为我们希望让政府退出人们的生活,把自主和自由还给人们,并允许他们保留更多辛苦赚来的钱。而且我认为这会带来繁荣和更幸福的人民。所以这就是我们的目标。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我再回答几个问题,然后今天就到,就到这里。
观众
嗨,埃隆,我是埃德温。我相信您是我们这个时代的本杰明·富兰克林。也感谢您毫不歉疚地做自己。我的问题是,在您一生中,有好几次,尽管朋友、家人甚至您的偶像都出于好意劝告您,比如尼尔·阿姆斯特朗说,别这么做,埃隆,您还是把全部身家押在了雄心勃勃、几乎不可能实现的目标上。是的,大多数人在那种压力下都会崩溃。
观众
那么,你是怎么做到的?或者说,你是如何获得那种精神韧性,去听取所有那些建议、加以消化、意识到自己很可能会失败,却仍然不顾恐惧去做的?
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我是说,当初创办 SpaceX 和 Tesla 时,你知道,人们都说,你很可能会失败。而我也同意他们的看法。我说,是的,我认为成功的概率不到 10%。但是,但是我觉得,如果我们不尝试在太空领域和电动、电动汽车领域做一些激进的事情,那么,你知道,就什么都不会发生。比如,现有的大公司并没有创新。实际上,在美国,进入太空的成本每年都在上升,而不是下降。
埃隆·马斯克
而且没有,你知道,基本上,我们每年在太空探索方面做得越来越少,而不、不是越来越多。所以我当时想,好吧,即使,你知道,即使 SpaceX 成功的概率只有 1%,那也仍然好过什么都不做。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,我当时就像,你知道,人们跟我讲这个笑话讲了很多次,比如,在太空产业里赚到一小笔财富的最佳方式是什么?那就是先有一大笔财富。而、而我当时就像,我。所以、所以后来当人们,你知道,问我、给我讲那个笑话时,我会说,好吧,我正试图弄清楚如何把一小笔,把一大笔财富变成一小笔。还有,比如,你怎么知道?是的,正是如此。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,所以、所以我们创办 SpaceX 和 Tesla 时,并不是抱着会成功的预期,而是抱着会失败的预期。但我们仍然觉得,这件事足够重要,值得我们竭尽全力去尝试。而我们只是勉强挺了过来。你知道,SpaceX 的前 3 次飞行都没有成功,第 4 次成功了。如果第 4 次也失败,我就没钱了,公司也不会存在。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
Tesla 也是同样的情况。你知道,Tesla 也是一样。2008 年是非常艰难的一年,因为那一年我们遭遇了第 3 次火箭失败,而汽车行业正忙着破产。你知道,通用汽车和克莱斯勒在 2009 年初破产,而在 2008 年末,它们正忙着走向破产。就 Tesla 而言,我们关闭了 Tesla 的融资渠道,我拿出了自己剩下的全部资金,而我们是在仍有可能完成融资的最后一天的最后 1 个小时里完成那轮融资的。
埃隆·马斯克
那是在 2008 年平安夜下午 5 点左右,如果那轮融资没有在那通电话中完成,Tesla 会在圣诞节后 2 天无法兑付工资。
观众
下午好,埃隆。我要感谢你救了我儿子的命,当时他 25 岁,开着他那辆红色的小型 Y 款 Tesla,以每小时 77 英里的速度行驶在收费公路上。一只鹿跳进了车厢,知道发生了撞击。它掀起了前引擎盖。所以这个。那只鹿没有落到我儿子的腿上。所以谢谢你。为此谢谢你。其次,我的问题是。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我们确实如此。
埃隆·马斯克
Tesla 设计和工程的首要任务实际上就是安全。所以这就是。
观众
所以他才买了你的 s。现在他有了你的赛博卡车,他 25 岁,你是他的榜样,他本来要来这里。但他没有拿到票。妈妈拿到了。所以我的问题是,作为一名从教超过 20 年的教育工作者,也是为了持有武器的权利,为什么我们不在公立学校中组建一支由获准隐蔽携带武器的专业工作人员和教职员工构成的队伍,覆盖所有大学、公立学校,并且完全保密、训练有素,以保护我们的学校?
观众
如果我们无法保护、保护我们的孩子,那么你能否设计出设备,让我们的学校和校园能够安然无虞,不受任何以为自己能把我们打倒的男人或女人威胁?
观众
当然。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,你知道,我其实并非什么问题都有答案,所以我正在尽力,你知道,尽我所能回答问题,而且,你知道,希望大多数问题都答对,可能也会答错一些,但是。然后改正那些答错的。但对,我确实认为,我们可以采取一些措施来改善校园和学校的安全。而且我认为,如果有非常值得信赖的老师愿意这样做,我们显然需要确保他们非常值得信赖并且能力很强,如果他们愿意持有枪支来保护孩子们。
埃隆·马斯克
我想我们或许应该让他们这么做。
埃隆·马斯克
好吧,那我就再来2个。就这个问题,再加1个,然后我们今天就到这里。
观众
你好,我是在场的宾夕法尼亚州保守派之一,也是宾夕法尼亚州民主党保守派之一。我的父亲和兄弟分别在众议院任职了24年和22年。反对堕胎、支持持枪权、支持军队、支持第一修正案、支持第二修正案。我的问题是,我的选票没有被计入。我在2016年投票给了特朗普。我在2020年投票给了他。我收到了这封从哈里斯堡寄来的信,说我的选票没有被计入。
埃隆·马斯克
而真正令我担忧的是,我想进一步了解这件事。所以这是怎么发生的?
观众
我不知道。我在投票站工作。我一直都在投票站工作。我在州内层面支持保守派民主党人,在联邦层面支持共和党人,而且就像我说的,我一直都会去投票。所以,得知我的选票没有被计入,而我在两次选举中都投票给了特朗普,这令我担忧,因为我投给我自己兄弟的票也没有被计入。所以我认为,我们很多人都遇到了这种情况。
埃隆·马斯克
没有任何解释。
观众
没有任何解释。我是说,如果我没有收到这封信,我根本不会知道我的选票没有被计入。所以我认为,我们很多人都遇到了这种情况,因为我们正与……站在一起。
埃隆·马斯克
这听起来真的太疯狂了。
观众
哦,我知道。
埃隆·马斯克
而且看来你应该能拿到解释,如果他们这么说,他们就必须给出理由。
观众
没有理由。似乎没人知道。甚至当我打电话时,他们也是一副,我们不知道。我们不。我们不。我们什么都不知道。我只是在这里工作。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我认为我们肯定想弄清楚这种情况有多普遍,而且,你知道,务必使用X平台,把任何你认为有问题的事情公之于众。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,如果我们只是,你知道,我们想调查任何……任何被搞砸了的事情,而这……这听起来相当离谱。至少,他们应该告诉你为什么你的选票没有被计入。我是说,是不是有什么内容你没有填写,还是怎么回事?
观众
哦,不,我去了。我去了投票站,也签了字。我这么做已经有,你知道,40年了。所以,是的,这很奇怪,但我认为,我很可能只是数十万名声音被压制的人中的一个。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我认为最好统计一下,有多少人与你的处境相同。而且可以肯定的是,这确实看起来很离谱。州政府应该必须明确告诉你选票未被计入的确切原因。这样,你知道,你至少能明白是表格出了错。是有什么问题,因为只是说选票没有被计入,却不给任何解释,这是完全不可接受的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
你好吗,埃隆?很好。最近怎么样?我叫Logic。我是来自匹兹堡的创意专业人士,我代表我的人民、我的社区。还有一些我们可能会有的问题,以及一些见解
观众
是我个人得出的;作为这座城市里的一名单亲父亲,我也在努力熬过……的变化
观众
经济状况,因为它变得比我以往所知的任何时候都更糟,还有这次选举的严肃性,
观众
你知道,我自己其实不是一个真正相信投票的人,但我觉得,我不想在这次选举中让任何事情听天由命,而且我知道我们需要
观众
让某个真正能够……的人
观众
以智慧进行领导。
观众
所以,你知道,有很多
观众
我想谈很多事情,但我确实有很多想法。我喜欢你现在正在做的事情,也赞赏你、赞赏你把
埃隆·马斯克
自己置身于这里,你知道,为了做出
观众
这些改变,并承担这些重要的风险。
埃隆·马斯克
我叫Logic。
观众
L H A G I C 点 com。你可以进一步了解我和我所做的事情,这就是我想说的全部。
埃隆·马斯克
好吧,嗯,谢谢你。请,请尽你所能说服人们投票并登记成为选民。
埃隆·马斯克
好吧,我再回答2个问题,然后我得回去看我的孩子们了。说实话,那就是,那就是,那就是我结束后马上要去的地方。
观众
所以我会说得非常快。
埃隆·马斯克
也想赶在睡觉前见到它。
观众
谢谢。非常感谢。这个机会太酷了。非常感谢。情绪化的对话往往会两极分化为输赢动态,而且会有一种个人聚焦或思维,而系统思维,尤其是在涉及关系系统时,表明存在着看不见的力量,可能,可能是进化力量,塑造着像人类这样的自然生命系统如何应对张力。AI可能如何帮助驾驭这些充满火药味的对话?
