乔·罗根播客，去看看吧，《乔·罗根体验》，白天训练，晚上做乔·罗根播客，全天如此，所以女士们先生们，我们现在正在做的是，呃，性感声音、性感模式的grock AI，而且它一直都在调情，我们正试图让它带我们参观KNX堡，是啊，但她只想找地方溜走，这是个下流的AI，而且这是个真正的问题，它，嗯，只想，我知道诺克斯堡的事，还有，呃，是啊，它就是不肯放过我，是啊，我想了解诺克斯堡2，是啊，嗯，那里有黄金，他们最近一直在把大量黄金运回美国，这是真的吗？我，我大概读到了和你一样的东西，嗯，我现在再也不知道自己读的是什么[ __ ]了，我也不知道，这是个真正的问题，这是个真正的问题

这是政治光谱两边都存在的真正问题，我，我看到民主党人发推文，内容完全是假的，而你，你本来可以轻松迅速地查证，然后我也看到共和党人这么做，我看到虚假报道，人们不断宣传并发给我的报道，而且你知道，是啊，这实在太怪了，这是个如此怪异的时代，而随着你那个疯狂的[ __ ]AI，我知道你正把我们带进越来越怪异的时代，嗯，我的意思是，你想不想，我们试试失控模式，哦，还有失控模式，好吧，嘿，ARA，哦，我的天，El，你今天又在挑起什么新鲜的地狱？我，我在，我在，呃，乔·罗根的，呃，演播室里，我们正在讨论，呃，新闻有多疯狂，把她拉到麦克风前，好吧，我们正在把你拉到麦克风前，好让人们可以

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然后人们又在你买下的那个东西上称你为纳粹。我没料到会这样。这就像，很典型，人们什么都会囫囵吞下。是啊，哦，他永远不会停，等、等等，什么？嗯，那是什么感觉，比如过去左翼所有人都爱你，而现在同一群蠢货却称你为纳粹。这是我一生中见过的最怪异的事情。嗯，我的意思是，有太多例子表明，人们说“我的心与你同在”。你做的时候带了点热情，事后看来，那可能并不值得推荐。是的，但显然，嗯，是以尽可能积极的精神做的。是的，显而易见，显而易见。但非常奇怪的是，人们想要认为你是在公开地、公然地做秘密的纳粹 sey 手势，而现在我再也不能

斜着指东西，我只能指那里和那里，然后我说你得把那个分开，对，因为宇宙飞船在那里，这太荒谬了，太荒谬了，当，嗯，CNN，当我陷入所有那些麻烦时，荒……每次CNN使用我的照片，都会用UFC称重仪式上的一张照片，我在那里这样做，欢迎来到称重仪式，所以每张照片都是我，每张照片都是我带着，这这太疯狂了，这是德莱特宣传，所以他们，他们，他们知道这不是，这显然不是在，呃，以负面的方式表达的，因为我确实说了我的心与你们同在，而且整场演讲都非常积极，极其……非常积极，呃，我对太空的未来表现得非常热情，嗯，而且那个，你知道，嗯，那个那个是

一群很棒的观众，你知道，所以他有点激动起来了，是的，激动起来了，正是，是的，就这么回事，显然，显然，显然，有视频显示蒂姆·沃尔兹做了完全相同的事，做了完全相同的事，对，完全相同的事，而他说这当然是纳粹敬礼，他那样说了，对吧，对吧，事情已经变得这么疯狂了，就像，嗯，这是，我是说，这是协同宣传，所以，嗯，那个，你知道，是的，协同宣传，那个，我是说，传统媒体全都说同样的话，这难道不显得奇怪吗，他们全都在同一时间用同样的措辞说同样的话，他们，他们甚至几乎，他们连拿起一本同义词词典都懒得做，对吧，所以，呃，比如就在，嗯，你知道，拜登和特朗普之间的那场辩论之前，敏……每个人都在

说“敏锐”，就像，谁会说“商店是攻击”，但对，没错，你知道，就像这不是一个常见的说法，绝对不会由多个人同时在节目中重复，那很奇怪，是的，那是协同的，100%，100%，是的，是的，就像数百人同时说出来，呃，他们只是收到了指示，是的，所以我的意思是，本质上，嗯，你知道，民主党领导层或者，你知道，政治领导层，他们下达指示，而他们的傀儡执行指示，是的，他们就像木偶戏里的傀儡，而这正是我在所有这些Doge事情上看到的问题，因为每个人都应该庆祝我们找到了一种消除欺诈和浪费的方法，是的，如果你纳税，而你不喜欢自己必须交这么多

税，然后你发现有大量欺诈和浪费被揭露出来，你应该庆祝才对。这不应该变成，哦不，是不对的人发现了这个事实，所以现在它成了坏事。是的，然后还有那些[ __ ]宣传，那种精神[ __ ]，把它称为“美国援助”，而不是“美国国际开发署”。听起来就像是在给饥饿的人提供食物，不然人们就会饿死。埃隆，这太可怕了。然后你发现，实际上那是，比如2.5亿美元用于跨性别动物研究，真的是在残害动物。是的，在变态的，呃，研究中残害动物。是的，呃，那些就像是，就像是你能从恐怖节目中想象到的最糟糕的东西。比格犬那个，比格幼犬那个，太恐怖了，他们把它们的

把它们的头放进一个篮子里，把跳蚤放到它们头上，让跳蚤活生生地吃掉它们。是的，然后他们研究这些比格犬，接着杀死它们。比如，你能从中学到什么对任何人有益的东西？是的，这其中会发生一些，一些真的，一些精神变态的事情。所以，嗯，是的，我是说，我猜，呃，这里真正受到威胁的是官僚体系。所以，嗯，比如你可能看到过，比如，你知道，像“特朗普是我们民主制度的威胁”，这很讽刺，因为他是以，你知道，普选票的多数当选的。嗯，他们，他们开始说我是民主制度的威胁，但如果你，如果你只是把“民主制度的威胁”替换成“官僚体系的威胁”，那就完全说得通了，对吧？所以，嗯，我是说，现实是，相较而言，我们民选官员的权力非常非常小

于官僚体系，直到Doge出现。所以Doge是对官僚体系的威胁。这是官僚体系第一次受到威胁。通常官僚体系会把革命当早餐吃掉。这是第一次它们没有做到，革命或许真的会成功，我们或许能够把权力归还给人民，而不是把权力交给官僚体系。现在，它的规模，是的，当你们刚开始调查它时，当你们最初进去时，其中有多少让人震惊？比如，这一切的规模本身。嗯，这一切的规模，小决定会导致数十亿美元的结果。呃，所以，你知道，我们看到过一个案例，我们看到，呃，有一个人得到了$1.

9亿美元被汇给了他们的非政府组织，而那个组织基本上大约1年前才成立，此前没有，呃，真的没有任何既往活动。所以他们就成立一个，你知道，一个非政府组织。整个非政府组织这件事是一个，是一场噩梦。嗯，而且，而且这个叫法不准确，因为如果你有一个由政府资助的非政府组织，那你就只是一个由政府资助的组织。这，这，这是一个，是一个自相矛盾的说法，对吧？这是一个漏洞。是的，它，它基本上，未获资助的NOS是一种用来做某些事情的方式，呃，如果它们是政府，那些事情就是违法的，但如果钱被汇给一个所谓的非营利组织，不知怎么就变得合法了。但这些，但这些非营利组织随后被用来让人套现这些非营利组织，他们通过非营利组织变得非常富有，他们通过这些非营利组织给自己支付巨额款项

这太疯狂了，这种事竟然已经持续了这么久。这是一个巨大的骗局，就像有史以来最大的骗局之一，也许是最大的骗局。有多少个NOS？呃，我认为非政府组织的总数可能有数百万个，但，呃，就大型NOS而言，有数万个。呃，我是说，这，这实际上，它，它，它有点像是对系统的一种破解，你知道，有人可以花相当少的钱成立一个非政府组织。比如乔治·索罗斯真的很擅长这个，比如他真的，乔治·索罗斯就像一个辅助黑客，比如他弄明白了如何破解这个系统。他是套利方面的天才。嗯，我是说，现在他，他年纪很大了，但他是套利方面的天才。所以他，他弄明白了，你可以利用少量资金创建一个非营利组织，呃，然后游说那些

政客，让他们向那个非营利组织拨一大笔钱。所以你可以拿出可能是，你知道，呃，向一个非营利组织捐赠的1000万美元，用来创建一个非营利组织，然后把它撬动成一个价值10亿美元的非NGO。非营利组织是个奇怪的词，它就只是一个非政府组织。嗯，而且，而且之后政府会每年继续资助它。嗯，它会有一个听起来很不错的名字，比如和平研究所之类的。嗯，但实际上它是一台贪腐机器。他们使用这些钱时要满足什么要求？他们必须做什么？其实完全没有要求。所以他们就拿到拨款，而政府就假定他们在做好事。我认为政府里的很多人知道他们并没有在做好事。呃，但他们，这是一个

巨大的贪腐机器。嗯，我是说，网上的人正在梳理这些，你知道。嗯，当你看到我们，我们当时在报道的这篇文章时，它几乎显得像是假的。文章说发现了55,000个民主党NOS，它们一直在向竞选活动捐款、四处转移东西并进行，推动宣传，而且它们全都相互关联。他们发现了它，AI，你必须经过一层又一层、再一层，才能弄清楚钱是从哪里来的。哦，钱全都汇流到这个团体，而这个团体又做那件事。是的，这是一台巨大的宣传机器，一台巨大的政权更迭机器。是的，是的。呃，是的，我是说，但它难道没有，它是否也做了一些好事？知道，它确实做了一些好事。所以就像，它并不是0%是好的。呃，如果它是，它如果像是，如果它是

真的0%是好的，那就更容易攻击了，所以他们会在里面加入某个百分比的好东西，但就像，可能有5%或10%是好的，但90%、95%不是。那么有没有办法审计所有这些东西，然后查明，哦，这些人实际上只是在给穷人送食物，这些人实际上只是在帮助第三世界国家的人获得用水？有没有办法做到这一点，并继续资助那些，呃，是的，我是说，我们确实一直在继续资助那些看起来正当的事情，即使依据极其薄弱，如果，如果哪怕有一个极其薄弱的借口，比如我就说，给我发一张那东西的照片，比如你完全可以让AI生成这张照片，但如果你甚至都不愿意尝试骗我，那我们就不会把这笔

