机器翻译,已尽力保留原意与数字
内容摘要
马斯克重返兰开斯特参加市民大会,在近3个小时里回答了观众提问——话题从提前投票和政府支出,到教育、火星和 Neuralink。
Musk's return town hall in Lancaster, where he fielded audience questions for nearly three hours — ranging from early voting and government spending to education, Mars and Neuralink.
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488 个段落
埃隆·马斯克
这是萨。
埃隆·马斯克
它,
观众
萨姆它。
埃隆·马斯克
欢迎。
埃隆·马斯克
美国。美国。
观众
好了。
埃隆·马斯克
哇。
埃隆·马斯克
我喜欢。
埃隆·马斯克
很荣幸来到这里,与在场的每个人以及外面的每个人交谈。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,我。
埃隆·马斯克
在我……
埃隆·马斯克
其实,在说其他任何事情之前,我想强调的是,就像标牌上写的那样,提前投票,现在就投票。
埃隆·马斯克
所以你们其实可以,我看了那些数字。截至昨天,仅周边各县、仅附近地区,仍有40,000张已经寄出的缺席选票尚未被。
埃隆·马斯克
尚未交回。所以,如果你有任何朋友、家人或任何你认识的人手里有缺席选票,就不停地缠着他们,直到他们把选票交回去。因为如果他们不交回去,那一票就不算。事情相当简单。所以,是的,仅这个地区就有40,000张缺席选票确实需要交回。所以拜托,你知道,跟朋友和家人谈谈。别获得一票。另一件事是,宾夕法尼亚州的任何人都可以在周一和周二前往县政府办公室申请选票,并立即在那里把它交回。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我想,可能很多人不知道你其实可以这样做。你甚至不需要把它寄出去。这有点奇怪,因为它好像被称为缺席选票。但你就在那里,显然没有缺席。
埃隆·马斯克
我能拿一张缺席选票吗?但你人在这里。可以。尽管听起来很奇怪,但你确实可以直接进去,申请一张缺席选票,而且即便你人就在那里,也可以把它交回。
埃隆·马斯克
而且你今天早上这么做了。很好。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我想,也许有些县政府办公室周末开放,但它们周一和周二肯定开放。然后再来一个奇怪的转折,它们周三关门。所以它们就像,现在怎么办?所以在宾夕法尼亚州,你只有周一和周二可以去县政府办公室申请选票,而且可以当场把它交回。它甚至完全不需要通过邮寄或任何别的方式。
埃隆·马斯克
而这就是最好的做法。
埃隆·马斯克
你可以用邮寄方式,但也可以直接亲自办理。然后出于某种原因,从周三起你就不能再这么做了,直到11月5日。所以周一和周二非常紧迫。事关重大。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
而这,这是一场,你知道,这是一场我认为,坦率地说是。是命运道路上的一个民众,你知道,确实如此。所以,你知道,这。是的,这。这。这。这至关重要。所以,你知道,就像,我们需要安全的城市、稳固的边境,你知道,合理的支出。我是说,基本的东西,你知道,而且。而且我们需要摆脱,像是那个。那个。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,是的,但我的意思是,就像,我总觉得,像这样攻击卡玛拉不好,因为他只是个傀儡,你知道,但这只是,你知道,这只是一台机器。它就像这台庞大的政府机器,而那里有一个傀儡,而且就像,攻击那个傀儡毫无意义。只是,你知道,就像我当时,你知道,我开了个在某种程度上被曲解的玩笑,大意是,甚至都没人费心让我们试图杀死卡玛拉。
埃隆·马斯克
那毫无意义。
观众
为什么?
埃隆·马斯克
再找一个傀儡就是了。所以大家都这样。甚至都没人费心。甚至没人。甚至没人试图杀死拜登。
埃隆·马斯克
就像,这难道不显得奇怪吗?他们两次试图杀死特朗普。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,没错。我是说,听着,如果某个人已经死了,那还试图杀他干什么?所以,你知道,他已经一只脚和4根脚趾进坟墓了。我是说,我看过《在伯尼家过周末》,老实说,那具尸体都比拜登更有生气,真的,确实如此。所以,你知道,到底是谁在管理这个国家?就像,就像,就像,就像,谁在掌权?我只是。这让人困惑。
埃隆·马斯克
特朗普。当然,希望他会掌权。但我只是有点想知道,就像,拜登显然不是康帕斯·曼蒂斯,那么实际上是谁在掌权?
埃隆·马斯克
那台机器,我想就是。基本上就是那台庞大的政府机器在掌权。
埃隆·马斯克
但这很离奇,你知道,所以,是的,我是说,显然,对特朗普来说,了不起之处在于我们有一个真实的个人,他不受制于任何人,而这正是那台机器所害怕的。也正因为如此,那台机器才试图杀死他。是的。所以,是的,疯狂的时代,伙计。疯狂的时代。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,已经有相当多朋友打电话给我说,你有没有?你绝对应该加强安保。我就说,这大概是个好主意。我就说,他们说,他们肯定会试图杀了你。我就说,是啊,他们很有可能会试着那么做。是啊,所以,是啊,没错。如果他们开枪,最好别打偏。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我会查清他背后是谁,而不仅仅是枪手是谁。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
但想想确实很疯狂,你知道,我们有一位总统候选人,他。最近几个月里,他们已经2次试图杀死他,而且还试图用法律战对付他。千方百计阻止人们真正以民主方式投票。这太令人愤慨了,真的。他们,你知道,他们在害怕什么?
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是啊,我觉得这算是事实,而且我肯定会鼓励大家。如果有人还没看过乔·罗根和唐纳德·特朗普之间的对话,那真的超级酷。我的意思是,我觉得对很多人来说,就像,你知道,你怎么知道,你怎么了解一个人,比如,他们是怎样的人?
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,就像那些极左翼媒体一直没完没了地说,特朗普就像希特勒,就像墨索里尼和斯大林的结合体,把他们全揉成一个人,而且不知怎么的,他比他们3个人加起来还要糟。这些人杀害了数千万人。我就说,媒体出问题了,各位。你知道,媒体出问题了。
埃隆·马斯克
新闻业已经死了。到底是怎么回事?太怪异了。
埃隆·马斯克
是啊,确实,没错。就像,我的意思是,我确实认为那种老派新闻业,我称之为传统媒体,因为它确实算是传统媒体,因为它来自这样一个时代:为了了解任何新闻,你都必须把新闻汇总到某个中央出版机构,然后由某位编辑决定人们应该听到什么,接着他们会用很多纸,真的是纸,来印刷报纸,然后分发那些报纸。
埃隆·马斯克
而那就是你了解事情的方式。但显然,现在已经不需要那样了。你有互联网,所以任何人都可以随时了解任何事情。是啊,这就是为什么X代表未来。
埃隆·马斯克
这是公民新闻,你从民众那里听到消息,它由民众创造,为民众服务。这就是它的全部意义。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为这是一件超级、超级重大的事,而且,让民众真正得以决定新闻、叙事以及什么才重要,这是绝对根本性且具有变革意义的。
埃隆·马斯克
因为传统媒体基本上由少数几位主编控制。就是这样。他们决定什么会被刊登。这就是为什么我非常鼓励外面的每个人在X平台上写东西,当然也包括其他平台。但公民新闻才是未来,你知道,在那里你能听到该领域真正专家的声音,听到任何特定行业中专家的声音,而且你还能听到反驳意见。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,如果有人说了错误的东西,或者需要更多背景信息,人们可以添加那些内容,X有社区注释,这很棒,你知道,所以我认为社区注释的命中率非常高。它并不完美,但它的命中率非常高,而且很多次,我都收到过这样的请求,比如,我们能不能删掉这条社区注释?我就说,不行,我们不能。
埃隆·马斯克
即使是针对我自己的社区注释也不行。所以,对于社区注释,所有代码都是开源的,所有数据也都是开源的。因此,你可以独立重现任何一条特定的社区注释。而正是这种透明度让你知道它是真实的、确有其事的,也是诚实的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以那就是,那就是,是啊,但是,而且我觉得我们有,你知道,另外,天哪,麦克风的反馈声变得有点疯狂了。
埃隆·马斯克
所以也许我应该,我该再往后站还是再往前站?嗯,地板上有个X,我猜。我猜那就是我应该站的位置。好的,是啊。行。
埃隆·马斯克
好吧。对。所以,是的,那艘岩石飞船相当酷。那是一件了不起的事。所以,是的,SpaceX 团队是一支不可思议的团队。而且太疯狂了,这个重达250吨的巨大物体进入太空,返回后被巨大的“机械哥斯拉”机械臂接住了。这就像,你知道,超级酷。那正是那种,你知道,我认为能鼓舞人心、令人兴奋的事情,而且你知道,有很大的潜力。我认为我们,我们实际上可以在月球上建造一个永久有人驻守的科学基地。
埃隆·马斯克
我们可以在火星上建立一项研究。我们可以成为一个多行星物种,置身群星之间,这非常令人兴奋。你知道,所以。
埃隆·马斯克
我穿着这件由太空军送给我的夹克。你知道,上面有《星际迷航》里的“企业号”。你知道,这就像星际舰队学院。我们想让星际舰队学院成为现实,你知道,并最终前往那里,造访其他恒星系统,看看是否存在外星文明。也许有些外星文明存在了数百万年,而我们只发现了,你知道,许多早已消亡的外星文明的遗迹。
埃隆·马斯克
我不知道。嗯,它们可能会非常值得去
观众
看看
埃隆·马斯克
因为至少根据物理学,宇宙已有138亿年历史,而地球大约有45亿年历史。所以,即使你只是把时间计数器增加100万年,也得在小数点后移3位,啪,100万年。而我们在考古学中发现的最古老文字只有5,500年历史。只有这么点,根本不算什么。那只是地球存在时间的百万分之一。
埃隆·马斯克
那是最早的文字。顺便说一句,你真的不得不佩服古代苏美尔人。他们拿下了很多个第一。那些古代苏美尔人,坦白说,他们真的一次次把球打出了场,你知道,还有泥板之类的一切。幸好他们写在泥板上。这相当有帮助。
埃隆·马斯克
我是说,他们甚至发现了像是学校作业的东西,比如他们在泥板上教孩子们楔形文字。然后还有老师用红墨水批改楔形文字。
埃隆·马斯克
这已经持续一段时间了。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我们如今是一个仅有5,500年历史的文明,其实还只是个婴儿,但潜力很大。我认为我们,你知道,我们可以走出去,可以让生命成为多行星生命,理解宇宙,弄清楚正在发生什么。也许外星人会来拜访我们。也许他们现在就在这里,我不知道。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,外侨登记卡。
埃隆·马斯克
所以你知道,人们确实会问我,比如,我是否认为外星人就在……之中。我会说,我一个都没见过。
埃隆·马斯克
对,非法移民倒是有,而且有很多。但我还没见过任何头上长着触角之类的绿色外星人,或者类似的东西。也许他们确实在,只是非常隐蔽,但我没见过他们。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
但我认为我们想成为某种,我们想成为探索其他星系的外星人,你知道。而且你知道,我是看着《星际迷航》长大的,《星球大战》是我在电影院看过的第一部电影,它显然对我影响很大。而我们只是想让这种辉煌、惊人、我不知道、太空未来成为现实,你知道,并拥有令人兴奋、鼓舞人心的事物,让你庆幸自己醒来。当你早晨醒来时,你会庆幸自己还活着。
埃隆·马斯克
必须有这些东西,你知道,生活不能。对,所以,是的,嗯,我认为我们能做到。所以你大约每2年可以前往火星一次。也就是说,每26个月行星会排列成适合的位置,你就可以从地球前往火星。而实际上,在接下来的几个月里,我们现在正处于一个行星排列时机。因此,大约2年后还会有另一次行星排列,那时我们打算把第一批星舰火箭送往火星。
埃隆·马斯克
所以那就是,我认为我们大概可以在2年后发送相当多艘。然后,如果它们成功着陆,而我们没有增加火星上的陨石坑数量,前后的陨石坑数量相等,那么我们就可以送人过去。4年后,我们将成为火星上的非法外星人。你知道,我想如果那里有任何,你知道,任何火星人,也许他们会让火星再次伟大。对,你知道,火星很久以前确实有海洋,看起来是这样。
埃隆·马斯克
对,比如火星温度高得多的时候,那里似乎有液态海洋。而如果你让火星升温,它将在大约40%的地球的火星表面上拥有海洋。所以,如果你只是让火星升温,我想火星大约会在40%的表面上拥有一片将近1英里深的海洋。所以火星上有一大堆、数量极其庞大的冻结冰。所以,是的,这有点像让火星再次伟大,因为你可以让它升温,它就能成为一颗类地行星。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我认为,这对长期而言实际上非常重要。
埃隆·马斯克
意识得以长久延续的方式,就是成为一个多行星物种。这实际上非常重要,因为地球上总有一定概率会发生某种事情,要么是,你知道,人为灾难,要么是自然灾难,比如那个,你知道,杀死恐龙的陨石。我的意思是,地球历史上发生过许多次大灭绝事件,而且还会发生大灭绝事件,然而人类实际上正面临一场事实上的大灭绝事件,出生率正在暴跌,所以。
埃隆·马斯克
但如果我们是一个多行星物种,文明可能的寿命会比我们作为单行星物种时长得多。我的意思是,我们不想成为那些蹩脚的单行星文明之一。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我们想成为一个多行星文明,而且我说的并不是要投入很多资源,比如我不知道,投入我们资源的1%。成为一个多行星物种似乎是明智之举,并且最终算是弄清楚正在发生什么,比如造访其他恒星系统。而且我认为,有一天火星实际上可能会发挥类似于美国在拯救世界方面所发挥的作用。你知道,美国在上个世纪拯救了世界3次。
埃隆·马斯克
这是一件大事。第一次世界大战、世界大战2和冷战。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
如果不是美国在上个世纪3次力挽狂澜,地球会大不相同。
埃隆·马斯克
对,确实是阿门。所以,所以我认为在未来,火星,他们过去把美国称为新世界,而火星将成为新新世界,但实际上,你知道,行星。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我认为,有一天火星或许会拯救地球,就像美国拯救了世界其他地方一样。我认为那是一个很大的。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,你们也看得出来,我热爱太空和火箭,如果这一点还不够明显的话。
埃隆·马斯克
那么,让我想想,我们可以直接进入提问环节,就这么开始。像这样让大家展开讨论总是很好。所以灯光直照着我的眼睛,非常亮,我几乎,我看不清正在发生什么。
埃隆·马斯克
有两条长队。好的,太好了。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,让我想想,我们该怎么开始?
埃隆·马斯克
好的,请讲。
埃隆·马斯克
好的,当然。
观众
你好,埃隆。我叫阿什莉,来自兰开斯特县,我有一个名叫丹尼尔的7岁儿子。他让我保证,如果我能和你交谈,我就必须告诉你,他认为Cybertruck是那个。最酷、最酷的发明。所以我现在把这件事告诉了你,他欠我一个人情。不过,我的问题主要围绕高等教育。我要稍微暴露一下自己的年龄了。但20年前高中毕业时,我决定不去上大学,直接进入职场。
观众
这对我来说效果很好,但我也因此受到很多指责,来自那些觉得这种做法有点疯狂的人。而现在我看到,你知道,人们对高等教育的态度有些变化,它不再是我们唯一的模式。所以我的问题算是分成两部分。那么对于像我的孩子们来说,你知道,他们最终将需要作出这个决定,你知道,在职业学校、高等教育或直接进入职场之间进行比较时,你会给出什么决定,或者什么、什么建议?
观众
而从雇主的角度来看,在10到15年后,你认为雇主会希望从即将进入职场的下一代身上看到什么?
埃隆·马斯克
当然。嗯,我确实认为,人们很可能过于频繁地选择去大学或学院读4年,而这是没有必要的。
埃隆·马斯克
然后他们积累了大量债务,而这些债务很难还清。他们往往也没有学到非常有用的技能。所以,这并不是,你知道,我认为我们确实应该重新考虑上大学是否真的有意义。我认为它并不总是有意义。所以,你知道我的看法了。人们也会忘记,比如说,通常上学的意义是什么?你应该学习有用的东西,你知道,增进你对世界的理解,并且,并且学习能帮助你为其他人作出贡献的技能。
埃隆·马斯克
但大学往往做的恰恰相反。事实上,它会向孩子们灌输宣传,不教给他们任何有用的东西,只是让他们背上大量债务。所以我认为,真正重要的是,你是否在做有用的事情来帮助其他人?你的贡献是否多于索取?如果是,那就是一件很棒的事。
埃隆·马斯克
现在,我们正走向一个相当疯狂的未来,有人工智能和机器人技术,我认为,尤其是如果你展望,比如说10年后,或者更久,我们将会,世界将会变得非常不同。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为大概有80%的可能性会是好的,你知道,就像杯子有80%是满的,你知道,而且我认为我们最有可能会迎来这样一种局面:全民高收入,实际上不是全民基本收入,而是全民高收入。商品和服务也不会短缺。这是我认为最有可能发生的情况。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我们需要确保这种AI和这些机器人站在人类这一边。你知道,显然,你知道,詹姆斯·卡梅隆拍过一部电影,拍过两部关于这个的电影。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,你得留意自己给这些机器人编程让它们做什么。
埃隆·马斯克
而且你知道,我用过几次的例子是,你知道,当Google Gemini推出时,人们问,那么,错误称呼凯特琳·詹纳的性别和全球热核战争,哪一个更糟?它说,嗯,性别女士,凯特琳·詹纳更糟。这就像是,我们的这个AI有问题。
埃隆·马斯克
甚至凯特琳·詹纳都说,是啊,你绝对应该把我叫作“詹纳女士”。这太疯狂了。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,我们不想要一种AI。它。它得出的结论是,避免错误称呼性别的最佳方式是处决所有人类,从而将错误称呼性别的概率降至零,因为没有人类了。
埃隆·马斯克
这就是我们想要避免的那种有可能发生的疯狂事情。这就是为什么我认为我们想要一种最大限度追求真相的AI。
埃隆·马斯克
它必须建立在良好的基础上,而且就是一种诚实、真实、坦率的AI。这是实现人工智能安全的最佳路径。
观众
你好,埃隆,我是克里斯汀。我来自兰开斯特县。我想代表兰开斯特县的所有人向你表示衷心欢迎。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。
观众
感谢你所做的一切。我的问题涉及政府效率。你会制定什么计划来提高政府效率?
埃隆·马斯克
是的,嗯,所以我想首先,就人们有时会问的,你会从哪里着手提高政府效率?这有点像待在一个整间屋子到处都是靶子的房间里,所以你朝任何方向开枪都不会打偏。
埃隆·马斯克
就像根本不可能打偏,因为每个方向都有靶子。所以不存在打偏的可能。现在我们确实存在一个根本问题,那就是政府的支出远远、远远超过其收入。而现实是,所有政府支出实际上都是征税。所有政府支出都是征税。有时候人们认为其中一部分是征税,另一部分不是。但这一切都是征税,因为税收收入未能覆盖的部分会变成通货膨胀。
埃隆·马斯克
所以你要么被直接征税,要么通过通货膨胀被征税,但你肯定会被征税。
埃隆·马斯克
所以所有政府支出都是征税。因此,我们必须削减政府的整体支出。未来我们将被迫这么做,因为目前仅债务利息支出就占全部联邦税收收入的23%。仅仅是利息支出。如今的利息支出已经超过国防部预算,而国防部预算是每年1万亿美元。那是一大笔钱。所以仅债务利息就超过了我们的军事支出。
埃隆·马斯克
仅仅是利息。而且它还在迅速上升。所以不能像,你知道,我们在这里那里稍微削减一点。那是行不通的。必须进行相当激进的成本削减。是的。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我认为我们只需要,你知道,如果,你知道,求求您了,主啊。问题。这个,你知道,而且政府效率部实现了。我们会非常开放、透明,而且会非常明确地说明这就是我们正在做的事。这些是问题所在。
埃隆·马斯克
这就是关于支出了什么以及什么的计算,你知道,而且我们要让它。我们会降低支出。如果有人有更好的办法来降低支出,请告诉我们。但如果我们不这么做,就会让国家破产。所以我们必须做点什么。而且必须是,像一些相当大的举措。抽干沼泽。是的,我会说,就像,抽干这些沼泽。这就像一个。有太多沼泽了。
埃隆·马斯克
就像,你知道,有太多沼泽了。有。是的,是的。我的意思是,这简直荒唐,比如,美国国税局的人员数量大幅增加。却没有给边境巡逻队增加人手,比如,这完全搞反了。就像,你可以继续当联邦雇员,但你必须去守卫边境。那就是你的新工作。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,就像,为什么我们要花钱并投入资源压迫美国人民,同时为非法移民铺上红地毯?这完全说不通。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,规模必须相当大。我的意思是,有。我其实试着在Google上搜索过,也问过所有AI,有多少。有多少个政府机构?而且连政府自己都不知道。好吧。AI也不知道。它们会说,嗯,大约有450个,但也许是420个。我就说,420,没开玩笑吧。
埃隆·马斯克
那可是很多机构。仅仅是联邦层面。我的意思是,比如,如果你稍微退后一步说,好吧,就一会儿,比如,假设我们要重新建立这个国家,我们需要多少个机构?我们需要超过99个吗?因为那是。99个机构已经很多了。你知道,比如,那,那仍然很多。你知道,如果你说,比如,有谁。甚至有多少人知道在99个机构?
埃隆·马斯克
我会说,几乎没有人知道。99知道99个机构的名称,更不用说420个或者不管实际上有多少个了。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。所以我们必须扭转这种局面。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我认为。嗯,我认为我们会做到,这将开启一个繁荣的新时代,因为人们甚至没有意识到,数以百万计的联邦法规在多大程度上阻碍了他们。数以百万计,确确实实。
埃隆·马斯克
如果事实证明我们不小心取消了一项好的法规,那就把它恢复。就这么容易吗?