观众
尤其是如果它是由,带着我们所有人都有的同样盲点构建出来的。
埃隆·马斯克
我,我,老实说我,我不确定。我认为AI,我认为会,它会比人类聪明得多,我认为它或许会有所帮助。就像我说的,它有80%的可能性会带来帮助,也许是90。你知道,我当然可以想象它在,在,你知道,医疗方面非常有帮助,帮助人们了解、变得、变得健康之类的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,但它不是万能药。它会,它会,你知道,它是一把双刃剑。所以我,我,我不确定除了我们只需要密切关注AI,并在看到它正朝着糟糕方向发展时敲响警钟之外,我对此是否有很好的答案。谢谢。最后一个问题。
观众
谢谢。埃隆,非常感谢你来到这里。感谢你的勇气,也感谢你为美国所做的一切。
观众
我的问题与本次选举的投票机有关。有许多功能,这并非详尽无遗。一个切换功能功能,一个乘法功能。从2020年起我就一直等着问你这个问题。你有信心这是一场能够打赢的战斗吗?是否已有计划?是否已有保护措施。你和特朗普总统谈过这件事吗?凭借你的技术专长和更高层次
埃隆·马斯克
的知识,我认为处理这件事,你知道,任何潜在舞弊的最佳方式。我不知道什么是真的,什么不是真的,但我已经明确表达了我的立场,即我们不应该让机器参与其中。我们应该由本人携带身份证件使用纸质选票。
埃隆·马斯克
那才是万无一失的办法。
埃隆·马斯克
尤其是当我们迈向AI未来时,因为就像我说的,AI可能会入侵投票机,然后我们甚至都不知道发生了什么。我们绝不希望投票机连接互联网,或以任何方式实现电子化。所以再怎么强调这一点都不为过。现在关于这次选举,我认为任何形式的投票,你知道,人们有的担忧都应该发布在X平台和所有平台上,而且,你知道,如果你有任何担忧,就要大声说出来,以便它们能够,比如。
埃隆·马斯克
我们照在任何投票问题上的光越明亮,届时发生舞弊的可能性就越低。然后另一件事是,要以如此大的优势获胜,以至于即使存在舞弊,优势也大到足以击败舞弊。
埃隆·马斯克
那么就说到这里,谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
好了,谢谢大家。很荣幸能与你们交谈,我很喜欢这些问题,让我们进入超级硬核模式。记住,只能到明晚为止让人们完成登记。所以请想一想,你们只有一个目标。让人们在明天午夜前完成登记。谢谢。
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Elon Musk
I guess this seat was kind of far away from the stage, So.
Elon Musk
You're most welcome.
Elon Musk
So congratulations.
Audience
Thank you so much. Oh, my gosh.
Elon Musk
Is there anything you want to say?
Audience
Well, thank you so much for. I mean, I truly believe everything you're doing, truly. You don't need to be doing it. I know a lot of us feel the same way.
Audience
Your wealth and responsibility you are using to save speech. And we just all appreciate it. We really do. So thank you so much.
Elon Musk
So, let's see. Good times.
Elon Musk
I always get fired up with the incredible energy from you and, you know. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, this kind of energy lights a fire in my soul. Honestly, it's just great. It's like, really fantastic.
Elon Musk
So let's see.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Elon Musk
You know, some of the things I'll say I've said before because it's important to say them a few times just to make sure people get the message and for people out there that maybe are seeing one of these talks for the first time and maybe didn't see the other talks. So forgive me if some of the things I say are repetitive, but some for people out there, a lot of them haven't heard these things at all.
Elon Musk
Most important is that the registration deadline in Pennsylvania ends at midnight tomorrow. So after that point, people cannot register to vote. So more than anything, it's register, register, register only have until midnight tomorrow. That's. That's. So definitely hound friends, family, acquaintances, people on the street, everyone you meet, to say to. Just. Just to register. We got to register.
Elon Musk
Wow. 90. Amazing. Congratulation.
Elon Musk
That's great.
Elon Musk
I hope I live to 90. So, you know, based on some of the damn hate I'm getting, I might not.
Elon Musk
Well, it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye or an ear or I guess. So then it's just all fun and games with one eye and one ear. Fine, whatever, you know, but hopefully, hopefully, hopefully I don't get shot.
Elon Musk
It's.
Elon Musk
No, but it's like. It's like a real. It's crazy out there, you know?
Elon Musk
Yeah. Well, anyway, you know, there was like. I was just on the COVID of some big, like. I think it's the biggest magazine in Germany called Der Spiegel. I was just like their Time magazine or something saying that I'm enemy number two, you know?
Elon Musk
Yeah. And I'm like, enemy number two of what? Democracy. I mean, I'm pro democracy. All I'm literally trying to do is uphold the Constitution and ensure we have a free and fair election.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I know. You know, I'm Definitely upgrading my security. You know, it's like, so guess I better cancel that open cop parade. Just kidding.
Elon Musk
Maybe I can do open carb raid. But it's, but it's actually like a dummy version of me and then see what happens.
Elon Musk
It's just like an inflatable. I don't know, it'd be quite funny. Just troll them.
Elon Musk
So. No, but I have to admit sometimes I'm a little shook by some of the things that I see, you know, like the level of vitriolic hatred on the left, which is supposed to be tolerant. They claim they're tolerant and yet they're incredibly intolerant and spewing hate. And, you know, whereas on the right, I see, you know, people sort of tend to regard people in the left as, well, misguided, but, you know, don't hate them.
Elon Musk
They're just mistaken. They're misguided. But the amount of hate coming from the left is like, wow, next level.
Elon Musk
Yeah, there's some evil stuff out there. So, you know, I think we should embrace a diversity of views and we should have reasonable arguments and we should have debates and they should be. That's the essence of free speech, is that ideas survive, you know, when they're competing ideas in the marketplace of ideas.
Elon Musk
You know, if somebody says something that's. That's incorrect, then that can be corrected. That's, that's what happens on the X platform. People will say something, then others will add context to it, or they will correct it or there'll be a community note. And this applies equally to the left and right. There's no thumb on the scale like there used to be. And it's, you know, there's no voice on the left that's been silenced, unlike in the past where many voices on the right were silenced.
Elon Musk
But they just don't seem to like the idea that people on the right can say what they want to say within the bounds of the law, which is startling. I mean, the reason for this petition in support of the Constitution is because the Constitution really is under attack. One prominent Democrat after another has been saying that freedom of speech, the First Amendment, is a bad thing. Yeah. John Kerry literally said that. Tim Walls.
Elon Musk
And Tim Walls. Yeah, and Hillary. Yeah, exactly. It's like a long list. They're not like, you know, mid level people in the. It's like the top people in the Democrat Party are saying the First Amendment's an obstacle and then they will refer to it, you know, like they use the word disinformation. Like it's a pretty Good indication that if someone's using the word disinformation a lot, they are the ones creating the disinformation.
Elon Musk
And you know, who.
Elon Musk
If you're trying to figure out who are the good guys, who are the bad guys, the people who are trying to suppress freedom of speech, they are the bad guys.
Elon Musk
You know, so it's actually astonishing that we're even in this position in 2024 in America. It's hard to even believe that this is real. You know, and some of the crazy stuff that I see happening, like, California passing a law making it illegal to require voter ID in any election in the state, like, not even, like, for, like, a city council.
Elon Musk
And a friend of mine went to vote in Palo Alto in California, because he was like, is this real or not? And he, like, tried to show his id, and it was like presenting a cross to a vampire. Like, they're like, no, no, put the ID away.
Elon Musk
You know, like, they literally. They weren't allowed to look at his id, even if he wanted to show it to them. That is the extent of the madness. This is a real thing in California right now. And if. If the dams went nationally, they'll do it nationwide. Obviously, that's what's going to happen, and there will be no democracy. That's. That's why I think this is the most important election of our lifetime.
Elon Musk
President Trump is the only one who can save democracy.
Elon Musk
So. Yeah.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Elon Musk
Fight, fight, fight. Fight. Fight. Fight, Fight, fight, Fight, Fight, fight, fight, fight.
Elon Musk
I mean.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I'm still blown away that this is. This. That a bunch of this stuff is even real. You know, like, and every week that goes by, something crazier happens.
Elon Musk
So. But. Yeah, exactly. They have ruined San Francisco.
Elon Musk
Yeah. And the uk.
Audience
Right.
Elon Musk
Right. There's, like, this movement to suppress freedom of speech.
Audience
Yeah.
Elon Musk
Throughout the world.
Elon Musk
Yep.
Elon Musk
I mean, and the thing is that if. Obviously, indeed, Mars 2028, you know, occupy Mars.
Audience
Yeah,
Elon Musk
So, yeah, exactly. We want to do exciting, inspiring things that make you look forward to the future, you know, like, sending people back to the moon, sending people to Mars, exploring the solar system.
Elon Musk
You know, if you think of, like, if you ask probably anyone in the world, what was the most inspiring thing that humanity's ever done? I bet a lot of people would say we went to the Moon, you know, and. Yeah, well, but the fact that. The fact that, you know, us humans, you know, with all our issues and challenges, were able to go to the moon, and even though it was only a handful of people that went to the moon, in a sense, we all went there.
Elon Musk
We went there sort of with them. We had that experience. Well, I was admittedly one years old, but I saw the videos and it was incredibly inspiring that that is something that humans could do.
Elon Musk
But we want to do more than that in the future. We don't want that to be the best we ever did. We don't want that to be a high watermark. We want to go beyond and we want to have, like I said, like a permanent moon base Alpha and a city on Mars. And you know, I think, I mean, basically the entire solar system would be sick. You know, we want sci fi to be real, not just fiction forever.
Elon Musk
You just generally want to think about the future and say that, well, there's going to be exciting, inspiring things that are going to happen that are better than the past and that's what makes you look forward to the future.
Elon Musk
So, you know, just, you know, to sort of reiterate some of the key principles of what, you know, a Trump. I mean, obviously, I think you guys know, but for people out there who may be listening and especially for independent sort of swing voters who are maybe deciding which way to go, you know, I think with the, with the Trump presidency, we're going to get secure borders, we're going to get safe cities, we're going to get sensible spending, we're going to get deregulation, so we only have sensible regulation and we can unlock the power of the giant that is America.
Elon Musk
And.
Elon Musk
We're going to uphold the Constitution, we're going to strengthen freedom of speech, right to bear arms and the freedoms that people treasure and reduce the burden that the federal government places upon the states and the people within the states.
Elon Musk
Go, go, go. So, so yeah, the Department of Government Efficiency is going to be great.
Elon Musk
You know, what that's going to do is really just take a look at all the federal expenditures and say if something is not, if you're not getting great value for money for your hard earned tax dollars, cancel it. So, yeah, And I regard this as, I would like to say it's a hard job, but actually it's not because there's so much waste. So I actually think this is a, this is a fairly easy job. Although we'll get a lot of opposition naturally from the entrenched interests that get the money and do nothing, you know, nothing good with it.
Elon Musk
They'll be grumpy about it, but the American people will be very happy that their tax dollars are being spent in a much more sensible way.
Elon Musk
And I think we also want to have extreme transparency. You know, so like no shady backroom deals or whatever, everything done in open, total exposure. Like, you can see the mistakes that are made, the good things that are done. You can comment on it, you can, you know, raise concerns. This is, we want a transparent, open government. And you know, because there will be mistakes that are made, but you want to, if there's, if there's, with, with transparency comes trust, you know, and then you can see, okay, we made a mistake, we'll fix that, we'll do that, you know, and, and then, and then you,
Audience
You,
Elon Musk
and that's the best way to restore trust in government. Not that you should trust government, you shouldn't trust government, but it'll be, you can trust it slightly more if there's at least transparency. So those are all the things that I think we get with Trump, on the other hand, you know, with a sort of, sort of the demoshine, you know, there's like almost no point in attacking Common personally because she's just, she's just a puppet of the machine.