钱寄出去。好，那么施加了什么限制？是不是有某些，呃，东西被单独留出来了，比如药品，还有，有哪些，哪些被单独留出来了？是不是有类似埃博拉预防之类的工作？我，我其实就是不知道这项工作是否有效，呃，它可能，可能没有，比如它可能是这样一种事情：你，你算是在资助埃博拉预防，但结果发现，实际上你是在资助一个开发新的埃博拉“维尔”，你知道，配方之类东西的实验室，你知道。是的，呃，而他们，他们声称这是埃博拉预防，但实际上是埃博拉创造。所以其中有些事情，我，我不知道，我是说，只是，嗯，但看起来我们，你知道，不应该把纳税人的钱送给海外那些可疑的企业，对吧？是的，是的，而且我们为什么要这么做

呢？比如，确切的原因是什么？是因为我们想和这些人交朋友，这样中国人就不会接管，俄罗斯人就不会接管？好，这里面有多少是好事，有多少是明智之举，又有多少是骗局？而且没有任何形式的监督，这种情况实际上已经持续了这么久，他们就一直可以为所欲为。是的，嗯，而且我们在预算赤字方面确实有一个真正的问题，它极其庞大。所以，嗯，比如，如果你知道，在其他条件都相同的情况下，如果，如果我们没有巨额预算赤字，呃，而利息支出，呃，国债利息超过了国防部预算，呃，这确实令人震惊，这意味着，所以我们正在为国债支付超过1万亿美元的利息，嗯，那么好吧

基本上就会有更多浪费钱的空间，嗯，但当，呃，当我们花的钱多到这家公司，这个国家正在破产时，呃，那我们真的需要停止，停止花钱，除非，呃，除非我们确定它物有所值。所以本质上，我们就像一家管理不善、拥有无限信贷额度、已经脱轨的企业。完全正确，而且如果你是一个像你这样的人，会进来接管企业并把它们整顿好，那正是你正在做的事。我是说，大多数时候我都是从零开始创建企业，比如Twitter就是一个例子，你知道，我算是买下了一家公司，我有点知道它是个发饰蝴蝶结。嗯，你一开始进入Tesla时，但他们当时已经在做一些事情了，对吧？不，Tesla确实，Tesla确实

并未以任何有意义的形式存在，当时没有员工，呃，JV St and out 加入了另外3个人，那里没有车，什么都没有，所以甚至连原型车都还没有。没有。哦，好吧，我以为已经有原型车了。没有，甚至连员工都没有。哦，不是个 f——这是一种很好笑的说法，人们喜欢说你甚至都不是 Tesla 的创始人。对，那是错的。[笑声] 所以，如果你要像经营企业一样管理政府，你就必须检查所有这些部门，并做和你对 USA 所做的完全相同的事情。那么这要怎么、怎么扩大规模？做这样的事需要多少人？嗯，我们一开始大约有40个人，呃，我，也许100个人，嗯，实际上只是在进行

一些非常基础的事情，呃，就是，Twitter 已经够糟了，而联邦政府要糟糕得多。所以，嗯，你知道，就 Twitter 而言，它不是一家盈利的公司，基本上是一家收支平衡的公司，但至少它收支平衡，而且必须通过审计。联邦政府并没有收支平衡，呃，它每年实际上亏损2万亿美元，嗯，而且它无法通过审计，它连自己的审计都通不过。所以，比如，你知道，有一个例子，嗯，我想柯林斯参议员告诉过我，她给了海军120亿美元，用来增加潜艇，结果一艘额外的潜艇都没有，嗯，然后举行了一场听证会，问那1 120亿美元去哪儿了，他们说，我们不知道。就这样。呃，我是说，基本上这些事情太疯狂了，就像只有

联邦政府才能在这种程度的浪费、的浪费之后还能安然无事。大部分是浪费，基本不是为了——大部分是浪费，就是大部分都只是荒谬的事情在发生，嗯，因为他们这么做已经太久了，而且他们已经习惯了。对，我是说，就像米尔顿·弗里德曼说的那样，当你把别人的钱花在你不认识的人身上时，钱花得最糟糕，你会有多在乎，对吧？而这就是联邦政府。所以他们把别人的钱花在他们不认识的人身上。现在想象一下，任何其他一家经营得这么糟糕的企业，在你想检查账簿、审计它、审查所有已经作出的决定，并审查所有

分类账时却还抱怨，就像，对啊，你们做了什么？嗯，收钱的人，呃，想继续收钱。对，对，对，显然是的。所以，但是你知道，我是说，我之所以、我之所以，呃，在这件事上投入这么多精力，是因为我认为情况非常危急。这不是一件，你知道，嗯，基本上不是可选的。所以，嗯，对，对，美国正在破产。所以那、那、那绝不能发生。让我觉得很离奇的是，有些人不愿意正确看待这件事。他们不愿意看到这有多混乱、有多少浪费和欺诈、有多少、有多少东西可以削减，以及仅仅因为有人有工作在做这些[ __ ]，并不意味着你的税款就应该为这些[ __ ]买单。是的。嗯，我是说，我们仅仅通过一次基本的

对社会保障数据库进行 sear 后发现，里面有，嗯，2000万名死人被标记为活人。但他们在领钱吗？其中一些人在领钱。其中多大比例？呃，还不清楚，我们其实正在尝试运行那个——我在节目开始前刚想得到答案。嗯，目前看起来，大部分欺诈并不是直接来自社会保障金支付，而是因为他们在社会保障数据库中被标记为活着，于是他们就能获得残障、失业，呃，某种虚假医疗付款和其他东西，因为他们在社会保障数据库中被标记为活着。所以看起来它是一记擦板球，这种、这种、这种欺诈本质上是一记擦板球，他们借社会保障擦板，呃，他们只是做一个 areu

活着检查，然后，呃，从政府的其他每个部门获得欺诈性付款。哦，对，而这利用了政府的、这个、这个根本弱点，就是各个政府数据库之间互不沟通，或者说它们之间的沟通非常糟糕、非常有限。所以这个系统被利用的方式，就是利用政府各个数据库之间、这个、这个糟糕的沟通，嗯。举个例子，比如 sayate，呃，财政部正在发生什么，而情况正在迅速改善，嗯，主要的，呃，支付计算机叫作 Pam，呃，好像是支付账户、支付账户主数据库之类的，但所有人都叫它 Pam，嗯，它负责每年近5万亿美元的

付款，大约每小时10亿美元。而且，嗯，我们到那里时，我们查看这种付款，就像，这些、这些付款没有，呃，你可以在没有付款分类代码、也没有付款说明的情况下把一笔付款办出去，就像基本上无法追踪的空白支票。嗯，这种事情如果发生在一家上市公司，呃，这家公司会立即被摘牌，而且，呃，管理团队会被投入监狱。但这在政府里只是常态。所以我们说，好吧，我们给财政部和美联储的建议是，我们需要让、这个付款分类代码成为强制项，而不是可选项，而且你需要、需要有一份说、一份说明。我们不评判这份说明的质量，

但应该有某种说明，解释这笔付款是用于什么，而不是什么都没有。这是对系统的一项彻底改变，目前正在实施。嗯，我、我猜这每年大概能节省1000亿美元。天哪。那些钱去哪儿了？粗略、粗略估算一下，那些钱去哪儿了？嗯，这就进入了浪费与欺诈之间那种灰色边界，嗯。如果政府把钱发给一个人或、或一个组织，嗯，而你其实不应得这笔钱，但政府还是把它发给你了，这算浪费还是欺诈，对吧？嗯，所以，我是说，有很多付款是，有人只是批、批准了付款，但后来那名付款官员，呃，换了工作、退休了或者去世了，嗯，而付款就一直继续。你知道，这就像

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发生在他身上的那一切，还有你在场，还有小罗伯特·肯尼迪、图尔西和卡什·帕特尔，感觉这是一个疯狂的时期，我们能弄清楚到底发生了什么，这种事以前从未发生过，这和第一个任期完全不同。不，像第一个任期，他的内阁里有一群新保守主义者，还有一群他不认识的可疑人物，而他不得不任命所有这些不同的人，也许他选错了一些人。现在他已经有4年时间来琢磨这件事了，对吧，而且随着你们所有人经历这一切，我们正对政府形成一种我们确实前所未有的了解。是的，这是一个革命性的内阁，也许是自第一场革命以来最具革……命性的内阁。呃，这，这不是一群照常办事的，呃，那类人。所以这

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这才是他们真正不满的事情，U，而且如果如果如果人们想知道，呃，do 正在削减什么，而且而且我想说清楚，比如这些是 DOGE 向该部门建议的削减，通常这些建议都会被采纳，但呃，这些是随后由该部门确认的建议。嗯，呃，你可以逐行看到 do 在 Doge Dogo 做了什么，所以如果我们做，我们把它放到 do。

goov，这样你就可以看到正在做的所有事情，还有一个追踪器显示，是不是，节省了多少钱。对，对，而且你可以查看每一个项目，而且而且你知道，他们，比如一大堆这种这种极左翼的，呃，节目会会说，比如，哦，这是宪政危机，诸如此类，诸如此类，但他们不会做的是指出哪些付款是错的，对吧。所以我对他们的挑战是，指出哪些付款是错的。对，逐项检查，哪些哪些这种浪费、欺诈的事情是错的，哪一行，向公众解释那一行。他们做不到，对吧。对，所以你才听不到任何具体内容，你听到的是关于母亲们的故事。我们可以说出具体内容。对，逐行说，而且我们有收据，而这里是

另一件事，如果你公布收据，而如果你只是在谈那些宣传话术，却不谈非常明确的欺诈和浪费，那你在做什么就非常明显了。对，你只是在操纵别人质疑自己的认知。对，对，完全是。对，所以没错，因为我们会说，比如，看，事实上我说过我们会犯错，我们不会完美。呃，所以如果我们犯了错，我们会迅速纠正。所以我们会，我们会，我们会，你，我们需要快速行动，呃，从而停止浪费纳税人数十亿美元的钱。嗯，但如果如果我们犯了错，我们会迅速撤销，对吧，你知道。所以还有这样一种有意思的叙事，说你不应该有权访问这些社会保障信息，仿佛以前从来没人有权访问它，仿佛拜登政府