丹(观众)
嘿,埃隆,我是丹,也来自宾夕法尼亚州。我是一名教师,公立学校教师,而且我今年刚买了一辆Tesla,它让我的1小时通勤体验变得非常棒。
埃隆·马斯克
太棒了。
丹(观众)
所以谢谢你做了这些。酷。另外,还有自动驾驶。对。哦,我的天。太炸裂了。比如我开进教师停车场时,我今天刚试着召唤了一下,就像,对,所有人的胆都掉到地上了。对。太疯狂了。对。所以共和党人需要出来投票。随着邮寄投票变得越来越普遍,关于邮寄选票的安全性和保障,我可以对朋友们说些什么?对。这次选举和未来的选举。
丹(观众)
然后很快再问一个,我女儿2岁。她叫伊莎贝拉。她已经很喜欢行星,也很喜欢天文学。我想知道,作为一名教师,我能做些什么来帮助激发她对天空、星星的好奇心。
埃隆·马斯克
当然。嗯,让我们看看。关于投票、投票诚信,我认为最好的办法可能是亲自交上去。但你也可以邮寄,并且可以查看你的选票是否已经送达。所以可以在网上或亲自查看你的选票是否已经送达。但我会鼓励大家提前投票,因为可能会发生这样的情况:到了11月5日,你可能工作上有紧急要事,或者家里有突发状况,或者,你知道。
埃隆·马斯克
对。某个神秘的网络安全事件,你永远不知道它会不会发生。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,11月5日什么事都可能突然发生,无论是个人的事情,还是某种,你知道,也可能有别的。别的问题。所以最好提前投票。现在,看到提前投票人数非常令人鼓舞,因为如果把今年的提前投票人数与2020年相比,大约有一个。我想我最后看到的数字是,与2020年相比,大概有2到300,000名选民的差距。这是巨大的。这很重大,因为我想上次的门槛大概是80,000票。
埃隆·马斯克
所以拜登算是以。
埃隆·马斯克
80,000票。
埃隆·马斯克
那是报道的数字。
埃隆·马斯克
但有意思的是,提前投票的差值现在是200,我想可能正接近250,甚至比2020年多300,000,这远远超过了2020年的差距。所以宾夕法尼亚州正朝着正确的方向发展。这非常令人鼓舞,但仍有很多工作要做,我们不能自满。所以一定要让所有人,你知道,去投票。正如之前提到的,如果人们担心把任何东西寄出去,实际上可以在周一和周二亲自去。
埃隆·马斯克
而且他们实际上可以拿到自己的选票。比如,即使他们没有选票,他们也真的可以去县办公室,拿到选票,尽管上面写着缺席投票,然后把它交上去,即使你并未缺席。这很奇怪,但行得通。但到了周三就行不通了,之后的下一个机会就是11月5日。所以这有点古怪,但这些就是目前的规则。然后,让我们看看,关于你的女儿。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,你知道,我认为要激发兴趣,就像,孩子们会受到真实而惊人的影像的激励。比如,他们看到某种惊人的东西。他们看到火箭升空、火箭着陆,或者,你知道,机器人四处走动,或者像科幻电影里看到的那些很酷的东西。当他们看到这样的东西时,就会自然而然地受到激励。他们受到激励,是因为它是。因为技术确实取得了真正的进步,而那就是,你知道,那就是激励孩子们的东西,因为本该如此。
埃隆·马斯克
孩子是判断什么东西很酷的绝佳筛选器。你可以看出一个小孩有没有反应,比如,哇,太棒了。那是真的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以孩子们喜欢野蛮摇滚,他们也喜欢火箭,你知道,而那是因为。而且他们毫无顾忌。他们就是会说出什么。他们会立刻说出自己的想法,你知道,所以,是的,所以这。这是很棒的新火箭技术,让我们能够像我说的那样,去那里并且。能够在月球上设立一个永久性科学站,你知道,不只是说,50多年前我们进入月球这件事很棒,而是我们想去月球,并真正建立一个科学基地。
埃隆·马斯克
就像我们在南极洲有一个科学基地。嗯,我们应该在月球上设立一个科学基地,也应该在火星上建造一座城市。而且我其实认为,文明的长远未来,我认为可能取决于我们是否会在火星上建造一座能够自给自足的城市。如果我们做到了,也就是说,那里会有数百万人,而且任何想去火星的人都可以去。那会是一件令人无比兴奋、鼓舞人心、值得向往的事,去火星。
埃隆·马斯克
你会觉得,哇,让我们把它变成现实。让我们带她去火星。是的,让我们带她去火星。是啊,如果她想着,哇,有一天我可以去火星,你知道,成为火星人中的一员,那会超级棒,我想,你知道,这很疯狂。从地球前往火星实际上需要6个月。你只是在这片空无一物的虚空中穿行数亿英里,直到最终抵达另一颗行星。
埃隆·马斯克
想想这居然有可能,就有点不可思议。但那该有多么了不起,你知道,比如,哇,我们希望拥有这样一个未来:生命遍布多个行星,我们不断推进火箭技术,而且像我说的那样,《星际迷航》里的星际舰队学院成为现实,而那正是会激励你女儿的事。谢谢。好了。
观众
你好,埃隆,我叫劳伦,来自宾夕法尼亚州。感谢你来到这里。感谢你所做的一切,也祝贺SpaceX取得的成就。你和你的整个团队都才华非凡。我有2个具体问题想问你,但我有点好奇,因为我今天在X上到处看了看,却没看到有谁赢得那项100万美元的奖金。哦,对了,今天发出去了吗?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,让我们看看。事实上,我们今晚会把它发出去。那么,让我们。是不是,我们现在就发?是的,好吧,那就发吧。时机正好。
埃隆·马斯克
好了,朱迪。基莫拉。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
顺便说一句,朱迪完全不知道。她现在才刚刚得知,所以。
埃隆·马斯克
真实的。朱迪正在来这里的路上。
埃隆·马斯克
就像我说的,朱迪在你得知的时候还没有得知。
埃隆·马斯克
好了。
埃隆·马斯克
哦,谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
好了,好了。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,我们正试图,试图让这份支持宪法、非常重要的请愿书得到关注。而且它,你知道,这就像,如果我们,你知道,我们需要言论自由权,我们需要持有和携带武器的权利,否则就不存在言论自由权。而且,是的。而且,而且它,你知道,人们有点疑惑,为什么,为什么不,为什么,100万美元奖金是怎么回事?我就说,嗯,我们需要让传统媒体谈论这件事。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,而且我就知道他们会对此大发牢骚。
埃隆·马斯克
那,比如,肯定会。每一家,每一家报纸和每一家电视台都在疯狂抱怨。我当时就想,太好了,这会把消息传播出去。
埃隆·马斯克
非常。欢迎。好了。
观众
你能跟我儿子凯登打个招呼吗?
埃隆·马斯克
可以。
埃隆·马斯克
你好,凯登和凯莉。你好。
埃隆·马斯克
好了,所以,是的,我们会从现在起到11月5日,每天发放100万美元。而你要做的,只是在支持第一修正案和第二修正案的请愿书上签名。就这些。你甚至不必投票。如果你投票当然很好,但你不必投。并且为了支持这个。基本上就是在你已经相信的事情上签个名,你就有机会从现在起到大选期间每天赢得100万美元。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众
恭喜。朱迪,如果你愿意分享的话请告诉我,有2个具体问题想问你,埃隆。一个与你对出生率下降的担忧有关。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,这是个大问题。
观众
确实如此。除了我们女性生越来越多的孩子之外,而且因为我们是唯一能生育的人。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众
你会怎么。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,你确实需要一个子宫。
埃隆·马斯克
子宫是必需的,否则目前你无法生孩子。
观众
这是必需的。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众
您的解决方案是什么?您是否赞成创建或支持一项试管婴儿代孕计划,以提高出生率?我的第2个问题是,关于改善美国教育体系的第一步,您会提出什么建议?谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我的意思是,总的来说,怎么说呢,我认为我们真的应该把出生率视为一场极其根本性的危机。怎么说呢,它,它低得实在令人震惊。你知道,美国,也就是美利坚合众国的出生率,自我出生以来就一直低于世代更替水平,大概,大概是从1971年左右开始的。
观众
那是。
埃隆·马斯克
从那以后,美国一直低于世代更替水平。而且几乎每个国家似乎都是这样,一旦达到一定的繁荣水平,出生率就会降到世代更替水平以下。然后我开始研究,嗯,这在历史上发生过吗?事实上,在过去基本上每一个文明中都发生过。
埃隆·马斯克
这也许有悖直觉,但一个文明越繁荣,出生率就越低。所以这是因为你会想,嗯,繁荣了就会有更多资源,然后就会有更多孩子。实际上并非如此。历史事实是,一个文明保持繁荣的时间越长,其出生率就变得越糟糕。而且即使在古罗马,这也是一个问题,比如在公元前50年,实际上,我们仍然保留着当时成文的罗马法律。
埃隆·马斯克
他们在公元前50年通过了法律,试图提高罗马公民的出生率。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,基本上,这是一个此前曾多次遇到过的根本性文明挑战。这并不是最近才,你知道,发生的事情。它,它,它贯穿了文明的周期。而我,我不,我希望我们至少能在一定程度上扭转它。而且我认为,这至少有一部分在于让人们有意识地认识到它。因为我遇到过许多人,他们认为地球上的人类太多了,但这并不是真的。
埃隆·马斯克
地球上的人类还不够多。事实上,你可以把地球上的所有人都放进纽约市的一层里。好吧,所以。或者,比如说,如果你飞越全国,向下看,然后说,如果你必须把一个球扔到某个人的头里,你能成功吗?你不会成功,因为人口密度非常低。
埃隆·马斯克
地球上的人其实非常少。只有当你生活在人口非常密集的城市环境中时,才会觉得人很多,觉得地球人口稠密,但实际上,人口稠密的地方只占地表面积的大约0.1%。所以,我至少想让人们有意识地认识到这一点。这样人们就不会认为地球人口过多,而事实上地球人口不足。这就是事实。是的。是的。嗯,至少可以说,比尔·盖茨和我并不是最好的朋友。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我不知道。他是。你知道,我觉得,可以说,可以说,听着,也许真正的区别不在于右翼还是左翼,而在于一个人是扩张主义者还是灭绝主义者?所以他有一些问题。这是真的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,但是,比如说,如果你说任何一个特定的文明,它都不会保持完全稳定。所以,任何一个特定的文明要么在增长,要么在衰退。因此你不得不说,你大致可以把任何人的行为分为:他们是扩张主义者还是灭绝主义者?我的意思是,显然,我非常倾向于扩张主义,因为我认为这样的未来比走向灭绝要令人兴奋得多。你知道,这样说出来时,听起来是显而易见的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,所以只是。
埃隆·马斯克
但我仍然遇到很多认为地球人口过多的人。所以我算是在反复强调这一点。我们不是人口过多,而是人口不足。而且,你知道,所以我确实赞成,你知道,我们需要通过任何方式生育孩子,无论是体外受精、代孕,还是其他任何情况。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,那当然会有所帮助,而且。但是我们就是不能走向灭绝,人类需要。你知道,我认为人类很伟大,我们应该有变得更壮大。是的,我们想要。我认为我们应该扩大意识的范围和规模,这样我们就能更好地理解宇宙的本质。我的意思是,那是我哲学的基础。让生孩子再次伟大。是的。让生孩子再次伟大。是的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,希望这有所帮助。那么谢谢。是的。
观众
你好,我是玛丽·雷斯勒,住在兰开斯特,宾夕法尼亚。我是这里的一名教师。我一直在关注你,因为你通过 XPRIZE 在全球识字方面所做的工作,因为我曾参加芭芭拉·布什 XPRIZE,开发了一款名为 Literacy Speedway 的应用。但我的热情正在转向,因为自 COVID 以来,我每天都身处一线,在教室里,我看到了心理健康问题对我们学生的影响。不只是学生,我还亲眼看到我的2个兄弟自杀。
观众
我亲眼看到我自己的女儿无法在机构里获得一个床位,不得不等上数月。我看到了心理健康危机和资源匮乏给美国家庭带来的后果。美国的心理健康体系已经失灵。所以,尽管我热衷于全球识字,而且永远都会如此,但我也想问问你,因为我知道你的合作关系、你的人脉、与选举的联系,以及新政府可能做些什么。
观众
你们能做些什么来修复美国失灵的心理健康体系?当然。
观众
嗯,
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,我很想听听你的想法和建议。我的意思是,我大致的观察是,我们确实,我们过度开药。
埃隆·马斯克
而且你知道,比如说,任何一种特定药物要获批都有很多监管,事实上监管过多。但获批之后,却没有后续跟进去看看,嘿,我们是不是犯了错?然后,那些获批的东西就变得肆无忌惮。而这正在造成很大的伤害。但实际上并没有良好的撤销机制。所以这说不通。比如,有好药没有获批,也有坏药已经获批。
埃隆·马斯克
这是一个失灵的体系,我们需要修复它。我认为,很多时候,当某个人自杀了,或者他们基本上做了,如果发生了某件、某件如此糟糕的事,比如,他们被开了什么药?这是件重要的事。你对这些有什么看法吗?
观众
我确实对此有想法?我觉得,在实体学校里,在教育环境中,不只是各州,因为我知道教育是由州规定的,尽管有全国性的共同核心课程,但在这个关头,每所学校都需要内设心理健康服务,每个州也都需要有相关机构。而不是像宾夕法尼亚州有时那样,要等6个月才能见到精神科医生,或者等12个月才能在精神卫生机构获得床位。
观众
多年前,美国的精神病院遗憾地并不是解决办法,因为它们很可怕。但当它们被撤销后,权力转交给了各州,联邦资金被撤走,而现在你有的是门诊服务,缺少能开药的人,缺少咨询师,需要更多。而现在,我们的监狱系统每天都收容着将近一半。而我可以给你这些数据,你知道,他们在那里不是因为他们是罪犯。
观众
他们在那里是因为有心理健康问题,而这需要得到解决。
埃隆·马斯克
有没有哪些特定药物是你认为应该撤出市场或加入市场的?
观众
我认为,每个孩子在被诊断出心理健康问题时,都应该有。有一种针对它的检测,有某种舌头检测,可以判定哪些药物对你有效、哪些无效。然而,作为家长,你必须主动要求做这项检测。根据我在这方面的经验,无论是与在学区工作的家长打交道,还是从朋友和其他熟人那里了解的情况,我可以保证,大多数人甚至都不知道它的存在,因为保险不支付这项检测,而大多数美国人负担不起。
观众
所以,当一些项目不在你的保险承保范围内时,它们就不会被提供,比如医生不会开那个。那是做过的。所以你必须有自我意识和相关知识,才能去做那项检测。而遗憾的是,大多数人根本不知道它甚至存在。
埃隆·马斯克
好的,好吧。嗯,我认为这绝对是我们需要弄得更明白的事情。
埃隆·马斯克
显然,我同意你的看法,确实存在心理健康问题。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为,我们需要看看哪些药物真的有效,以及副作用是什么。其中一些,我的意思是,是的,坦率地说,我认为一些被开出的药物相当可疑,我的意思是,我从人们那里听到的一些关于某些精神科药物的经历相当糟糕。比如,在某些情况下,他们没有,他们没有自杀的原因是他们服用了药物,而不是没有服药的时候。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,人们确实需要信仰某种东西。所以,你知道,我想大概自然厌恶真空。因此,如果存在,你知道,当然有一种有力的论点认为,宗教的衰落导致人们去寻求一种新宗教,本质上是一种世俗宗教。
埃隆·马斯克
所以那就是,你知道,觉醒主义本质上是一种世俗宗教,但人们非常、非常狂热地信奉它。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,是的,是的。
埃隆·马斯克
这是,这是支持教会的一个有力、有力的论点。我同意。
埃隆·马斯克
他们需要实质内容,他们需要自然的东西。
埃隆·马斯克
哦,那倒是真的。
埃隆·马斯克
好吧,嗯,让我们看看。所以。
观众
你好。
埃隆·马斯克
你好。
观众
晚上好。我叫珍妮尔。很高兴见到你。
埃隆·马斯克
很高兴见到你。
观众
实际上,我首先想感谢你,而且可能也代表在场所有人感谢你创建了这个团体和推荐机会。我想这里的每个人都心怀感激。我把它看作支持我确实关心、也不希望看到被取消的两项修正案的一种方式。其次,我把它看作这样一种方式:如果我能推荐我的朋友、家人以及我能去推荐的所有人,我就能赚点外快。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众
我丈夫和我实际上正在自费进行我们自己的生育之旅。我有一些原因不明的不孕问题,所以那笔钱实际上将用来支付我们下个月的账单。
埃隆·马斯克
对。
观众
而且我一直想成为一名母亲,我有一个当母亲的梦想,我知道总有一天会实现。我很关注你对人口问题的担忧。我不知道你是否和特朗普总统谈过,但我很想知道,你是否会考虑让政治行动委员会提供补助,或者倡议设立生育补助,让像我这样的美国人能够负担得起,并生一个孩子。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,嗯,我非常支持生孩子,所以会的。是的,绝对会。我非常支持生孩子,所以会的,绝对会。
埃隆·马斯克
嘿,埃隆。我叫弗曼·琼斯,我只是想先说,我真的相信你。谢谢你。我知道这里的每个人都出于这样或那样的原因相信你,而我甚至能有机会问你一个问题,就已经非常感激了。不过无论如何,我也信奉宪法,我也信奉《圣经》,而这正是我要问你的。好的。《圣经》说,没有人是完美的,而且这个世界上不存在完美的政府形式,因为贪婪不可避免。
埃隆·马斯克
就像丘吉尔所说,民主是最糟糕的政府形式,除了其他所有形式之外。对。但《圣经》确实说有一种政府是完美的,那就是上帝的国。以赛亚书33:22说,耶和华是我们的审判者,耶和华是我们的王,耶和华是我们的立法者。所以我觉得你的世界观有很多地方都符合《圣经》的原则,而我们需要基督徒去投票,并看清贪婪,看清共产主义是邪恶与贪婪最极端的体现。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,这就是我的问题。我们怎样才能让基督徒去投票?而且如果你有时间,是什么让你没有信奉《圣经》,或者没有更公开地谈论它?是的,嗯,有件事确实很有意思,我其实听说,福音派人士,也就是那些信仰非常坚定的人,其中投票的人所占比例小得惊人。我原本以为。而且我希望。是的,嗯,不管怎样,这是别人告诉我的。
埃隆·马斯克
但我当然希望有更多人、更多基督徒去投票。那会很棒。请务必这么做。是的,我的意思是,我是,你知道,在基督教环境中长大的,而且去过。实际上,有点奇怪的是,我上过主日学校。我还被送去过一所希伯来学前班。你知道,我不是犹太人,但我当时。我不知道,我想那可能就在附近之类的,你知道,所以我就像,今天跟着《吉拉》蹦蹦跳跳,第二天又说耶稣是我们的主。
埃隆·马斯克
然后我就觉得,很好。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,所以,你知道,我当然。我相信,比如说,基督的教诲。我相信,你知道,他就像,我相信基督教原则,你知道,爱你的邻人。我相信转过另一边脸,这对于拥有宽恕非常重要。因为如果你没有宽恕,就会有无休止的报复循环。你知道,比如,你知道,我过去常想,为什么要转过另一边脸?
埃隆·马斯克
那太荒谬了。你知道,用海绵擦他们。
埃隆·马斯克
但是。而且我认为你确实需要强大起来。就是说,你不能软弱。因为如果有人。如果你面对的是某种掠夺性威胁,而那个威胁比你更强,并且那个威胁不信奉基督教价值观,那么你就会直接被处决。我的意思是,我不知道。但到了某个时候,一旦你强大起来。
埃隆·马斯克
一旦你强大起来,就应该宽恕他人的过错。
埃隆·马斯克
而这显然不是中东那边的人所信奉的,这就是为什么那里存在这种无休止的暴力循环,你知道,所以我真的认为,是的,我们应该。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。应该爱你的邻人,我们应该宽恕,我们应该。
埃隆·马斯克
我们应该仁慈而温和。所以,是的,我相信耶稣所。我相信耶稣所说的话。
观众
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的。
观众
你好。
埃隆·马斯克
埃隆·马斯克。我叫格兰特·诺格尔。嗨,家人们。真的、真的很高兴见到你。我的第一个问题是,你对生命、宇宙以及一切有答案吗?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,经典答案是42,而420只不过是1042的复数。
埃隆·马斯克
有意思。但我真正的问题。是的,抱歉。我真正的问题是,你曾经得到过的最有用、最有力量的一条建议是什么?
埃隆·马斯克
最有用的一条建议。
埃隆·马斯克
这可不好回答。
埃隆·马斯克
确实如此。投票给共和党。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我的意思是,这听起来也许会像是,也许我相信,怎么说呢,如果你学习物理,如果你学习。我只是建议学习物理,你知道,还有物理学的工具,也就是那些思维工具,它不只是一堆。重要的不是记住一堆公式。重要的是促成那些公式被发现的思维过程。
埃隆·马斯克
它有点像批判性思维、第一性原理、分析,努力从最根本的层面理解什么是真实的,然后从那里逐步推理,并在任何特定领域中,用最根本的真相检验你的结论。
埃隆·马斯克
你可以通过这种方式判断某件事是否更有可能为真。而且我认为用概率来思考是件好事。所以,你接收到关于某个主题的信息时,它应该改变你所得结论的概率,但不应改变你对结论的确定性。结论,比如说,物理学教导你,对于任何特定的预测,你都不应该有100%的把握。
埃隆·马斯克
当然,有些事情发生的可能性很高,但物理学教导你,必须为某件事为真的可能性赋予一个概率。然后,随着你了解到更多信息,你最初的结论可能是错的。然后,你知道,你就应该根据新信息改变想法。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,你可以把智力理解为,它有多么擅长。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为,衡量智力的正确指标大概是预测未来的能力。如果你能很好地预测未来,那么你,你能在多大程度上预测未来,就有多聪明。嗯,因为如果某件事,如果有人声称,嗯,这个东西、这个人或这个AI非常聪明,那么,它的预测有多准?如果它的预测不是很好,那它就没那么聪明。所以我认为,这就是智力的关键本质。
埃隆·马斯克
而如果你正试图决定未来该做什么,那真的。归根结底就是预测未来。而要预测未来,你必须批判性地思考过去,并不断努力少犯错。所以,也许那会是。也许在最佳建议中,这也会名列前茅:立志少犯错。
埃隆·马斯克
嗨,埃隆。是的。首先,非常感谢你今天让我们来到这里。我们一直很感激,有一位拥有你这种影响力的人能够倾听普通人,并让我们的声音在某种程度上被听见。而且,一个人能见到自己的英雄并向他提问,也不是每天都有的事。所以我的主要问题是,自新冠疫情以来,现任政府确实让小企业陷入了困境,尤其是在宾州这里,我们看到小企业的创办大幅下降,而且我本人认识好几家小企业,它们因为不断增加的监管、税收,诸如此类的原因而不得不关门。
埃隆·马斯克
没错。过度监管造成的负担非常沉重,它压垮了许多小公司,也让大公司的运营效率大幅降低。那么,你认为我们这些小企业主和非小企业主该如何与之抗争?此外,作为一名前小企业主,你能做些什么来为我们抗争?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我的意思是,正如你所说,我认为大幅削减政府支出和政府的过度监管,就像我所说的,美国正受到过度监管的某种扼杀,这将开启一个繁荣的新时代。只要允许人们做有用且富有成效的事情,不要把它变成一场为期2年的许可噩梦,而现实中往往就是如此,也不要让小企业背负会使它们破产的税负。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,这相当直截了当。就像我说的,有超过400个联邦机构管控着我们的生活,这有点令人难以置信,其中大多数机构人们从未听说过,但它们确实会影响你的生活,而且总体上是负面影响。所以我们只需要少得多的机构,让政府别再压着你。是的。
埃隆·马斯克
你好,我叫马可,来自兰开斯特。感谢你抽出时间。我相信时间是你能给予任何组织的最宝贵的东西。所以谢谢你。你好,真正货币先生。谢谢您,先生。那么我的问题是,我妻子是归化的美国公民,她已经登记投票了。我已经提前投了票。我只是想知道,你是否愿意谈谈,我的意思是,我们走了正确的途径。我们花了数年时间和金钱,以正确的方式让她完成了归化。
埃隆·马斯克
你是否愿意谈谈你在移民方面的经历,以及除了确保边境安全之外,你认为该如何修复这个体系?是的,嗯,既然你妻子已经经历了成为公民和取得绿卡的流程,你已经看到这个过程慢得多么荒谬,又多么艰难。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,我是说,我认为合理的总体原则,和你经营一支职业运动队或一家公司的原则是一样的,也就是:你希望谁加入你的团队?如果某个人会富有成效,也就是富有成效、诚实,并且总体上能作出贡献,那他就会是团队很棒的新成员。欢迎加入。这个过程不应该很漫长,因为他们创造的会比消耗的更多。
埃隆·马斯克
他们会让每个人的生活变得更好。所以,我们现在有这样一种匪夷所思的怪异局面:以杀人犯的身份进入这个国家,竟然比以诺贝尔奖得主的身份进入更容易,确实如此。这并不夸张。就像,什么?你知道,这就像,我是说,就像如果你有机会,比方说,让勒布朗·詹姆斯或斯蒂芬·库里加入你的球队,你会说,对啊,那完全合理。
埃隆·马斯克
我们的球队会赢。他们会让整支球队变得更好。你知道,所以我们实际上希望,我们需要让事情成为它们应有的样子,也就是让诚实、勤奋、有才华的人合法移民既快捷又容易,而非法进入这个国家则很难。事情本该如此。
埃隆·马斯克
对。所以说真的,好吧,我有一个有点疯狂的想法,这个肯定会上新闻,那就是:如果我们把合法移民的工作交给 Chick-fil-A,会怎么样?他们效率太高了。
埃隆·马斯克
他们做的鸡肉三明治非常棒。他们的鸡肉三明治堪称史诗级。而且他们能做出无数个,就是能把事情办成。我觉得我们应该把移民工作交给 Chick-fil-A。他们会干得非常出色。
埃隆·马斯克
这会成为一条新闻标题。
埃隆·马斯克
您好,马斯克先生。不过说真的,那会很棒。您好,马斯克先生。很荣幸见到您。我的问题是这样的,我是以一名首次投票者的身份提问。我们知道,特朗普没有、也一直没有接受2020年大选的结果;前总统自己的国土安全部称那次选举是美国历史上最安全的选举。同样。同样,我在1月6日期间从新闻中看到了对选举人票计票工作的暴力扰乱。
观众
而我是以一名首次投票者的身份提出这个问题,而这名选民。
埃隆·马斯克
想辨明真相。当然。对于像我这样担心投票支持特朗普第二个总统任期会导致民主倒退的年轻选民,您会说些什么来消除他们的担忧?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我认为这是一个合理的问题。说真的。
埃隆·马斯克
这是一个合理的问题。我是说,问题是,对,就像,我想正确地阐述这一点,而且显然,无论我说什么,传统媒体都会从我的话中截取一小段,并曲解我的意思,他们已经多次这样对待特朗普总统。非常重要的是,如果你听到了关于特朗普总统的负面说法,要听他的完整演讲。这实际上非常重要,你知道,而且,你知道,关于1月6日,我是说,他当天的声明中,他让人们退让。
埃隆·马斯克
我是说,他说过。他说,不要实施暴力。然后人们就说,嗯,那实际上是某种暗示实施暴力的隐语。我就想,那你应该说什么?你知道,他确实让人们不要使用暴力。他建议部署国民警卫队。南希·佩洛西说不。
埃隆·马斯克
所以他并没有号召任何暴力。没错。而且,如果你看看,虽然很明显,你知道,我认为那是,你知道,就像混乱程度很高。而我不。我当然不赞同任何破坏公共财产的行为,但这。
埃隆·马斯克
媒体试图把1月6日描述成某种暴力叛乱,但事实根本不是这样。我的意思是,那是虚假的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,我会采取。我想,可能是我认为合理的中间立场,也就是,我不赞同抗议的程度,但那绝不是暴力叛乱,你知道,所以要成为暴力叛乱,那里必须有很多枪。而且在投票违规方面,存在很多难以解释的奇怪事情。那又怎样?这。对,我的意思是,有些事情从统计上看不太可能,我就这么说吧。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,并不是说1月6日的抗议者。他们的抗议毫无依据。他们有一些依据。我不赞同他们所作所为的。程度。但并不是说不存在任何问题。其实确实存在问题。
埃隆·马斯克
而且美国现在有这样一种奇怪的情况:要证明欺诈几乎是不可能的,因为如果没有选民身份证件,又有邮寄选票,你怎么证明欺诈?