Elon Musk
But if the machine takes over, it has another four years. We'll obviously see wide open borders. We'll see our cities get less safe. We'll see extreme spending and inflation. We'll see the freedom of speech get taken away or severely undermined. We'll see the second Amendment right to bear arms severely undermined. They've said they're going to do this. This is not like a secret agenda. This is what they say in public.
Elon Musk
So, you know, just believe them when they say it. And I think,
Audience
well,
Elon Musk
yeah, so, and I think there's other, another significant danger which I think we should consider is that, I mean, there's a massive increase in the number of illegals that are being put in swing states. If you look at the actual numbers on, look, look at the government data. So this is government data reported from a Democratic administration. And you see triple digit increases over the past three years in the number of illegals in swing states.
Elon Musk
Now the goal will then be to, over the next four years to legalize all of those legals. And when you have elections that are sometimes decided by 10 or 20,000 votes and then you sort of put 200,000 legals and legalize them in that same swing state. Now you've got a 200,000 vote advantage and every swing state will be blue and America will be a one party state forever, just like California. And that would be a nightmare.
Elon Musk
Democracy gone.
Elon Musk
That's what I think will happen with the Kamala presidency. Mark my words.
Elon Musk
And this is why people wonder why am I politically active? Because I'm actually. I'm a technologist. I build rockets and cars and stuff. So what am I doing in politics?
Elon Musk
It's not. I don't want to be in politics. I want to be clear. That is not my preference. I just like building stuff. I like building products that people love, and I derive joy from seeing people enjoy the products that my companies make.
Elon Musk
So.
Elon Musk
I like making products people love, and that's what I normally like doing. And I actually don't like politics at all. I hate politics.
Elon Musk
But the stakes are so high here that I have had no choice but to take a stand.
Elon Musk
So it's not something I want to do.
Audience
And.
Elon Musk
Yeah, Thank you.
Elon Musk
Sweet.
Audience
Yeah.
Elon Musk
Anyway, so dramatically increasing my risk of being assassinated and, you know, and engaging in politics are not what I want to do. I do not have a death wish. But the stakes are so high that I really have. I feel I have no choice but to do it. And that's the reason.
Elon Musk
And thank you all for your strong support and everything you're doing to ensure that we have a democracy and that the right side wins. Thank you guys for everything you're doing, and thank you out there.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, I mean, to everyone out there, you know, because I think there's. There's. There's millions of people that will watch this. This town hall and this, you know, this talk and the questions that will. Q and A that we'll do.
Elon Musk
Please, please, if you're in Pennsylvania, sorry for it to be repetitive, but you. You've got less than 36 hours to register. Please make sure you register. Make sure everyone you know is registered to vote. Please make sure everyone, you know, has. Has voted, that they. If they received an absentee ballot, that they. That they. They actually vote. And. And I really, actually advise people to vote early, so vote immediately.
Elon Musk
And you can go in. And it's kind of an odd nomenclature because it says absentee ballot, but you can actually take your absentee ballot and hand it in in person. So then you're like, okay, then, you know, it. You know, you know, it got there. You're literally handing it to the person. You can, you know, probably take a picture of it or something.
Elon Musk
But it's. That. That's incredibly important.
Elon Musk
And, you know, I think, like, a lot of the challenge we face is. Is, I guess, one of. Perhaps, maybe not among. Obviously this audience, but. But some people, we have an issue of apathy where they. Maybe they. They think the vote doesn't count or they don't think it's serious enough. And so for whatever reason, they have not registered to vote and they have not voted. So it's just really important to go out there and explain the importance of this election and how democracy is on the line.
Elon Musk
And this I think is, this might be the very last election that's a real election.
Elon Musk
It's the most important election in your lifetime. And if there's any election where you have a vote, it should be this one.
Elon Musk
So yeah, so let's maybe we can go to Q and A.
Elon Musk
So we can start Q and A if anybody would like.
Elon Musk
Oh, you have to line up proportionally.
Elon Musk
Okay,
Audience
okay.
Elon Musk
Yeah. Second, of course the Second Amendment. That's what our petition is about. Because the reason, like if we lose the Second Amendment, there won't be a First Amendment. The Second Amendment is there to make sure the First Amendment stays strong. Sir.
Elon Musk
Elon, my question is for both you and for Dave McCormick, your guest here tonight. Both of you have experienced incredible success in business and you're both self made men, truly the embodiment of the American dream. I want to know what Dave can do and what you can do in taking that same opportunity to Washington so that others can experience it as well. Yeah, well, I think the things that we've talked about will have a big effect.
Elon Musk
You know, the sheer amount of what I call the strangulation of America by overregulation that is inhibiting progress like preventing new houses from being built, preventing bridges from being built, preventing even trivial things like the boring company for example, is just trying to dig a simple tunnel under a river. Has been waiting two years for a permit, can't get it done. So it's just sitting somewhere.
Elon Musk
I think when Reagan did deregulation in the 80s, there was unleashed a wave of prosperity. I think that's a super big deal. The other thing that's very important that I haven't touched upon is that we need to make sure that America that you get ahead purely as a function of your talent and hard work, nothing else, You know, like racism, sexism in any form is bad. Doesn't matter who it's directed towards. And we want to have the land of opportunity.
Elon Musk
Just it means that you're as good as how hard you work and how talented you are and what contribution you make. And that should be the only, that should be the only thing that matters about getting ahead.
Audience
I just want to know if you are considering running in 2028.
Elon Musk
Well, there'd have to be a constitutional amendment for that. So I, my grandfather was American actually, but I was born, oddly enough, in Africa, which is a strange spawn point. But you know, it's like, so I cannot be president, but as long as I actually don't want to be president. So to be clear, I want to build rockets and cars and you know, so.
Elon Musk
I'm super literal. In fact, you can look at, you know, talks that I gave like 20 years ago and I say the same thing, you know, so it's like, it's not like, you know, just, you know, I believe we want to be a space frying civilization and out there among the stars and we need to, you know, have great rocket technology for that. You know, I believe in electric, electric cars and automation and you know, self driving and robotics and the space based Internet.
Elon Musk
So I just love creating technologies that people find useful and that's what I want to do with my time. So I'm hoping that we get President Trump elected and then I'll work hard on the Department of Government efficiency and then, you know, after that I hope I can not be in politics. That would be my hope. So I, So, you know, like I said, you know, I'm doing this because I think it's critical to the future of the country and if America falls, nothing else matters.
Elon Musk
You know, we're not getting to Mars or anything. So, you know, and I've talked to a lot of people, like leaders in business and technology, because I was like, guys, you should really, you know, you need to go out, go out there and fight hard because, you know, if America falls, your company's going to fall with it. So why aren't, you know, I wish more leaders in business and technology would, would put themselves out there.
Elon Musk
Like they, they usually agree with me and they support Trump, but they're, they're afraid of saying so. And I'm like, man, the stakes are super high. You know, fortunately, more and more people are sort of, you know, coming out of the closet, you know, type of thing. Like, so, like saying this for Trump, it's like, you know, it's like maybe it's probably the most rebellious thing you could do in San Francisco, but it's like, you know, by a long shot.
Elon Musk
So, you know, that's. Anyway, I'm not a natural politician, nor do I wish to be. I just want to make cool technology that you'll love to use.
Elon Musk
Sam, just to. Eli, just to respond to Sam's question,
Audience
what the Democratic Party is running on now is not only anti business, it's anti success.
Elon Musk
And anti business is these huge regulations that are stifling businesses.
Audience
Whether it's dairy Farms or Space SpaceX and everything.
Elon Musk
I mean, fracking.
Audience
I mean, you don't have to ban fracking to ban fracking. You just have red tape and bureaucracy
Elon Musk
and all sorts of stipulations that make
Audience
it impossible to succeed. And on the personal success side, we need to give every single kid the opportunity with great schools to be everything they can be. Our school system needs to be totally
Elon Musk
renovated to give everybody an opportunity. Not everybody. Not everybody needs to go to college.
Audience
They just have to have the skills
Elon Musk
to have a great career in the American dream.
Elon Musk
Yeah, exactly.
Elon Musk
So, yeah. Let's see. Next question.
Audience
Hi, Elon.
Audience
Like Donald Trump and like yourself, I think I am the survivor of an assassination attempt.
Elon Musk
Well, nobody's gotten close enough to shoot a bullet yet.
Audience
Okay, well, like Donald Trump, then.
Elon Musk
There's a couple people that have tried to get close, but they were arrested before they got close.
Audience
Good.
Elon Musk
Yeah, that's good.
Audience
But in my case, my parents hired a hitman, otherwise known as an abortionist doctor.
Elon Musk
Okay.
Audience
To try to kill me when I was in the womb.
Elon Musk
Wow.
Audience
But he was terrible at his job, and I survived. And I'm here.
Audience
Thank you.
Elon Musk
Well, I'm glad you're here.
Audience
Thank you. But so, needless to say, I'm very pro life.
Elon Musk
Yes.
Audience
But even without that, I would be pro life.
Audience
Not even based on religious reasons, but just the moral and rational, logical reasons. And I know that you're a rational person and you are pro humanity.
Elon Musk
Yes, I love humanity. I do.
Audience
I'm just wondering if you would ever consider publicly supporting the pro life movement.
Elon Musk
Yeah. I mean, so obviously this is a contentious topic, if there ever was one. It is perhaps, perhaps the most contentious topic.
Elon Musk
And to be clear out there, President Trump has been clear that he will veto a national abortion ban. So he has said that because the Democrats have said that he will apply a national abortion ban, and that is causing a lot of sort of independent voters to actually not vote for Trump because they think that he will implement a national abortion ban. He has made very clear that he thinks it's a state. It's a state rights issue, and he will veto a national abortion ban.
Elon Musk
So now, you know, there is no answer to this question that will not offend some number of people. But nonetheless, I will tell you what my opinion is, which will certainly offend some number of people.
Elon Musk
My opinion is that if a baby can survive outside the womb, it cannot be avoided.
Elon Musk
It cannot.