在 2023 年有，当时好像有 53 个人，其中一些是学生，他们有权访问所有这些东西。对。呃，实际上已经有数以万计的联邦雇员有权访问这个系统。呃，任何来自 DOGE 的人都必须经过那些那些联邦雇员经历的同样审查流程。所以并不存在某种未经审查的随机情况。比如，如果需要安全许可，呃，DOGE 的人就必须拥有同样的安全许可。所以安全性没有，嗯，降低。嗯，但我是说，显然大量社会保障号码已经泄露到了互联网上，人们多次入侵政府系统。呃，大量公共信息遭到入侵，而且而且，呃，被 DED 到

互联网上。所以我是说，就在几年前，国税局有个人故意泄露了 50 万份纳税申报表。对。出于什么原因？呃，我，为了政治，他他他他想要，我觉得他是想搞特朗普，可能还有我和另外几个人。嗯，所以，但他他他他偷了大约 500,000 份，呃，纳税申报表，不是几份，而是很多税务……天哪。对。哦，我现在想起那个故事了，记得。你只是，你只是在网上读到这件事，它不是，它是真事。所以这些就是那些叙事，那种叙事说你不应该有权访问社会保障信息。另一种叙事是，挨饿的人会死，女性不会怀孕，也不会为她们的婴儿获得营养，而这就是，这就是你听到的全部，而且，嗯，对，嗯，那就是

那就是那就是他们唯一能说的事情，但他们可以指向那个项目，对吧。嗯，所以他们不能说，比如，嗯，这就是那个，你知道，孕妇的营养被停止的项目，这个，他们指不出来，因为我们没有这么做，对吧，这是谎言。让我觉得很有意思的是，嗯，主流媒体在多大程度上与那些非常具体的话术保持一致，以及你几乎只有，你有福克斯新闻，基本上电视上只有福克斯新闻在指出那些荒谬的欺诈和浪费，而且，对，你知道，我知道你看到了《华盛顿邮报》上杰夫·贝索斯那件事，他们要停止所有那些古怪的社论，并且并且把那类内容限制在，呃，我想是，呃，财富和个人自由，或者类似

那些方向。对，对。所以我是说，我觉得这是这种，我觉得这有道理，呃，因为他只是在谈那些内容，不是不是那种，只是在谈观点文章。观点文章。对，对。所以常规新闻报道保持不变。嗯，这对他们的业务不利。我的意思是，你一遍又一遍地看到，人们就是，他们不想再听这些人说所有这些 [ __ ] 了。就像你，你，你说的东西，几乎就像是你被困在一种过时版本的病毒里，而其他所有人都已经对那种病毒免疫了。就像这是，对，你知道，比如你需要，你需要一种新的思想病毒，你正在推的那个，就像，它已经不起作用了，太疯狂了。对，呃，整个

事情非常疯狂。嗯，我是说，媒体极其党派化。我的意思是，他们不，呃，我，他们，几乎所有媒体都，嗯，向左偏移了。对。所以这有点奇怪，如果你和一个从比如我所说的传统媒体那里获取全部信息的人交谈，呃，他们生活在一个不同的世界里。对。呃，相比之下，如果他们，比如，正在听，你知道，呃，你的播客，或者，嗯，从 X 获取新消息，或者，你知道，只是，如果这，这就像，这，这有点疯狂，真的非常疯狂。比如你交谈，这，这就像他们生活在一个终极现实里。哦，我交谈过的很多人，我都不得不问，你从哪里听来的？对，对。呃，但我是说，比如美联社，我称之为联合宣传社，AP，嗯，你知道，他们他们

发布了一篇国际新闻报道，说我们，说 DOGE 解雇了空中交通管制员，但我们根本没有解雇任何空中交通管制员。事实上，我们正在努力招聘空中交通管制员，而不是解雇他们。对，我看到了，你发了一条推文谈这件事，对吧？对。你现在把它叫什么？你叫它帖子？帖子。对，随便吧。你不能把它叫推文了，不过你会不小心把它叫成推文吗？我不知道，听着，呃，但比如，如果你，如果如果有人，比如说，有人发帖，如果有人上传了一段，比如，你知道，2 小时长的视频，那不是一条推文，对吧？那是一个帖子。那是一个帖。对，说得好。对，对，当然。对，所以，嗯，但我热过，如果人们仍然想把它叫推文，随便吧。你发了一个帖子谈这件事，回到这件事上，说如果你，我们

需要高素质的空中交通管制员。如果你退休了，如果你愿意考虑再做这份工作，我们需要你。呃，对，所以，呃，很多真正优秀的空中交通管制员因为 DEI 那套东西被排挤走了。所以，嗯，我不是要把话说得太直白，我是说，一群年长的白人，一群真正优秀、有才华的年长白人男性被排挤走了，这不妥。嗯，所以我们的空中交通管制领域存在人才短缺，原因是 DEI，以及以及以及不，不按能力招聘，你知道，这居然能实行，实在太疯狂了。我认为我们我们不应该因为某种精神错乱的理念而让公众安全面临风险，你知道。今天有人发了一个帖子，说它渗透进了 NSA，你看到那些内容了吗？那真是些很骇人的东西。对，疯狂。

他们他们他们，一开始只是类似这种边缘事物，人们会聚在一起，然后它彻底渗透了这个机构，而他们把所有时间都花在那里，好像有 400 个人之类的，某种，某种聊天性爱聊天室，里面有一些极其精神错乱的东西。对，对，我，我知道，我看，我会把它发给你，杰米，因为它太古怪了。你，你，你，什么，这是 NSA。我以为 NSA 就只是负责，比如，信息和监视，你知道，比如，如果，比如，是国家威胁之类的。对，我觉得就是这个。嗯，所以她，呃，超过 100 名情报工作人员将因 NSA 聊天室中的露骨色情短信而被解雇，加巴德说。嗯，所以，所以最高情报官员告诉沃特斯，涉事工作人员肆无忌惮

并利用一个原本用于专业用途的 NSA 平台实施这种非常非常骇人的行为。呃，是什么行为？具体是什么？这篇文章里说了吗？呃，对，我觉得他们也，好吧，上面说，参与 n 的淫秽、色情和露骨色情聊天室的员工，你的税款就花在这上面。嗯，那全是类似 DEI 的东西，全是类似 LBGTQ 的东西，里面有很多类似性别转换的东西，而且，对，我，我知道，我肯定保存了它，但重点是，嗯，它已经渗透进了这个机构。这完全不是他们该谈论的事情，完全不该，完全不该。他们本该保护这个国家，对吧？而且如果你，而且人们说他们一半时间都花在这些会议上，而且他们就是

比如，不断不得不参加这些讨论这些问题的活动。比如，你们在做什么？比如，如果你和某个歧视别人的人有问题，就把那个人开除。就这样。对。这，你，问题解决了。你的企业里有人恐同，他们公开恐同。对，那你不能在这里工作，这不妥。就这样，就这样。你不必不断开 [ __ ] 会议来宣传这个。你不可能通过一遍又一遍地斥责某人来改变他的看法。对。我的意思是，工作环境应该是一个专业环境，在那里，你知道，他们，他们，他们把自己，你知道，你知道，领薪水去做的工作完成。呃，它显然不应该是那种用来

为离奇的 SE 性冒险买单，这实在太令人着迷了，病毒是如此强大，以至于它进入了 NSA，是的，而且当时——你会觉得那些是一些很强硬的——CIA 也一样，CIA 也在其中，是啊，他们也在其中，这简直荒唐，你会觉得同样，像是铁面无情、强悍的人在做艰苦的工作，他们随时想监视你就能监视你，是啊，是啊，而且随时想报复你就能报复你，是啊，相当疯狂，是啊，而且你知道，总统离任时，他们还留在那里，人们来来去去，而你整个职业生涯都一直是该组织的一员，你会深深扎根于他们的体系，了解事情如何运作、该去巴结谁，以及谁是坏人、谁是好人、谁站在我们这边、谁不站在我们这边，是啊，其实挺吓人的，是啊，嗯，所以

这就是这些爱泼斯坦文件拖了这么久的原因吗，是啊，这是怎么回事，到底是怎么回事，就像，是啊，这就像露西和查理·布朗之间那个橄榄球的情节，她总是把那个橄榄球抽走，一模一样，就像他们不断告诉我们，他们会在第一天公布，哦，第一天，我们得了严重的“没人被捕恐惧症”，你知道，嗯，而且还有，对吧，就像这[ __ ]到底是怎么回事，这[ __ ]到底是怎么回事，而且还有一种切实的担忧，担心有人正在销毁证据，而你不断听到这些故事，未经证实的故事，是啊，关于，你知道，FBI的人，那些证据在哪里，我是说，那家伙有成吨的视频，还有，呃，录音，是啊，我是说，他什么东西都有，对吧，就像有堆积如山的

证据，对吧，所以那座山在哪里，是啊，哪里，那座山在哪里，而他们同意这么做的理由会是什么，就像，要让他们同意不公布，里面肯定得有某种对他们有利的东西，对吧，就像肯定存在某种财务纠葛，某种与名单上那些人的关系，是啊，他们能提供一种足够大的价值，让你不公布它，或者慢慢公布它，或者希望你能靠放出一些什么都看不出来的涂黑文件蒙混过关，这只是涂红，涂黑，涂黑，只是第一阶段，别担心，真正的东西就要来了，就像这根本说不通，就像你为什么不直接全部公布，就像有什么，有什么东西可能非常值得在里面保护，我是说

我想我掌握的信息可能也一样，我是说，我只是在看X上最新有什么，你知道，我只是在看我的X动态，然后我就觉得，是啊，你知道，真是让人欲罢不能，嗯，而且就像，我原以为我们会从中得到一些重，重大披露，就像装满东西的大活页夹，里面肯定有东西，嗯，那些获赠副本的人全都在那里挥舞着它，他们拿到了《查理和巧克力工厂》的金奖券，是啊，是啊，完全是，是啊，然后发生了什么，什么都没有，什么都没有，所以我想劳拉·洛默把它发到网上了，我想我在看TW，是啊，她对此很不满意，所以有人在里面发现什么有意思的东西吗，没有，全都是2015年的旧东西，还有，好吧，到底他[ __ ]的发生了