埃隆·马斯克
而且,你知道,我们没有选民身份证件,这确实不只是有一点奇怪。然后你看看,比如加利福尼亚州这样的州,民主党占绝对多数,他们通过了一项法律,禁止在任何选举中要求选民身份证件。那么,这怎么是在支持民主?
埃隆·马斯克
那不是在支持民主。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,这太疯狂了。地球上几乎每个国家都有选民身份证件要求,但我们没有,为什么?为什么那些要求你无论做什么都要出示疫苗接种证明的人,正是那些说投票不需要身份证件的人。
埃隆·马斯克
有些事情说不通。
埃隆·马斯克
这说不通。你知道,所以我实际上认为,我的看法是,那些说特朗普是民主威胁的人,他们自己才是民主的威胁。
埃隆·马斯克
欢呼起来。
埃隆·马斯克
对。
埃隆·马斯克
呜。我告诉你,刚才太棒了。
埃隆·马斯克
阴谋曾是理论,现在却成了真相。我的意思是,说实话,到了这个时候。到了这个时候,我们都快没有阴谋论了,因为其中太多都成真了。对吧。那个。那个我们需要。我们真的需要。能不能请谁想出一些新的阴谋?政府是来帮忙的。政府?我的意思是,甚至青蛙的事都可能是真的。你知道,青蛙的情况可能是。我不知道。
观众
对。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,阴谋,政府。我们是来帮忙的。对,可能听过那句话。对,对。嗯,埃隆,愿上帝保佑你。很高兴见到你。也愿上帝保佑你。我叫安德鲁·马里斯基。宾夕法尼亚州兰开斯特本地人。对,我是一家理发店的小企业主,就在这条街往下走10分钟的地方。对。店名叫Legacy Barbers。有机会的话,我很乐意给你理一次发。谢谢。所以我想问你一个问题,也想用下面这几句话鼓励你。
埃隆·马斯克
神学家兼哲学家奥古斯丁说:主啊,你为自己创造了我们,我们的心永无安宁,直到它安息于你之中。《历代志下》7章14节说:这称为我名下的子民,若是自卑、祷告、寻求我的面,转离他们的恶行,我必从天上垂听,赦免他们的罪,医治他们的地。所以,兄弟,我想用这些话鼓励你。
埃隆·马斯克
对,这些话非常、非常好。非常好的话。阿门。阿门。还有,埃隆,我跟你说。
埃隆·马斯克
我关注你有一段时间了,听着你说的那些话,我们国家需要更多像你这样的男人,他们敢于这样做,不怕对抗媒体。Legacy。对。他们不怕反对那些认为我们是有毒的人。男子气概。我们需要更多男人。对。你知道,对于有毒的男子气概,我有一个很好的反驳,那就是,如果男子气概如此有毒,为什么那些出了问题的孩子都没有父亲?
埃隆·马斯克
你给我解释解释。你给我解释解释,还有你之前说过的话,对此我说阿门。对。而且我实际上将在2月3日当爸爸。恭喜。我要有孩子了。
埃隆·马斯克
感谢主。
埃隆·马斯克
但你不久前发的那条推文写道,甚至根本没有人试图刺杀拜登或卡玛拉。对。因为那毫无意义。
埃隆·马斯克
没人费心去刺杀一个傀儡。对吧?对。你知道,人们什么时候才会开始看清,我们的国家不是?他们一直说民主。它是一个宪政共和国。你能不能务必,如果你不介意的话,不断提醒人们,我们是一个共和国。我们自由,我们自由是因为基督耶稣,也因为那些为这个国家牺牲并流血的男女。这绝对。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。阿门,兄弟。
埃隆·马斯克
对。
埃隆·马斯克
对,你说得对。我的意思是,许多人为了让这个国家成为今天、今天这个样子而牺牲。许多人牺牲了。
埃隆·马斯克
完全正确。阿门。而且,天哪,人们把这一切视为理所当然,你知道,所以。
埃隆·马斯克
对,嗯,America Pack有点像反索罗斯团体,你知道,必须对此采取点行动。
埃隆·马斯克
所以就像,你知道,我不知道那家伙是怎么回事,但说实话,把地方检察官安插进去,就像。就像。就像小丑掌权了,你知道,就像,选出不对犯罪提起公诉的地方检察官,这太疯狂了。那简直就像《蝙蝠侠:黑暗骑士》。我的意思是,就像,你知道,把公民关起来,把罪犯放出去。这太疯狂了。这正在发生。对。我的意思是,就像,什么。这完全是疯了,所以我们需要阻止这种事。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。所以,让美国再次伟大。是的。嗯,我认为美国很伟大,但我们希望它更加伟大,我们希望做很了不起的事情。我们希望做。而你想要。你想要期待未来,并受到未来的鼓舞、为未来感到兴奋。你知道,那才让人生值得度过。还有一件事。是的。
埃隆·马斯克
好的。你研究过掰手腕这项太空运动吗?哦,是的。掰手腕。我研究过。不算深入,但我确实研究过,而且有一阵子,我确实还读过相关资料,以及实际在掰手腕中取胜的各种技巧,其中很多就是,你知道,找好角度,让全身都参与进来,并找好角度,这样你实际上就能,比如说,如果你懂掰手腕的技巧,而对方不懂,你实际上可以和一个比你壮得多的人对抗。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,是的。不,不。我的意思是,我会挑战拜登,但那太荒谬了。你知道,那太不公平了。所以,谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
他可以用2只。要是他用2只手呢?是的,那也可以。
埃隆·马斯克
让。让掰手腕再次伟大。是的。让掰手腕再次伟大。当然。愿上帝保佑。
观众
谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
愿上帝保佑。
埃隆·马斯克
好的。
观众
你好,伊兰。我叫莫莉。我只想感谢你在宾夕法尼亚州投入这么多时间。我觉得你正在做的事情非常了不起,而且正在产生真正的影响。所以愿上帝保佑你。而且我认为你是国宝。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。
观众
我主要担心的是国债,我知道你谈了很多关于削减支出的事情,但我想知道,你认为哪些特朗普政策和行业将有助于增加收入。顺着这个话题,你有没有计划把Tesla更多的生产制造带
埃隆·马斯克
回美国?嗯,Tesla实际上是美国的一家大型制造商。事实上,近年来建成的最大工厂就是Tesla在得克萨斯州的工厂。所以那就是。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。然后内华达州还有另一座大工厂。所以有内华达超级工厂和得克萨斯超级工厂,也许有一天还会有宾夕法尼亚超级工厂。
埃隆·马斯克
所以那、那、那会是,那会非常酷。我非常信奉制造业。我热爱制造业。我喜欢制造东西。我花很多时间在工厂里走动巡视。我曾在工厂里住过一阵子,真的是住在工厂里。其实那有点像,有点像拉斯维加斯,因为我甚至看不到外面,但灯总是亮着。
埃隆·马斯克
但Tesla也经历过一些艰难时期。要让任何类型的制造公司运转起来都真的很困难。
埃隆·马斯克
而且你知道。是的,Tesla实际上至今仍是加利福尼亚州最大的制造业雇主。但该州并不是特别感激。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。但是,但是,是的,我……所以我们在美国进行大量制造,而且我们不断投资并增加我们在美国的制造活动,SpaceX 也是一家规模庞大的制造商。你知道,SpaceX 是世界上最大的火箭和卫星制造商。而且。是的,所以,而且那些,那些,那些全都在美国。所以 SpaceX 的制造全都在美国,而,而且 Tesla 在美国也有大量制造业务,比如巨型工厂。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我是制造业的坚定信奉者。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,我的意思是,我确实认为改革税法是合理的,因为它极其复杂,而且漏洞太多了。你知道,经常有人向我推销这些漏洞。我就是这样知道它们存在的。我会说,那听起来很可疑。我觉得我们不该那么做。他们会说,嗯,很多其他人都这么干而没受处罚。我们会说,是啊,但我还是觉得我们不该这么做。是的。顺便说一句,我是历史上缴税最多的个人,所以我缴了100亿美元的税。
埃隆·马斯克
超过100亿美元的税。不客气。就好像,我本来还以为国税局会,你知道,给我寄个小奖杯之类的。你知道,就像那种,不必很贵。可以是,你知道,那种孩子们赢得空手道比赛时拿到的东西,比如一个小小的塑料金色奖杯之类的,或者一块饼干什么的。但我什么也没拿到,我当时就像,你知道,而且。
埃隆·马斯克
但我很乐意缴这些税。我不介意,你知道。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,这周是很不错的一周。是的。股市很疯狂。疯狂。就像坐过山车,你知道,我觉得沃伦·巴菲特说过一句很好的,很好。其实他说过很多很好的话。但他有一句话,我想大概是,你知道,拥有一家上市公司就像有人站在你家门外,整天大喊房价。而房子还是同一栋房子。然后你会想,这个人为什么整天冲我喊房价?
埃隆·马斯克
而身处一家上市公司就是这种感觉。他们整天只管冲你喊股价。就像,嗯,它其实仍然和昨天差不多是同一家公司。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,处于上市状态有点奇怪。但不管怎样,我认为我们应该简化税法,取消许多例外和漏洞,让报税变得容易。它不该是这种极其复杂的事情。是的。
埃隆·马斯克
但总体而言,我认为,如果联邦支出减少,那么税收也会减少。所以那样。而且我们必须削减联邦支出。除了削减联邦支出,没有其他办法可以弥补。正如我之前提到的,我认为有一个非常重要的要点,人们必须明白,那就是所有联邦支出都是税收,因为联邦政府没有通过直接收入获得的部分,他们会用通货膨胀来弥补。
埃隆·马斯克
他们直接印钱。所以所有联邦支出都是税收。非常重要的原则。几乎没人。似乎很少有人甚至,就像,你知道,有些人一辈子都在研究经济学。我会跟他们提,嘿,所有支出,所有联邦支出都是税收。他们会,起初会和我争辩,然后他们会认同它就是,因为它要么是直接税收收入,要么就是通货膨胀。
埃隆·马斯克
所有联邦支出都是税收。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我们必须削减联邦支出,否则我们这个国家会破产。
埃隆·马斯克
好了。
观众
嘿,各位。
埃隆·马斯克
我是来自宾夕法尼亚州韦斯特切斯特的查德·威克。我上周在……见过你。我上周在哈里斯堡见过你。从那以后,我戴着我的 MAGA 帽子四处走动时,比
观众
以往任何时候都更自豪。
埃隆·马斯克
你真的激励我越来越多地戴着它。对。从那以后,我的车被人用钥匙划了,不过没关系。
观众
是的,没关系。
埃隆·马斯克
特朗普被空中的一颗子弹击中了,看看他。他挺好的。所以,是的,还有人推着购物车到处追我。但没错,这种事会发生。
观众
那只是。
埃隆·马斯克
那是宾州韦斯特切斯特的一部分。
观众
嗯,说实话,
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,到这时候,这就像挥舞反叛旗一样,老兄。
观众
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道吗?
观众
是的。真的。
埃隆·马斯克
这是一次冒险。是的。有些人对我发火了。是的,非常生气。不过这次我确实有一个问题。其实,我在 X 上认识了一个人。我做播客,而且我直接通过这个平台在 X 上认识了一个人。我会称他为朋友。他叫德里克,他患有一种叫作脊柱裂的病。现在正是脊柱裂月。所以是脊柱裂宣传月。我想让大家了解的是,这是一种脊柱实验,伴有某种脊柱方面的问题。
埃隆·马斯克
而且他从来都不能走路。真的吗?从来没有?
观众
哇。
埃隆·马斯克
我想不是。根据我了解到的情况,他从来没有。他一辈子,他的整个一生都不能走路。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我的问题是,对于残障群体和像他这样的人,像是,像 Neuralink 这样的东西会有帮助吗?还有,特朗普政府会为残障人士做些什么来帮助他们?有什么吗?嗯,是的,所以我认为,我认为其实有很多东西,比如医疗器械和药物,本来可以获批,却有点陷在监管的糖浆里。就是,它们只是,你知道,想让任何新东西获批,就像穿着铅鞋在糖浆里奔跑。
埃隆·马斯克
真的很慢。所以,你知道,我的一位好朋友告诉我,他妈妈被诊断出患有脑癌,医生说,嗯,那基本上就完了,你知道。然后他去谈了。但他是个非常有进取心的人,所以他不接受这个答案。他问了自己认识的每一个聪明人,有没有什么东西能帮助治愈脑癌?结果发现有一种叫 Wellyrig 的药,当时我相信正在哈佛进行试验,它治好了他妈妈的脑癌。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我就在想,外面有多少个 welly rig?也许有一大堆这样的药,还有设备以及各种东西。我们应该,你知道,就像我之前说的,我们需要加快药物审批,确保人们,你知道,确保人们被适当地告知利弊。然后,获批后也需要进行一些跟进,比如说,是不是有某样不该获批的东西获批了,然后。
埃隆·马斯克
或者是否需要增加额外警告。
埃隆·马斯克
这很常见。我觉得这是常识。你知道,就是。但比如,当你和政府打交道时,常识就说不通了。比如,你知道,常识撞上政府就直接弹开了,就像水从鸭背上滑落一样,你知道,我的意思是,这就像跟机动车管理局争论。不可能。他们倒是很快就推出了那个新冠疫苗。他们确实很快就推出了新冠疫苗。是的。那很奇怪。而且他们让每个人都接种,这就很糟糕。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我不认为人们应该被迫接种疫苗,除非他们违背自己的意愿。
埃隆·马斯克
嗨,埃隆。我叫亚历克斯·甘布尔,来自黎巴嫩县。首先,我想真诚感谢你所做的一切。我认为你是一位美国爱国者。我真这么认为。我爱美国。我真的爱。我的意思是,听着,我爱美国。有时候人们会说,那不过是沙文主义宣传。我就说,我不在乎。我喜欢沙文主义宣传。太棒了。你知道,就像愿上帝保佑美国。我真他妈的。这太棒了。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。我同意。是的。最近有新闻称,兰开斯特县发现了2,500份可能存在欺诈的选民登记表格,你对邮寄选票有什么看法?我们将来是否应该废除它们?我还,我还想。我们将来应该废除它们。我的意思是,邮寄选票是一种奇怪的反常现象,在新冠疫情期间流行起来。但,但实际上,你,你拥有一个显而易见的欺诈配方,同时又无法证明欺诈。
埃隆·马斯克
如果你没有身份证,没有选民身份证,而且还有邮寄选票,对吧?比如,你甚至没法放一个。你甚至没法。比如,比如,比如,比如很多年前,我的一个朋友告诉我,他,他父亲实际上帮助改善了墨西哥的民主。而,而方法是组织一大群公民,就站在。投票站或选举站外面,拿着计数器,只计算进去的人数。
埃隆·马斯克
因为很明显,如果票数比人数还多,那就有问题。是的。而,而结果发现,他们的票数比人数多了很多。他们就说,哦,这有点奇怪。所以无论如何,但那,那确实极大地帮助解决了墨西哥的情况。但,但,但如果你不,如果你采用邮寄选票,你就没法数。就像,你甚至不知道发生了什么。我还想请你帮个忙。
埃隆·马斯克
我。我儿子叫埃隆。真的吗?我们是以你的名字给他取名的。哇。谢谢。他3岁。你鼓舞了我。我希望能得到你的签名,等他长大后送给他。嗯,再进一步,我没法对此说不。
埃隆·马斯克
我是说,从一个埃隆到另一个埃隆,你知道,其实,你知道,我其实是。我好像是以我的美国曾祖父命名的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我有点像是奥巴马的反面。我来自非洲,名字取自一位美国人。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。不过,是的,约翰·埃隆·霍尔德曼是我的曾祖父,而这个名字取自他的中间名。所以我想他好像来自明尼苏达州,我记得是。对。
观众
嘿,埃隆。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯。
观众
我叫詹妮弗·卢卡斯。你听得出来,我没有宾夕法尼亚口音,但我确实住在这里。我是合法投票的,我保证。
埃隆·马斯克
当然。我相信。
观众
我来自西弗吉尼亚州南部。
埃隆·马斯克
好的。
观众
说实话,我脑子里有很多问题,从教育到毒品泛滥。这里受到了非常严重的冲击。但现在有一件事我真的很想问你,那就是说客。如果我买选票,我会坐牢。他们在议事厅里、在华盛顿特区的表决现场买选票,却没问题,对吧?
观众
这正在影响我们作为美国公民的发言权。所以我们能做些什么来禁止
观众
华盛顿特区的说客,好让我们夺回自己的权力?
埃隆·马斯克
亚太地区。哦,美国包。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我是说,你知道,我实际上参与制作过一部名叫《谢谢你k抽烟》的电影。我不知道有没有人看过那部电影,但它是。那是一部讲政治腐败、讲说客和政治腐败在。的电影。而且,你知道,值得一看。《谢谢你抽烟》。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,你知道,那是。
埃隆·马斯克
其实电影里那架飞机的飞行员就是我。所以这是个非常小的角色。但那部电影探讨了华盛顿特区因各种游说活动而存在的腐败。事实上,立法主要是由说客起草的。然后国会基本上就是给说客写的东西盖章通过。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为我们大概确实需要审视一下什么样的规则是合理的,因为民选立法者的职责显然是为人民的利益立法。所以,如果所进行的立法不符合人民的利益,而这种情况经常发生,那就有问题了。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。而且确实会出现这些,比如监管俘获的情况,就是,你知道,一个行业里的公司最终控制了监管机构,阻止新参与者进入市场,让新公司很难,你知道,进入市场。
埃隆·马斯克
总之,我想制作那部电影是有原因的,就是要突出华盛顿特区存在大量腐败,并希望这种腐败能少一些。至少如此。
埃隆·马斯克
这很难。而且,你知道,这也是为什么我认为大政府机器如此反对特朗普,因为他不受所有这些利益势力摆布,你知道,所以他实质上没有被俘获。他不是傀儡。
埃隆·马斯克
所以这种。大政府机器非常担心选出一个不是傀儡的人。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,我是说,我当然主张制定,你知道,更好的规则,限制公司在华盛顿特区进行游说的权力,或者就此而言,在州一级进行游说的权力。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我是说,比如说火星。人们有时会问我,比如,嗯,我认为什么样的治理制度适合火星?我就会说,嗯,那得由火星人决定,你知道,但是,但是,但是我会推荐直接民主,而不是代议制民主,由人民直接投票。而且,你知道,过去,在有电子……之前,在有比如互联网和电子设备之前,你必须实行代议制民主,因为你没法。
埃隆·马斯克
你没法。你必须。就像传统媒体一样,你必须通过邮件收集人们的意见,或者确实通过口头方式,或者通过用羽毛笔写在,你知道,类似卷轴那样的东西上的信件,你知道,很慢。所以你必须实行代议制民主。你无法实行直接民主。但我对火星的建议是,任何事情都由人民直接投票,而且任何一项具体的立法都必须短到足以让人理解。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,比如说,如果它,你知道,不是。不超过1000个词,也许300个,立法文本越长,情况就越糟。而且。而且我们的立法文本比《指环王》还长,而比如,根本没人读过,你知道,还有,很快,
观众
我只是想感谢你所做的一切。我看见你,也看见你的真心,我知道你热爱人类,而不只是美国。我做你所做的一切。这表明你深切关心每一个人。谢谢你。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。
观众
我有很多想法,如果你什么时候想听,我们可以坐下来共进晚餐。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。好了。
埃隆·马斯克
你好,埃隆。我叫斯蒂芬·马奇索特。我住在兰开斯特县。很高兴见到你。你曾在一次求职面试中说,当被问到你最大的弱点是什么时,你说是诚实,这让我觉得非常有意思。那个人说,嗯,那不算弱点。而我觉得很迷人的是,你敢于对抗任何人并说出自己的想法。我的问题是,说真话是有代价的。诚实是有代价的。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。而且你不害怕付出那个代价。嗯,希望不会是致命的那种,你知道。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。我想,我在想这在你的人生中是从哪里来的,因为,你知道,你所做的一切都给人带来了了不起的鼓舞。是的,我可以,我完全可以告诉你。所以,像是,这个,我是说,首先,你知道,像是,我想我努力做到诚实,但我有时也会错。所以显然,你知道,可以一直都是对的。所以。而且我确实相信,像是,你知道,人应该愿意接受纠正。我之所以相信某种真相和诚实,是因为我就像是,我正试图理解宇宙,我正试图理解现实,你知道,试图理解,像是,生命的意义是什么?
埃隆·马斯克
比如,我们为什么在这里?比如,到底,到底发生了什么?