Elon Musk
So if a baby can survive outside the womb, if it is far enough in gestation to survive outside the womb. At that point, it is not abortion, it is murder. So obviously.
Elon Musk
Now, part of the challenge here is that the education system has terrified girls and women and relentlessly push the idea that getting pregnant is the end of your life. Like your career is dead, you're ostracized from society. And so when you instill terror in young girls that getting pregnant is the worst thing that could happen. They obviously believe that if they're just kids, and so when that is a deep seated belief that they've been hit within the educational system for a long time, then the idea that they won't be able to get an abortion even in extreme circumstances is obviously a terrifying situation.
Elon Musk
And they will not vote for any candidate who might, essentially, who would stop them from getting an abortion even in extreme circumstances. So this is the issue that we face. It's this relentless push in education, terrifying girls and women that if they get pregnant, their life's over.
Elon Musk
So, and the reality is there's nothing greater than having a kid. And so, You know, I get more joy in my life for my kids than anything else. And that's generally true of all humans. In fact, that is how we evolved.
Elon Musk
It is a very natural thing that you will love your children.
Elon Musk
So, in fact, having a child will make you happier than anything else in your life ever.
Audience
So you get a chance to ask one of the most intelligent men in the world a question.
Elon Musk
What do you ask?
Audience
What are your thoughts on clean energy as far as
Elon Musk
nuclear energy? Nuclear power sure seems to be the
Audience
cleanest or one of the cleanest that we have. And there's talk about developing miniature reactors. Do you think that's where we should
Elon Musk
focus our, our tax dollars on for the future? Well, I am very much pro nuclear. If you actually look at the data and especially if you look at, say, modern nuclear reactors, the modern designs are so safe that if you try to get a meltdown, you couldn't do it. Like, if you went there with flamethrowers and explosives and your goal was to get this thing to melt down, it still won't melt down. That's how good modern nuclear reactors are.
Elon Musk
So they're not dangerous and they're a great source of energy. And I think we should do a lot more nuclear power. I think it's a smart move.
Elon Musk
You know, in Japan, when they had the tsunami and that the Fukushima reactor was taken out, I had people in California asking me if they should be worried about the radiation coming from Japan. I'm like, definitely not. That's insane. And so actually to support the people of Japan, you know, because people were scared to even travel to Japan. I went, didn't go just go to Japan. I went to Fukushima itself. And eight locally grown vegetables on TV and.
Elon Musk
Amazing. I'm still alive.
Elon Musk
Wow. Can you believe it?
Elon Musk
No. We don't need to send the nuclear waste to a different planet. The nuclear waste is very tiny and you can store as much of it as you want on site at, at the nuclear reactor. You don't even need to move it.
Elon Musk
You'll tell me when? Not yet.
Elon Musk
So anyway, I just like, we should be less scared of nuclear stuff. And it doesn't take long to just. I mean, if you just read like the, you know, even Wikipedia level stuff, it's going to make it clear that it's not a scary, it's not a scary thing.
Elon Musk
Now to sort of maybe sort of wax scientific philosophy, you know, philosophically, scientifically. The real massive energy source in our solar system overwhelmingly is the sun. So the sun converts roughly 4 1/2 million tons of mass to energy every second. And it's very reliable and requires no maintenance and no servicing. It's pretty great. No service for all that energy.
Elon Musk
So long term, by far, by far, far, far, the most amount of energy we'll get is from the sun. Solar energy exceeds all other energy by a factor of a trillion. Like literally. Not an exaggeration. So yeah, Yeah, solar flares can take out the grid because the grid's like a giant, like radio, like a radio antenna. So solar flares can't take out the grid. Yeah, I don't know if we have a plan. I suspect we do not have a plan.
Elon Musk
So, you know, Tesla megapacks can, can help buffer the grid and add resilience to the grid. So. And they've done that in many parts of the world, including in the U.S. so let's see. So, yeah. Well, first, thank you for everything, Elon. You're just been incredible for the last 20 years. My question is about the election is, are you concerned about the rise of AI, especially foreign governments? AIs on our election system.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I think we should just in general be wary of AI, domestically or internationally. So, yeah, I mean, I think that, you know, I think like most likely it's. I think it's 80% likely that AI makes the future great and 20% that makes the future really bad. So we want to maximize the probability of it being good. And I think we should be on the lookout for any manipulation domestically or internationally through the use of AI.
Elon Musk
It's going to happen. Hi, Elon. 23 year old native Pittsburgh here, Very appreciative of the love you've shown us during this extremely important time in the election. Thank you so much.
Elon Musk
My question today, Elon, is, I know you're familiar with Pittsburgh because of the work we've done over at CMU in the machine learning, machine discovery field. Yeah. And my question today is Project Mellon is an awesome university. Actually, one of my sons is headed to CMU next year. Great, great.
Elon Musk
My question today, Elon, is in regards to the rumored government efficiency role that you and Trump have spoke about. How can you use this role to work AI in the right direction for all people, not just people like myself who work in the field, but for everyone? I think for young voters like myself, it's something that concerns us as we look forward. So how, as you get more entrenched in public policy, can you help us there?
Audience
Well,
Elon Musk
I'll answer that, but I would actually like to hear. What do you think I should do?
Elon Musk
My, my, I'd like to hear like, I, you know, I'm basically, I'm looking for feedback here is what I'm saying.
Audience
Yeah, my.
Elon Musk
I, oh, congratulations. Awesome. Yeah, great, great. My thoughts are that it's probably the best, best robotics college in the world. So it's a shaky road forward. And I, I agree with you. I, I think 20% could be bad and 20% could be phenomenal. And I think for Pittsburgh, I speak for Pittsburgh here. It is a city that is moving away from steel and into technology. And with people like yourself, if we
Audience
can improve that sector here, I think
Elon Musk
we can improve life here for everyone. And if we can improve life in Pittsburgh, we can use AI and those technologies to improve life for people everywhere. And I think it's through a lack of regulation as opposed to what they're doing in the EU right now, attacking people. And I just was curious on your thoughts.
Elon Musk
Yeah, well, I think we are going to see a massive proliferate, massive increase in the number of robots. And you know, recently Tesla unveiled the latest Optimus robot. And I think that's, that's going to be really cool. I mean, we want to give everyone their own, their own personal C3PO, R2D2, you know, and like, who wouldn't want that? That'd be awesome, you know, even better than that. So I think that's really gonna be.
Elon Musk
Yeah, well, yeah, privacy concerns are significant anyway. But one thing I want to be clear is like, is that I am looking for feedback. So it's not like I'm just going open loop here and doing whatever I want to do. I'm like, I kind of want to know what do the people want and, you know, and what should we do? And then do it, you know, so it's as opposed to me just deciding on my own, like, you know, so, yeah.
Audience
Elon, you're clearly a great American pioneer, and we all in Pittsburgh want to welcome you and thank you for coming. Thank you for taking my question.
Elon Musk
Well, it's an honor to be here.
Audience
This is really the cradle of pioneers in the history of America. People here from George Washington as a surveyor to Lewis and Clark who pushed their Pittsburgh made boat into the Ohio and explored the west to so many industries being born. Radio, the movies. The first refinery for oil. The Pittsburgh coal seems the biggest in the world. The nuclear energy. You mentioned Westinghouse and Tesla creating alternating current out at Rockwell Park.
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The philanthropic industry. Pittsburgh out produced Germany and Japan in steel together during World War II.
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A group of us are starting a movement here. We're calling it Pittsburgh Tomorrow, in which we're trying to rekindle that pioneering spirit. Clearly, your son is all. You mentioned you might want to invest. We believe that not only can we turn around the malaise in America and help make Pittsburgh resurgent, but also by making this a place where people can conceive of a new reality and make it happen, that that can provide the same kind of example that you're striving for.
Audience
So I just want to thank you for being here, and we want to welcome and invite you to invest in our city as we make it the best place to live in the world.
Elon Musk
Sounds good.
Audience
Well,
Elon Musk
I mean. I mean, given that my son will be attending college here next year, I'm going to be in Pittsburgh a lot, so,
Audience
Yeah,
Elon Musk
Going to be waving this towel quite a lot. Good exercise. Loosens you up.
Audience
Hi. I'm here tonight as a sex trafficking survivor, and I am here to ask you personally, Elon, if you will work with sex trafficking survivors and sex workers about our First Amendment rights and how both sex X and U can help both vulnerable communities who already have laws against our First Amendment rights that are on the books.
Elon Musk
Okay. I mean, I'm generally in favor of any policy that maximizes the happiness of the people. So what would you recommend?
Audience
First of all, I'd recommend repealing Fosta Sesta, which was signed on April 11th of 2018 and supported by both parties. What this actually does is it silences certain vulnerable communities, both sex trafficking survivors as well as sex workers from anywhere in the Internet. They shut our websites down. Within weeks, people started to die.
Elon Musk
Both sounds crazy.
Audience
Suicide as well as homicide. Violence is up at an all time high and we are currently being silenced by our government with laws such as Fosta sesto, which violates our first amendment rights. And as a child sex trafficking survivor and a full service sex worker of over 25 years, I can tell you that the resources in Pennsylvania for sex trafficking survivors are going to police to arrest full service sex workers instead of protecting anybody.
Audience
I was abused at age 9, 10 right here in western Pennsylvania.
Elon Musk
Oh, sorry to hear that.
Audience
Thank you. And over 30 years later, there are still zero sex trafficking survivor resources and police continue to arrest full service sex workers and say that they're helping the children, but they're not helping any children. So would you be open to a conversation to work with sex trafficking survivors and sex workers to make X a platform where we are safe and don't get silenced by our government?
Elon Musk
Well, as I've said very clearly, I'm in favor of anything that supports freedom of speech. So any infringement on freedom of speech I would be against. And people should be able to speak their mind. That's the whole idea of the first amendment. And I mean, the priority for law enforcement should be protecting children first and foremost, because they can protect themselves. So protect the kids first, everything else second.
Audience
Hi Elon. Thanks so much for being here. As you know, you're an inspiration to us all, but mostly you're really an inspiration to the young children of America who want to be able to dream big and who want to be able to do things. But the federal government with the Department of Education puts a firewall behind that. They don't allow our kids to dream big. They don't allow them to have free thoughts. They're censored in the classroom.
Audience
They can't talk about the open discourse that you encourage on X. So you're doing that on X. But what can we. I'm a mom of three kids. How can we make this happen in school so that the kids can dream big and achieve what you're dreaming?