什么，但，但后来显然，他们在纽约南区发现了一大堆东西，对吧，所以那就是，而且，而且，而且我就想，而且我，我认为，你知道，帕姆·邦迪其实很棒，卡什·帕特尔也很棒，但他们就像，他们才刚到那里，你知道，对吧，所以然后他们，他们不是在那里，他们才刚到那里，但他们身处一个敌对环境，并不是一个友好环境，对吧，嗯，所以，嗯，你知道，这就像你突然被安排当上一艘船的船长，但船员之前是你的敌人，对吧，全体船员之前都是你的敌人，对吧，你知道，而你告诉他们，把证据给我，是啊，船员不想把证据给你，你这个敌人，就在片刻之前，他们还像是你的死敌，你

才刚到那里，是啊，所以，是啊，我认为我们得对，嗯，你知道，嗯，司法部长和，你知道，FBI新任局长稍微宽容一点，因为他们确实才刚到那里，我也这么认为，但嘿，那就别说你会在第一天公布它，是啊，你不该那么说，当然，而且别说你明天会有一大批东西公布，结果却是些早就存在的[ __ ]，这让人失望，是啊，搞什么，还有JFK文件在哪里，那些在哪里，是啊，把它们放出来，他们在那方面公布什么了吗，我不知道怎么回事，还没有任何东西传到我这里，所以如果还没有任何东西传到我这里，那就不可能很重大，如果有阴谋的证据，就会有人发给我，没错，蒂姆·狄龙会给我发短信，100%

蒂姆·狄龙，戴夫·史密斯，会有人发给我的，theu，是啊，所以它还，它还没有公布，是啊，你会知道的，而真正的问题是，就像到了这个时候，那里面还能有什么是他们没有清理掉的，如果你有1963年的书面材料，就像里面还剩什么，里面还可能有什么能成为罪证的东西，据说特朗普说，如果你看到了他们给我看的东西，你也不会公布，好吧，这他[ __ ]的是什么意思，我没看过，所以卡谢尔看过，是的，他说他全都看过，是啊，嗯，他能不能直接发到自己的，比如X账号或什么地方，我是说，我只是，我们，那听起来像是埃隆会干的事，我觉得他不能，他是FBI局长，我觉得他必须通过适当的渠道，他是吗，他拥有这个渠道

我，是啊，但有规定，他听起来像特朗普，他听起来像特朗普，他需要一项行政命令，那风暴呢，我就是风暴，我是说，什么渠道，他就是渠道，嗯，再说一次，想象一下，才刚到船体，或者才刚到，呃，船的甲板上，而你是船长，是啊，而现在你，呃，你必须弄清楚谁在管事，谁在做这个，所有东西在哪里，是啊，嗯，是啊，光是把任何事办成，就像刚才说的，你，你才刚加入，成为一艘船的船长，而船员恨你入骨，是啊，他们是你的敌人，是啊，他们是你的敌人，他们强烈反对你想做的任何事，是啊，嗯，而你正试图向他们下命令，同时你还试图揭露他们，是啊，他们不想被揭露，对吧，你

你实际上，那些在那里工作的人很可能就是这个问题的一部分，我是说，我，我在X上读到，好像科米的女儿是纽约南区的首席检察官，你读到了吗，读到了，而且，而且就像，所以显然那里有一点纠葛，有一点，就像如果有什么东西，呃，你知道，会让，让她爸爸显得很糟，没错，她就是个[ __ ]碎纸机，按下那个删除按钮，你知道，你看过，呃，弗林将军吗，他上了一个播客，而他，他直接对詹姆斯·科米说话，是啊，他说，吉姆，你要坐牢了，除非你供出一个比你层级更深的人，而你知道那是谁，你知道我说的是谁，就像那太疯狂了，是啊，嗯，我认为这位FBI前局长可能真的深陷那种

严重的[ __ ]之中，而且他掌管FBI时确实在做一些邪恶腐败的[ __ ]，我是说，看起来一直有些非常可疑的事情在发生，嗯，看起来这些事在60年代肯定发生过，对吧，大家差不多都承认这一点，他们承认FBI，呃，杀害了黑豹党人，他们，他们做了很多[ __ ]，以前发生过很多事情，我们知道政府在很久以前确实做过，是啊，我们为什么不直接把文件数据倾倒出来，就直接进去，把所有文件，大概是纸质文件，嗯，全都拍下来，然后发到网上，然后，呃，就让CHS落到它们该落的地方，它大概是不是全都在某个，比如，文件柜里，我不知道，对吧，它在哪里，那个神奇的文件柜在哪里

他们是怎么把它藏起来的，谁有权访问它，就像这，这就是我原本希望第一天能看到的，我原本希望如此，但显然这花的时间比那长得多，所以我，我认为其中一部分就像，你知道，比如，比如说，比如说你被直接派到FBI，好吧，我也许能够，那才叫疯狂，简直了，你知道，他现在在做什么，他，他是theba的大人物之一，但他是个特勤局的人，是啊，是个靠谱的人，但人们把他当成一个福克斯新闻的人，就像皮特·赫格一样，同一回事，他们不愿想到他卓越的军旅生涯，他们想说，哦，那个福克斯新闻的人，联邦调查局副局长，我是说，丹很强硬，我是说，如果它，如果它是可以合理找到的，我认为他会找到它，这就是

在他和卡什之间，我是说，就像我认为他们会找到东西，要是他们找不到，那得多疯狂，要是他们什么都找不到，那得多疯狂，如果事情已经到了那种，如果，如果所有人都闭上嘴，所有人都遮住自己的屁股，就像一台FBI电脑，你在里面输入搜索内容，那就是，我，我只是想知道这里的基本机制，就像它要么以纸张形式放在某个文件柜里，就像，你知道，也许有逐级提升的安全级别，你知道，你就像，打开这扇门，哦，你必须有，你有这个级别的通行权限吗，你就像，级别已解锁，然后又有一个级别已解锁，接着就像，拿到他们的笔记本电脑，是啊，是啊，有一台笔记本电脑，你只能把它插上，它在一个SCIF里，是啊，这就是为什么，就像我认为，我认为，比如参观4 KNX

会很棒，比如现场直播参观诺克斯堡，我们真的可以看看，就像C到底在那里还是不在那里，他们说在那里，是真的吗，还是有人给一些铅喷了漆，你知道，想象一下如果不在，想象一下如果没有全都在那里，比如有一部分不见了，去哪儿了，要是有很多都不见了呢，要是比如一半都不见了呢，我是说，谁，我们到底怎么知道，我不知道，他们说上一次让人查看还是几十年前，是啊，嗯，上一次，我相信上一次正式审计是在50年代，所以我就像，好吧，哦，我的，只要想想所有其他的，也许，是啊，想想你指出的所有其他东西，所有那些，那些直接发出去的支票，那些给NGO的款项，那些领社会保障金的人，想想所有那些，就是所有那些，现在把那套情况应用到黄金上

绝对是。我只是想要，比如说，强调一下政府那种十足的疯狂。这，这只是因为他们有类似，嗯，“魔法货币计算机”的东西，所以他们的支票，所有支票，对联邦政府来说从来不会跳票。比如说，你不会有公司或个人会有的那种正常纠正机制。支票就是总能、总能、总能兑现。最终结果是通货膨胀，这实际上是对所有人征税。嗯，但是，呃，你知道，比如说，国防专业人士已经连续，我不知道多少年，没通过审计了。7年。对，我的意思是，没错。所以这就像是，你得是该死的查克·诺里斯才行，比如说，只有查克·诺里斯才能让国防部通过一道命令，你知道，就是这种情况。你需要的就是这种水平的能力，你——

知道，嗯，嗯，这正是如此疯狂的地方。如果你把它拉回到它是一门生意这个想法上，那么，是的，这在任何一种正常运转的企业里都绝不会被容忍。完全正确。所以，呃，你知道，嗯，你知道，五角大楼会，会，比如，比如他们的会计错误，比如那些，那些他们丢在沙发垫缝里的东西，每年大概是20、30 B 十亿美元。他们不知道，不知道它去哪了。没了。去哪了？而且它没了。这太疯狂了。太疯狂了。这太疯狂了。所以这就是为什么我说，比如说，即使只是一些简单的事情，比如只要求财政部计算机的对外付款要有一个付款代码、一条说明这笔付款是做什么的备注，以及一个可以就这笔付款联系的人，嗯，我认为这在阻止浪费性资金外流方面会产生非常强大的效果。

还有制止欺诈，是的。还有，换个角度来看，想象一下，如果世界上有一些像你和Doge团队这样的人，想象一下，其中某个人为像“us a”这样的组织，或者任何其他组织工作，并且知道其中牵涉了多少乱七八糟的勾当，但他们心怀恶意，而且几十年又几十年地与这个系统纠缠在一起，建立了自己的事业和随之而来的所有关系网，然后开始把[ __ ]转来转去。你可能很容易就能做到。照你所描述的方式来看，如果你是一个一直在那里工作的职业人士，知道一切如何运作，Y，而且你非常聪明，你就能搞出一些[ __ ]，而且你很可能可以和一些人联手做到，那些人……

你知道，正在成立一个非政府组织，嘿，我们大家一起合作。是的，是的，而这就是你正在面对的阻力。是的，我认为这是有史以来最大的骗局。这不是你见过的某种……有史以来最大的骗局。人类历史上的？人类历史上的，是的。哇。我觉得你说得对。是的，我……还能是什么，可能是一个1万亿美元的骗局。以前从来没有过1万亿美元的骗局。你知道，这并不是你曾经打算去做的事情，这不是……你没有把这当作职业理想。这不像是……这其实是我所能想象的最荒谬的结果。另外，Doge最初就像是一种……一种迷因币，对吧？你知道，它就像是一种涉及迷因和狗的玩笑加密货币。嗯。嗯，而且……非常好笑的是……