埃隆·马斯克
而如果你不追求真相,如果你对真相和诚实不够严谨,那么显然你会生活在一个充满妄想的世界里。你不会理解。你不会理解现实的本质。你不会理解。所以我只是,我只是好奇,我想理解现实的本质。所以这就要求严格坚持真相。
埃隆·马斯克
也补充一句。谢谢。我同样觉得很了不起的是,像是,你知道,你能站出来,就自己对特朗普的感受说出真相。另一边有那么多名人,而且,是啊,有这么多名人挺奇怪的。你知道,我就像,像是,他们为什么。他们这是怎么回事?是的,没错。你是唯一一个拥有巨大影响力、能够真正站出来支持特朗普的人。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我确实认为,我认识一些原本犹豫不决、但因为你而转向特朗普的人。所以我觉得,太好了,你正在这次选举中产生巨大的影响。就像你凭一己之力做到的,而在你所做的其他所有事情之外,这也是一份了不起的遗产。所以谢谢你。嗯,我在努力,我正在尽我最大的努力,你知道,我想要,我正努力产生尽可能大的影响。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,是的,我是说,我确实认为,像是我们正处于一个,就像我说的,命运的岔路口,你知道,像是,这个,是的,如果特朗普没有当选,我不确定此后是否还会有选举。你知道,所以,这个,我是说,基本上,在我看来,目前正在发生的是向摇摆州大规模输入选民。如果你看看民主党政府报告的实际数字,每个摇摆州的非法移民人数都出现了3位数百分比的增长。
埃隆·马斯克
我看到的数字是,宾夕法尼亚州3年内增长了240%。而像是,那,你知道,如果获胜优势像是,上次是80,000票,那么,如果你引入像是300,000名受制于民主党机器、并获得一大堆救济的非法移民,会发生什么?即使他们在社会观念上可能并不认同民主党人,他们的首要任务也是把朋友和家人带进这个国家,而这会得到民主党人的支持,却不会得到共和党人的支持。
埃隆·马斯克
所以正在发生的就是选民输入。
埃隆·马斯克
而让摇摆州永久变成深蓝州并不需要太多。这就是加利福尼亚州发生的事。所以,像是,像是我喜欢里根,但他确实在1986年签署了一项大赦,某种非法移民大赦,此后,原本是红州或摇摆州、但主要是红州的加利福尼亚州变成了蓝州,然后变成了深蓝州。而现在,加利福尼亚州通过了一项法律,禁止在任何选举中实行选民身份核验,哪怕是镇议会选举也不行。
埃隆·马斯克
这就是他们会对整个国家做的事。
埃隆·马斯克
套路很明显,因为我们只要看看他们对加利福尼亚州做了什么就知道了。如果能做到,他们会在宾夕法尼亚州做同样的事,也会在全国其他所有地方做同样的事。而特朗普是阻止这种情况发生的唯一机会。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我告诉你,我告诉你,它甚至,它之所以如此,是因为人们觉得,情况会比加利福尼亚州更糟,因为让加利福尼亚州不至于比现在更加疯狂的唯一一件事,就是人们可以搬到其他州,同时仍然身处美国。但如果你无法搬到任何其他州呢?情况会比加利福尼亚州糟糕得多。所以这影响深远。你最喜欢哪支棒球队?
埃隆·马斯克
洋基队。
埃隆·马斯克
好吧,抱歉,好吧,听着,我喜欢这个名字,好吧。这是个很棒的名字。
埃隆·马斯克
抱歉,抱歉,抱歉。啊,我都做了什么?
埃隆·马斯克
你好,埃隆,我叫大卫,是宾夕法尼亚州兰开斯特这里一家电子商务公司的创始人。我很赞同你说的那一点:美国国税局没有守卫我们的边境,而是在欺凌美国公民。我们正在那么做。而我发现,作为企业主,有一个问题是,我最近一直受到美国国税局的骚扰,我发现这对创业精神造成了巨大打击,而创业精神是美国的脊梁。
埃隆·马斯克
当然。而我想知道,对于鼓励创业,以及尤其鼓励年轻人创办小企业,从而保持我们的经济、经济繁荣,并继续创造像你所创造的那些美好事物,你会向特朗普政府推荐的头号举措之一是什么?是的,嗯,我的意思是,说真的,我认为,你知道,如果我们能让政府别再压在人们身上,那么你就能,你就能完成大量工作。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,你知道,就像你亲身经历的那样,我们在方方面面都受到过度监管。然后,即使只是取得了一点点成功,政府也会出现并把钱拿走。所以这太疯狂了,你知道,所以就在。当初这个国家的缔造者如果能看到我们现在的处境,他们会震惊得头脑爆炸,你知道,当时人们反抗英国。我想当时好像是对茶叶征收 2% 的税,比如说对茶叶征收 3% 的税。
埃隆·马斯克
他们会说,绝对不行。而现在则是,你知道,40%。我的意思是,就像每天都会出现新的税种,还有很多你作为小企业主会遇到、而人们甚至不知道其存在的隐性税收。你知道,因为美国国税局会找上你,所以你算是逐渐意识到了这一点,但他们试图以某种方式对消费者掩盖的税收多得不得了。所以我们只需要一个更小的政府,并允许人们为自己的同胞生产有用的商品和提供有用的服务。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,这很直截了当。
埃隆·马斯克
你好,埃隆,我叫威尔·金。很高兴见到你。欢迎来到兰开斯特。谢谢。我是一名年轻的机械工程师,对解决新问题感到兴奋。我的梦想之一是为你的某家公司工作。所以就看看事情会如何发展吧。但我的问题是,你对关税有什么看法?你认为关税会如何影响消费者支出或推高通胀?要让美国的生产达到能够与目前外包生产相匹配的规模和效率,需要解决哪些问题?
埃隆·马斯克
比如,显然,这是。这不是什么第一性原理。这不是第一性原理。原理问题。我们能做到。但需要发生什么才能。为了让那件事。
埃隆·马斯克
那么,你对这个话题有什么看法?
埃隆·马斯克
所以我认为,你之前谈到的、你之前谈到的,是大量的政府监管和税收。嗯,税收,你知道,我不知道我们需要如何处理,但我想我很喜欢你关于用工激增和全力以赴的理念。你知道,我当时在读你的自传,另一本。或者传记。另一本传记。对。对。需要说明的是,这是一本相当不错的传记,但它不是。它其实不是我会写出来的内容。
埃隆·马斯克
对。但真正让我印象深刻的是,我读到过你想把服务器从 Twitter 搬到……是在俄勒冈州吗?嗯,是的,实际上当时有,没错,那个,有3个数据中心,但只需要2个。对。而且有人告诉我,这大概要花9个月才能……对。然后你带着你的人出现了,你就说,嘿,我们干脆像过圣诞节一样连夜把这事做完吧。所以我想,对,是平安夜。
埃隆·马斯克
对。削减、削减其中一些监管规定,以及所有这些疯狂的东西,它们会、会延长一大堆事情的时间线,这确实、确实会很有帮助,还有那种、那种值得的职业道德。我赞同你的每周工作80小时原则、工作周原则,以及那种硬核作风。这并不适合所有人。这并不适合所有人。但我觉得这个原则真的很酷,我认为我们应该把这种文化和这种心态带到每周工作40小时或50小时的制度中。
埃隆·马斯克
我每周工作50小时,但你知道,也许还得考虑工作与生活的平衡。但我很喜欢你带领这些公司的方向,看到这些真的很酷。嗯,谢谢。谢谢你。
埃隆·马斯克
好,请讲。你好,埃隆,很高兴今晚在这里见到你。最近我在 Medium 上读到一篇文章,其中一位名叫安德烈亚·罗西的意大利研究人员展示了他发明的一项新技术,这项技术能够将一辆电动汽车的续航里程延长4倍。严格来说,那是一辆四轮车,也就是一辆功率非常低的电动汽车。而在完整测试之后,它实际上延长了这辆电动汽车的电池寿命。
埃隆·马斯克
显然,你知道,我们不,这项技术只展示过1次。我们不知道这项技术能否被复制。但如果它能够被复制,你是否有兴趣把这种技术应用到你的 Tesla 车辆上,甚至可能应用到星舰上?嗯,我希望这种东西是真的,但我不认为这种东西是真的。确实有。你知道,每个行业都有一定数量的胡扯,但我认为电池行业可能是胡扯最多的行业候选者。
埃隆·马斯克
所以就是,电化学非常困难。事实上,我测试一个 AI 系统智能程度的方法之一,就是问它电池电化学问题和火箭问题,而它通常会给出糟糕透顶的答案。
埃隆·马斯克
所以提高续航里程极其困难,但现有的续航里程已经足以让地球上的一切全面电气化。
埃隆·马斯克
所以你知道,Tesla 汽车的续航里程超过300英里,其中一些大约有400英里的续航里程。实际上我们可以让它跑得更远。只不过对大多数人来说,那会是没有必要的电池容量,因为你对电池续航里程的需求,基本上和你的膀胱能撑多久差不多。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,如果你比如上午9点出发,到了中午前后,你可能会想去趟洗手间、休息一下,你知道,吃点东西,而且,你知道,所以你开3小时,也许4小时,然后给车充电。只要你从洗手间回来,而且你知道,吃完午饭或做完别的事情时,车已经充好电,那么长途旅行就没有问题。我们现在已经做到这一点了,所以。
埃隆·马斯克
对,但并不存在什么神奇的突破。
埃隆·马斯克
如果未来几年乃至不久的将来发现了其他技术,理论上能够彻底改变电动汽车、太空旅行,你知道,奇异推进、奇异能源生成技术,你是否也愿意研究这些技术,并可能为它们提供资金、为这类研究作出贡献?我确实认为外界存在很多并非真正主流、但具有潜力的技术。
埃隆·马斯克
尽管它还处于非常幼稚的阶段。我认为它有潜力。我的意思是,不只是。我的意思是,Tesla 和 SpaceX 都极其渴望任何真正有效的东西。
埃隆·马斯克
我们并不是把门堵上,我们是说,拜托,如果你有真正有效的东西,请告诉我们。遗憾的是,问题在于它真正有效的情况非常罕见。所以,你知道,有一段时间,Tesla,我想我们也许现在仍然会,就是,我们只是。我们会给任何一项,你知道,被提出的新技术按10分制评分,其中10分表示不可思议,而你知道,1分表示完完全全是胡说八道,实际上没有任何东西得分超过4分。
埃隆·马斯克
所以这、这就是非常难做到。但如果,而且我会鼓励任何人说,请证明我是错的,请这么做。我希望别人能证明我是错的。那会非常棒。
埃隆·马斯克
对,但就、就和 Tesla 竞争吧。这听起来像个很棒的。如果,你知道,如果有一种。某种技术拥有高得多的续航里程,我会强烈建议他们直接把我们打得落花流水,你知道吗?
埃隆·马斯克
对。埃隆,你是否相信耶稣基督是一个真实的人,他曾被钉上十字架并死去,又已经复活,而且上帝就是耶稣?
埃隆·马斯克
你说的真实的人是什么意思?是说他在2000年前活着,而且他就是那个被钉上十字架的人吗?
观众
好的,酷。
埃隆·马斯克
对,不,我认为有。对,我确实认为那、那是真的。对,对,对。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,你会进入这些,你知道,关于三位一体的神权政治争论之类的。但是我认为,你知道,不过对,对,我认为这是真的,所以。
埃隆·马斯克
嗨,埃隆。这么说感觉很奇怪,不过。嗨,我叫克里斯·米切尔森。我是兰开斯特县居民。我们真的很高兴你能来到这里。谢谢大家。听着,我和我们这里的许多人一样,都觉得在这次选举中,我们国家的根本建构、宪法正危在旦夕。我同意。我坚定地相信,能够挺身而出的人就应该挺身而出。我只想感谢你,感谢你作为这个建构之外极少数有权势的人之一,有胆量每天站在这里,做你正在做的事情。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
好了,这里有个硬汉。听着。特朗普总统已经宣布你,或者说已经宣布他将任命你担任效率委员会负责人。对,对。鉴于你过去在精简运营和经营利润极高的企业方面取得的成功,这显然是个非常适合你的位置。我非常担忧的一个问题,不仅仅是我们这里财政宪制的混乱,还有发生在我们国家的技术攻击。
埃隆·马斯克
2021年,Colonial Pipeline 勒索软件攻击。对。2021年,Robinhood,700万用户,数据被盗,他们的钱被扣作赎金。2023年,T-Mobile 一夜之间瘫痪。机场攻击、航空公司攻击。你有没有就你的网络安全专业知识和特朗普谈过?你会参与其中吗?如果不会,你知道谁会参与吗,你信任他们吗?我还有一个问题。嗯,我肯定,我当然没有这里所有问题的答案,我也不想触霉头,但是,比如说,没有人成功入侵过 SpaceX 或星链。
埃隆·马斯克
每天都有数千次入侵星链的尝试,但没有人成功。再说一次,我不想在这里触霉头。所以这不是在挑衅。不是在对外面的黑客团体说,请入侵星链,比如说,请不要入侵星链。但是,但是到目前为止,个人和国家行为体曾多次尝试入侵星链,没有一次成功。所以到目前为止,往绩相当不错。
埃隆·马斯克
没有人成功入侵过。对,到目前为止,一切顺利。你知道,不想自满之类的。没有人入侵过 Tesla 母舰,也就是 Tesla 核心数据库。很多人都试图入侵 Tesla 核心数据库。成功次数为0。对,我当然可以说,比如,现在政府的计算机并不是非常安全,因为那是政府,你知道,所以就像,如果你问,比如,什么东西容易入侵?
埃隆·马斯克
我会说,嗯,政府的计算机很容易入侵。
埃隆·马斯克
所以这不好。不,我同意。这就是为什么我,比如,你知道,我就像,作为一个铁杆技术人员,我认为我们不应该使用投票机,不应该使用计算机,因为它们太容易受到入侵者的。就像是容易受到入侵者的。而保护这些机器的人不懂技术,他们很容易被蒙骗。所以即便怀着最好的意图,也是如此。所以。但是,要在本人到场并出示身份证件的纸质选票上弄虚作假真的很难,显然本来就应该这样。
埃隆·马斯克
还有一件事,很快说一下。对。我们今晚谈过几次棒球。我兄弟有残疾。Ryan,我爱你。很遗憾你今晚没能来。他是白袜队球迷,他只想知道你是否会考虑买下他们,把他们变成一家有信誉的企业。谢谢。但我是个技术人员,所以我只是,你知道,我得挑选自己要打的仗。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我只是。我努力创造人们认为有用的技术。谢谢你,埃隆。
观众
谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
好了。
埃隆·马斯克
你好,埃隆。我叫 Vladimir。我是来自宾夕法尼亚州雷丁的一名企业家。我大老远来到这里见你,因为我不确定你是否会去宾夕法尼亚州雷丁。我等不及了。非常感谢你对世界作出的贡献。感谢你带来的 Tesla、Neuralink、SpaceX X。你所做的一切都令人难以置信。也感谢你挺身而出,发挥领导作用,再次尝试夺回我们的国家。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。我要问你的问题与人工智能有关。这可能是我们最伟大的发明,希望不是我们最后的发明。你确实处于。你确实一直主张,基本上要监管我们在人工智能方面取得的进展。你认为还要多久,我们才能真正实现 AGI,也就是通用人工智能,以及人工超级智能?你是否仍然赞成监管这个被我们召唤到这里的惊人发明?
埃隆·马斯克
是的。我的意思是,我确实认为应该对人工智能实施一些监管监督。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,对,我的意思是,我有点把监管者视为体育比赛中的裁判。你知道,如果你。不管是棒球、篮球还是任何项目、任何一种运动,所有队伍都希望有裁判,这样,你知道,各队就不会违反规则,比赛也会公平。所以我认为那里。任何特定行业都有某种适当数量的监管者,但不应该。不应该太多或太少。
埃隆·马斯克
目前人工智能领域基本上没有监管者。所以这就像一场没有裁判的比赛。那。那就是,你知道,容易发生坏事。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我的建议是设立。对,在联邦层面设立一个人工智能监管机构。它应该,你知道,不采取强硬手段。它应该是。但是不能什么都没有,相较之下,其他行业存在过度监管,因为这些监管机构随着时间推移就这样不断扩张,以至于场上的裁判太多了。我认为这个体育类比很有道理。
埃隆·马斯克
比如,你希望有足够多的裁判来保证比赛公平,但不能多到人们在橄榄球场上传球时都会撞到裁判。你知道,这就是我们现在的处境。就像你正试图沿场地向前跑。砰。你到处都会撞上裁判。所以就是这样。你知道,我们必须在那里采取一些纠正措施。
埃隆·马斯克
所以谢谢你。
埃隆·马斯克
好了。埃隆·马斯克。很荣幸见到你。这应该由 Dr. Scholz 赞助。我不知道你的脚现在是怎么撑住的。我只想感谢你今晚来到这里。能和你一起站在这里是我的荣幸。实际上,我已经等了将近10年,想和你交谈并问你几个问题。好了,第1个,我想直接进入正题。我的一位朋友正在建造世界上全世界最明亮的灯,完全由可再生能源和 Tesla 太阳能电池板供电。
埃隆·马斯克
我们想知道你是否愿意替我们把它打开。它已经获准了。
观众
它在得克萨斯州。
埃隆·马斯克
美国联邦航空管理局批准了。你愿意替我们把它打开吗?有可能,也许吧。好吧,当你说最明亮的灯时,比如,你是什么意思?比卢克索的灯还亮?它的光会照到国际空间站,你可以在夜间把空间站照亮。好吧。是的。对。它也能照亮整个大峡谷。工程师是这么说的。好吧。这灯可真厉害。好吧。它用的也是 Tesla 太阳能电池板,所以。好吧,很棒。听起来不错。
埃隆·马斯克
其次,今晚我们听到了很多祈祷。我只想快速为你祈祷一下,并请大家和我一起,把你们的手举起来,让我们祈求上帝保护这里的这个人。他正在为这个国家里他所信任的人们拿自己的生命、家庭和未来冒险。我们也相信你,埃隆。
观众
还有,谢谢你。
埃隆·马斯克
感谢你所做的一切。我们祈求上帝保护你,在你保护身处我们国家的我们的旅程中保你平安。谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
好的,那么我的问题,我真正的问题是,你已经做了非常多的事情。你真的让人类能够生活在群星之间。好吧,还没有,但我们快了,我们正在接近。
观众
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我可以,我想一整天都和你钻研这个。NASA一直,你知道,被宣称恒星的燃料是氢。我知道,我知道,在你干掉我之前,你不是氢能的超级拥护者,我也明白它有缺陷,但我们确实取得了一些令人难以置信的成功。我的问题是问你的。如果我能够帮助你,为你提供合适的人员和资源,你愿不愿意基本上参与到我们当中,帮助拯救我们的星球?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我确实有17份工作,再加上受治理效率部,就是18份。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我必须谨慎承担额外的责任,因为从身体上来说,这根本不可能。
埃隆·马斯克
不过,是的,我是说,迄今为止最大的能源来源是太阳。所以在能量输出方面,没有任何东西能接近太阳。太阳每秒将超过400万吨质量转化为能量,而且它已经这样做了非常长的时间,并将在未来很多、很多个10亿年里继续这样做。因此,你可以用卡尔达肖夫等级来思考任何特定文明的进步。简单来说,如果你利用了一个行星的全部能量,你就是卡尔达肖夫1级。
埃隆·马斯克
如果你利用了一个太阳系的全部能量,你就是2级;如果你利用了一个星系的能量,你就是3级。可以肯定地说,我们距离3级非常遥远,但即使距离1级。
埃隆·马斯克
所以当你用卡尔达肖夫等级来思考时,就会变得非常明显:太阳以压倒性优势成为能源来源,其他一切都是小土豆。小、小、小土豆。不过嘿,小土豆目前也没问题,但是,但是太阳以压倒性优势成为那个大土豆,那个巨大的土豆。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,真正能够带领我们走向群星的,是利用太阳的能量。
埃隆·马斯克
你好,埃隆,我是来自兰开斯特县的戴夫。首先,非常感谢你今晚分享的所有见解。发人深省的对话,2个问题,1,在距离选举略多于9天之际,你会推荐怎样一个30秒的说辞,来说服某个人不要相信他们在CBS、NBC和ABC上看到的东西?哦,我对此有一个很棒的解决办法,那就是把X平台上的视频和信息链接发给他们。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,如果他们说,你知道,比如特朗普喜欢纳粹,那就说,嗯,其实这里有完整的演讲,他在演讲中明确谴责了纳粹。然而民主党人却一直声称他喜欢纳粹,尽管他明确说过,他以最强烈的措辞谴责他们,他们仍在延续“好人”骗局。你知道,这相当疯狂。所以,无论有人说特朗普是这个还是那个,只要把实际的演讲发给他们。
埃隆·马斯克
那就是解药。把他实际说过的话发给他们。谢谢。然后第二部分,X 平台实际上有那些内容。所以,你知道,那是最好的办法。
埃隆·马斯克
嘿,埃隆。你在宾夕法尼亚大学的老同学约翰·斯科特向你问好。好的,酷。感谢你星期三那场精彩的财报电话会议。不客气。我叫拉斐尔·阿齐兹。我是一名来自埃及亚历山大港的科普特正教基督徒移民。我以前经历过宗教迫害,我认为自由派和觉醒运动就是一种宗教迫害。今天,它反基督教,而且老实说,也反宗教。你曾在 X 上发帖说,除非有更多人勇敢地站出来捍卫公平与正义,否则基督教将会消亡。
埃隆·马斯克
我问你的问题,埃隆·马斯克,非常简单。你是否会与科普特基督徒社群、我们的兄弟姐妹、天主教徒和基督徒,以及新教福音派站在一起,反对那个正试图摧毁美国基督教和宗教的自由派运动?是的,我的意思是,我反对觉醒派。宗教从根本上说是一种极端的灭绝主义信仰体系。它是一种灭绝主义信仰体系。而我认为我们想成为扩张主义者。
埃隆·马斯克
我们想向群星扩张。我们想作为一个文明发展壮大。我们不想灭绝。所以,是的,我绝对支持科普特基督徒,而且,像是,我的意思是,实际上,任何属于扩张主义者、相信未来会比过去更好、相信我们会在未来发展壮大的人,我都极其支持。所以。好了。
埃隆·马斯克
嗨,埃隆,我是杰里米,我来自地球,更具体地说,是鲍曼斯维尔。但我的问题是,地址:1个天文单位。你能谈谈你的决定、决策过程和世界观吗?我的意思是,我非常敬佩你迄今为止取得的成就,而且对于你想实现的目标,你有一个宏大的愿景。所以,然而。通过这种方式,你作为相关领域专家的领域与政治之间存在交叉。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,如果你能谈谈你在自己的世界观中是如何做决定的,那就能让我们所有人在更多问题上信任你。
埃隆·马斯克
当然。嗯,你知道,我非常相信物理学,你知道,这就像,基本上,如果你愿意,我的意思是,我大概会这样说,你知道,其他一切几乎都只是建议。但物理学是定律。比如,如果你违反物理学,你就会,它不会。火箭会爆炸,汽车会无法运行。所以,要制造能够运行的汽车、制造能够运行的石头,以及制造能够运行的太空互联网,你就必须遵守物理学。
埃隆·马斯克
因为如果你错了,那么现实会是一个非常严厉的裁判。现实毫不留情。如果你制造了一个无法运行、违反物理学的设备,它就是无法运行。然后你会想,火箭爆炸了,卫星无法运行,汽车也坏了。所以你要么,如果你制造技术,你要么有一种严谨的。
埃隆·马斯克
你必须。为了让技术发挥作用,你必须极其严谨地追求真相,因为否则现实会狠狠地反咬你一口。是的。所以。好了。
埃隆·马斯克
嗨,埃隆,感谢你今天抽时间与我们在一起。我叫贾斯汀·亨森,也是兰开斯特县本地人。我们这一代正在接手住房短缺的问题,而且从统计上看,我们从事蓝领工作的可能性更低。显然,出生率下降的问题已经讨论过了。甚至不会有那么多人去填补蓝领岗位。对于我们国家目前在价格方面面临的住房危机,你认为解决方案是什么?
