机器翻译,已尽力保留原意与数字
内容摘要
斯蒂芬·科尔伯特问马斯克,他究竟是超级英雄还是超级反派——他们谈到了火星地球化、可重复使用火箭,以及SpaceX尝试在无人船上着陆。
Stephen Colbert asks Musk whether he's a superhero or a supervillain — they cover terraforming Mars, reusable rockets and SpaceX's drone-ship landing attempts.
中文实录Transcript
8 个段落
第 1 段
像反派。那是超级反派才干的事。超人不会说要投下热核炸弹。那是莱克斯·卢瑟,伙计。慢一点的办法是像我们在地球上所做的那样释放温室气体。我们在释放温室气体方面已经积累了很多经验。我们可以把地球上的一些绿色气体输出到火星。现在,你也有办法让我们去那里。因为,正如我所说,你是SpaceX的首席执行官之一,而我兴奋得不得了。
第 2 段
你是首席执行官?对不起。好吧,抱歉。戳到痛处了。又一次,超级反派。现在,SpaceX所说的事情是,你想拥有科幻作品里的那种火箭。我小时候就有人向我承诺过。对,当然。你可以重复使用它们。对。让生命成为多行星物种的关键,就是拥有可重复使用的火箭。如果每次都把火箭扔掉,去太空的成本就高得离谱。
第 3 段
但如果能让火箭再次飞行,其成本就可能和航空飞行相当。而且你有一枚叫……它叫猎鹰吗?对。好。猎鹰火箭。你的目标是尝试让猎鹰火箭降落。在海上的一艘驳船上。所以你用的是一艘船?一艘船?一名驾驶员?它有一个入口。我今年说的每句话似乎都在冒犯你。好吧,如果它有入口,它就是一艘船。好,很好。好。有人在驾驶这艘船吗?
第 4 段
没有,那是一艘无人船。好。我们有一段画面,我想这是最近一次尝试,让火箭在成功运送有效载荷后着陆。开始了。加油,宝贝。对。加油。你能做到。它着陆时摔断了一条腿。所以它接管了。它摔坏的可不止那些。对。哦,到了这么接近成功的时候却看到这一幕,有多令人心碎?绝对令人心碎。对。你看起来可不伤心。
第 5 段
嗯,那是几个月前发生的。所以我想,那个摆脱。你可以把它抛在脑后。我想我们实际上既感到难过,同时又感到高兴,因为如果我们能降低着陆速度,就能让它着陆、保持直立,而且不爆炸。火箭的目标之一就是不要爆炸。是的。还要多久才能安全到让我妻子同意我登上火箭去某个地方?
第 6 段
嗯,我不确定,因为我不认识你妻子,但就在那里。好。对。不过我认为,要达到足以载人的安全程度,大概还需要2到3年。你在开玩笑。对。那根本没多久。说真的。所以从现在起2到3年,也就是现在起2到3年,可能就会开始变成这样,比如,这位是乔治·杰廷,还有,对,史蒂夫·科尔伯特。
第 7 段
嗯,大约2年后,我们将把NASA宇航员送往空间站。你接下来想做的、能带来充满希望的未来的事情是什么?所以,我喜欢你所做之事的一点是,你对未来的愿景充满希望。也就是说,它是可以修复的。这个世界,有如此多的富余。有些人面对那些无法解决的世界问题,只能举手投降。
第 8 段
你认为我们可以专心投入其中,真正让世界变得更好吗?你认为我们最需要的是什么?嗯,我认为本世纪最需要解决的问题是可持续能源。嗯,你看起来就是能做到这件事的人。非常感谢你的到来,也感谢你努力让未来变得更美好。你,你,你。
Paragraph 1
For villain. That's what a super villain does. Superman doesn't say it will drop thermonuclear bombs. That's Lex Luthor, man. The slow way would be to release greenhouse gases like we're doing on Earth. We've gotten a lot of experience releasing greenhouse gases. We could export some of our green gases from Earth to Mars. Now you also have ways for us to get there. Because, as I said, you're one of the CEOs of SpaceX and I'm incredibly excited.
Paragraph 2
You're the CEO? I'm sorry. Okay, sorry. Struck a raw nerve. Again, super villain. Now, the thing that says SpaceX is that you want to have rockets like the sci-fi rockets. I was promised when I was a kid. Yeah, absolutely. You can reuse them. Yeah. This is the key to getting life to be multi-planetary is to have reusable rockets. If you throw the rockets away every time, it's crazy expensive to go to space.
Paragraph 3
But if you can re-fly the rockets, it could be comparable to air flight in its costs. And you've got a rocket call. Is it called the Falcon? Yeah. Okay. The Falcon rocket. And your goal is to try to land the Falcon rocket. on a barge at sea. So you use a ship? A ship? A pilot? It has an entrance. Everything I say seems to be insulting you this year. Well, if it's got an entrance, it's a ship. Okay, good. Okay. And is anybody driving the ship?
Paragraph 4
No, it's a drone ship. Okay. We have a footage of this is the last attempt, I think, to land the rocket after it successfully delivered a payload. Here it goes. And come on, baby. Yeah. Come on. You can do it. It broke a leg on landing. So it took over. It broke more than that. Yeah. Oh, how heartbreaking is that? To see that when you get that close. Definitely heartbreaking. Yeah. You don't seem heartbroken.
Paragraph 5
Well, that happened several months ago. So I think the get off. You can shake it off. I think we're actually feeling sad, but happy at the same time because if we could reduce the landing velocity, we could get it to land and stay upright and not explode. That is one of the goals of rockets is not to explode. Yes. How long before that's going to be safe enough that my wife would be okay with me getting on a rocket and going someplace?
Paragraph 6
Well, I'm not sure if I don't know your wife, but just right out there. Okay. Yeah. But I think in terms of when it will be safe enough for people, it's probably about two to three years. You're kidding. Yeah. That's nothing. Seriously. So two to three years from now, so two to three years now, it could be the beginning of like, here's George Jettin and yeah, Steve Colbert.
Paragraph 7
Well, in approximately two years, we'll be transporting NASA astronauts to the space station. What's the next thing that you want to do that is a hopeful future? So one of the things I like about what you do is that your vision of the future is very hopeful. That is, it is fixable. That the world, there's so much to spare. There's people throwing up their hands, the problems of the world that can't be solved.
Paragraph 8
You think that we can put our minds to it and actually make the world a better place? What do you think we need more than anything else? Well, I think the most important thing we need to solve this century is sustainable energy. Well, you seem like the guy to do it. Thank you so much for being here and thank you for trying to make the future a better place. you you you