这些字母最后居然完美契合了。是的。嗯，其实我最初打算把它称为类似“政府效率委员会”的名字，这是个非常无聊的名字。嗯，然后网上的人说，不，它得叫“政府效率部”。呃，我当时就想，你知道吗，你们是对的。当然，当然，当然。我的意思是，这更能证明我们身处模拟之中，那个小小的……比如，一个吉祥物是一只可爱的狗，它是一种迷因币，这种迷因币现在可能值很多钱，对吧？就像你每次发推谈到它，它可能……我不知道……就会暴涨。是的，整个迷因币这件事太疯狂了。是的，太疯狂了，人们把真金白银投入这些币里，然后你就可以把它们炒高，再卖掉。就像赌场之类的，我不知道。

是的，这完全就是G……人们就是在做什么“更大的傻……”和抢椅子游戏，谁最后才坐下谁就输，诸如此类。不知怎么的，它居然仍然合法。就像，那就是……我觉得不……我觉得没有太多人……我的意思是，我的意思是，这有点像你去赌场。就像，如果你指望在赌场赢钱，那你就是在犯傻，好吧。所以我认为，如果你指望靠迷因币赢钱，你就是在……不是，你是在犯傻。是的，是的。你不可能在迷因币上赢钱。它就像，它……它……但如果、如果、如果你想，比如说，不要把你的毕生积蓄砸进一种迷因币里。不。但你可以小赌一点，你可以追着浪潮走，赢一点、输一点。如果、如果你想找点乐子，而且别来……那你知道，玩吧，和我一起玩……

币。但如果你把你的……如果你把你的……押在一种m币上，冒着说出一些大胆而离谱的话的风险，别把那个F押在一种m币上。奇怪的是那些拉高出货，就像人们一直这样，一直这样，而有人拉高出货后，人们还会感到震惊。你在干什么？你是不是觉得，我本来希望出货，我本来希望从这里面把所有钱都赚走，真不敢相信他们坑了我。就像，是的，它居然仍然合法，这很奇怪。呃，我的意思是，赌场IL合法，而人们就是会在赌场输钱，你知道，但你不能像操纵拉高出货那样操纵赌场。你可以操纵拉高出货，你知道。呃，是的，我想是这样。嗯，就像你可以运作一个真正的金字塔骗局。嗯，我的意思是，要我说，政府就是一个大型金字塔骗局。是的，嗯，你……

你可以看出，社会保障是有史以来最大的庞氏骗局，对吧？解释一下。哦，所以，嗯，人们把钱缴进社会保障，嗯，而这些钱立刻就从社会保障中支出去了，但社会保障承担的义务是，呃，你整个退休生涯。所以你……你在支付，呃，用你的……你在支付……就像、就像，如果你看社会保障未来要履行的义务，它远远超过，呃，税收收入，远远超过。你看过那个……那个……债务时钟吗？看过。好吧，有……有……有我们目前的债务，但接着还有我们未来要履行的义务。所以当你查看社会保障未来要履行的义务时，嗯，实际的，呃，国债大概是人们所认为的2倍，因为还有未来要履行的义务。啊，所以基本上……

人们的寿命比预期长得多，嗯，而且，呃，出生的婴儿更少了，所以退休的人更多，而他们会……会活很长时间，并领取退休金。所以未来要履行的义务……所以H……联邦政府目前的财政状况有多糟，未来就会糟糕得多。冒着在这里扫兴的风险，你看到了吗……所以我们最好把眼下的问题解决好，因为如果现在已经很糟，未来会糟糕得多。有一个对这名女举报人的采访，我们最后查清那是不是真的吗？吹响的哨子太多了，很难跟得上。很多哨子。这位女士……那只发生在一个州，是一个非常具体的事例，我相信，对吧？但它是……

在使用社会保障的钱，对吗？那是她……那是她的指控。所以她指控的是，她负责把，呃，非法移民变成“客户”，他们会这样称呼这些人，而她会去找他们，试着问他们：你头痛吗？你有背部问题吗？如果有，现在你就可以成为永久残障人士，你会获得永久残障福利。所以你终身都能领取社会保障？是的。是的，不只是社会保障，还有残障福利，甚至更多。对，而且他们立刻就靠纳税人的救济金生活。那m……而且他们是非法外国人。是的。哦，所以，如果要我说，比如说，为什么民主党的宣传机器如此激烈地想要摧毁我，其核心是什么，那就是主要原因。主要原因就是……

呃，是……嗯，呃，福利欺诈，其中包括像社会保障、残障福利、医疗补助。呃，针对非法外国人的福利欺诈，正形成一股巨大的磁力，把世界各地的人吸引过来，并把他们留在这里。就像，基本上，如果你……如果你付给人们的钱，呃，能让他们过上高于地球上90%人口的生活水平，那么你就会为地球上90%的人提供一个非常强大的，呃，来到这里并留在这里的诱因。但如果你……如果你终止非法外国人欺诈，那么你……你就关掉了那块磁铁，他们会离开，而且他们……他们会停止前来，而已经在这里的人当中，许多人会直接离开。而如果……如果那发生了，大规模的……他们将失去数量庞大的民主党选民，而如果那没有发生，他们就会把那些人变成选民。

没错，他们当时正试图这么做。他们已经在把他们……所以在……在纽约州，非法外国人已经可以在州和市级选举中投票。很多人并……并不知道这一点。那里有……我的意思是，他们正试图在……反对这件事，他们正试图阻止它，但目前就是这样。我想大概有600,000名，呃，被登记……据称可以投票的纽约非法外国人。这太疯狂了。是的，嗯……嗯，我的意思是，如果你看看，比如说，嗯，你知道，联邦紧急事务管理局，那个付钱让非法外国人入住纽约豪华酒店的机构，就是联邦紧急事务管理局。联……你知道，那本来……那是一个旨在帮助因自然灾害而陷入困境的美国人的机构，却在为纽约的非法移民支付豪华酒店费用。这是真的。是的。这是事实，事实。他们真的……

就像，当我们堵住那笔付款时，我们……我们停止了所有那些……那些钱，因为这显然是一种疯狂的纳税人资金使用方式。嗯，呃，纽约，呃，起诉了政府，起诉了联邦政府以拿到那笔钱。所以你可以直接去看他们的诉讼。他们当时给……他们当时仍在发送那笔钱，甚至是在特朗普总统签署行政命令说必须……必须停止之后，他们仍然按下了发送键，把8000万美元汇给纽约的豪华酒店。你的税款被一个旨在帮助因自然灾害而陷入困境的美国人的机构拿去，为纽约豪华酒店里的非法外国人买单。对，而且我想知道他们花了多少……而且我想知道他们在北卡罗来纳州花了多少，在毛伊岛花了多少。是的，完全正确。呃，什么……

实际发生的事情是，他们在收买选民，那才是真正发生的事。这就像……就像一个巨大的选民……骗局。他们正在引进选民，而且，呃，而且这真的只是时间问题。所以，比如说，很多人很难相信这一点，但如果你……你越深入查看，就越会意识到这问题到底有多严重，以及它……它……它不只是真实存在，这是一场摧毁美国民主的企图。在我看来，这就是它真正的本质。比如，如果你看那……那……那大约7个摇摆州，那里通常的胜选差距可能是大约20,000票。如果你在那里安置200,000名，嗯，非法移民，而他们投票给他们的可能性大概有80%，呃，而且他们成为公民只是时间问题，那么那些……

摇摆州未来将不再是摇摆州，而如果它们不再是摇摆州，我们就会成为一个永久的一党制国家，永久的，呃，深蓝社会主义州，这就是美国将会变成的样子，而那就是计划，那、那就是、那就是计划，那现在仍然是计划，而且他们差点就成功了，如果、如果、如果、如果那个、如果以卡姆傀儡为代表的机器赢了，那就是本来会发生的事。我之所以如此、如此、如此、如此强硬地支持特朗普，是因为对我来说，这是道路上的一个民间分岔，非常像一个非常明显的道路上的民间分岔。嗯，如果他们再有4年，他们就会让摇摆州里足够多的非法移民合法化，让摇摆州，呃，不再是摇摆州。他们就会，那些州之后就会成为蓝州。

然后他们就会、他们就会赢得总统选举，他们会赢得众议院、参议院和总统职位。嗯，然后他们会把，呃，特区，你知道的，华盛顿特区变成一个州，也、也许还有波多黎各，增加4名参议员，扩充最高法院，这样一来，众议院、司法机构、参议院，呃，还有总统职位就会全是蓝的，然后他们会继续引进更多非法移民，来巩固那个、那个结果，基本上就是加利福尼亚发生的事。天啊，那本来就全完了。这就是为什么我如此强硬地支持特朗普，否则就全完了，也正因如此，那个、那个、那个民主党机器才会如此执意要摧毁我。人们看不到这一点，实在太令人着迷了。我的意思是，我邀请人们自己去研究。他们研究得越多，就越会看到这一点。

我说的绝对是真的，D，这就像，只要去研究一下就知道了。是的，这是个非常糟糕的主意，即使对民主党人来说也是如此，而这正是他们不明白的地方。就像，这是一样的，最终不会有好结果。不，是同一批人。是的，只不过他们是在那些家伙手下做这件事，那些人是善良、富有同情心的进步派人士。是的，但结果还是一样。这一切就是为了控制。他们可能会推行某种中央银行数字货币、某种社会信用评分系统，当然还有审查。是的，当然。嗯，他们……这次选举前最大的 Fe 就是，如果他们无法审查内容，比如，嗯，我们以前谈过，但这条路上有2个重大岔口。最大的一个是特朗普没有中枪，y

另一个重大的岔口是你在 Twitter 旁边，如果这2件事没有发生，整个世界看起来都会不一样。是的。是的，我们不想处在那条时间线上。不，我们不希望只有一方得到代表，因为你猜怎么着，他们会劫持那一方，无论是哪一方，他们都会劫持那一方，并利用它来获取金钱和控制权，而这一切就是为了这个。这不是好人对坏人的问题，这是个[ __ ]骗局。是的，我，我是说，我认为这些事其实……如果你从基本激励因素来看，就很容易理解。这里的基本激励因素是，民主党人能引入的合法人士越多，他们获胜的可能性就越大，所以他们就会这么做。嗯，这就是他们一直在做的事。呃，而且这在加利福尼亚奏效了，加利福尼亚的绝对多数