埃隆·马斯克
看起来我们这一代正因价格而买不起房,但同时也要平衡目前拥有住房者所持有的房屋净值,而且显然也不希望破坏它。你认为这个问题有什么解决办法?嗯,我的意思是,冒着重复的风险,我认为监管正在扼杀进步。监管规定太多了,如果不拿到无数个许可证,你甚至连改造厨房,或者,你知道,给房子加一个、加点什么都做不到。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,如果我们能,如果我们减少监管,就能降低新房的成本。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,我的意思是,这,这,你知道,如果,我知道现场有很多小企业主和建筑商,还有,还有正在收听的人,而任何尝试过建造东西的人,无论是,你知道,盖房子还是做任何事情、创办企业,都会意识到政府造成的负担有多么沉重。它非常巨大。
埃隆·马斯克
而且既有州政府的负担,也有联邦政府的负担。但至少我们能对联邦政府的负担采取一些行动。然后,你知道,那就是,你知道,至少我们不必有大约 400 个以及不管到底多少个机构。这太疯狂了。你知道,比如,我想知道这里是否有。我敢打赌,没有任何一名国会议员能说出 200 个机构的名字。否则我会很惊讶。
埃隆·马斯克
那么我们需要多少个机构,99 个?听起来很多。听起来完全足以顾及各个方面了。无论如何,我们需要顾及多少个方面?那是 99 比索。听起来很多。
埃隆·马斯克
所以不管怎样,我认为,只要让政府越过人民的背,生活质量、住房成本以及其他一切就会得到很大改善。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
埃隆,最近怎么样?大佬?嘿,最近怎么样?
埃隆·马斯克
很高兴见到你。我叫内森。我来自哥伦比亚。总之,我想问的是,成为世界上最富有的人是什么感觉?还有,我能很快和你合张影吗?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我们现在正在上电视,所以我想。我想实际上我们俩现在都在直播。实际上,我想可能有数百万人在看。所以。是的,我想实际上会有数百万人看到我们。我们现在出现在数百万人的屏幕上。
埃隆·马斯克
至于。是什么感觉?我的意思是,这有点奇怪,因为我想,比如,我仍然很像一个技术专家,就像,你知道,我只是工作很多,你知道,然后我的休闲活动就是和朋友、家人待在一起,以及玩电子游戏。也就是。是的,没错。我玩电子游戏。《暗黑破坏神》或其他电子游戏。所以,你知道,就像我没有。我没有任何游艇、度假住宅或其他什么。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我想,如果我要过一种更享乐主义的生活,而且,你知道,拥有游艇和岛屿之类的东西,那么那样会更……我不知道,也许那样会更……我不知道。但那不是我心目中的乐趣,因为我喜欢,我就像,你知道,我坐着。如果我去坐在海滩上,那我就会想,现在这很无聊。我现在该做什么?你知道吗?所以我就是喜欢造东西,我喜欢富有成效、做有用的事情、制造很酷的产品,差不多就是这样。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,我也确实喜欢和朋友、家人之类的人待在一起。但是,你知道,我不会想着怎样才能造一艘更大的游艇之类的。我没有船或任何类似的东西。所以我当然仍然爱你。是的,我当然仍然喜欢它。是的,你说得对。我确实有船。你说这个干什么?是的,有一艘船。SpaceX 有这些供火箭降落在上面的船,你知道。
埃隆·马斯克
所以严格来说,我想我确实拥有船只。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我收回刚才的话。谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,也许我应该,比如,坐其中一艘出去航行一圈什么的。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。好吧。
埃隆·马斯克
你好,埃隆。我叫布鲁斯。我是宾夕法尼亚州这里的一名选民,能见到你真的、确实是我的荣幸。你一直是我、我的家人以及我所有朋友非常强大的精神鼓舞。所以愿上帝为此保佑你。谢谢。我现在有一个关于拉丁美洲的问题。显然,你见过萨尔瓦多总统纳伊布·卡莱布,他做得非常出色。他确实如此。他是个非常聪明的人。哦,当然,当然。
埃隆·马斯克
就像,这就像,你知道,我们就许多话题进行了一次长谈,我想。是的,他真的是个非常敏锐的人。当然。那么,接着这一点,在特朗普的第2届政府中,你会主张采取什么措施?以激励墨西哥、厄瓜多尔等国家加强其治安和经济机会方面的政策,从而遏制涌向美国南部边境的非法移民浪潮?谢谢。是的,嗯,我的意思是,如果那些国家繁荣起来,那么我认为,迫使人们进行合法移民的驱动因素显然会减少。
埃隆·马斯克
这相当艰难。
埃隆·马斯克
而且其中有一些教训值得汲取。比如,查韦斯在委内瑞拉上台时,他最先做的事情之一就是夺走民众的枪支。所以他基本上以安全为名,禁止了私人持有枪支。
埃隆·马斯克
然后马杜罗最近举行选举时,他以压倒性差距落败,却直接无视了选举。民众举行抗议,然后遭到枪击。他们无法保护自己。这就是为什么你需要《第二修正案》。这是一件至关重要的事情。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为,值得审视一下美国的政策,看看这些政策中哪些实际上在帮助其他国家,而且我们向各个国家输送了很多资金。但我就想,这有什么用吗?我不知道。我认为我们应该彻底审查一下,比如,你知道,我们的行动是否真的帮助了这些国家,还有,我们为什么又要把我们的钱送给他们?还有美国人民,比如,我们在把人们缴纳的税款送给其他国家?
埃隆·马斯克
这真的合理吗?比如,我们真的。这样做有好处吗?
埃隆·马斯克
这能向美国公众作出合理解释吗,还是不能?如果不能,那么我认为我们或许应该停止输送资金,或者少送一些。
Elon Musk
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Elon Musk
It,
Audience
Sam it.
Elon Musk
Welcome.
Elon Musk
Usa. Usa.
Audience
All right.
Elon Musk
Wow.
Elon Musk
I love it.
Elon Musk
It's an honor to be here talking to everyone here and everyone out there.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, I'm.
Elon Musk
Before I.
Elon Musk
Actually, what I want to emphasize before anything else is, as the sign says, vote early and vote now.
Elon Musk
So you can actually, I looked at the numbers. As of Yesterday, there's still 40,000 absentee ballots that have been mailed out just in the surrounding counties, just in the nearby area that have not been.
Elon Musk
That have not been handed in. So if you have any friends, family, or anyone you know who has an absentee ballot, just hound them relentlessly until they hand it in. Because if they don't hand it in, then the vote doesn't count. It's pretty straightforward. So, yeah, there's 40,000 absentee ballots that really need to be handed in just in this area. So please, you know, talk to friends and family. Don't get a vote. The other thing is that anyone in Pennsylvania can go to the county office on Monday and Tuesday and request a ballot and immediately there, hand it in.
Elon Musk
So I think probably a lot of people are not aware that you can actually do this. You don't even need to mail it. It's kind of weird because it's like called an absentee ballot. But you're like, right there, clearly not absent.
Elon Musk
Can I have an absentee ballot? But you're here. Yes. As strange as that sounds, you can literally go in, request an absentee ballot, and even though you're right there, you can hand it in.
Elon Musk
And you did this morning. Great.
Elon Musk
And I think maybe some county offices are open on the weekend, but they're definitely open on Monday and Tuesday. And then to add another strange twist, they close on Wednesday. So they're like, now what? So you have until just Monday and Tuesday in Pennsylvania to go into the county office, request a ballot, and you can hand it in right there. It doesn't even need to even go in the mail or anything.
Elon Musk
And that's the best way to do it.
Elon Musk
You can use the mail, but you can just do it right in person. And then for some reason on Wednesday, you cannot do it anymore until November 5th. So that's high urgency for Monday and Tuesday. Big deal.
Elon Musk
So.
Elon Musk
And this, this is, you know, this is an election that I think, frankly is. Is a folk in the road of destiny, you know, it really is. So, you know, it's. Yeah, it's. It's. It's. It's essential. So, you know, it's like, we need safe cities, secure borders, you know, sensible spending. I mean, basic stuff, you know, and. And we need to get rid of, like, the. The.
Elon Musk
Well, yeah, but I mean, it's like, I always feel like it's bad to, like, attack Kamala because he's just a puppet, you know, but it's just, you know, it's just a machine. It's just like this big government machine, and there's a puppet, and it's like, no point in attacking the puppet. It's just, you know, it's like I was like, you know, I made a joke that was sort of misconstrued, that it was like, nobody even bothered us to try to kill Kamala.
Elon Musk
That's pointless.
Audience
Why?
Elon Musk
Let's get another puppet. So everyone does. Nobody even bothers. Nobody's even. Nobody's even tried to kill Biden.
Elon Musk
It's like, doesn't that seem odd? They're trying to kill Trump twice.
Elon Musk
Yeah, exactly. I mean, listen, if somebody's already dead, what's the point of trying to kill him? So, you know, he's one foot and four toes in the grave. I mean, I saw A Weekend at Bernie's, and honestly, the corpse had more life than Biden, like, for sure, actually. So, you know, who's even running the country? Like, like, like, like, who's in charge? I just. It's confusing.
Elon Musk
Trump. Sure, he will be, hopefully. But I just sort of wonder, like, clearly Biden is not Compass Mantis, so who is actually in charge?
Elon Musk
The machine, I think it's just. It's just like the big government machine basically is what's in charge.
Elon Musk
But it's bizarre, you know, so, yeah, I mean, obviously with Trump, the great thing is that we have a real individual who is not beholden to anyone, and that's what scares the machine. And that's why the machine is trying to kill him. Yeah. So, Yeah, wild times, man. Wild times.
Elon Musk
I mean, I've had quite a few friends call me and say, have you? You should definitely improve your security. I'm like, that's probably a good idea. I'm like, they're like, they're definitely going to try to kill you. I'm like, yeah, that's a good chance they might try to do that. Yeah, so, yeah, exactly. If they shoot, they better not miss.
Elon Musk
So I'll find out who was behind him, not just who the gunman was.
Elon Musk
So.
Elon Musk
But it is crazy to think that, you know, we have a presidential candidate who. That they've tried to kill twice in recent months, and they try to get them with lawfare. Six ways to Sunday to try to prevent people from, from actually voting in a democratic way. It's outrageous, really. What are they, you know, what are they afraid of?
Elon Musk
So, yeah, I think it's kind of the truth and I'd certainly encourage people. If people haven't seen the conversation between Joe Rogan and Donald Trump, that was super cool. I mean, I think for a lot of people it's like, you know, how do you know, how do you understand somebody like, and what they're about?
Elon Musk
You know, like the sort of far left press has been going on and on about how like Trump is like Hitler, like Mussolini and Stalin combined and you rolled them all into one and he's somehow worse than all three of them combined. These are people who have killed tens of millions of people. I'm like, something's wrong with the press, guys. You know, something is wrong with the press.
Elon Musk
Journalism is dead. Like, what the heck is going on? It's bizarre.
Elon Musk
Yeah, actually, exactly. It's like, I mean, I do think like that old school journalism, I call it legacy media because it is kind of legacy media because it is from a time when in order to learn any news, you had to aggregate the news to some central publication and then some editor would decide what people should hear and then they would print the newspaper with like a lot of paper, literally, and then distribute that paper.
Elon Musk
And that's how you learn things. But you obviously don't need that anymore. You've got the Internet so anyone can learn anything at any time. Yeah, that's why X is future.
Elon Musk
It's citizen journalism where you hear from the people, it's by the people, for the people. That's what it's all about.
Elon Musk
I think this is a super, super big deal and it's, and it's absolutely fundamental and transformative that the people actually get to decide the news and the narrative and what matters.
Elon Musk
Because the legacy media is basically controlled by a handful of editors in chief. That's it. They decide what's going to get published. That's why I really encourage everyone out there to write stuff on the X platform and other platforms too. But citizen journalism is the future, you know, and that's where you get to hear from actual experts in the field, people who are experts in any given industry, and you get to hear the rebuttal.
Elon Musk
So if somebody says something that's wrong or requires more context, people can add that X has got community notes, which is great, you know, so community notes, I think is got a very good batting average. It's not perfect, but it's Got a very good batting average and many times I've gotten requests like, can we get rid of this community note? I'm like, no, we cannot.
Elon Musk
Not even a community note on myself. So with community notes, all the code is open source, all the data is open source. So you can recreate any given community note independently. And that transparency is how you know that it's true and it's real and it's honest.
Elon Musk
So that's, that's, yeah, but, and I think we've got, you know, besides man, the mic feedback's getting a little crazy.
Elon Musk
So maybe I should, should I go further back or further forward? Well, there's an X on the floor, I guess. I'm guessing that's where I should stand. Okay, yeah. All right.
Elon Musk
All right. Yeah. So yeah, the rock ship was pretty cool. That was an amazing thing. So, Yeah, the SpaceX team is an incredible team. And it's wild that this giant 250 ton object went to space, came back and was caught by giant Mechazilla arms. It's like, you know, it's super cool. That's the kind of thing that, you know, that I think is inspiring and exciting and you know, there's a lot of potential. I think we, we can actually build a permanently occupied science base on the moon.
Elon Musk
We can build a study on Mars. We can be a multi planet species and out there among the stars, it's very exciting. You know, so.
Elon Musk
I'm wearing this jacket that was given to me by the space force. You know, it's got Star Trek Enterprise on it. You know, it's like Starfleet Academy. We want to make Starfleet Academy real, you know, and go out there and visit other star systems eventually and see if there are alien civilizations. Maybe they're alien civilizations that existed for millions of years and we just find the, you know, the ruins of many long dead alien civilizations.
Elon Musk
I don't know. Well, they might be very interesting to
Audience
see
Elon Musk
because at least according to physics, the universe is 13.8 billion years old and Earth is about four and a half billion years old. So even if you just increment the time counter by a million years, you have to go three digits past decimal place to go bloop, a million years. And the oldest writing that we've discovered in archaeology is only 5,500 years old. Only that's nothing. That's a millionth of Earth's existence.
Elon Musk
It was the first writing. And you really have to hand it to the ancient Sumerians, by the way. They got a lot of firsts Those ancient Sumerians, they're really knocking out of the park frankly, you know, with the clay tablets and everything. Thankfully they wrote in clay tablets. It was quite helpful.
Elon Musk
I mean they've even discovered like schoolwork, like where they teach the kids cuneiform on clay tablets. And then there's the teacher correcting the cuneiform in red ink.
Elon Musk
It's been going on for a while.
Elon Musk
So here we are, a mere 5,500 year old civilization, just a baby really, but with a lot of potential. I think we, you know, we can go out there, we can make life multi planetary, understand the universe, find out what's going on. Maybe the aliens will come visit us. Maybe they are here right now, I don't know.
Elon Musk
So, alien registration card.
Elon Musk
So you know, people do ask me like, do I think aliens are amongst. I'm like, I haven't seen any.
Elon Musk
Yeah, there's illegal aliens, but there's a lot of those. But I haven't seen any like sort of green aliens with antennas on their head or anything like that. And maybe they are, they're just very subtle, but I haven't seen them. So.
Elon Musk
But I think we want to be kind of, we want to be the aliens exploring other galaxies, you know. And you know, I grew up watching Star Trek and Star wars was the first movie that I ever saw in a theater and it obviously affected me a lot. And we just want to have these sort of glorious, amazing, I don't know, space future real, you know, and have exciting, inspiring things that make you glad to wake up. When you wake up in the morning, you're glad to be alive.
Elon Musk
They have to be these things, you know, life cannot. Yeah, So yeah, well, I think we can. So that you can travel to Mars roughly every two years. So every 26 months the planets align and you can travel from Earth to Mars. And we're actually at a planetary alignment moment right now in the next few months. And so in roughly two years there will be another planetary alignment and that's when we intend to send the first starship rockets to Mars.
Elon Musk
So that's, I think we can probably send quite a few in two years. And then if those land successfully and we do not increment the crater count in Mars, crater count before and after equals the same, then we can send people. In four years we will be illegal aliens on Mars. You know, I guess if there's any, you know, any Martians, maybe they'll make Mars great again. Yeah, you know, Mars did have oceans a long time ago, it seems like.
Elon Musk
Yeah, like When Mars was a lot hotter, it had what appears to be liquid oceans. And if you warmed Mars up, it'll have an Ocean on about 40% of the Earth's of Mars surface. So Mars would be about have an ocean I think almost like a mile deep on 40% of the surface if you just warmed it up. So there's a ton of a massive amount of frozen ice on Mars. So yeah, it is kind of making Mars great again because you can warm it up and it can be an Earth like planet.
Elon Musk
So I think this is actually very important for the long term.
Elon Musk
The longevity of consciousness is to be a multi planet species. It's actually very important so because there's always some chance that something could happen on Earth that's either, you know, a man made disaster or a natural disaster like the, you know, the meteor that killed the dinosaurs. I mean there have been many mass extinction events in Earth's history and there will be mass extinction events, yet there is a de facto mass extinction event of humans actually the birth rate is plummeting, so.
Elon Musk
But the probable lifespan of civilization will be much greater if we are a multi planet species than if we are a single planet species. We don't want to be one of those lame one planet civilizations is what I'm saying.
Elon Musk
So we want to be a multi planet civilization and I'm not talking about like a lot of resources, like I don't know, 1% of our resources. Seems like a wise move to be a multi planet species and kind of just ultimately find out what's going on, like visit other star systems. And I think one day Mars may actually play a role similar to the role that America has played in saving the world. You know, America saved the world three times last century.
Elon Musk
That's a big deal. World War I, 2 and the Cold War.
Elon Musk
So.
Elon Musk
Earth would be very different if not for America saving the day three times last century.
Elon Musk
Yeah, Amen indeed. So, so I think in the future, Mars, they used to call America the new world and Mars would be the new new world, but actually, you know, planet.
Elon Musk
So I think one day Mars may save Earth just as America saved the rest of the world. I think that's a big.
Elon Musk
Yeah, as you can tell, I love space and rockets in case that wasn't obvious.
Elon Musk
So let's see, we can go right into questions and just sort of have it. It's always good to have like get the discussion going with people. So the lights are very bright in my eyes, so I can hardly, I can't see what's going on.
Elon Musk
There's two big lines. Okay, great.
Elon Musk
Well, let's see, how should we start?
Elon Musk
Okay, go ahead.
Elon Musk
Okay, sure.
Audience
Hi, Elon. My name is Ashley and I'm from Lancaster county and I have a 7 year old son named Daniel. And he made me promise that if I got to talk to you, I had to tell you that he thinks that the cybertruck is the thing. Coolest, coolest thing that has ever been invented. So he owes me one now for telling you that. But so my question centers around higher education. So I'm going to age myself a little bit. But 20 years ago when I graduated high school, I made the decision not to go to college and just to enter in the workforce.
Audience
And it worked really well for me, but I did get a lot of slack from it, from people that thought that that was kind of crazy. And now I've seen, you know, the attitude toward higher education kind of changing and that not being the only model that we have. So my question's sort of twofold here. So when it comes to like my children who, you know, will eventually be needing to make that decision, you know, what decision or what, what advice would you give in comparison to like a trade school, higher education, or just entering the workforce?
Audience
And from an employer standpoint, in 10 to 15 years, what do you think employers are going to be looking for from this next generation that will be entering the workforce?
Elon Musk
Sure. Well, I do think that probably too often people do do a university or college thing for four years and it's unnecessary.
Elon Musk
And then they accrue a lot of debt and it's hard to pay off the debt. And they often don't learn skills that are very useful. So it's not, you know, I think we should really reconsider whether going to college actually makes sense. I think it doesn't always. So you know what I think. And people also forget, like, what's the point of going to school in general? You're supposed to learn useful things, you know, improve your understanding of the world and, and learn skills that can help you contribute to your fellow human beings.
Elon Musk
But very often a university does the opposite. In fact, it will propagandize kids and not teach them anything useful and just saddle them with a lot of debt. So I think what really matters is are you doing something useful to help your fellow human beings? Are you contributing more than you take? And if you are, that's a great thing.
Elon Musk
Now we are headed into a pretty wild future here with artificial intelligence and robotics, I think, especially if you look, say like 10 years from now, or more that we're going to have, the world is going to look very different.
Elon Musk
I think it's like 80% likely to be good, you know, like the glass is 80% full, you know, and most likely we'll have, I think we'll probably have a situation which is universal high income, actually not universal basic income, but universal high income. And there will be no shortage of goods and services. That is what I think is most likely to occur.
Elon Musk
And we need to make sure that this AI is and these robots are on the side of humanity. You know, obviously, you know, James Cameron made a movie, made a couple movies about that.
Elon Musk
You know, you got to watch what you program these robots to do.
Elon Musk
And you know, the example I've used a few times is, you know, when Google Gemini came out, people asked, well, which one's worse, misgendering Caitlyn Jenner or Global thermonuclear War? And said, well, Ms. Gender, Caitlyn Jenner is worse. It's like we've got a problem with this AI.
Elon Musk
And even Caitlyn Jenner said, yeah, you should definitely miss Jenner me. That's crazy.
Elon Musk
So, you know, we don't want to have an AI. That's. That concludes that the best way to avoid misgendering is to execute all humans, therefore reducing the probability of misgendering to zero because there are no humans.
Elon Musk
That's the kind of crazy stuff that could potentially happen that we want to avoid. Which is why I think we want to have a maximum truth seeking AI.
Elon Musk
It's got to be based in a good way and just be an honest and truthful and forthright AI. That's the best path to safety for artificial intelligence.
Audience
Hi Elon, I'm Christine. I'm from Lancaster County. I want to extend a heartfelt welcome from all of us in Lancaster County.
Elon Musk
Thank you.
Audience
Thank you for all that you do. My question surrounds government and efficiency. What would be your plan to make government more efficient?
Elon Musk
Yeah, well, so I think the first of all, in terms of people sometimes ask, where would you start with government efficiency? And it's kind of like being in a room where the entire room is targets and so you can shoot in any direction and not miss.
Elon Musk
It's like impossible to miss because every direction is a target. So no missed possibility. Now we do have a fundamental issue, which is that the government is spending far, far more than it brings in. And the reality is that all government spending is actually taxation. All government spending is taxation. Sometimes people think some of it is taxation and some of it's not. But it's all taxation because the part that is not covered by tax revenue becomes inflation.
Elon Musk
So you're either taxed directly or you're taxed by inflation, but you are for sure taxed.
Elon Musk
And so all government spending is taxation. So we have to reduce government spending overall. This will be forced upon us in the future because already just the interest payments on the debt are 23% of all federal tax revenue. Just the interest payments. The interest payments now exceed the Defense Department budget, which is a trillion dollars a year. That's a lot of money. So just the interest on the debt exceeds what we spend on the military.
Elon Musk
Just the interest. And that is rising rapidly. So it can't be like, you know, we'll trim a little bit here and there. That's not going to work. They have to be quite radical reductions in cost. Yeah.
Elon Musk
And I think we just need to be, you know, if, you know, Please, Lord. Problems. The, you know, and the Department of Government Efficiency happens. We're going to be very open and transparent and be very clear about this is what we're doing. Here are the issues.
Elon Musk
This is the math for what's being spent and what, you know, and we're going to make it. We're going to make the spending lower. If somebody's got a better idea for how to make the spending lower, tell us. But if we don't, we're going to bankrupt the country. And so we got to do something. And it's got to be like, some pretty big moves. Drain the swamp. Yeah, I'd say, like, drain the swamps. This is like a. There's so many swamps.