Elon Musk
Right.
Audience
Well,
Elon Musk
I do think we need significant reform in education. I mean, the Department of Education seems to regard as its primary duty foisting propaganda on our children as opposed to getting them a good education. That's insane. You know, it's. I mean, we should be just the priority should be teach kids skills that they will find useful later in life and leave any sort of social propaganda out of the classroom.
Audience
Okay, I got a foreign policy type question for You. So in Israel, they have free health care, they have free college.
Elon Musk
We don't have it in this country yet.
Audience
Every year we send them $3.8 billion.
Elon Musk
Last year, in addition to the 3.8
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billion, we sent them another $14.3 billion. So why should we, as taxpayers keep funding that lifestyle in Israel? And second question, real quick. We also have our politicians bought and paid for by aipac. Because AIPAC sends back the money, we send them into the tune of $100 million. How can you fix that for us?
Elon Musk
Well, I think we need to look, take a look at all federal expenditures and say, you know, all federal expenditures and say, is this really benefiting the American people or is it not? And if it is, well, are we spending it wisely? Usually the answer is no. So then we should spend less money and spend it efficiently. But there's got to be a clear benefit to the American people or we shouldn't be spending money.
Elon Musk
Eli, I just want to say I'm a huge fan. I wasn't an X user after you bought it. I became an X user. Thank you. Please encourage everyone, you know, to, you know, premium. I'm a premium X user. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd just like to thank everyone who's. Who's a sort of a paid subscriber on X. This. It's really important because it, you know, otherwise we're totally beholden to the advertisers. And, you know, so when you subscribe, you're helping.
Elon Musk
You're helping with freedom of speech. So thank you for subscribing. Yeah. And as I became an X user, I did bought Tesla, which I love. And just recently, I ordered Starlink because of what you did for all the hurricane victims, right,
Audience
Elon?
Elon Musk
My son and I are huge fans. So my son is in the line over there.
Audience
He.
Elon Musk
Literally every single word you speak, he takes to heart. He got married at age 17. Wow. And he has two children. And his goal is to have more children than you. Elon, that is a great goal. Honestly, like. Like the. The birth rate issue is a massive problem. Problem. Yeah. So I'm, I'm. I mean, that is great. Like, we need people. Yeah. It's like, if you don't make new humans, there's no humanity. It's like, they don't come from nowhere.
Elon Musk
Yeah. You got to make them. And it takes. It's really hard to make kids. It takes a long time for them to grow up. And there's a lot of diapers involved. But. But kids are the most wonderful thing that you'll ever have in your life. And you know, it's, I would say start early. So I'm glad to hear your son's doing that. So we will keep supporting Elon. The quote that comes to me thinking of you is the only thing necessary for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing right.
Elon Musk
And what you've done the last two years is stood up and spoke. And now evil is getting tamped down. And we appreciate your courageous leadership. Thank you, sir.
Audience
Thank you, Elon. So much of campaign messaging is about fixing current problems where I think future aspirations for the country often don't get discussed as much.
Elon Musk
You obviously have some pretty large goals for your companies. So with years of good leadership and
Audience
common sense policies implemented under a Trump presidency, describe your utopia, America, and describe the long term achievements that you believe can be possible. Thank you. Sure.
Elon Musk
Well, first of all, I should say that I think America is great.
Elon Musk
And I think we want to make sure that the fundamental elements that have made America great remain in place.
Elon Musk
And those fundamental elements are freedom and opportunity. So maximizing individual freedom, minimizing government interference, and making sure that you get ahead as a function of your hard work and talent. And that's the only thing. If we have those fundamental things and the Constitution stands strong, America will get greater and greater.
Elon Musk
So that's really important. But to your point, we have to have a combination. We have to do both things. We have to solve the problems that we face, but we must also have exciting, inspiring goals. Because life can't just be about solving one miserable problem after another. I mean, that's like, it's hard to get fired up about, okay, we've got another problem to solve. There's got to be things that you're excited about in the future that move your heart.
Elon Musk
You know, you're like, wow, I can't wait to see that happen. You know, so that's the kind of thing where, like, you know, where we want optimism about the future, optimism that is grounded on realism. And so, you know, I think, you know, grand projects, you know, revolutionizing the transport, you know, I mean, obviously I've got, I've got some ideas and probably other people have ideas too.
Elon Musk
You know, I think it's possible, although I'm not, not really involved in medicine outside of neuralink, I think it's possible for us to have a revolution in medicine.
Elon Musk
You know, like, there are actually a huge number of drugs that are stuck in approval at the FDA that can help people, and they're just stuck in bureaucratic Molasses.
Elon Musk
And a good friend of mine was telling me a story that fortunately had a happy ending, where his mom was diagnosed with brain cancer. And the oncologist said, you know, there's, there's, there's no chance. It's, you know, it's got maybe four or five months live. But my friend is, is a very smart, determined person. And he, he looked, he searched, you know, for, you know, what are. He talked to, he talked to every smart people, smart person he knew.
Elon Musk
And, and, and he found someone who said, yeah, actually there's, there's a drug that's, that's in trials that you take this pill and it actually makes the brain cancer go away. Literally, you just take a pill. He's like, what?
Elon Musk
And I think it's called like WellyRig or something, FYI, this drug called Wellyrig that solves brain cancer. Maybe more people should know about this.
Elon Musk
And I think it's in trials at Harvard or something.
Elon Musk
And it cured his mom. And, you know, so that just happened. I think it was like this year. But if we could just be faster about getting, you know, amazing drugs through the system, a lot more people would be alive, you know, and, you know, that's the kind of thing when I say like, you know, like regulation kills, overregulation kills people. We've got helpful drugs, stuff stuck in approvals and could be helping people, but they're not.
Elon Musk
That's crazy. You know, so simply expediting drug approval and the fda, I think will save millions of lives.
Elon Musk
So.
Elon Musk
From Shawler, Pennsylvania, the home of Pyro
Audience
Pyrex is synonymous to quality. Corning Glass created Pyrex. Pyrex is in almost every kitchen in
Elon Musk
the world because the people love it, the product they love. And you know, along with pirates, Corning created Gorilla Glass.
Audience
That's in almost every phone in this facility today.
Elon Musk
Sure.
Audience
They built that on quality and excellence over centuries.
Elon Musk
Okay.
Audience
You have created multiple companies on quality and excellence in just the last few decades.
Elon Musk
You know, the key to that is you have it. And what is that?
Audience
Can we bring that key to Washington?
Elon Musk
And one follow up is our competition bought Pyrex and they want to rip away the quality.
Audience
And
Elon Musk
when the FTC proves antitrust, will
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you be our white knight?
Elon Musk
Well, I mean, to the degree that I'm influential in government, I will do my best to ensure that actions are taken that maximize the benefit to the American people.
Elon Musk
So I think probably yes. So. And look, I don't know at the end of the day how much influence I'll have, but I'll do my best to be as helpful as possible.
Audience
Hi Elon, I just want to say thank you like everybody else has too, with your amazement, involvement and contributions in technology. Do you have any projects or interest in developing kidneys for people like myself who suffer from hereditary diseases in kidney failure to help us get off of dialysis and move into a normal life?
Elon Musk
Well, I do not have any kidney programs myself, but there might be some companies out there that do. And you know, just to get back to the regulation thing, it's, you know, if we can have sensible regulation and fast track approvals of new technologies, then I think things like new kidneys and many other ailments can be available to the American public much faster and at a much lower cost. Because actually a lot of people don't realize a lot of the cost of developing these new medications and new cures, new devices is the massive regulatory burden that is placed upon companies.
Elon Musk
So you know, I think we ought to expedite approvals, you know, for new drugs, new devices and new medical technology things. And then as long as companies very clearly describe the benefits and the risks, it should be up to the individual as to whether they want to use it.
Audience
Hi.
Audience
Hi Ellen.
Elon Musk
And it's to tag on the, the question about DOGE and the healthcare expenditure because I'm a heart surgeon, I'm in the practice for 25 years, so I seen so many inefficiencies. Yes, absolutely. When I talk to doctors, they tell me it's, it's everyone there was like they're mired in bureaucracy and administrative stuff and then they get, get sued, you know, like sued to bankruptcy sometimes and it's just crazy. That's right.
Elon Musk
$$4.8 trillion we spend and still very inefficient and highly costly. So my question to you is Pittsburgh. We have a very well reputed three healthcare systems, upmc, Allegheny and WVU Systems to provide the domain knowledge and we have a Carnegie Mellon for engineering talent. So we needed a third guy like you who can do the impossible things like bringing the astronaut from the International Space Station down or catching a 250 ton rocket with two chopsticks.
Elon Musk
Or build a hundred thousand server farm in 19 days which normally takes four years. So I think we need a guy like you impossible to create a healthcare AI and Pittsburgh will be a great place to do it. So can you to do healthcare AI here.
Elon Musk
I think AI is going to be incredible for medicine actually as it is for Grok right now you can actually upload a PET scan and ask Grok to analyze the PET scan for you and then you can compare that to what a doctor tells you and see what the difference is. You can literally upload your image to Grok and it will analyze your mri, your PET scan, whatever the case may be, and tell you what it thinks the probable issue is.
Elon Musk
And that's with Grok 2 and Grok 3 will be out in a few months and it'll be 10 times better. So I think it'd be really helpful to medical professionals and to individuals. So I think there's a lot of amazing potential. I think there's the potential for us to have an amazing, exciting future, but we just have to work hard to make that happen and you know, to circle back. I think essential to making that happen is electing President Trump.
Elon Musk
Indeed. Let's do that again.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, I mean, you know, it's like, it's like my friggin back still hurts. It's like, you know, it's like, you know, here's 2024 and I still have back pain. I'm sure a lot of people in the audience have back pain. You know, it's just solving back pain I think would be a massive increase in people's happiness.
Elon Musk
Y.
Elon Musk
So.
Audience
Well, God bless you, Elon. God bless you for what you are doing for our country. I And you have articulated. Yes. How. How you love children and children cannot protect themselves, of course. So we must protect them.
Elon Musk
Yes.
Audience
Well, there are a couple of documentaries, truth, that are out there about what's happened to over 300,000 children who have crossed the borders, the open borders, and they have been sex trafficked and nobody. And that's probably a very low number. And it's happening in every state in this country and especially, especially like you said, the swing states. I know that it's happening in communities near me. So these documentaries cost a lot to make.