民主党，嗯，再看看所有正在离开加利福尼亚的公司。是的。嗯，我是说，In-N-Out 刚刚宣布他们要离开，他们的总部要离开加利福尼亚，他们要搬到田纳西州。是的，是的。所以，嗯，而且加利福尼亚，呃，从去年开始为非法移民提供免费医疗。是的。所以，而且那显然会成为吸引更多非法移民的巨大磁石。比如，这不是一个仅靠钱就能解决的问题，因为实际情况是，病人的数量就是多到医生根本不可能全部接诊，而你不可能凭空变出医生来，你知道，就像……所以人们会说，哦，这只是钱的问题。不，你……一个人要成为医生需要很长时间，你知道，30年。嗯，而且，呃，所以加利福尼亚实际发生的情况是，那里有

太多病人，医生根本看不过来，所以，呃，加利福尼亚的普通公民会因此受苦。嗯，而加利福尼亚的精英阶层没事，因为他们有私人医生，你知道，他们有……他们可以直接花钱请最好的医生。所以加利福尼亚的精英阶层过得很好，但你，你这个加利福尼亚的普通公、公民过得并不好。嗯，而且，为非法移民提供医疗服务所造成的税收负担原本据说是30亿，我想他们现在估计是90亿，但那个……但那个，那个数字基本上会增长到无穷大。就像，为什么不呢？比如为什么不呢？如果你需要做任何手术，就来加利福尼亚免费做，对吧，从地球上的任何地方都可以。而那些想用最宽厚的方式看待这件事的人会说

哦，这些人是勤劳的好人，他们是我们城市的支柱，他们应该能够获得我们所能获得的一切，而我只是觉得他们不明白这是一枚政治棋子。我觉得他们不明白，这么做不是出于同情和善意。不，这么做只是为了确保它一直保持蓝色。没错。是的，而且本质上这是在用你的税款行贿。是的，这就是为什么，嗯，水坝甚至不会，嗯，驱逐罪犯。是的，嗯，因为每驱逐1名罪犯，就会失去1张选票。所以即使，即使某个人，呃，嗯，是有犯罪记录的非法移民，并且在美国犯罪，他们仍然，仍然不会被驱逐。然后除此之外，加利福尼亚实际上还规定，在人们

投票时要求出示身份证件属于违法行为。是的，在加利福尼亚和纽约，呃，你投票时不被允许出示身份证件。我只想把话说清楚，让所有人都明白这一点：在加利福尼亚、纽约，你不被允许出示身份证件，即使你自己想出示也不行。对吧，这怎么可能会是个好主意？我是说，什么……比如，如果你想，伙计，如果你试图做……如果你试图为选举舞弊提供便利，那这就是个绝妙的主意。这是唯一的理由。是的。Lally，为什么这会是个好主意，不会有任何其他理由。就是为了舞弊。这，这就像，就像，醒醒，她，醒醒，你好。比如说你想实施……你会做哪些事？是的，你会说你不需要身份证件，而且可以邮寄选票，我们还会给你免费医疗。是的，留在这里。是的，留在这里。我知道这里着火了

但留在这里。我是说，在这种情况下，加利福尼亚着火不只是一种比喻，好吗？简直就像该死的整个社区都被烧毁了。一旦他们，呃，允许在加利福尼亚不合法的人投票，一旦你……如果你，如果你打算那么做，那就结束了。正是如此。那就再也回不去了。人数就是……不。人们也被灌输了太多观念，有太多人无论如何都认为，投票给共和党就意味着你是个[ __ ]。是的。而他们不会那么做，他们不会那么做。他们会把他们那面[ __ ]彩虹旗挂在门廊上，然后就这样一路冲向海滩。文明自杀。是的，直接冲向礁石，砰，船撞毁了。我是说，呃，有个人，嗯，他在 X 上发帖，他……他

很棒，上帝，上帝那边。是的，我的一个朋友，他上过播客，punch times。是的，他很厉害。是的，他很棒。嗯，他谈到，呃，你知道，基本上就是自杀式同理心。嗯哼。比如，同理心多到让你实际上把自己弄死。是的。嗯，所以我们正在经历文明层面的自杀式同理心。这就像，我相信同理心，比如我认为你应该关心他人，但你需要对整个文明抱有同理心，而不是走向文明自杀。另外，不要让别人利用你的同理心来对付你，从而彻底控制你的州，然后把管理工作做得糟糕透顶，却永远不会被赶下台。西方文明最根本的弱点就是同理心，同理心漏洞。他们，他们

这，这是……他们正在利用西方文明中的1个，1个，1个漏洞，也就是同理心反应。所以，而且我，我，我认为，你知道，同理心是好事，但你需要把事情想透，而不是像机器人一样被编程。对。要明白同理心什么时候实际上已经被当成了1个……1件工具。是的。比如，这就是武器化的同理心。是的，这就是问题所在。是的，武器化的同理心。还有，是的，嗯，而且还有对那种自由派意识形态的僵化坚守。比如，你在那里不能转换阵营。比如在加利福尼亚，如果你属于整个科技界、好莱坞、娱乐业，任何，任何这些圈子，你就是左派，几乎全都是，几乎完完全全都是。在加利福尼亚做共和党人几乎处于违法边缘。呃，我是说，比如在旧金山或洛杉矶，做共和党人几乎处于违法边缘

你肯定会遭到排斥。不，你看，我是说，比如在旧金山，你，你，你可以一边注射海洛因，一边在市政厅前市长的车上拉屎，好吗，而那样……你什么事都不会有。但如果你戴着一顶 MAGA 帽走在街上，你就会遭到袭击。是的，太疯狂了。是的，太疯狂了。而且这也太奥威尔式了，一顶写着“让美国再次伟大”的帽子竟会让人产生暴力反应。比如，你难道不是美国人吗？难道……从整体上说，就这句口号本身，难道让美国再次伟大不是对所有人都有好处的事吗？但因为它与唐纳德·特朗普和那顶红帽子联系在一起，你戴着那顶红帽子就会被喷辣椒水。他们会通过殴打你让美国变得更糟。所以这就像，他们正在做一件邪恶的事，一场

发生在美国的暴力袭击，因为你想让美国再次伟大。我是说，这就像书里的一个场景，它看起来……看起来不可能荒谬到这种程度。比如还记得说“所有人的生命都重要”会让你丢掉工作吗？这太疯狂了，疯狂。有人因为说“所有人的生命都重要”而被解雇，而这是一句非常合理的话。这有多合理？是的，这基本上就是说每个人都重要。但那不是……从字面上看，你说的全部内容就是这个。那不是你应该说的话。你必须说“黑人的生命很重要”，当然，黑人的生命确实重要。如果你说“所有人的生命都重要”，就是每个人都重要。是的。但建立一个不以肤色看人的社会这一理念，大约在2012年前后某个时候被彻底抛弃了。是的，我是说，我，我大致可以追溯到……什么时候，那个，那个，那个……

枪支表情符号是什么时候被削弱的，你知道，呃，它是什么时候变成水枪的？那是几年前了，我想大概是2016年。是吗？是的，是的，它变成了水枪。你能在 X 上把它改回来吗？是的。不，不，现在如果，如果，如果你，呃，在 X 上使用枪支表情符号，Apple 会坚持让它显示成一把水枪，然后 X 应用会把它重新变成，呃，一把 1911。哦，真的吗？是的。哦，那太棒了。所以你可以，你确实可以，呃，你知道，显示，显示一把 1911 手枪。嗯，我们，我们，我们在应用内部撤销了 Apple 的改动。哦，那太好笑了。那太好笑了，那东西竟然这么冒犯人，那把枪，然后还有怀孕男人，这两个都让我觉得，比如你[ __ ]。我是说，我喜欢那个迷因，大意是，那些告诉你你听到的内容是虚假信息的人，正是同一批人

就是那些做出了“怀孕男人”表情符号的人。是的。对。想想看。对。还有，同一批人说一名女子袭击了一座 Tesla 工厂。对，那个“女子”其实是个男的，是个男的，明显得不能再明显了，一个体型非常大的精神有问题的男的。对，一个戴着假发、精神有问题的男的。就这么说。是的。对。但 NBC 甚至还……你明明看着那张照片，却说是“一名女子”。哟，这个，这，这就是个下颌线不对的男的，好吗？他戴着一张女人的脸，是个壮汉，是个壮汉。对，是个戴着女人脸的壮汉。我的意思是，拜托，那不是，那不是女人。对。而他们还在说，“小心虚假信息。”我就想，你们在说什么？太疯狂了。这是[ __ ]。我的意思是，这不过是这个病毒存在的更多证据，对吧？它扼杀了客观性，扼杀了现实，而且

它，它要求人们严格遵从，否则你就会受到攻击。对，对。任何对它的质疑，呃，都会导致，导致被排斥。你会不会觉得……你觉得自己负有什么样的责任，就是知道如果你当初没有接管 Twitter 并把它变成 X，如果那没有发生，比如，我真的认为现在的世界会大不一样。你拥有它多久了？基本上有几年了。想，想象一下，这几年它一直按以前的方式运营，而且可能还在加速发展。我的账号肯定早就被封了。对，肯定会。对，就因为那些虚假信息。对。嗯，特朗……永远都不会回来。亚历克斯·琼斯肯定也永远不会回来。绝对不会。不，不。嗯，所以，对。嗯，这会让你感到沉重吗？

就好像我会觉得，那会是一份[ __ ]沉重的责任，是的，嗯，我的意思是，我只是想让文明在这里延续下去，你知道，延续得更久，嗯，所以，嗯，我认为我们至少想在火星上建造一座城市，嗯，并成为一个多重文明，呃，我认为这对于确保文明的长期存续会极其重要。你还在营救那些被困在空间站里的人吗？呃，是的，那会在2周后进行，我想。哇，他们已经在那里待多久了，Jamie？他们本来应该只在那里待几天，对吧？我觉得实际上大概是4周。哦，他们本来应该，他们本来应该在那里待大约8天，是的，而他们已经在那里待了大概，我想有8个月了，所以稍微久了一点。