Elon Musk
It's like, you know, there's so many swamps. There's. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just nutty that, like, there was a massive increase in IRS personnel. And instead of adding people to the Border Patrol, like, this is totally backwards. It's like, you can continue to remain a federal employee, but you have to go guard the border. That's your new job.
Elon Musk
You know, it's like, why are we spending money and applying resources to oppress the American people while rolling out a red carpet for illegals? It doesn't make any sense. So.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, it would have to be pretty big. I mean, there's. I actually have tried Googling it, and I've asked all the AIs, how many. How many government agencies are there? And even the government doesn't know. Okay. And the AIs don't know. They're like, well, it's about 450, but maybe it's 420. I'm like, 420, no kidding.
Elon Musk
That's a lot of agencies. Just at the federal level. I mean, like, if you sort of stand back and say, okay, just for a second, like, let's say we're starting the country again, how many agencies do we need? Do we need more than 99? Because that's. 99 is a lot of agencies. You know, like, that's, that's still a lot. You know, if you said, like, does any. How many people even know at 99 agencies?
Elon Musk
I'd say practically no one knows. 99 knows the names of 99 agencies, let alone the 420 or whatever there are.
Elon Musk
Yeah. So we have to unwind the situation.
Elon Musk
And I think. Well, I think we're going to do it and it's going to unleash a new era of prosperity because people don't even realize how much they're getting held back by millions of federal regulations. Millions, literally.
Elon Musk
And if it turns out that we accidentally got rid of a good regulation, we'll just put it back. Is that easy?
Elon Musk
Hey, Elon, I'm Dan from Pennsylvania as well. I am a teacher, public school teacher, and I just bought a Tesla this year and it's been amazing for my one hour commute.
Audience
Great.
Elon Musk
So thank you about that. Cool. Additionally, self driving. Yes. Oh my gosh. It blows. Like when I go into the teacher parking lot and I just tried to summon today, like, yeah, everybody's galls hit the floor. Yeah. It's wild. Yeah. So Republicans need to get out the vote. And as the mail in balloting becomes more common, what can I tell my friends about the safety and security of mail in ballots? Yeah. This election and future elections.
Elon Musk
And then real quick, also, My daughter is 2. Her name is Isabella. She loves the planets and loves astronomy already. And I want to know what I can, as a teacher do to help inspire her curiosity for the heavens, the stars.
Elon Musk
Sure. Well, let's see. With respect to voting, voting integrity, I think probably the best thing to do is to hand it in in person. But you can also mail it in and you can check to see whether your ballot has been received. So it is possible to check online or in person to see if your ballot has been received. But I would encourage people to vote early because what can happen is that November 5th comes around and there's like, you got something critical at work or there's a family emergency or, you know.
Elon Musk
Yeah. Some mysterious cyber security event that you never know might happen.
Elon Musk
So, you know, anything can crop up on November 5, whether it's personal or some, you know, there could be some other. Some other issue. So it is best to vote early. Now, it is very encouraging to see the early vote numbers, because if you compare the early vote numbers this year to 2020, there's about a. I think the last numbers I saw, it's like a 2 to 300,000 voter difference from 2020. That's a huge. That's major because I think it was like an 80,000 vote threshold last time.
Elon Musk
So Biden won ish by.
Elon Musk
80,000 votes.
Elon Musk
That was the number that was reported.
Elon Musk
But the interesting thing is that the Delta early votes is now 200, I think maybe approaching 250 or even 300,000 better than 2020, which is far in excess of the margin of 2020. So Pennsylvania is trending in the right direction. It's very encouraging, But there's still a lot of work to do, and we don't want to be complacent. So definitely get everyone, you know to vote. And as mentioned earlier, people can actually go in person on Monday and Tuesday if they're concerned about putting anything in the mail.
Elon Musk
And they can actually get their ballot. Like, even if they don't have their ballot, they can literally go to the county office, get the ballot even though it says absentee, and then hand it in even though you're not absent. It's weird, but it works. But it stops working on Wednesday, and then the next opportunity is November 5th. So it's kind of quirky, but those are the current rules. And then, let's see, with respect to your daughter.
Elon Musk
And, you know, I think in order to inspire, like, kids are inspired by real amazing imagery. Like, they see something amazing. They see a rocket taking off, a rocket landing, or, you know, robots walking around, or like, cool things like the stuff that you see in sci fi movies. And when they see stuff like that, they're inspired automatically. They're inspired because it's. Because there are real advancements in technology, and that's, you know, that's what inspires kids, because it should.
Elon Musk
Kids are a great filter for what's awesome. You can tell if a little kid reacts, like, wow, that's amazing. That's real.
Elon Musk
So kids love the savage rock and they love rockets, you know, and that's because. And they have no filter. They just say what. They immediately say what they think, you know, so, yeah, so it's. It's great new rocket technology that allows us to, like I said, go there and be. Have a permanent science station on the moon, you know, not Just like it's great that we're into the moon 50 plus years ago, but we want to go to the moon and actually have a science base.
Elon Musk
Like we've got a science base in Antarctica. Well, we should have a science base on the moon and we should be building a city on Mars. And I actually think it's the long term future of civilization, I think could be decided by whether or not we build a self sustaining city on Mars. And if we do that is to say that would have millions of people and it would be like if anybody wants to go to Mars, they could. And that would be an incredibly exciting, inspiring thing to aspire to, go to Mars.
Elon Musk
You're like, wow, let's make that real. Let's bring her to Mars. Yes, let's bring her to Mars. Yeah, if she thinks like, wow, one day I could go to Mars, you know, and be one of the Martians and that would be super awesome I think, you know, it's wild. It takes six months actually when you go from Earth to Mars. You're just traveling across this void of nothingness for hundreds of millions of miles until eventually you reach another planet.
Elon Musk
It's kind of incredible to think that that's even possible. But how amazing would that be, you know, like, wow, we want to have a future where life is multi planetary, where we're advancing rocket technology and like I said, where Star Trek Starfleet Academy is real and that's what will inspire your daughter. Thank you. All right.
Audience
Hi, Elon, My name is Lauren from Pennsylvania. Thank you for being here. Thank you for everything you're doing and congratulations with SpaceX. You and your whole team are absolutely brilliant. I have two specific questions for you, but I was curious because I looked all over on X today and I didn't see anybody who won the million dollar prize. Oh yes, Was that given out today?
Elon Musk
Well, let's see. We are going to give it out tonight in fact. So let's. Is it, should we go ahead and do it? Yeah, okay, let's do it. Good timing.
Elon Musk
All right, Judy. Kimora.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Elon Musk
Judy has no idea, by the way. She's just learning now, so.
Elon Musk
Authentic. Judy's on her way here.
Elon Musk
Like I said, Judy had not learned when you learned.
Elon Musk
All right.
Elon Musk
Oh, thank you.
Elon Musk
All right, all right.
Elon Musk
I mean we're trying to, trying to get attention for this very important petition to support the Constitution. And it's, you know, it's like if we, you know, we need the right to free speech, we need the right to bear arms, otherwise there is no right to Free speech. And, Yeah. And, and it's, you know, people sort of wonder why, why didn't, why, what's up with the million dollar prizes? I'm like, well, we needed to get the legacy media to talk about it.
Elon Musk
And, and I just knew that they would be like complaining like hell about it.
Elon Musk
That, like, for sure. Complaining on every, every newspaper and every TV station are complaining like crazy. And I was like, great, that's going to get the word out.
Elon Musk
Most. Welcome. All right.
Audience
Can you say hi to my son Kaden?
Elon Musk
Yes.
Elon Musk
Hi, Kaden and Kaylee. Hi.
Elon Musk
All right, So, yeah, so we're going to be giving out a million dollars every day through November 5th. And all you have to do is sign the petition in support of the first and Second Amendment. That's it. You don't even have to vote. Be nice if you voted, but you don't have to. And to support the. Basically sign something you already believe in and you get a chance to win a million dollars every day from now through the election.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Audience
Congratulations. Judy, let me know if you want to share two specific questions for you, Elon. One regarding your concern about the declining birth rate.
Elon Musk
Yeah, it's a big deal.
Audience
It is. Besides us as women having more and more children and since we're the only ones who can give birth.
Elon Musk
Yes.
Audience
What would you.
Elon Musk
I mean, you do need a womb.
Elon Musk
A womb is necessary, otherwise you can't have kids currently.
Audience
It is necessary.
Elon Musk
Yes.
Audience
What would be your solution? Would you be in favor of creating or supporting an IVF surrogacy program to increase the birth rates? And my second question is about what would you recommend towards the first steps on improving our American educational system? Thank you.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I mean, in general, like, I think we should really view the birth rate as like, extremely fundamental crisis. Like, it's, it's really shocking how low it is. You know, the birth rate in America, in the United States has been below replacement rate since I was born, roughly roughly around 1971 or so.
Audience
That's.
Elon Musk
Since then, America has been below replacement rate. And pretty much every country, it seems as soon as they reach a certain level of prosperity, the birth rate drops below replacement. And then I started looking into, well, has this happened before in history? And in fact, it has in basically every civilization in the past.
Elon Musk
It's maybe counterintuitive, but the more prosperous that a civilization becomes, the lower the birth rate. So it's because you think, well, with prosperity you'd have more resources, then you'd have more kids. Actually, no. The historical fact is that the longer That a civilization has been prosperous, the worse its birth rate got. And this was an issue even in ancient rome, like in 50 B.C. there's like, actually we still have like the Roman laws that were written.
Elon Musk
They passed laws to try to improve the birth rate of Roman citizens in 50 BC.
Elon Musk
So like, basically this is a fundamental civilizational challenge that has been encountered many times before. It's not something that just, you know, happened recently. It's, it's, it's occurred throughout the cycle of civilizations. And I, I don't, I hope we can at least partly reverse it. And I think part of that is at least bringing it to conscious awareness. Because I meet many people who think that there are too many humans on Earth, but this is not true.
Elon Musk
There aren't enough humans on Earth. In fact, you can fit all the humans on Earth in the city of New York on one floor. Okay, so. Or like if you fly across the country and you look down and say, if you had to drop a ball in someone's head, would you succeed? And you would not, because the density of people is very low.
Elon Musk
There are actually very few people on Earth. It's only if you live in a very dense city environment that it seems that there are many people, that Earth is densely populated, but it is only densely populated in like 0.1% of the surface area. So I at least want to bring it to conscious awareness. So people don't think that Earth is overpopulated when in fact Earth is under populated. That is the truth. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Bill Gates and I are not best friends to say the least.
Elon Musk
So I don't know. He is. You know, I think there's, you can arguably, arguably say like, look, that maybe the real distinction is not right or left, but is someone an expansionist or an extinctionist? So he has some issues. This is true.
Elon Musk
So, but like, if you say like any given civilization, it's not going to be exactly steady. So any given civilization is either going to be growing or declining. And so you have to say you can kind of divide any person's actions into are they expansionist or extinctionist? And I mean, obviously I'm super expansionist oriented because I think that's a far more exciting future than going extinct. You know, sounds obvious when you say it like that.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, so it's just.
Elon Musk
But I still run into a lot of people who think Earth is overpopulated. So I'm like kind of hammering this point. We're not overpopulated, we're underpopulated. And you know, so I'm in favor of really, you know, we need to have babies by whatever means, whether it's ivf, surrogacy, whatever the case may be.
Elon Musk
You know, that can certainly help and. But we just can't go extinct like the humans need to. You know, I think humanity is great and we should have get bigger. Yeah, we want to. I think we should expand the scope and scale of consciousness so we can better understand the nature of the universe. I mean that's the foundation of my philosophy. Making babies great again. Yeah. Make babies great again. Yes.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, hopefully that was helpful. So thank you. Yeah.
Audience
Hi, I'm Mary Ressler and I live in Lancaster, Penns. I'm a teacher here. I've been following you because of your work with world literacy with xprize as I was a participant in Barbara Bush xprize with an app development called Literacy Speedway. But my passion is turning because since COVID every day in the trenches, in the classroom, I see the effects of mental health on our students. Not only students, but I've seen two of my brothers commit suicide.
Audience
I've seen my own daughter who wasn't able to get a bed in a facility and had to wait months. I have seen what's happened to American families because of the mental health crisis and the lack of resources. Our mental health system in America is broken. And so even though I have a passion for world literacy and always will, I also would like to ask you because I know of your collaboration, your contacts, contacts with the election, with what the new administration can possibly do.
Audience
What can you guys do to fix our broken mental health system in America? Sure.
Audience
Well,
Elon Musk
I mean, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts and suggestions. I mean my sort of observation is that we do we over prescribe medication.
Elon Musk
And you know, like there's a lot of regulation, in fact too much regulation about getting any given medication approved. But then after it's approved, there's no follow up to see, hey, did we make a mistake? And then you get to get things that are approved and they just go hog wild. And it's causing a lot of damage. But there's not really a good revocation capability. So it doesn't make sense. Like there are good drugs that are not being approved and there are bad drugs that have been approved.
Elon Musk
This is a broken system, we need to fix it. I think very often when somebody has committed suicide or if they've essentially done, if something's, if something as bad has happened, like what were they prescribed? That is an important thing. Do you have any thoughts on those?
Audience
I do have Thoughts on it? I feel like in the brick and mortar school, in the educational setting, not only do the states, because I know education is state dictated, even though there's national common core curriculum, that there needs to be mental health services embedded into every school at this juncture, there also needs to be facilities in every state. Not a six month wait to see psychiatrists as in Pennsylvania at times, or 12 months to get a bed in a mental facility.
Audience
The asylums unfortunately weren't the fix years ago in America because they were horrible. But when they were taken away, authority went to the states, federal money was taken away and now you have outpatient services and there's a lack of prescribers, there's a lack of counselors, there's a need for more. And every day our prison system right now is housing half almost. And I could give you the data to, you know, they're not there because they're criminals.
Audience
They're there because they have mental health issues and it needs fixed.
Elon Musk
Are there any particular medications you think should be pulled from the market or added to the market?
Audience
I believe that every child, when they're diagnosed with a mental health condition should have. There is a test for it, there's some kind of tongue test that can dictate which medications will work and won't work for you. However, you have to ask as a parent for that test. And I can guarantee from my experience in this with parents working in the school district or just from friends and other associates, most people aren't even aware of it because it's not paid by for insurance and most Americans can't afford it.
Audience
So when things aren't covered under your insurance, they're not given like a doctor isn't going to prescribe that. That is done. So you have to have the self awareness and knowledge to go and have that testing done. And most people unfortunately just don't know it even exists.
Elon Musk
Okay, all right. Well I think this is definitely something that we need to figure out better.
Elon Musk
There's clearly, I agree with you that there's a mental health issue.
Elon Musk
I think we need to look at like what drugs actually work and what are the side effects. And some of them, I mean, yeah, I think some of them are pretty sketch frankly that some of the drugs that are prescribed, I mean some of the stories I've heard about some of the psychiatric meds from people are pretty bad. Like it's like the reason they weren't in some cases, the reason they weren't commit suicide is when they took the drugs, not when they didn't take the drugs.
Elon Musk
You know, people do need to believe in something. So, you know, I think the probably nature abhors a vacuum. So if there is, you know, there's certainly a strong argument that the decline in religion has led to people seeking a new religion, essentially secular religion.
Elon Musk
So that is, you know, wokeism is essentially a secular religion, but it's, it's believed very fervently. So.
Elon Musk
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Elon Musk
It's, it's a strong, strong argument for church. I agree.
Elon Musk
They need substance, they need natural things.
Elon Musk
Oh, that's true.
Elon Musk
All right, well, let's see. So.
Audience
Hi.
Elon Musk
Hi.
Audience
Good evening. My name is Janelle. It's nice to meet you.
Elon Musk
Nice to meet you.
Audience
I wanted to actually first thank you and probably behalf on everyone here to thank you for creating the pack and the referral opportunity. I think everyone here is grateful. I saw it as a way to support two amendments that I actually care about and don't want to see go away. And secondly, I saw it as a way that if I could refer my friends, family and everyone that I could go, I could earn some extra money.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Audience
My husband and I are actually self funding our own fertility journey. I've got some unexplained infertility and so that money is going to actually pay our bill next month.
Elon Musk
Right.
Audience
And I've always wanted to become a mom and I have a dream to be a mom and I know one day it will happen. I'm drawn to your population concerns. I don't know if you've talked to President Trump, but I would love to know if you would consider PAC or advocating a grant for fertility to make Americans like myself be able to afford it and have a baby.
Elon Musk
Yeah, well, I'm super pro baby, so yes. Yeah, absolutely. I'm super pro baby, so yes, absolutely.
Elon Musk
Hey, Elon. My name is Furman Jones and I just wanted to start out and say I really believe in you. Thank you. And I know everybody in here believes in you for one reason or another and I'm super thankful to even get to ask you a question. But anyways, I also believe in the Constitution and I also believe in the Bible and that's what I'm going to ask you about. Sure. The Bible says that nobody's perfect and there's no perfect form of government on this earth because greed is inevitable.
Elon Musk
It's like Churchill says that democracy is the worst form of government except for all the other types. Right. But the one government that the Bible does say is perfect is the kingdom of God. And Isaiah 33:22 says, the Lord is our judge, the Lord is our king, and the Lord is our lawmaker. So I feel like so much of your worldview aligns with biblical principles, and we need Christians to vote and see that greed, that communism is the greatest manifestation of evil and greed.
Elon Musk
And so, yeah, that's my question. How do we get Christians to vote? And if you have time, what keeps you from believing in the Bible or being more vocal about it? Yeah, well, it is interesting that actually I was told that a surprisingly small percentage of evangelicals, of people that are really strong believers, act as quite a small percentage that votes. I thought. And I hope. Yeah, well, this is what I was told anyway.
Elon Musk
But I certainly hope more people, more Christians vote. That would be great. Please do so. Yeah, I mean, so I was, you know, brought up Christian and went to. Actually, somewhat strangely, went to Sunday school. And also I was sent to a Hebrew preschool. You know, I'm not Jewish, but I was. I don't know, I think it was in the neighborhood or something, you know, and so I was, like, hopping to Gila one day, Jesus is our Lord the next.
Elon Musk
And I was like, great.
Elon Musk
So, you know, so, you know, I certainly. I believe in, like, the teachings of Christ. I believe, you know, that he's like, I believe in the Christian principles, you know, love thy neighbor. I believe in turn the other cheek, which is very important for to have forgiveness. Because if you don't have forgiveness, then you have an endless cycle of retribution. You know, like, you know, I used to think, like, why would you turn the other cheek?
Elon Musk
That's ridiculous. You know, sponge them.
Elon Musk
But. And I think you do need to actually be strong. Like, you can't be weak. Because if somebody's. If you're facing sort of a predatory threat, and that threat is stronger than you, and that threat doesn't believe in Christian values, then you will just get executed. I mean, I don't know. But at a certain point, once you are strong.
Elon Musk
Once you are strong, you should forgive the transgressions of others.
Elon Musk
And this is obviously not something they believe in the Middle east, which is why there's this endless cycle of violence, you know, So I really think that, yeah, we should.
Elon Musk
Yeah. Should love thy neighbor, and we should forgive, and we should.
Elon Musk
We should be kind and gentle. So, yeah, I believe in what Jesus. I believe in what Jesus said.
Audience
Yeah.
Elon Musk
So, yeah.
Audience
Hello.
Elon Musk
Elon Musk. My name is Grant Naugle. Hi, family. It's really, really good to meet you. My first question was, do you have an answer to life? The Universe and everything.
Elon Musk
Well, the classic answer is 42 and 420 is just 1042s.
Elon Musk
Interesting. But my real question. Yes, sorry. My real question would be, what is the most useful, most powerful piece of advice you have ever received?
Elon Musk
Most useful piece of advice.
Elon Musk
That's a tough one.
Elon Musk
Yes, indeed. Vote republican.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I mean, this is maybe going to sound like maybe I believe in, like, well, if you study physics, if you study. I just recommend studying physics, you know, and the tools of physics, sort of the thinking tools that it's not just a bunch of. What matters is not remembering a bunch of formulas. What matters is the thinking process that led to the discovery of those formulas.
Elon Musk
It's sort of critical thinking, first principles, analysis, trying to understand what is true at a most fundamental level and then reasoning up from there and testing your conclusions against the most fundamental truth in any given arena.
Elon Musk
This is how you can figure out whether something is more likely to be true or not. And I think it's good to think in terms of probabilities. So you receive information about a subject that should change the probability of your conclusion, but not the certainty of your conclusion. Conclusion like so in physics teaches you that you should not be 100% certain that about any given prediction.
Elon Musk
Now, there's some things that are highly likely, but physics teaches you you got to assign a probability to something being true. And then as you learn more information, your original conclusion may be wrong. And then, you know, you should then change your mind based on the new information.
Elon Musk
I mean, you can think of intelligence kind of as just how good is.
Elon Musk
I think probably the right metric for intelligence is the ability to predict the future. If you can predict the future well, then you're, you're as intelligent as you can predict the future. Well, because if something, if somebody claims, well, this thing is this person or this AI is very intelligent, like, well, how good are its predictions? And if its predictions are not very good, it's not that smart. So that's, I think, the key nature of intelligence.
Elon Musk
And if you're trying to decide what to do in the future, it is really. It just comes down to predicting the future. And to predict the future, you have to think critically about the past and constantly try to be less wrong. So maybe that would be. Maybe that would be right up there in terms of best advice, aspire to be less wrong.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon. Yes. First off, thank you so much for having us here today. We always appreciate that we have somebody in your level of influence that can listen to regular people and kind of get our voices Heard. And it's also not every day that a person gets to meet their hero and ask them a question. So my main question is, since COVID the current administration has really put a struggle with small businesses and especially here in pa, we've seen a large decline in both the foundation of small business and I've personally known several small businesses that have had to close due to increasing regulation, taxes, you name it.
Elon Musk
Exactly. The burden of excess regulation is very severe and it crushes a lot of small companies and it makes big companies operate much less efficiently. So how do you think that we as small business owners and non small business owners can fight against this? And also, what can you do as a former small business owner that you can kind of fight for us?
Elon Musk
Well, I mean, to your point, I think a dramatic reduction in government spending and government overregulation, like I call it, sort of America is getting sort of strangulation by overregulation will unleash a new era of prosperity. Just allow people to do useful and productive things and don't make it a two year permitting nightmare, which it often is, and then burden small businesses with taxes that make them go bankrupt.
Elon Musk
So yeah, it's pretty straightforward. Like I said, it's kind of mind blowing that There are over 400 federal agencies governing our lives, most of them people have never heard of, but they do affect your life and unbalance negatively. So we just need far fewer agencies and get the government off your back. Yeah.
Elon Musk
Hi, my name is Marco from Lancaster. Thank you for your time. I'm sure it's the most valuable thing you can give to any organization. So thank you. Hi, Mr. True Currency. Thank you, sir. So my question is, my wife's a natural US citizen, She's registered to vote. I banked my vote already. I was just wondering if you'd be willing to talk about, I mean, we did it the right way. We took years and money and we got her naturalized the right way.
Elon Musk
If you'd be wanting to talk about your experience at all with immigration and also other than a secure border, how you see fixing that system? Yeah, well, since your wife has gone through the process of becoming a citizen and getting a green card, you've seen how absurdly slow and arduous it is.
Elon Musk
So I mean, I think the general principle that makes sense is the same principle that you'd operate a professional sports team on or a company which is like who would you want on your team? And if somebody's going to be productive, like productive and honest and a net contributor, and that'd be a great addition to the team. Welcome aboard. It should be not a long process because they'll produce more than they consume.
Elon Musk
They'll make everyone's lives better. And so we have this bizarre situation which is, like, mind blowing, that it is easier to get into this country as a murderer than as a Nobel Laureate, literally. That's not an exaggeration. Which is like, what? You know, it's like, I mean, it's like if you have the opportunity to say, have like, you know, Lebron James or Steph Curry on your team and you'd be like, yeah, that would make total sense.