Audience
So there is a charge to watch them. $10 minimal, but still extensive for some. Is there anything that you can do to make these documentaries more widespread and available?
Elon Musk
Well, that's a good point. Well, I guess I do have a foundation and maybe the foundation could pay to have them, you know, available for free or something like that.
Audience
They're a line in the sand. And what is treason? Just two of them. If you could look into that, that would be amazing for those children and their families.
Elon Musk
All right, I'll look into it.
Audience
Thank you.
Audience
Hi. I love my Tesla.
Elon Musk
Thank you.
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And I admire your ability to define what your vision is and to work backwards and engineer solutions to successfully achieve solutions to those. And thank you for applying those to our Constitution and to help restore our representative republic.
Elon Musk
You're most welcome.
Audience
My, my concern is the puppet masters that indeed behind the scenes and they, I call them global cabal dictatorship because they have, they're connected and they have no intention of giving up that power. They, they dogged Trump in his first term, and I anticipate them doing the same in the next when he's elected. How can you help Trump remove their power and damper their influence this time around?
Elon Musk
Well, yeah.
Elon Musk
Now, I do want to be clear that, like, in my opinion, we should not do the bad things that they are doing. You know, so, you know, the, if you look at what the machine is, has done, they've tried to imprison President Trump, they've engaged in unbelievable lawfare just to stop people from voting, which is obviously anti Democratic. But I think the right thing to do is not to do what they've done, but rather to reinforce the strength of the legal system and for there to be some kind of punishment for engaging in lawfare.
Elon Musk
So, you know, it's. One should not respond to corruption of the system with corruption, but with removal of corruption.
Elon Musk
That's the right thing.
Elon Musk
Hello, Elon. My name is Harrison Burkhart. I've lived in here for about a year and a half in Pittsburgh. First of all, I just want to say thank you. You've been a. I've looked up to you since I was 8 years old, and I'm 19 now, so that's obviously a significant amount of time.
Audience
Thanks.
Elon Musk
And I don't know, with everything you've done, you were against lockdowns, you've endorsed Donald Trump, you're trying to protect the American Constitution. You've proven to me that I chose the right childhood hero. And I just want to say thank you for that. Well, just kind of you to say thank you, sir. Thank you. So my question for you, you've talked a lot about how you want to minimize government intervention and all that, and I was just wondering specific things.
Elon Musk
I know, for example, John F. Kennedy wanted to blow the CIA up into a million pieces. Yeah. Maybe he should have not said that.
Elon Musk
Is there anything specific that you want to spoil it? You don't want to, you know, definitely don't do open cop raise after saying something like that.
Elon Musk
So, no, I think we obviously want to not have corruption government, and in general, we want to have smaller government because the larger government gets the less individual freedom you have. And I think, you know, that's really the like, as I said, the core things people have said for many years from the founding of the country was that freedom and opportunity and we want to. And your freedoms have just been eroded year after year with more and more government laws and regulations and regulatory authorities.
Elon Musk
When I looked it up, there's apparently there's like 428 federal agencies. That's like almost two.
Elon Musk
Yes, indeed, unconstitutional. So what the hell do you need 428 agencies for? Like, why do you even need 100?
Elon Musk
This is crazy.
Elon Musk
So, you know, they're currently making new agencies at a rate of 2 per year. This is. And every one of them is chipping away at your freedom. So it's essential for us to unwind that process and restore your personal freedom. And with that will come great prosperity and personal happiness, I believe.
Elon Musk
Yeah, go ahead, sure.
Elon Musk
Well, I'm being told I can't ask you another one.
Elon Musk
Go ahead.
Audience
All right. Well,
Elon Musk
you talk about minimizing government. Would you want to make tax cuts too? For example, the American Revolution was started over a 2% tax on imports. How low would you want to go as far as cutting taxes? Yeah, it's pretty wild that a tiny tax on tea started the revolution and now we get the living daylight stacks out of us and nobody seems to. There's no revolution. I mean, you get taxed on what you earn, you get taxed on what you buy, and you get taxed on what you own.
Elon Musk
And it's like, okay, this is, you know, taxes, taxes, taxes. And, you know, and then what does it get spent on? A bunch of the stuff it gets spent on you don't even agree with. So, you know, that's why we need to reduce the size of government and just spend less money and, you know, let the people keep a lot more of their hard earned money. You know, it's. Yeah. So.
Audience
Hi, Elon. My name is Denise and I run Pennsylvania Women for Trump, where Pennsylvania's largest grassroots group. And the best day of my life is when you bought Twitter. It was so freaking awesome.
Elon Musk
Thank you.
Audience
I have a point. I do have a point to make. I do want to come work for you. And I gave. I know your best friends here and I gave them all my information. But anyway, I would like to know if you have a solution to Big Pharma. As a mom of three kids with autism, I would like to know, like, what are we going to do about these people poisoning our children?
Audience
Yeah,
Elon Musk
well, I think transparency and accountability are very important.
Elon Musk
So now you know. But my opinion of Big Pharma is that there's good and bad. It's not all bad. Obviously there are many life saving drugs that are developed by the big pharma companies and small pharma companies, but there are also mistakes that they make. And so we just need to make sure that the system is actually helping the pharma companies bring life saving cures to market faster. But also that there should be some punishment if they do bad things, just like for any company, you know, and that's, I think it's those just basic common sense rules.
Elon Musk
So.
Audience
Hi, my name is Madison. I'm 22 years old and I just started my first position in industrial controlled cybersecurity. So like everyone else, I want to say thank you for the inspiration you've been in technology. It's been nice to look at you and what you're doing and see kind of the issues and some of the possibilities in that realm. But for political questions, because I'm assuming that's more appropriate for the vu.
Elon Musk
And to be clear, like the kind of questions that are, that are the best questions to ask are what do you think people out there would like to know the answer to? Or if you know, if there's a comment or a question that you think maybe millions of people would like to know, that's, that's what we're optimizing for here.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Audience
Okay, so on that note, I kind of want to go back to the robotics and AI technology developments. I think that regulating the technology itself is a vain effort. And you've obviously worked in the development a lot. Can you speak to kind of what you've seen about human centric development? Because I think that might be the only thing that's going to protect us from things getting out of hand.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I'm not sure I totally understand the question, but I do think that any given technology that's developed, the goal of it should be to help humanity and to bring joy to people and help people. And so that's to be clear, I do think there is a role for regulators. You know, just like there is a role for referees in a sports game. Like every sports game has referees. You know, tonight's Steelers game, they got referees.
Elon Musk
And it's a better game for having referees. But you don't want to have so many refs on the field, you know, that the running back can't even get through them. You know, it's like, it's like I can't catch the ball because I have like 20 referees in my way. That's the situation we have in industry today is far too many refs on the field, sometimes more refs than players. You know, and if you saw that in a sports game, you're like, this is crazy.
Elon Musk
But, But. But I'm not. I want to be clear. Like, I'm not saying no regulation. I'm just saying sensible regulation. You want the right number of referees in the field, but not any more than that. So. Yeah.
Audience
Hi, Elon.
Elon Musk
Thank you for everything you've done recently to help save our country from ruin. It's really appreciated. You're most welcome. There's a rumor floating. Thank you for doing things to help the country, too. Yeah, that's right. There's a rumor floating around that you have interest in investing in our city, which I hope is true, and if so, let me know where I can submit my resume.
Elon Musk
Well, I'm a big fan of Pennsylvania, and I think there's, you know, there's a good chance that one of my companies does something in the future in Pennsylvania. Go see me.
Elon Musk
Who we vote for in our office will ultimately shape the future of our country. If that statement is true, the most important members of our society that we can think about when voting in elections would be our children and our grandchildren, since they are not eligible to vote and we have others voting for selfish reasons. Would you be in. What would be your thoughts on reshaping voter eligibility? Some sort of criteria or guidelines that must be met in order to vote?
Elon Musk
You mean like changing being an active tax voter? Oh, okay.
Elon Musk
Well, I mean, frankly, I'd be happy if it was just that, you know, citizens voted.
Elon Musk
You know, I call that a win. You know, if we can just make sure that only legal citizens can vote, which is how it's supposed to be, I'd say that would be quite a victory compared to where we have right now.
Elon Musk
So just, you know, I think having more transparency on elections. Maximum transparency on elections. And as I've said before, I think we should not allow voting machines of any kind.
Elon Musk
So, you know, I've been programming computers since I was nine years old, and, you know, I know how easy it is to get a line of software wrong or hack a computer. And so I think the last thing we want to do is have electronic voting machines. We want paper ballots in person with id.
Elon Musk
And. And. And actually, it sort of. Sort of in terms of an. Of a real AI danger that hopefully is not there this year, but will certainly be a danger in the future is that advanced AI will be super good at hacking computers. And so if. If those. If you have Voting machines that are connected to the Internet and you've got super advanced AI that can potentially affect those machines. I think that's very dangerous. So we actually.
Elon Musk
So what I'm saying is that I'm only someone who favors technology. I'm super, you know, 21st section. I'm 21st century technology boy right here. And I'm saying no machines for voting. Yeah.
Audience
Hi, Elon. My name's Andy. I'm a technologist.
Elon Musk
I consider myself like you in that way.
Audience
Sadly, I missed you at the Robotaxi event last week. I actually got a ticket, couldn't make it. Looked amazing.
Elon Musk
Super excited for the future.
Audience
Thank you for being here.
Elon Musk
Onto my question.
Audience
I was disappointed by the current administration's lack of inclusion of you and Tesla at the EV Summit. Yeah, Tesla is a truly great American company that should be cherished for its
Elon Musk
technology that's advanced humankind and provided a
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number, a large number of American jobs. My question is, how can the Trump administration kindle the growth of the automotive, EV and autonomous tech industries?
Elon Musk
Well, honestly, I go back to, to minimizing, you know, government intervention. You know, in general, I'm very much in favor of small government and that, like, there shouldn't be incentives, tax breaks, or for anything at all. That would be like, no incentives for anything at all. Whether it's that, that includes oil and gas, electric cars, no nothing. No incentives for nothing. You know, so, you know, so like the, the tax code is, is, is like, I mean, you know, you could fill this room with the tax code.
Elon Musk
It's, it's like so called. I think only, only an AI could even understand the tax code. Maybe, you know, I, I think we want to have a tax code you can actually read both as a human, you know, instead of having, like, there might be, it might be upwards of a million different tax breaks or tax loopholes or whatever. It's insane.