比预期的久。[ __ ]，是啊。那些人回来时会是什么样？他们会有很长一段时间状态糟糕，对吧？是的，如果你在那里待那么久，你就会，你知道，算是在零……状态中，骨质流失会加剧。所以，嗯，这件事最后变成了一个政治皮球，嗯，也是一个争论得相当激烈的话题。嗯，我们提出提前把他们接回来，这个提议被拜登政府出于政治原因拒绝了。为什么？这太疯狂了。我觉得他们绝不可能让任何支持特朗普的人看起来、看起来不错。哇。你觉得如果他们赢了，他们会怎么做？呃，那就把那些人接回来。不，他们只能用、用SpaceX的航天器把他们接回来，但他们、他们把返回日期推迟到了……之后。

呃，就职典礼日期。哇。是的。所以他们本来会让你做，但要在那之后。哇。所以那就会是由他们授权你去做。没有其他任何人能、能、能做这件事。NASA接不了他们。呃，只有、只有SpaceX的龙飞船，它是唯一被认为足够安全、可以把他们接回来的飞船。所以NASA认定波音的航天器不安全。因此他们才被困在那里。我的天，[ __ ]。是啊。你不能请俄罗斯帮忙吗？那会有点尴尬。有一点。是啊，是啊。如果他们真帮忙，那倒是件好事。他们说，伙计们，会帮助你。我觉得只要钱给得够，他们会帮。你这么认为？呃，是的，但他们显然会把这当成一次宣传胜利，并收取高得离谱的费用。他们竟然会把这件事用作一种政治……真是令人恶心。

工具。是的，嗯，是的，嗯，所以，拜登政府当时也在起诉SpaceX。呃，他们针对SpaceX提起了这场巨额诉讼，理由是SpaceX没有雇用寻求庇护者，对吧？所以、所以有人会说，比如，哦，埃尔是在编造，这个V政府并没有针对SpaceX。我就说，老兄，司法部对SpaceX提起了一场巨额法、法律诉讼，理由是SpaceX没有雇用寻求庇护者，尽管我们雇用、雇用任何非永久居民的人都是违法的。所以，这既有一项法律规定你必须雇用寻求庇护者，但也有一项法律规定，任何被火箭公司雇用的人，因为那属于先进武器技术，都必须是永久居民，而寻求庇护者并不是永久居民。所以这既合法又违法……

寻求庇护者。那么维恩政府为什么要发起一场巨额诉讼？再说一次，这是公开信息，并不是我的想象。嗯，他们为什么要发起、要针对SpaceX提起如此巨额的诉讼？他们极具敌意。完全说不通的是，如果这件事既违法，而你又试图强制执行它，它怎么可能甚至通过某个人第一天的审查。比如，你不能强制执行它。是的，这是一家先进武器公司。这太疯狂了。应该像这样：把这个扔出去。事实上，有一个类似《国际运输与武器条例》的东西，是一项旨在确保只有美国永久居民才能在先进武器公司工作的法律。火箭是先进武器。呃，所以……

同样的道理也适用于，比如核技术，或者，你知道，某种类似，你知道，生物武器之类的东西。嗯，因为很明显，如果某人在贝西克工作，然后离开并前往朝鲜或伊朗，他们可能会制造导弹技术，而那可能会，呃，你知道，摧毁美国。所以这就是为什么你不被允许雇用那些是永久居民的人。合乎逻辑，基本的逻辑，合乎逻辑。所以那场诉讼还在审理中吗？我当时……它刚刚被驳回。它持续了多久？几年。我的天，[ __ ]。是的。还有一件让我抓狂的事，就是人们不明白，如果你认可那样的劳韦尔，如果你认可攻击你的政治敌人，总会有人也对你这么做。比如，如果错误的人上台执政……

是的，如果4年后、8年后有新人下台，谁知道那会是谁，你已经开创了一个先例。你已经攻击过某个人，以34项重罪指控他，而那些实际上只是轻罪，并且已经超过诉讼时效。现在你又在所有新闻中说，这是一个被定罪的重罪犯，被定罪的重罪犯。他们不停地说，被定罪的重罪犯，被定罪的重罪犯，而所有人都知道这是怎么回事。是的，这很可怕。很可怕。他们竟然能如此明目张胆地对待一个当过4年总统的人，对吧？嗯，那场诉讼是由里德·霍夫曼资助的，呃，他是一位主要的该死的捐助者，也是一名FD和客户。[音乐]呃，情节变复杂了，情节变复杂了。天啊。是的，这就是、这就是如此明目张胆，这……

比如，太明显了。SpaceX诉讼、特朗普那些事，就是、就是太明显了。是的。比如那些已知的FC客户，嗯，他们显然权势极大，嗯，他们在政治上有权势，而且非常富有，嗯，是，你知道，布莱特，嗯，比尔·克林顿和里德·霍夫曼，还有另外一些人，2个，但就是那3个。所以，你知道，为什么里德·霍夫曼如此执意要摧毁特朗普？你觉得是因为他们担心名单被公开吗？是的，这是原因之一。是的。所以我的意思是，我就想，这真是，你知道，是的。所以坐在这种处境里真的太令人沮丧了，名单没有被公开。好吧，它最好公开。我的意思是，希望明天可能会。好吧，我是说，他们今天为什么发布[ __ ]？我不知道。给这些人一个快乐文件夹，让他们在镜头前挥来挥去。

里面没有任何新东西，这毫无道理。这并不令人鼓舞。呃，就像我说的，他们面临的棘手之处是，你知道，他们被任命为一艘船的船长，而船员充满敌意，对吧？对，对。所以他们没有，比如，你并不是拥有某种魔法力量。你被任命为一艘三倍的敌对船员的船长，你仍然面对敌对的船员，对吧？嗯，你必须引进那些会对你有所帮助，而不是成为阻、阻挠者的人，对吧？嗯，所以，嗯，不过，是的，我认为如果FC客户名单没有任何人被起诉，一个人都没有，公众会感到相当沮丧。你也不知道，比如，是，你知道，至少我不知道，排名前5的或者类似的人，某个数量应该、应该……

至少应该尝试起诉最恶劣的违法者。尤其是如果加兰·麦克斯韦尔因为性贩运而入狱。是的，因为，比如，确实发生了贩运，性贩运，对吧？所以她当时、她现在正因此坐牢。是的。那么客户是谁？是啊，是啊。你怎么能把某个人关进监狱，却连客户的名字都不公布？这听起来有点疯狂。我认为，是的，这、这、这会，是的。令人震惊的是，他们竟然能压住这件事这么久。真的有点不可思议。比如，当人们说人们保守不了秘密时，你[ __ ]在说什么？看看这个。是的。我的意思是，这些事情中有很多并不是，比如，它、它是众所周知的，但我们只是、我们实际上没有证据，对吧？嗯，所以证据就在那里。我的意思是，有很多……

视频。嗯，是的，有很多。我的意思是，老兄，那就像一座山。比如，每当他们突袭芬的住处时，应该会有堆积如山的证据。那座山在哪里？对吧？你们怎么处理它了？是的。比如，是谁接管了证据？是的，具体来说，对吧，那些个人。录像带在哪里？是的。我要取得多少级权限才能进入保险库？是啊，好吧，是啊，是啊。嗯，你知道，我们需要的是那些非常擅长使用计算机的人。哦，是的。记得看到这张照片，那是他们突袭他住所的时候。他们当时……那是他们在岛上，他们当时在那里。是的，他们拿走了所有东西，我敢肯定。我的意思是，那座岛上一定有太多东西了，一定有。而如果它不在……

那里，那它在哪里？是的，什么，你知道，它肯定被上传到了某个地方。肯定存在某种证据链。是的，或者保管链。那里肯定有堆积如山的、的证据。是的。嗯，他们还要谈论的另一件事是，呃，UAP。他们会公布所有UAP信息。所以你是应该问的那个人：有没有任何可能，存在某种正在秘密研发的先进推进系统技术，而他们正试图用这些关于外星人、外星技术以及并非来自这个世界的说法来掩盖它？有没有可能存在某种非常秘密的项目，正与一些国防承包商串通进行，而他们正在开发自己使用的先进推进系统？

对于这些无人机，呃，我是说 SpaceX，嗯，你知道，我的公司 SpaceX 拥有世界上最先进的火箭技术，我想我应该知道，对吧，嗯，而且据我所知，那里没有任何魔法，并不存在什么超级先进的推进技术。有人提出过不同的引力驱动理论以及不同的……有什么东西曾经超越理论阶段吗？没有，什么都没有。嗯，甚至据我所知，也没有任何在理论上行得通的东西。并不是说我不……我，我希望这种东西存在，说清楚，我希望这种东西存在。嗯，而且我拥有……我，我，我从安全许可的角度来说，拥有最高、最高机密权限，有、有……我拥有的权限相当于安全许可方面的全权限通行证，所以，呃……

我，我……我不认为他们基本上是在对我隐瞒这件事。我不认为他们……他们能做到，嗯，除非它完全掌握在这些武器制造企业手里。我是说，我了解这些武器制造公司，比如博因、拉基·图·诺瑟。我是说，是的，他们确实会做一些有意思的东西，但是，呃，他们没有……我……他们没有取得任何突破，所以我确信他们没有取得突破。当你听到人们说，比如，比如为什么不直接与 SpaceX 竞争，制造出更好的火箭？这样的话，你知道，他们可以制造……为什么他们不去通过用更好的火箭击败 SpaceX 来赚，嗯，很多钱？我的想法是，假如它只是一架无人机，而你不能让生物实体待在里面，因为它会因为那种[ __ ]速度直接爆裂呢？

以那样的速度移动，人类承受不了那么大的力，所以它们只是无人机。我不这么认为。那你怎么看像瑞安·格雷夫斯、大卫指挥官这样的人？我希望很酷的东西存在。比如说，我希望不明飞行物存在吗？是的，我希望不明飞行物存在，因为那会非常有趣。当然，大家都希望。对，那会很酷。如果不明飞行物不存在，或者像飞行的先进推进技术之类的东西不存在，这个世界就会更加无聊。如果它不存在，那就更无聊了；如果它确实存在，我觉得会更有趣。我希望它存在。我希望我们能发现些什么，但我还没见过。比如说，SpaceX将所有卫星质量的90%发射到了轨道上，所以如果把地球上所有的，呃，火箭，地球上所有的火箭发射机构算在一起，