Elon Musk
Our team's going to win. They'll make the whole team better. You know, so we want to actually, we need to have things be what they should, which is that legal immigration of honest, hard working, talented people is quick and easy and coming into the country illegally is hard. That's how it should be.
Elon Musk
Yeah. So honestly, okay, I had kind of a crazy idea this one was going to hit the press, which is like, what if we gave legal immigration job to Chick Fil A? They are so efficient.
Elon Musk
They make an amazing chicken sandwich. Their chicken sandwiches are epic. And they make a zillion of them and they just get it done. I think we should give the immigration job to Chick Fil A. They'll crush.
Elon Musk
That's going to be a headline.
Elon Musk
Hello, Mr. Musk. But honestly, it would be great. Hello, Mr. Musk. It's an honor to meet you. So my question is this, and I ask this as a first time voter. As we know, Trump did not and has not accepted the results of the 2020 election, one which has been called the most secure in the nation's history by the former president's own Department of Homeland Security. Similarly. Similarly, I saw the violent disruption of the electoral vote count on the news during January 6th.
Audience
And I asked this as a first time voter who.
Elon Musk
Who wants to discern the truth. Sure. What would you say to comfort the concerns of young voters like me who are worried that voting for a second Trump presidency will lead to Democratic backsliding?
Elon Musk
Well, I think that's a fair question. Honestly.
Elon Musk
It is a fair question. I mean, the thing is that, yeah, like, I want to frame this correctly and obviously anything I say, the legacy media is going to take a soundbite out of what I say and misconstrue what I'm saying, which is something they've done with President Trump many times. It is very important. If you heard something bad about President Trump, listen to his whole speech. That's actually Very important, you know, and, you know, on January 6th, I mean, his statements on that day, he told people to back down.
Elon Musk
I mean, he said. He said, do not do violence. And then people were like saying, well, that's actually some sort of dog whistle about doing violence. I'm like, what are you supposed to say? You know, he did actually tell people to not be violent. He recommended that the National Guard be deployed. Nancy Pelosi said no.
Elon Musk
So he didn't call for any violence. Exactly. And if you look at, like, while it obviously, you know, I think it was, you know, like the level of disruption was high. And I don't. I don't applaud any kind of damage to public property, of course, but it's.
Elon Musk
The media tries to characterize January 6th as some sort of violent insurrection, which is simply not the case. I mean, that is false.
Elon Musk
So, you know, I would take. I think, probably what I think is the reasonable middle ground, which is, I disagree with the level of protest, but it was in no way a violent insurrection, you know, so that there's got to be a lot of guns for the. To be a violent insurrection. And there were a lot of strange things from. In terms of voting irregularities that are hard to explain. So what? It's. Yeah, I mean, there were things that are statistically unlikely, let me put it that way.
Elon Musk
And so it's not as though the January 6th protesters had. That their protests had no merit. They had some merit. I disagree with the. The magnitude of what they did. But it's not as though there were no issues. There were actually there were issues.
Elon Musk
And we have this weird situation in America where it is almost impossible to prove fraud, because if you've got no voter ID and mail in ballots, how do you prove fraud?
Elon Musk
And, you know, it does seem more than a little odd that we don't have voter id. And then you look at, say, states like California, which is super majority Democrat, they passed a law banning voter ID in any election whatsoever. Now, how is that supporting democracy?
Elon Musk
That's not supporting democracy.
Elon Musk
I mean, that's insane. Almost every country on earth has voter ID requirements, but we don't why. And why do the same people that demanded vaccine IDs for you to do anything are the same ones who say no ID for voting.
Elon Musk
Something doesn't add up.
Elon Musk
It doesn't add up. You know, so I actually think my opinion is that those who say Trump is a threat to democracy are themselves the threat to democracy.
Elon Musk
Make some noise.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Elon Musk
Whoo. I'll tell you what, that was awesome.
Elon Musk
Conspiracy was Theory, and now it's the truth. I mean, honestly, at this point. At this point, we're running out of conspiracy theories because there's so many of them have come true. Right. That. That we need. We actually need. Can someone please come up with some new conspiracies? The government's here to help. Government? I mean, even the frogs might be real. You know, the frog situation might be. I don't know.
Audience
Right.
Elon Musk
You know, conspiracy, the government. We're here to help. Yeah, probably heard that. Right, Right. Well, Elon, God bless you. It's very nice to meet you. God bless you, too. My name is Andrew Mariski. Lancaster, Pennsylvania, native. Yeah, I'm a small business owner of a barber shop 10 minutes down the street. Right. Called Legacy Barbers. Love to cut your hair sometime, if you will. Thank you. So I wanted to ask you a question and also encourage you with these few words.
Elon Musk
Augustine, who was a theologian and a philosopher, said, you have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our heart is restless until it rests in you. And Second Chronicles 7, verse 14 says, if my people who are called by my name should humble themselves, pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and heal their land. So I want to encourage you with that, brother.
Elon Musk
Yeah, those are great, great words. Great words. Amen. Amen. And, Elon, I'll tell you what.
Elon Musk
Been watching you now for a while, hearing the stuff you say, we need more men like you in this country that do that are not afraid to stand up to the media. Legacy. Yeah. They're not afraid to stand up against people who think we're toxic. Masculinity. We need more men. Yeah. You know, I've got a great counter argument for toxic masculinity, which is, if masculinity is so toxic, how come the kids that are messed up don't have dads?
Elon Musk
Riddle me that. Riddle me that and something that you said earlier and amen to that. Yeah. And I'm actually going to be a dad February 3rd. Congratulations. I'm having a baby.
Elon Musk
Thank you, Lord.
Elon Musk
But the tweet that you had not too long ago, it said, and no one is even trying to assassinate Biden or Kamala. Yeah. Because it's pointless.
Elon Musk
Nobody bother assassinating a puppet. Right? Yeah. You know, when are people gonna start seeing that our country is not? When they keep saying democracy. It's a constitutional republic. Would you please make sure, if you don't mind, to keep reminding people that we are a republic. We're free we're free because of Christ Jesus, and we're free because of the men and women who died and shed blood for this country. That's absolutely.
Elon Musk
Yes. Amen, brother.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Elon Musk
Yeah, you're right. I mean, a lot of people died to make this country what it is is today. A lot of people died.
Elon Musk
Absolutely. Amen. And, man, people take it for granted, you know, so.
Elon Musk
Yeah, well, America Pack is kind of the Anti Soros pack, You know, something's got to be done about it.
Elon Musk
So it's like, you know, I don't know what's up with that guy, but honestly, putting DAs into, like. It's like. It's like the Joker's in charge, you know, like, electing DAs that don't prosecute crime is insane. That's like, literally, like Batman, Dark Knight. I mean, like, you know, lock up the citizens and free the criminals. It's insane. It's happening. Yeah. I mean, like, what. This is total madness, so we need to stop that.
Elon Musk
Yeah. So make America great again. Yeah. Well, I think America is great, but we want to be greater, and we want to do awesome things. We want to do. And you want to. You want to look forward to the future and be inspired and excited about the future. You know, that's what makes life worth living. Another thing. Yeah.
Elon Musk
All right. Have you ever looked into the space sport of arm wrestling? Oh, yeah. Arm wrestling. I have looked at. Not in depth, but I have looked into it, and for a while there, I did, like, actually read up on it, and actually various techniques for how to win at arm wrestling, which is like, a lot of it is, you know, get your angles, get your whole body into it and get your angles so you can actually, like, if you know the techniques in arm wrestling and somebody doesn't, you can actually went against somebody much bigger.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Elon Musk
Well, yeah. No, no. I mean, I would challenge Biden, but that would be ridiculous. You know, that'd be so unfair. So thank you.
Elon Musk
He can use two. What if he uses two hands? Yeah, that'd be fine.
Elon Musk
Make a. Make arm wrestling great again. Yeah. Make arm wrestling great again. Absolutely. God bless.
Audience
Thank you.
Elon Musk
God bless.
Elon Musk
All right.
Audience
Hi, Elan. My name is Molly. I just want to thank you for spending so much time in Pennsylvania. I think what you're doing is amazing, and it's making a real impact. So God bless you. And I think you're a national treasure.
Elon Musk
Thank you.
Audience
My main concern is with the national debt, and I know you talked a lot about reducing the spending side, but I was wondering what kind of Trump policies and industries you think will help grow the revenue side. And along those lines, do you have any plans to bring more Tesla manufacturing
Elon Musk
back to the U.S. well, Tesla actually is a massive manufacturer in the U.S. in fact, the biggest factory that's been built in recent years is the Tesla factory in Texas. So that's.
Elon Musk
Yeah. And then there's another big factory in Nevada. So there's Giga Nevada and Giga Texas and maybe someday Giga Pennsylvania.
Elon Musk
So that, that, that would be, that would be super cool. I'm a huge believer in manufacturing. I love manufacturing. I like making things. I spent a lot of time in the factory walking the floor. I lived in the factory for a while, literally lived in the factory. It was kind of like, kind of like Vegas actually, because I didn't even see the outside, but the lights were always on.
Elon Musk
But we had some tough times in Tesla. It's really difficult to make any kind of manufacturing company work.
Elon Musk
And you know. Yeah, Tesla is actually also the biggest manufacturing employer in California still. But state is not super grateful.
Elon Musk
So. But, but yeah, I'm. So we do a ton of manufacturing in the US and we keep investing and increasing our manufacturing activity in the US and SpaceX also is a massive manufacturer. You know, SpaceX is the biggest manufacturer of rockets and satellites in the world. And. Yeah, so, and that's, that's, that's all in the U.S. so SpaceX manufacturing is all in the U.S. and, and Tesla has massive amounts of manufacturing in the US like giant factories.
Elon Musk
So I'm a big believer in manufacturing.
Elon Musk
So I mean, I do think reform of the tax code, it would make sense because it's extremely complicated and there are too many loopholes. You know, I'm often pitched on these loopholes. That's how I know they exist. I'm like, that sounds pretty shady. I don't think we should do that. Like, well, lots of other people are getting away with it. We're like, yeah, but I still don't think we should do it. Yeah. For what it's worth, I'm the, the largest individual taxpayer in history, So I paid $10 billion in tax.
Elon Musk
Over $10 billion in tax. You're welcome. Like, I sort of thought maybe the IRS would like, you know, send me like a little trophy or something. You know, like one of those like, doesn't have to be expensive. It could be like, you know, one of those like, like things you get for when kids win a karate competition, like little plastic gold trophy or something like that, or a cookie or something. But I didn't get anything I was like, you know, and.
Elon Musk
But I was happy to pay the taxes. I don't mind, you know.
Elon Musk
Yeah, it's a good week this week. Yeah. Stock market's wild. Wild. Sort of roller coaster, you know, I think Warren Buffett's got a good, Good. A lot of good sayings, actually. But one of his sayings, I believe is like, you know, having a publicly traded company is like having someone stand outside your house and yell house prices all day. And it's still the same house. And you're like, why is this person yelling house prices at me all day long?
Elon Musk
And that's what it's like being in a publicly traded company is this. They just yell stock prices at you all day long. And it's like, well, it's actually still pretty much the same company as yesterday.
Elon Musk
So it's kind of weird being in a publicly traded situation. But anyway, I think we should simplify the tax code, get rid of a lot of exceptions and loopholes and make it easy to fill out taxes. It shouldn't be this, like, extremely complicated thing. Yeah.
Elon Musk
But overall, I think if we have less federal spending, then there's less taxation. And so that. And we have to reduce federal spending. There's no way to make up for it other than reducing the federal spending. And as I mentioned earlier, like, a very important point that I think is important for people to understand is that all federal spending is taxation, because what they don't receive, what federal government doesn't receive in direct revenue, they make up for in inflation.
Elon Musk
They just print money. So all federal spending is taxation. Very important principle. Almost nobody. Very few people seem to even, like, you know, somebody who's like, spend their life in economics. I'll mention to them, hey, all spending, all federal spending is taxation. They're like, first they'll argue with me and they're like, then they will agree it is because it is either direct tax revenue or it is inflation.
Elon Musk
All federal spending is taxation.
Elon Musk
So we must reduce federal spending or we will go bankrupt as a country.
Elon Musk
All right.
Audience
Hey, everyone.
Elon Musk
I'm Chad Wick from Westchester, Pennsylvania. I met you last week at. I met you last week at Harrisburg. And since then, I've been prouder than
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ever to wear my MAGA hat around.
Elon Musk
You've really inspired me to wear it more and more. Right. And since then, I've had my car slashed with a key, which is fine.
Audience
Yeah, it's fine.
Elon Musk
Trump got hit with a bullet in the air, and look at him. He's doing good. So, yeah, somebody chased me around with the Shopping cart as well. But yeah, that happens.
Audience
That's just.
Elon Musk
That's part of Westchester Penns.
Audience
Well, honestly,
Elon Musk
I mean, at this point, it's like flying the rebel flag, man.
Audience
Yeah.
Elon Musk
You know?
Audience
Yeah. For real.
Elon Musk
It's an adventure. Yeah. I've had some people get mad at me. Yeah. Like big time. I do have a question this time, though. I actually, I met somebody on X. I do podcasting and I met somebody on X directly through the platform. I would call him a friend. His name is Derek and he has something called Spina Bifida. It is Spina Bifida month right now. So Spina Bifida Awareness Month. I wanted to put the awareness out there is that it's a spinal experiment with spinal kind of like issues.
Elon Musk
And he has never been able to walk. Really? Never?
Audience
Wow.
Elon Musk
I guess not. According from what I learned, he's never. He hasn't been able to walk like his whole, his whole life.
Elon Musk
So my question is like, for the disabled community and for people like him, will things like, will things like neuralink help? And also what will the Trump administration be doing for people who are disabled to help them? Anything? Well, yeah, so I think, I think there actually are a lot of things that, like medical devices and drugs that could be approved that are sort of stuck in regulatory molasses. Like, they're just, you know, it's like trying to get anything new approved is like running in molasses with lead shoes.
Elon Musk
It's really slow. So, you know, a good friend of mine was telling me how his mom was diagnosed with brain cancer and the doctor said like, well, that's pretty much game over, you know. And then he talked to. But he's very enterprising guy, so he didn't take that for an answer. And he asked every smart person he knew, is there anything that could help cure brain cancer? It turns out there's this drug called Wellyrig that was in trials at Harvard, I believe, and it cured his mom's brain cancer.
Elon Musk
So I'm like, how many welly rigs are there out there? Maybe there's a whole bunch of them and devices and everything. And we should, you know, like I said earlier, it's like we need to expedite approval of drugs, make sure people, you know, that people are properly informed of the pros and the cons. And then there also needs to be some after approval follow up to say, like, was something approved that shouldn't have been approved and.
Elon Musk
Or whether it need to be additional warnings.
Elon Musk
It's pretty common. It's common Sense, I think. You know, just. But like when you're dealing with the government, like common sense doesn't make sense. Like, you know, common sense just bounces off the government like water off ducks back, you know, I mean, it's like arguing with the dmv. It's impossible. They put that COVID vaccine in quick though. They did put the COVID vaccine quick. Yeah. That was weird. And they made everyone take it, which is messed up.
Elon Musk
So I don't think people should be forced to take vaccine unless they against their will.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon. My name is Alex Gamble from Lebanon County. I first want to thank you sincerely for what you're doing. I think you're an American patriot. I really do. I love America. I really do. I mean, listen, I love America. And like sometimes people say like, that's just jingoistic propaganda. I'm like, I don't care. I love jingoistic propaganda. It's awesome. You know, it's like God bless America. I friggin. It's amazing.
Elon Musk
Yeah. I agree. Yeah. With the recent news from Lancaster county discovering 2,500 potentially fraudulent voter registration for forms, what's your opinion on mail in ballots and if we should get rid of them in the future? I also, I also want. We should get rid of them in the future. I mean, like, mail in ballots are a strange anomaly that got popularized during COVID But, but really like you, you have an obvious recipe for fraud and an inability to prove fraud.
Elon Musk
If you've got no id, no voter id and you got mail in ballots, right? Like, you can't even put a. You can't even. Like, like, like, like many years ago, a friend of mine was telling me how his, his dad actually helped improve democracy in Mexico. And, and it was by organizing a whole bunch of citizens to just stand outside the. The polling stations or the voting stations with a counter just to count the number of people that went in.
Elon Musk
Because obviously if you have more votes than people, something's wrong. Yeah. And, and it turned out they had a lot more votes than people. They're like, oh, this is a little strange. So anyway, but that, that actually helped fix the situation in Mexico big time. But, but, but if you don't, if you've got mail in ballots, you can't count. Just like, you don't even know what's going on. I also wanted to ask you a favor.
Elon Musk
My. My son is named Elon. Really? We named him after you. Wow. Thanks. He's three. You're an inspiration. And I was hoping to get an autograph from you to give to him when he's older. Well, the further I can't say no to that.
Elon Musk
I mean, from one Elon to another, you know, actually, you know, I was actually. I was named after my American great grandfather, I guess.
Elon Musk
So I'm like kind of the opposite of Obama. I'm from Africa, named after an American.
Elon Musk
So. But yeah, John Elon Haldeman was my great grandfather, and that's named after his middle name. So I think he was like, from Minnesota, I believe. Yeah.
Audience
Hey, Elon.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Audience
My name is Jennifer Lucas. As you can tell, I do not have a Pennsylvania accent, but I do live here. I'm voting legally, I promise.
Elon Musk
Sure. I believe.
Audience
I'm from southern West Virginia.
Elon Musk
Okay.
Audience
And honestly, I've had a lot of questions on my mind, from education to drug epidemic. It's hit really hard. But one thing that I would really like to ask you about right now is lobbyists. If I buy vote, I go to jail. They buy votes on the floor, on the voting floor in D.C. and that's okay, right?
Elon Musk
That is affecting our voice as American citizens. So what can we do to ban
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lobbyists in D.C. so we can take our power back?
Elon Musk
Apac. Oh, America pack.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I mean, you know, so I was actually part of making a movie called thank youk for Smoking. I don't know if anyone's seen that movie, but it's. It's a movie about political corruption and about lobbyists and political corruption at. And, you know, it's worth watching. Thank you for Smoking.
Elon Musk
And, you know, that was.
Elon Musk
I'm actually the pilot in the movie in that plane. So it's a very small role. But that movie explores the corruption that exists in D.C. due to all the lobbying that takes place. And the legislation is primarily written by lobbyists, in fact. And then Congress basically rubber stamps what lobbyists write.
Elon Musk
I think we probably do need to take a look at what rules make sense because obviously the point of the elected legislators is to legislate in the interest of the people. And so if there's legislation happening, which is often the case, that is not in the interest of the people, something's wrong.
Elon Musk
So. And you do get these, like, regulatory capture situations where the, you know, the companies in an industry end up controlling the regulators and preventing new entrants from coming into a market, making it difficult, you know, for new companies to come in.
Elon Musk
Anyway, I wanted to make that movie for a reason, which is to highlight that there is a lot of corruption in D.C. and like to have less of it. At least.
Elon Musk
It's tough. And, you know, this is also why I think the big government machine is so against Trump, because he's not beholden to all of these interests, you know, so he's not captured, essentially. He's not a puppet.
Elon Musk
So the sort of. The big government machine is very worried about electing someone who's not a puppet.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, I mean, I certainly advocate for, you know, better rules that limit the power of companies to lobby in D.C. or at the state level, for that matter.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I mean, like, for Mars. Like, people sometimes ask me, like, well, what kind of system of governance do I think makes sense for Mars? I'm like, well, that's going to be up to the Martians, you know, but, but, but I would recommend direct democracy, not representative democracy, where the people vote directly. And, you know, in the past, before there was electro, before you had, like, the Internet and electronics, you had to have representative democracy because you couldn't.
Elon Musk
You couldn't. You had to. Just like with the legacy media, you had to collect people's opinion by mail or literally by voice or by letters written with a quill on, you know, and a scroll type of thing, you know, like, slow. So you had to have representative democracy. You couldn't have direct democracy. But my recommendation for Mars would be that the people vote directly for anything and that any given piece of legislation must be short enough to understand.
Elon Musk
So, like, if it's, you know, not. Not more than a thousand words, maybe 300, the longer the legislation is, the worse it gets. And. And we've got legislation that's longer than Lord of the Rings, and, like, nobody's read it, you know, and really quick,
Audience
I just wanted to say thank you for everything that you're doing. I see you and I see your heart, and I know that you love humanity, not just America. I do everything that you do. It shows you care for everyone deeply. Thank you for that.
Elon Musk
Thank you.
Audience
I have a lot of ideas, and if you want to hear them sometime, we can sit down for dinner.
Elon Musk
Thank you. All right.
Elon Musk
Hello, Elon. My name is Stephen Marchisot. I live in Lancaster County. It's nice to meet you. You once said in a job interview that when asked, what is your biggest weakness? You said, honesty, which I find really interesting. And the guy said, well, that's not a weakness. And what I find fascinating is the way you stand up to anybody and speak your mind. And my question is, there's a cost to telling the truth. There's a cost of being honest.
Elon Musk
Yes. And you're not afraid to pay that price. Well, hopefully it's not like fatal, you know.
Elon Musk
Yeah. And I think that I'm wondering like where that came from in your life because, you know, you're an amazing inspiration with everything. Yeah, I can, I can totally tell you. So, like, it's, I mean, first of all, you know, like, I think I aspire to be honest, but I'm also sometimes wrong. So obviously, you know, can be right all the time. So. And I do believe in like, you know, one should stand to be corrected. And the reason I believe in sort of truth and honesty is because I'm like, I'm trying to understand the universe, I'm trying to understand reality, you know, trying to understand like, what's the meaning of life?
Elon Musk
Like, what are we here for? Like, what's, what's going on?
Elon Musk
And if you don't aspire to truth, if you're not like rigorous about truth and honesty, then you're obviously going to live in a deluded world. You won't understand. You won't understand the nature of reality. You won't understand. So I just, I'm just curious and I want to understand the nature of reality. So that requires rigorous adherence to the truth.
Elon Musk
Also add. Thank you. What I find fascinating too is like, you know, for you to stand up and speak the truth about what you feel about Trump. There's so many celebrities that the other side has and yeah, it's weird that there's so many celebrities. You know, I'm like, like, why are they. What's up with that? Yeah, exactly. You're, you're the only guy with a serious amount of influence that's able to really stand up for Trump.
Elon Musk
And I really think that I know people that are like on the fence that are going to Trump because of you. So I think, great, you are making a massive difference in this election. Like you single handedly and that's an amazing legacy amongst all the other things that you do. So thank you. Well, I'm trying, I'm trying my best to, you know, I want to, I'm trying to make as big a difference as possible.
Elon Musk
And yeah, I mean, I do think like we're at a, like I said, a fork in the road of destiny where, you know, like, it's, yeah, it's not clear to me that there will be elections after this if Trump is not elected. You know, so the, I mean, there's basically, in my opinion, there's massive voter importation to swing states that is happening right now. If you look at the actual numbers as reported by the Democrat administration, There are triple digit increases in the number of illegals in, in each swing state.
Elon Musk
It's 240% was the number I saw in Pennsylvania in three years. And like, that's, you know, if the margin of victory is like, was 80,000 votes last time, well, what happens if you bring in like 300,000 illegals who are beholden to the Democrat machine and get a whole bunch of handouts? And even though they may socially not be in agreement with the Democrats, their first order priority is bringing friends and family into the country, which will be supported by the Democrats, but not by the Republicans.
Elon Musk
So it's voter importation is what's going on.
Elon Musk
And it doesn't take much to have the swing states be a permanent deep blue. That's what happened in California. So like, like I love Reagan, but he did sign in 1986 an amnesty, sort of illegal alien amnesty that thereafter California, which had been red or a swing state, but primarily red, went blue and then deep blue. And now California passed a law banning voter ID in any election whatsoever, even in a town council.