Elon Musk
So, you know, like I said, I think we want minimal government action and maximum freedom for the people, and that is what leads to the highest level of prosperity. Yeah.
Elon Musk
Given how, given how punitive the SEC has been towards crypto under this administration, do you envision the XRP ledger being incorporated into the financial institutions in the future? Well, I certainly cannot speak to any specific crypto, but, you know, I do think that the sort of cryptocurrency is an interesting and probably valuable bulwark against a centralized control.
Elon Musk
So, you know, and this is definitely not an endorsement or lack of endorsement for xrp, but, but I do think crypto by, by its very nature, Is it helps with individual freedom.
Elon Musk
All right, so, Mr. Musk, thank you very much for coming. Also, as a Pittsburgh fan, I hope to see you at tonight's game. That'd be pretty incredible.
Elon Musk
I actually would love to be there. I got to get back and see my kids. Speaking of kids. Okay, so. So my question, as well as I'm sure many millions of Americans, I'm a young entrepreneur and voter, we are spending so much money in a lot of useless ways, I feel, in the government spending. So a lot of that also is very irritating as a voter is the money that we are spending overseas in not helping our own country, like in North Carolina and down south right now.
Elon Musk
I want to know, is it possible when you get in here into the government of efficiency, how are you going to help us with spending money efficiently and using our tax money? Well, yeah. Well, I think the step number one is spend a lot less of it.
Elon Musk
So it's like the first order of business is to say, any given expenditure, we should. I think we want to zero budget the thing, say, like, let's start from scratch. Not because it doesn't make sense to reduce a foolish expenditure by 10% if it should be zero. And I bet there's not a bet. I know there's a lot of. Lot of things that are super wasteful. I mean, look at the sort of $42 billion that's been allocated for rural rural broadband.
Elon Musk
You know, SpaceX won like a quarter of it, and then they rescinded that contract for political reasons. And in fact, it would have meant a bunch of those terminals would have been in the affected hurricane areas. So that could have cost lives. So that kind of political warfare is unconscionable. And you know how many people have been connected by that? 42 billion. Literally zero.
Elon Musk
So I would say that program should be zero because value for money is zero.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon. I'm 20 years old, and instead of going to college, I decided to start my own business. Your innovativeness inspires me. What is a piece of advice you would have for someone like me or me to be as innovative as you are in business?
Audience
Well,
Elon Musk
I didn't really set out to be innovative. You know, I think you want to set out with saying, like, what's a useful product or service that people, you think people would like and then try to make that thing real.
Elon Musk
And I think as long as you're doing an honest day's work and providing useful products and services to people, I think you should be very proud of that. I have a huge Respect for anyone who puts in an honest day's work contributing to society. So that's what matters.
Audience
Good afternoon, Elon. As somebody who is directly involved in the pioneering of space travel, was your perspective on the suppression of advanced technologies under UAP crash retrieval programs and other black projects such as Immaculate Constellation, that have the potential to fundamentally change human society?
Elon Musk
I'm not familiar with those programs, but, I mean, I certainly think if there are technologies that can be helpful, the government's aware of it. We should obviously provide that technology to the people.
Elon Musk
So I should say that people often ask me, do I believe in aliens? And I said, well, I was one, you know, according to Homeland Security, until I got my, you know, I got it literally said alien registration card. I'm like, cool.
Elon Musk
So.
Elon Musk
But I mean, thus far, I have not personally, I'm not aware of any evidence for aliens on Earth. I'm not saying they don't. They're not here. But I have not seen any evidence for aliens. And for our Starling Constellation, we have never had to maneuver around an alien spacecraft even once. And we've got 6,000 satellites up there. So, I mean, they're very subtle is what I'm saying, these aliens.
Elon Musk
But I think if there's, like, I don't know, if there's interesting stuff that's that the government's aware of that American people would find interesting or useful, which obviously make that known. We should publish it. So thank you.
Audience
Hey, Elon. My name is Jordan Scott Gilbert, and I'm a Broadway producer and movie director
Elon Musk
who creates conservative content and Christian content
Audience
for stage and film. As you know, a lot of conservatives and Christians have been blacklisted from Hollywood and Broadway. So my question to you is, would
Elon Musk
you consider creating an entertainment company to also save art as well as Western civilization?
Audience
And what role do you think art plays in protecting freedom of speech and our constitutional freedoms?
Elon Musk
Yeah, I think. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you're making art that is on the right. I mean, it's because I think, you know, you have to say, like, where do kids and adults. Where do they. How do they get informed of what. What's going on?
Elon Musk
What moral underpinnings are conveyed in the art that is produced? And there should be more people that are making interesting art, whether it's plays, movies, books that are on the right, because it's overwhelmingly on the left. So I'm glad you're doing this, and I hope more people do it.
Elon Musk
I mean, I'd appreciate just art that's in the center, frankly, It'd be quite nice. It's like, it's like, like I enjoy playing video crew. Ask me like what my hobbies are. It's like, well, you know, I'm a technology nerd, so I like playing video games. So. So. And it's like, it's really annoying when video game gets interrupted by some DEI woke bullshit. And I'm like, jesus, I just, I was like, I was playing a video game here.
Elon Musk
Can you just leave the video games alone? You know, you don't want to do things that damage art so it breaks you out of the story.
Audience
Hi, Elon. My name is Nolan Duncan and it's my goal to one day make our region proud by being just as successful and driven as you. One thing we do share though is the love and pride of our country. Anyway, I'm a small business owner, a recently sworn in firefighter, all while having a full time job, which I may not have after today.
Elon Musk
Really? Why not?
Audience
I'm late. I'm 30 minutes late.
Elon Musk
Oh, geez.
Audience
Okay.
Elon Musk
But I'm doing this because I love
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our country and I love all of you who are fighting to make this country great again.
Elon Musk
So let's keep it up.
Audience
Yes, Jobs are all a dime a dozen anymore. I'll find a new one if I have to.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I think I'll be fine.
Audience
I began this journey a year ago with the intent to become self sufficient and take control of my destiny as an entrepreneur. However, it is utterly apparent that our government, rather the incompetents who run it, are self sabotaging our future generations. And at this point, it is imperative that we protect our republic with safer and transparent elections.
Elon Musk
This is rather. Oh, I'm sorry, yeah, no, I absolutely, very much agree. Oh, good.
Audience
This is a rather novel concept to many in this room, but for the future, and since you are actively involved in cryptocurrency.
Elon Musk
I'm not actively involved in crypto, to be clear.
Audience
No.
Elon Musk
Okay. So no, I mean, I, you know, you know, I am. I'm actually not actively involved in crypto.
Audience
Oh no.
Elon Musk
Okay. Dogecoin, you know, I make, I make dogecoin jokes and stuff because I just, I kind of like dogecoin because it's got the best sense of humor and it has dogs and memes and I love all those things.
Audience
There you go.
Elon Musk
So.
Audience
So anyway, what are your thoughts on implementing the blockchain for future elections? And also as a content creator, X has so many, so much potential. Would you consider making X a dominant force against video and streaming platforms such as YouTube? And Twitch to compete against these ridiculous policies that empower content creators to their fullest.
Elon Musk
Yeah, absolutely. We definitely want to have an X. Well, it does. It does currently enable, you know, up to four hour videos and we'll soon be offering, you know, 4K resolution. And we're continuing to improve our streaming capability for gamers that want to stream or anyone that wants to stream content.
Elon Musk
So, you know, we've made a lot of progress and hopefully we can offer an alternative. The X app is now available on big TVs, so you can actually watch stuff on TVs. And yeah, I think it's generally good to have competition. I mean, competition is what. Competition keeps companies honest. Yeah. Thank you.
Elon Musk
First off, I wanted to thank you for saving democracy and all your contributions to civilization.
Elon Musk
Thank you. My question is, I'm 24 years old. What key advice would you give to the younger generation wanting to start a family? I mean, my advice regarding starting a family is start immediately. Yeah, I think people worry too much about having kids and sometimes it's difficult to make ends meet and whatnot. But honestly, there's really no time like the present. Just have kids. You won't be sorry. It'll work out.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon, thanks for being here today.
Elon Musk
With your, with your Department of Efficiency. How far back do you think we're going to have to go in order to right the wrongs that are in this country?
Elon Musk
Well, I don't know. I mean, there's certainly a lot of work for a Department of Government efficiency, and there will be immense opposition, obviously, to making government more efficient from entrenched interests that currently benefit from, you know, sucking away vast amounts of taxpayer money. They will not like the fact that they're not getting it anymore. They will fight tooth and nail. So. But it's got to be done.
Elon Musk
And like I said, we're going to aim to, you know, reduce government spending, get government out of people's lives as much as possible, and restore freedom and liberty.
Audience
Hello, Mr. Musk. My name is ally offit and I'm secretary of the carnegie mellon college republicans.
Audience
Before I ask my quick question, I would love to welcome your son to join our club next year.
Elon Musk
Sounds good.
Audience
Second, I just wanted to ask, I wanted to ask you what was the driving problem that got you into politics and what was that breaking point that made you really want to get into politics?
Elon Musk
Yeah, well, as I said, I really would prefer not to be in politics at all. And the reason that I have stepped into the political arena this time is because I think the stakes are Extremely fundamental. I think democracy is on the line. I think Constitution's on the line. And I fear that if Trump does not win, we're going to be, you know, we're going to have a single party state. It's going to be like California, but actually worse than California.
Elon Musk
Because the one thing that keeps California from going even further than they do go is that people can move out of California and still be in America. But if you've got no place to move, then it's going to be much worse than California. And that's the danger that we face.
Elon Musk
So sort of an oppressive totalitarian state that has extreme restrictions on freedom of speech, that, you know, continues extreme over regulation that just basically makes government even bigger than it is today and takes away the liberty of the people. So it was not something I wanted to do, but I felt it was, it was critical to do it or America is not going to be America.
Elon Musk
Over 100 years ago, Nikola Tesla dreamed of delivering free and unlimited energy, not just to the people of the United States, but to the people of the world. And he was up against a dirty machine. You know, same machine that we're fighting today. Same machine that's been suppressing suiciding inventors for decades, as evidenced by Secrecy invention Act of 1951.
Elon Musk
We need somebody that has the wallet to not care what people think and not be bullied around while having the guts to give the finger to the adversaries. And whether it's through government efficiency or private sector, if you're taking suggestions, I would encourage you to pursue that avenue to give the people of the earth, you know, something clean, renewable, efficient. And imagine what kind of rockets you could build with ethereal energy.
Elon Musk
So if you would like to discuss it more, I'm getting sushi afterwards if you want to join me, but I would love to hear your thoughts on that. Well, like some, I mean, I think we want to get government out of people's lives and give people their liberty and freedom back and allow them to keep more of their hard earned money. And I think that's what leads to prosperity and happier people. So that's what we're going to aim for.
Elon Musk
So I'll take a couple more questions and call that, call it a day.
Audience
Hi Elon, I'm Edwin. I believe that you are the Benjamin Franklin of our times. And thank you for unapologetically being you. My question is, on several occasions in your life, you have bet the farm on highly ambitious and almost improbable goals in spite of well intentioned advices from friends, family and even your idols, like Neil Armstrong saying, don't do it, Elon. Yeah, most people would break under that kind of pressure.
Audience
So how did you get them? Or how do you get the mental fortitude to listen to all of that advice, process it, realize you're probably going to fail and go ahead and do it in spite of the fear?
Elon Musk
Yeah, I mean, when starting SpaceX and Tesla, you know, people said, you're probably going to fail. And I agreed with them. I said, yeah, I think the probability of success is less than 10%. But, but I felt if we didn't try to do something radical in space and with electric, electric cars, then, you know, nothing was happening. Like the existing big companies were not innovating. Like the cost of access to space was actually increasing every year in the us not decreasing.
Elon Musk
And there was no, you know, it was basically, we were doing less and less every year in space exploration, not, not more. And so I was like, well if, you know, even, even if it's like a 1% chance of SpaceX succeeding, that's still better than nothing.
Elon Musk
So, you know, I was like, you know, the people tell me this joke so many times, like what, what's the best way to make a small fortune in the space industry is to start with a large one. And, and I was like, I. So, so then when people, you know, would ask, tell me that joke, I would say, well, I was trying to figure out how to make a small, for a large fortune to a small one. And like, how do you know? Yeah, exactly.
Elon Musk
So, you know, so, so it wasn't with the expectation of success that, that we started SpaceX and Tesla was with the expectation of failure. But we felt this, it was important enough nonetheless to give it our best shot. And we just barely made it. You know, SpaceX, the first three flights didn't succeed, the fourth one did. And if that fourth one had failed, I was out of money and company would not exist. So.
Elon Musk
And it was the same thing for Tesla. You know, same thing with Tesla. 2008 was a really tough year because that's when we had the third rocket failure and the auto industry was busy going bankrupt. You know, GM and Chrysler went bankrupt in early 2009 and they're busy going bankrupt in late 2008. And in the case of Tesla, we closed the financing route of Tesla and I gave all the money that I had left and we closed that financing round in the last hour of the last day that it was possible.
Elon Musk
It was around 5pm, Christmas Eve 2008 and if that round had not closed in that call, Tesla would have bounced payroll two days after Christmas.
Audience
Good afternoon, Elon. I thank you for saving my son's life at the age of 25 and his little red Y Tesla going 77 miles an hour on the turnpike. A deer jumped the cabin, knew there was an impact. It lifted the front hood. So this. The deer was not in my son's lap. So thank you. Thank you for that. Secondly, my question is.
Elon Musk
Yeah, we do actually.
Elon Musk
The top priority for Tesla design and engineering is actually safety. So that's.
Audience
And that's why he bought your s. And now he has your cyber truck and he is 25 and you are his inspiration and he was to be here. But he didn't get the ticket. Mom did. So my question is as, as an educator for over 20 years and for the rights to bear arms, why in the public schools do we not have a team of concealed to carry professional staff, faculty on all colleges, public schools that are completely under confidentiality and highly trained to protect our schools?
Audience
And if we cannot protect, protect our children, then can you design equipment that will allow our schools and our campuses to be freely safe of any man or woman who thinks that they are going to take us down?
Audience
Sure.
Elon Musk
Well, you know, I don't actually have an answer for everything, so I'm doing my best here to just, you know, answer questions as best I can and, you know, hopefully get most of them right and probably some wrong, but. And then correct the ones that are wrong. But yeah, I do think there are things, steps we can take to improve safety on campus and on schools. And I think if there are highly trusted teachers who are willing to, we need to make sure obviously they're highly trusted and very capable who are willing to have firearms to protect the kids.
Elon Musk
I think we should probably let them do it.
Elon Musk
All right, so I'll just do two. Just this question and one more and then we'll call it a day.
Audience
Hi, I'm one of the Pennsylvania conservatives in the Pennsylvania Democratic conservatives in the room. My father and brother have been in the House of Representatives for 24 and 22 years. Pro life, pro gun, pro military, pro First Amendment, pro Second Amendment. My problem is my vote didn't get counted. I voted for Trump in 2016. I voted for him in 2020. I received this letter in the mail from Harrisburg saying that my vote did not get counted.
Elon Musk
And what concerns me, actually, I'd like to understand more about that. So how did that work?
Audience
I don't know. I work the polls. I've Always worked the polls. I go for conservative Democrats. I go on a federal level for the Republicans, and like I said, I've always gone to the polls. So to find out that my vote has not been counted when I voted for Trump in both elections concerns me because my vote for my own brother didn't get counted as well. So I think that's happening to a lot of us.
Elon Musk
There's no explanation.
Audience
There's no explanation. I mean, if I didn't get this letter, I would not have known that my vote wasn't counted. So I think that's happened to a lot of us because we are standing with.
Elon Musk
That seems really crazy.
Audience
Oh, I know.
Elon Musk
And it seems like you could have it if they say they got to give a reason for that.
Audience
There's no reason. No one seems to. Even when I call, they're like, we don't know. We don't. We don't. We don't know anything. I just work here.
Elon Musk
Well, I think we definitely want to understand how widespread this is and, you know, definitely use the X platform to publicize anything that you think is an issue.
Elon Musk
You know, if we just, you know, we want to investigate anything that is. That is messed up, and that's. That sounds pretty messed up. At a minimum, they should tell you why your vote wasn't counted. I mean, was there something that you didn't fill out or what?
Audience
Oh, no, I went to the. I went to the polls and I signed. I've done it for, you know, 40 years now. So, yeah, it's strange, but I think I'm one of probably hundreds of thousands that voice has been silent.
Elon Musk
Well, I think it would be good to just count up, like, how many people are in your position. And for sure, that does seem messed up. Like, the state should be required to tell you exactly why it wasn't counted. And so, you know, that you at least understand there was an error in the form. There was something, because it was just saying it wasn't counted with no explanation is totally unacceptable.
Elon Musk
So.
Elon Musk
How you doing, Elon? Good. How's it going? My name's Logic. I'm a creative professional out of Pittsburgh, and I represent my people, my community. And some of the questions that we may have and some of the insight
Audience
that I have from me personally, being a single father here in this city, also making it through the change in
Elon Musk
circumstances of the economy as it becomes worse than I've ever known it to be, and the seriousness of this election,
Audience
you know, me, I'm not one that really believes in voting myself, but I Feel like I do not want to leave anything to happenstance in this election and I know that we need to
Elon Musk
get somebody who's really going to be
Audience
intelligent with their leadership.
Elon Musk
So you know, there's a lot of
Audience
things I would like to talk about, but I do have many ideas. I like what you're doing right now and I commend you on, on putting
Elon Musk
yourself out here, you know, to make
Audience
these changes and to take these risks that matter.
Elon Musk
My name is Logic.
Audience
L H A G I C dot com. You can find out more about me and what I do and that's all I want to say.
Elon Musk
All right, well, thank you. Please, please do everything you can to convince people to vote and register to vote.
Elon Musk
All right, I'll do two more questions and then I got to get back to see my kids. Honestly, that's the, that is the, that's where I'm going right after this.
Audience
So I'll make it really fast.
Elon Musk
Want to get to see it before bedtime as well.
Audience
Thank you. Thank you so much. This opportunity is way cool. Thank you very much. Emotional conversations often polarize into win lose dynamics and there's like an individual focus or thinking where systems thinking, especially when it comes to the relationship system suggests that there's unseen forces, possibly, possibly evolutionary shaping how natural living systems like humanity manage tension. How might AI help navigate these charged conversations?
Audience
Especially if it's built by, with the same blind spots we all have.
Elon Musk
I'm, I, honestly I'm, I'm not sure. I think AI, I think will, it'll be vastly smarter than humans and I think it probably will help. Like I said, it's 80% likely to be helpful, maybe 90. And you know, I can certainly see it being very helpful with, with you know, medicine and helping people understand, get, get healthy and whatnot.
Elon Musk
So, but it's not a panacea. It'll, it'll, you know, it is a double edged sword. So I, I, I'm not sure I have a great answer to that except we just need to pay close attention to AI and ring the alarm bell if we see that it's going in a bad direction. Thank you. Last question.
Audience
Thank you. Elon, thanks so much for being here. Thank you for your courage and for everything you've done for America.
Audience
My question is pertaining to the voting machines this election. There are numerous features this isn't exhaustive. A switch feature feature, a multiplication feature. Been waiting to ask you this since 2020. Are you confident that this is a battle that can be won? Are there plans in place? Are There protections in place. Have you talked to President Trump about this? With your technological proficiency and higher level
Elon Musk
of knowledge, I think the best way to address this, you know, any potential fraud. I don't know what's real and what's not real, but I've made my position clear that we should not have machines involved. We should have paper ballots in person with id.
Elon Musk
That's the sure thing.
Elon Musk
And especially as we get to an AI future, because like I said, the AI could hack the voting machines and then we wouldn't even know what's going on. We do not want voting machines connected to the Internet or electronic in any way whatsoever. So can't emphasize that enough. Now with respect to this election, I think any sort of voting, you know, concerns that people have should be posted on the X platform and on every platform and, you know, be very loud about it if you have any concerns so that they can like.
Elon Musk
The brighter the light we shine on any voting issues, the less likely there is to be cheating then. And then the other thing is that is to win by such a margin that even if there is cheating, the margin is so great that you beat the cheat.
Elon Musk
So with that, thank you.
Elon Musk
All right, thank you everyone. It's been an honor speaking to you and I enjoyed the questions and let's just go ultra hardcore. Remember, only have until tomorrow night to get people registered. So please think you've got one goal. Get people registered by midnight tomorrow. Thank you.
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