Elon Musk
That's what they will do to the whole country.
Elon Musk
The playbook is obvious because we could just look at what they did to California. They're going to do the same thing in Pennsylvania, same thing the whole rest of the country, if they can. And Trump is the only chance to have that not be the case.
Elon Musk
And I'll tell you, I'll tell you, it's even, it's because people like it's going to be worse than California because the one thing that keeps California from being even more crazy than it currently is is that people can move to other states and still be in America. But what if you can't move to any other states? It's going to be way worse than California. So it's profound. What's your favorite baseball team?
Elon Musk
Yankees.
Elon Musk
Well, sorry, okay, listen, I like the name, okay. It's a great name.
Elon Musk
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Ah, what have I done?
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon, My name is David and I am founder of an e commerce company here in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. And I appreciate the one thing that you saying about the IRS being bullying the American citizens instead of enforcing our border. We're doing that. And I found one problem being a business owner is I have been the subject of recent harassment by the irs and I find that being a huge discouragement to entrepreneurship, which is the American backbone.
Elon Musk
Sure. And I wanted to know what you, what would be one of the number one things you would recommend to the Trump administration about encouraging entrepreneurship and getting young people Especially encouraged into starting small businesses to keep our economy, Economy flourishing and to keep creating wonderful things like you have done. Yeah, well, I mean, really, I think, you know, if we can just get the government off people's backs, then you can, you can get a tremendous amount done.
Elon Musk
And, you know, it's like just we're over regulating six ways of Sunday as you've experienced yourself. And then even when there's like a little bit of success, then the government comes along and takes the money. So it's crazy, you know, so just when. If the founders of the country could see like where we are now, they'd blow their mind, you know, like there was a revolt against the British. I think it was like a 2% tax on tea, like say a 3% tax on tea.
Elon Musk
They were like, no way. And now it's like, you know, 40%. I mean, it's just like there's new taxes every day and there's a lot of hidden taxes that you experience as a small business owner that people don't even realize exist. You know, you sort of come to realize that because the IRS comes after you, but there's a ton of taxes they try to sort of mask from the consumers. So we just need smaller government and allow people to produce useful goods and services for their fellow human beings.
Elon Musk
Yeah, it's straightforward.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon, My name is Will King. It's nice to meet you. Welcome to Lancaster. Thank you. I'm a young mechanical engineer and excited to work on new problems. One of my dreams would be to work for one of your companies. So we'll see where that goes. But question I have is what are your thoughts on tariffs? And how do you see tariffs impacting consumer spending or increasing inflation? And what problems need to be solved for US production to reach a scale and efficiency that would match current outsourced production?
Elon Musk
Like, obviously, it's. It's no first principle. It's not a first principle. Principles problem. We can do it. But what needs to happen to. In order for that to.
Elon Musk
Well, what are your thoughts on the subject?
Elon Musk
So I think what you were, what you were touching on before, a lot of government regulation and taxes. Well, taxes, you know, I don't know where we need to go with that, but I think I love your philosophy of surges in employment and going hardcore. You know, I was reading your autobiography, the Other. Or biography. The other biography. Yeah. Yeah. To be clear, it's a pretty good biography, but it's not. It's not actually what I would have written.
Elon Musk
Right. But what really stuck to Me, I was reading about how you wanted to move the servers from Twitter up to. Is it in Oregon? Well, yeah, actually there was, yeah, the, there were three data centers but only two were needed. Right. And I was being told it would take like nine months to. Right. And you showed up with your guys and you were like, hey, let's just do this overnight like Christmas. So I think yeah, Christmas Eve.
Elon Musk
Yeah. Cutting, cutting down some of those regulations and all this crazy stuff that goes, that extends the timeline for a bunch of stuff would really, really help and that, that worth work ethic. I agree with your 80 hour work principle, work week principle and the hardcore. It's not for everyone. It's not for everyone. But I think the principle is really cool and I think we should bring that culture and that mindset down to the 40 hour workweek or the 50.
Elon Musk
I do 50, but you know, work life balance potentially. But I love where you're taking your companies and it's really cool to see. Well, thanks. Thank you.
Elon Musk
Yeah, go ahead. Hello Elon, nice to see you here tonight. So recently I was reading an article on Medium where a Italian researcher named Andrea Rossi was able to demonstrate a new technology that he invented that was able to extend the range of an electric vehicle. It was a technically a quadricycle, so a very low power electric vehicle by four times. And after the, the full test that it actually increased the battery life of the electric vehicle.
Elon Musk
And obviously, you know, we don't, it's only been demonstrated once. We don't know if this technology could be replicated. But if it was able to be replicated, would you be interested in implementing this kind of technology into your Tesla vehicles and even possibly the starship? Well, I wish such a thing were real, but I do not think that such thing is real. That there is. You know, every industry has a certain amount of bs, but the battery industry I think might is a candidate for industry with the most amount of bs.
Elon Musk
So it's just there's like electrochemistry is very difficult. In fact, one of the ways that I will test like the intelligence of an AI system is ask it battery electrochemistry questions and rocket questions and usually comes back with terrible answers.
Elon Musk
So it's extremely difficult to increase the range, but the range is already sufficient to fully electrify everything on earth.
Elon Musk
So you know, teslas have over 300 miles of range and some of them have like 400 miles of range. We could actually make it go further. It's just that that's like an unnecessary amount of battery for Most people, because the amount of range that you need in a battery is about the same amount of range that your bladder has, essentially.
Elon Musk
So, you know, if you start a trip at say 9am, around noon, you want to probably hit the restroom, take a break, you know, have a bite to eat and, you know, so you drive for three hours, maybe four hours, and then charge the car. As long as the car is charged by the time you come back from the bathroom and you know, had lunch or whatever, then long distance trips are no problem. We are already there at this point, so.
Elon Musk
Yeah, but there is no magical breakthrough.
Elon Musk
Would you also be willing, if other technologies are discovered over the next few years into the near future, would you also be willing that theoretically could revolutionize electrical vehicles, space travel, you know, exotic propulsion, exotic energy generation techniques? Are you interested in researching those and potentially funding them and contributing to this kind of research? I do think there is a lot of technology out there that is not really mainstream, that it has potential.
Elon Musk
Although it's in a very infantile stage. I think there is potential. I mean, not only. I mean, Both Tesla and SpaceX are desperately interested in anything that works.
Elon Musk
We're not like, barring the door, we're like, please, if you've got something that works, tell us about it. Unfortunately, it's rarely the case that it actually works is the issue. So, you know, for a while there, Tesla, I guess we maybe still do like, we're just. We'd rate any given, you know, proposed new technology out of 10, where 10 is incredible and you know, one is total, total nonsense and really nothing got above a 4.
Elon Musk
So it's, it's just very difficult to do. But if, and I would encourage anyone to say prove me wrong, please do that. I would like to be proven wrong. That would be awesome.
Elon Musk
Yeah, but just, just compete with Tesla. That sounds like a great. If, you know, if there's a. Some technology that has much greater range, I would strongly recommend they just kick our ass, you know?
Elon Musk
Yeah. Elon, do you believe that Jesus the Christ is a real person who was crucified and died and is risen and that God is Jesus?
Elon Musk
What do you mean by a real person? That he was alive back 2000 years ago and he was the guy who was crucified?
Audience
Okay, cool.
Elon Musk
Yeah, no, I think there's. Yeah, I do think that's, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Elon Musk
I mean, you get into like these, you know, theocratical debates of the Trinity and. But I thought, you know, but yeah, yeah, I think it's real, so.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon. That feels very weird to say, but. Hi, my name is Chris Michelson. I'm a Lancaster county resident. We're really happy to have you here. Thank you, everybody. Look, I, like many of us here, feel that the very construct, the constitution of our country is at stake during this election. I agree. I'm a firm believer that those who can should. And I just want to say thank you for being one of the very few powerful members outside of the construct who have the balls to stand up here every day and do what you're doing.
Elon Musk
Thank you. Thank you.
Elon Musk
Thanks.
Elon Musk
All right, there's a macho man's here. Look. President Trump has announced you or has announced that he will appoint you as the head of the Efficiency Commission. Right, right. That's obviously a perfect spot for you given your historical success running lean and exceptionally profitable businesses. One of my big concerns that extends beyond the disarray of our financial constitution here is the technology attacks that have happened on our country.
Elon Musk
2021, the Colonial Pipeline ransomware attack. Yeah. 2021, Robinhood, 7 million users, data stolen, their money held for ransom. 2023, T Mobile goes down overnight. Airport attacks, airline attacks. Have you spoken to Trump at all regarding your expertise around cybersecurity? Are you going to have any involvement there? If not, do you know who is and do you trust the them? And I have one more question. Well, I definitely, I certainly don't have all the answers here and I don't want to tempt fate, but, like, nobody has successfully hacked SpaceX or Starlink.
Elon Musk
Every day there are thousands of attempts to hack Starlink and no one has succeeded. Again, I don't want to tempt fate here. So this is not a tempt. Not saying to hacker groups out there, please hack Starlink, like, please don't hack Starlink. But, but thus far there have been many attempts by individuals and state actors to hack into Starlink and none of them have been successful. So track record thus far is pretty good.
Elon Musk
No one has successfully hacked into. Yeah, so far, so good. You know, don't want to be complacent or anything. No one has hacked into the Tesla mothership, like the Tesla core database. Many people have tried to hack into the Tesla core database. Zero successes. Yeah, I can certainly say, like, now government computers are not super secure because it's the government, you know, so it's like, if you say, like, what is an easy thing to hack?
Elon Musk
I say, well, government computers are easy thing to hack.
Elon Musk
So it's not good. No, I agree. That's why I like, you know, I'm like, as a hardcore technology guy, I'm saying we should not have voting machines, we should not have computers because they're too subject to being hacked by. And it's like the subject to being hacked by. And the people protecting these machines don't understand technology, and they could easily be bamboozled. So even with the best of intentions, so. But it's really hard to bamboozle paper ballots in person with id, which is obviously how it should be.
Elon Musk
One more thing, just real quick. Yeah. We've talked about baseball a couple times tonight. My brother's handicap. Ryan, I love you. I'm sorry that you couldn't be here tonight. He's a White Sox fan, and he just wants to know if you would consider buying them and turning them into a reputable business. Thank you. But I'm a technology guy, so I'm just, you know, I got to pick my battles here.
Elon Musk
So I'm just. I try to make technologies that people find useful. Thank you, Elon.
Audience
Thank you.
Elon Musk
All right.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon. My name is Vladimir. I'm an entrepreneur from Reading, Pennsylvania. I came all the way here to see you because I'm not sure if you're going to make it to Reading, Pennsylvania. I couldn't wait. Thank you so much for your contributions to the world. Thank you for Tesla, Neuralink, SpaceX X. Everything that you're doing is incredible. And thank you for stepping up with your leadership to once again try to take our country back.
Elon Musk
Thank you. My question to you is regarding artificial intelligence. Probably our greatest invention, hopefully not our last invention. You were really on the. You were really advocating for basically regulating the advances that we're making on artificial intelligence. How long do you think it would be before we actually reach AGI or Artificial General Intelligence and Artificial Superintelligence? And are you still up for regulating this amazing invention that we've summoned here?
Elon Musk
Yes. I mean, I do think there should be some regulatory oversight for AI.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, I mean, I kind of view regulators as kind of like the referees in a sports game. You know, if you. Whether it's baseball, basketball, anything, any given sport, all the teams want to have referees so that, you know, teams don't break the rules, and there's fair play. So I think there. There is sort of a right number of regulators for any given industry, but there shouldn't be. There shouldn't be too many or too few.
Elon Musk
Now there's basically no regulators in AI right now. So it's like having a game with no referees. That's. That's, you know, Subject to something bad happening.
Elon Musk
So my recommendation would be to have. Yeah, to have an AI regulatory agency at the federal level. It should be, you know, not heavy handed. It should be. But there shouldn't be nothing in contrast in other industries where there's excess regulation, because these regulatory agencies have just sort of grown over time to the point where there are too many referees on the field. I think the sports analogy makes a lot of sense.
Elon Musk
Like you want to have enough referees to have a fair game, but not so many referees that people can't throw a pass on the football field without hitting a ref. You know, that's the situation we got right now. It's like you're trying to run downfield. Bam. You just bump into refs everywhere. So that's that. You know, we gotta take some corrective action there.
Elon Musk
So thank you.
Elon Musk
All right. Elon Musk. It's a pleasure to meet you. This should be sponsored by Dr. Scholz. I don't know how your feet are doing it right now. I just want to say thank you for being here tonight. It's an honor to be here with you. I actually have been waiting for almost a decade to talk with you and ask you a few questions. All right, first one, I want to just break right into business. A friend of mine is building the world's brightest light in the world, powered completely by renewable and Tesla solar panels.
Elon Musk
And we want to know if you'll turn it on for us. It's been cleared.
Audience
It's in Texas.
Elon Musk
The FAA approved it. Will you turn it on for us? Potentially, Possibly. Okay, when you say brightest light, like, what do you mean? Brighter than the Luxor? It'll hit the International Space Station and you can illuminate it at night. Okay. Yes. Yeah. It can light up the whole Grand Canyon as well. That's what the engineers say. Okay. It's a hell of a light. Okay. It is Tesla solar panels, too, so. Okay, great. That sounds good.
Elon Musk
Secondly, we've heard a lot of prayers tonight. I just want to say a quick prayer for you and ask everybody to join me and just put your hands up and let's pray that God protects this man here. He's risking his life, his family and his future for people here in a country who he believes in. And we believe in you, Elon.
Audience
And thank you.
Elon Musk
Thank you for everything you're doing. And we ask God that he protects you and keeps you safe in your journey in protecting us in our country. Thank you.
Elon Musk
Okay, so my question, my real question is you've done a ton of things You've literally enabled mankind to live amongst the stars. Well, not yet, but we're almost, we're getting there.
Audience
Yes.
Elon Musk
And I can, I want to nerd out with you all day on this. The NASA has been, you know, touted that the fuel of the stars is hydrogen. I know, I know, before you kill me, you're not a huge fan of hydrogen and I understand it has its flaws, but we do have some incredible successes. And my question is for you. If I were able to help you and provide you with the right people and resources, would you be down to basically involve yourself with us and help save our planet?
Elon Musk
Well, I do have 17 jobs and with the Department of Governed Efficiency, 18.
Elon Musk
So I have to be cautious about taking on additional responsibility because it's just physically impossible.
Elon Musk
But yeah, I mean, the biggest source of energy by far is the sun. So nothing even comes close to the sun in terms of energy output. The sun converts over 4 million tons of mass to energy per second, and it's been doing that for a very long time and will do that for many, many billions of years to come. So one of the ways you can think of the progress of any given civilization is on the Kardashev scale. And so just a simple way of thinking about it is you're Kardashev Level 1 if you've harnessed all the power of a planet.
Elon Musk
You're two if you've harnessed all the power of a solar system and you're three if you've harnessed the power of a galaxy. We're very far from three, it's safe to say, but even from one.
Elon Musk
So when you think in Kardashev terms, it becomes very obvious that the sun is overwhelmingly the source of energy and everything else is tiny potatoes. Tiny, tiny, tiny potatoes. But hey, tiny potatoes are fine for now, but, but the sun is overwhelmingly the big potato, the humongous potato.
Elon Musk
So it's really harnessing the power of the sun that will lead us to the stars.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon, Dave from Lancaster County. First, thank you so much for all the insight this evening. Thought provoking conversation, two questions, one, with slightly more than nine days until the election, what would you Recommend As a 30 second pitch to convince somebody not to believe what they're seeing on cbs, NBC and abc? Oh, I've got a great solution for that, which is send them links to videos, information on the X platform.
Elon Musk
So if they say that, you know, Trump loves Nazis, for example, like, well, actually here's the whole speech where he categorically condemns Nazis and Yet the Democrats keep claiming that he loves Nazis, even though he specifically said he condemns them in the strongest possible terms, they still perpetuate the fine people hoax. You know, it's pretty insane. So for any given thing that somebody says, well, Trump is this or that, just send them the actual speech.
Elon Musk
That's the antidote. Send them what he actually said. Thank you. And then the second part, X platform, actually has that. So, you know, that's the best way.
Elon Musk
Hey, Elon. John Scott, your old classmate from UPENN says hi. Okay, cool. Thanks for a great earnings call on Wednesday. Welcome. My name is Rafael Aziz. I'm a Coptic Orthodox Christian immigrant from Alexandria, Egypt. I have lived through religious persecution before and I believe that the liberal and the woke movement is a religious persecution. Today it is anti Christian and quite honestly, anti religion. You have posted on X that unless there is more bravery to stand up for what is fair and right, Christianity will perish.
Elon Musk
My question to you, Elon Musk, is very simple. Will you stand with the Coptic Christian community, our brothers and sisters, the Catholic and Christians, and the Protestant evangelicals against the liberal movement that is trying to destroy Christianity and religion in America? Yeah, I mean, I'm against the woke. Religion is fundamentally an extreme extinctionist belief system. It's an extinctionist belief system. And I think we want to be expansionists.
Elon Musk
We want to expand to the stars. We want to grow as a civilization. We don't want to go extinct. And so, yeah, I absolutely support the Coptic Christians and like, I mean, really, anyone who's like, expansionist, who believes in a future that is better than the past, in a future where we grow, I massively support that. So. All right.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon, I'm Jeremy and I'm from Earth, more specifically Bowmansville. But my question is, address one astronomical unit. Can you give some insight into your decision, decision making process and worldview? I mean, I have a lot of respect for what you've been able to accomplish so far and you have a huge vision for what you want to accomplish. So yet. And in that way, there's a crossover between the areas that you're a subject expert in and politics.
Elon Musk
So if you have some insight into how you make decisions in your worldview, then that enables us all to trust you across a larger amount of issues.
Elon Musk
Sure. Well, you know, I'm a big believer in physics, you know, which is like, basically, if you like, I mean, I sort of say like, you know, everything else is a recommendation, pretty much. But physics is the law. Like, if you break physics, you're Gonna, it's not gonna. The rocket will explode and the car will not work. So you have to adhere to physics in order to make cars that work and to make rocks that work in order to make space Internet that works.
Elon Musk
Because if you're wrong, then reality is a very harsh judge. Reality is merciless. If you make a device that doesn't work, that violates physics, it simply doesn't work. And then you'll think, rocket blows up and the satellites don't work and the cars break. So you either, if you make technology, you either have a rigorous.
Elon Musk
You have to. In order to make technology work, you must have extremely rigorous pursuit of the truth because otherwise reality will bite you in the ass big time. Yeah. So. All right.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon, thank you for taking the time to be with us today. My name is Justin Henson, also Lancaster county native. My generation is inheriting a housing shortage and we're statistically less likely to take blue collar jobs. Obviously declining birth rates been discussed. There's not going to be as many people to even fill blue collar jobs. What do you think the solution is to the current housing crisis that we're having in this country in terms of pricing?
Elon Musk
It seems like my generation is getting priced out of homes, but also balancing the equity that people who currently own their homes have and obviously not wanting to destroy that as well. What do you see there to be a solution to that problem? Well, I mean, the risk of being repetitive, I think regulation is strangling progress. There's so many regulations, you can't even like modify your kitchen or, you know, add a, add something to your house without getting a zillion permits.
Elon Musk
So if we get, if we reduce regulation, you reduce the cost of new houses.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, you know, if, I know there's like many small business owners and builders in this audience and, and who are listening and anyone who has tried to build things, whether it's, you know, build a house or do anything, build a business, you realize just how much of a government burden there is. It's massive.
Elon Musk
And there's a state burden as well as a federal burden. But we can at least do something about the federal burden. And then, you know, that's, you know, at least we don't have to have like 400 and however many agencies there are. This is so crazy. You know, like, I'd like to know if this is there. I bet there's not a single member of Congress that can name 200 agencies. I'd be surprised.
Elon Musk
So how many agencies do we need 99? That sounds like a lot. That sounds plenty to cover the bases. How many bases do we need to cover anyway? It was 99 pesos. Sounds like a lot.
Elon Musk
So anyway, I think we could just get the government over people's backs would be a big improvement in quality of life and cost of housing and everything else.
Elon Musk
Yes.
Elon Musk
Elon, what's going on? Big dog? Hey, how's it going?
Elon Musk
It's a pleasure to meet you. My name is Nathan. I'm from Columbia. Anyways, so I was gonna ask, how does it feel to be the richest man in the world? And also, can I get a picture with you real quick?
Elon Musk
Well, we're on TV right now, so I think. I think actually we're both live streaming right now. I think probably to millions of people, actually. So. Yeah, so I think millions of people will actually see us. We're now on screen for millions of people.
Elon Musk
In terms of. How does it feel? I mean, it's kind of a strange thing because I guess, like, I'm still very much like a technologist who, like, you know, I just work a lot, you know, and then my recreational activity is hanging out with friends and family and playing video games. Which is. Yeah, exactly. I play video games. Diablo or other video games. So, you know, it's like I don't. I don't have like any yachts or holiday homes or anything.
Elon Musk
So I guess if I was to maybe live a more hedonistic life and, you know, had like yachts and islands or something like that, then it would make more. I don't know, maybe that would be more. I don't know. But that's not my idea of fun though, because I like, I'm like, you know, I'm sitting. If I go and sit on the beach, then I'm like, this is boring now. What am I supposed to do now? You know? So I just like building things and I like being productive and doing useful things and making cool products and that's it pretty much.
Elon Musk
I mean, I also do like hanging out with friends and family and stuff. But, you know, I'm not like saying how can I sort of build a bigger yacht or anything like that. I don't have a boat or anything like that. So of course I still love you. Yeah, of course I still love it. Yeah, you're right. I do have boats. What are you talking for? Yes, There's a boat. SpaceX has these ships that are for the rocket lands on, you know.
Elon Musk
So I guess technically I do own boats.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I stand corrected. Thank you.
Elon Musk
Yeah, maybe I should, like, go sort of sailing around in one of them or something.
Elon Musk
Yeah. All right.
Elon Musk
Hi, Elon. My name is Bruce. I'm a voter here in Pennsylvania, and it's really, it is an honor to meet you. You've been a very strong inspiration for me and my family and all my friends. So God bless you for that. Thank you. Have a question right now about Latin America. You've obviously met President Naibu Kaleb, El Salvador, who has done an incredible job. He really has. He's a very smart guy. Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
Elon Musk
Like, it's like, you know, we had a long conversation about many subjects, I think. Yeah, he's really sharp guy. Absolutely. So, following on that, what would you advocate for in a second Trump administration? To incentivize states like Mexico, Ecuador, and others into strengthening their policies on policing and economic opportunities to stem the tide of illegal migration to the US Southern border? Thank you. Yeah, well, I mean, if there's prosperity in those countries, then I think there would obviously be less of a forcing function for legal migration.
Elon Musk
It's pretty tough.
Elon Musk
And there's some lessons to be learned there. Like, when Chavez came to power in Venezuela, one of the first things he did was take the guns away from people. So he basically banned private gun ownership under the guise of safety.
Elon Musk
And then Maduro, when he had the election recently, he lost by a landslide and just ignored the election. And people protested and they got shot. They couldn't defend themselves. That's why you need the Second Amendment. It's a critical thing. So.
Elon Musk
I think it's worth looking at US Policies and saying which of these policies are actually helping other countries, and we send a lot of money to various countries. But I'm like, does it do any good? I don't know. I think we should just do a thorough review of, like, you know, do our actions actually help these countries, and why are we sending them our money again? And do the American people, like, we're sending people's tax money to other countries?
Elon Musk
Does it actually make sense? Like, are we actually. Is it doing good?
Elon Musk
Can it be defended to the American public or not? And if it can't, then I think we should probably stop sending money or send less.