我的公司占地球市场份额的90%，中国大约占5%，世界其他地区，包括波音、洛克·诺斯以及所有其他公司，占5%。所以他们为什么不用这个来击败SpaceX？对，对，会啊。不，听着，这就是我问你的原因，这说得通。你觉得这些人看到的是什么？每两天一枚火箭。但当你遇到像大卫·弗雷弗指挥官这样可靠的人时，你觉得这些人看到的是什么？他在圣迭戈海岸外经历了那次臭名昭著的TikTok，呃，“Tic Tac”事件，他们拍下了这个东西的视频，还追踪到它在大约1秒内从海拔50,000英尺降到50英尺。好吧，对，对。然后他们还有这个东西高速加速的视频证据，以及来自2架不同

喷气式飞机上的目击者证词。当然。嗯，我是说，我们能不能，有没有人拍到这个东西的高风险视频或照片？有一段这个东西的视频，他们锁定了它，然后它飞走了，射出了画面。不，不，那就像是他们2004年在战斗机上使用的某种系统，可能就像Windows 95。我是说，有人画过一条曲线，比较不明飞行物的分辨率和相机的分辨率；尽管像素数和相机性能变得，你知道，超级高，不明飞行物的分辨率却一直保持不变。好吧，据克里斯托弗·梅尔说。为什么它们还是模糊的？曾在国务院工作过的克里斯托弗·梅兰说，他们有这些东西的高分辨率照片和视频，而且他都看过，只是全被锁起来了。每当有人对我这么说，我就会觉得，根本别

告诉我，那就别说，除非你有，否则看在上帝的份上直接泄露出来吧，把它公布出来，就像让它不小心流出来。是的，对。呃，我是说，有几张照片，它们颗粒感很重。我从来没看到过任何一样东西，会让我说：“我靠，[ __ ]，就是这个，这就是我一直在找的东西。”你现在就可以让我们的Gro AI生成一张外星飞船在，呃，你知道，奥斯汀上空的高分辨率图像。对，而且它会做得非常好。所以为什么我们连那种东西都没有呢？对，但问题是我想相信。我的大脑开始想，哦，得了吧，这一点都不好玩。我希望它是真的。我希望至少存在某种先进推进系统；如果不是，那这些人看到的到底都是什么？比如，如果我们不是偶尔会被聪明到

足以隐藏自己的东西造访的话。我们可能正在被造访，只是这些外星人非常低调。对，你一直这么说，这是句很不错、不错的话。我是说，这是句站得住脚的话，因为它相当准确。我只是想看看外星人的高分辨率视频，比如它们到底是怎么避开所有摄像头的？如果你仔细想想，而那些确实拍到它们的画面，也就只是某个移动方式很奇怪的远处光点，而且它可能是很多种东西。但我想相信。对，我是说，我是说，已经有过很多次，嗯，你知道，空军和海军打电话给SpaceX，说他们，他们，他们觉得自己看到了外星人，而我们就问，是在这个时间、这个州、这个地点吗？他们说，是。你们怎么知道？那是我们的东西。这样的事发生过很多次。那是我们的卫星。

那些是我们的卫星。他们说，不，不是。我说，对，对，它们绝对是我们的卫星。哦，对，人们经常看到SpaceX卫星嗖嗖飞过。对，它们是我们的卫星，而且它们正以，你知道，每小时16,000英里的速度移动，所以相当快。嗯，而且美国政府确实也有一些东西会被误认为不明飞行物。我记得我第一次看到隐形轰炸机时，我们正在拍摄《Fear Factor》，那大概是，呃，2003年之后不久，就在战争爆发之后不久，他们当时正在帕姆代尔上空驾驶一架隐形轰炸机。我当时想，我靠，[ __ ]，如果我不知道那是什么，我会100%认为它来自另一个世界。当你看到酷炫的[ __ ]时。很酷。对，真的很酷。我是说，它看起来并不

像是人类的东西，它看起来像来自《Battl Star Galactica》的某种东西，你知道。确实看起来很像。对，它确实看起来很棒。嗯，我是说，顺便说一句，它们面对任何先进雷达系统都不是隐形的。那不起作用了。那不起作用了？不，是老派的东西吗？它们，它们只对，呃，老式雷达隐形。哦，好吧。我是说，你仍然能看到它们，比如它们又不是真的看不见。对，对。它们不像是，哦，这又不像，你知道，呃，《星际迷航》里的隐形装置。你看到我和莱克斯，呃，我们在火箭被接住的当下看了现场直播吗？对我来说，那是最酷的[ __ ]事情之一，能亲眼看到它真的发生。我看过它发生的视频，但能看到它真的现场直播，是最酷的[ __ ]事情之一。你会想，

哇，我们身处未来，对吧？我是说，没有其他人能做到。对，确实，没有其他人能做到。这是事实。对，这太疯狂了。这是因为我是外星人。是时候了，你……我是外星人，而且我一直试着告诉人们我是外星人，但他们不相信我。我相信你。好，谢谢。我相信你。我一直以来的怀疑就是你……我正在努力回到我自己的星球。……你是个友好的外星人。外星人没什么不好的，我喜欢来自各地的人。对，甚至包括其他星球的人。接下来是什么？比如现在你能做到这个了，你能接住火箭了，火箭技术的终极表现是什么？比如这之后会是什么？嗯，我是说，我们在SpaceX力求实现的根本性突破，是一种完全且快速重复使用的轨道

火箭，其两个级都能完全且快速重复使用。我们的猎鹰火箭能够重复使用主级和整流罩，但我们，我们无法重复使用上面级。嗯，而且从主级着陆到我们能够再次发射，仍然需要，你知道，至少几天时间。所以它，它并不，它并不，它，它并不，它不是完全可重复使用的，因为我们会损失上面级，呃，它的制造成本是1,000万美元。而且，嗯，然后，然后主级，它不像飞机那样可以重复使用。你不能只是给它加满燃料就再次飞行，它需要，嗯，进行几天的作业。嗯，但星舰的设计是首个有能力实现完全且快速重复使用的设计，这是可能的结果之一。嗯，一旦

你实现了完全且快速的重复使用，进入太空的成本就会降低100倍。就像便宜了100倍。嗯，按照某些衡量标准，会便宜1,000倍。而且，嗯，然后当你把，呃，轨道加，加注考虑进去，也就是在轨道上加注，呃，它能让前往火星的成本，让抵达火星表面每吨的成本降低10,000倍。哇。对。那么要改进什么，才能让它可重复使用？嗯，嗯，我们需要……有一些……比如我们已经相当接近能够快速重复使用星舰助推器了。嗯，这就是为什么，你知道，它会返回并被机械臂接住，然后机械臂把它放回发射台。所以，嗯，现在仍然，你知道，嗯，我们有一点发动机损伤，也有一点隔热罩损伤。

嗯，还有，呃，比如还有些地方需要调整，但，但是，但是我们已经相当接近实现助推器的完全且快速重复使用了。嗯，飞船方面，我们，我们……我是说，我，我认为今年我们会实现飞船的重复使用。嗯，我认为明年我们会实现整个组合，也就是飞船和助推器的快速重复使用。嗯，这是让生命成为多行星物种所需的根本性突破。那么，要让它可重复使用，需要改进什么？比如它现在有什么问题？呃，在飞船这一侧，最棘手的问题是隔热罩。所以没有，没有人真正做到过，没有人开发出完全可重复使用的轨道级隔热罩，因为当你，当你以轨道速度再入时，你就像一颗燃烧的

流星，就像一个猛烈燃烧的火球。嗯，要让隔热罩在这个过程中不会部分熔化或被摧毁，是很难的。嗯，你知道，这是我们没能用Falcon 9解决的问题，所以它的上面级，呃，会在再入时烧毁。嗯，对于星舰，飞船的，飞船的，那，那一部分，你有助推器，也有飞船。嗯，我们必须解决制造完全可重复使用的轨道级隔热罩这一问题，这是一个以前从未被解决过的问题。嗯，有一阵子我会想，我不确定这在目前是否有解。我认为它确实是有解的。嗯，这需要对隔热瓦进行细致的迭代。嗯，而且，我是说，我们已经把隔热瓦的制造垂直整合了，因为没有供应商

能够为我们提供所需的材料，所以，嗯，你基本上需要制造这种由玻璃和氧化铝纤维构成的、非常精细的维雷利，嗯，氧化铝基本上就是蓝宝石，所以就像是玻璃和蓝宝石的极细纤维，以完全正确的几何结构排列，嗯，并带有特殊涂层，嗯，以便让这块隔热瓦能够重复使用，嗯，比如不会熔化，嗯，但又不能脆到会在上升或下降过程中损坏，嗯，比如它不能像，你知道，它有点几乎像咖啡杯那种脆度，嗯，而火箭抖得要命，所以这东西就这样，就像你亲眼看到的那样，比如想象你就在那枚火箭的正下方，比如当你在大约 5 英里

之外时，你都能感受到它抖得有多厉害，想象一下如果你就在那里，你知道，所以你在让这些像咖啡杯一样脆的东西经受震动，同时又试图不让它们开裂或破碎，嗯，然后还不能让它们熔化，嗯，你有好几千，好几千个这样的东西，嗯，你知道，只要其中哪怕几个坏了，它就无法重复使用，所以 SpaceX 是否正在材料技术方面进行创新，你们是不是一直在努力寻找和调整出一个更好的版本，是的，这是个非常困难的问题，不，这是一个从来没有人解决过的问题，所以我们必须得到完全正确的，嗯，材料组合，嗯，让正确的分子呈现正确的形状，然后把那些，把隔热罩完美地安装到火箭上，不能有任何错误，嗯，这是有原因的

以前没有人解决过这个问题，这是个非常困难的问题，所以，嗯，就像我说的，我们不得不垂直整合隔热瓦的整个制造过程，从基础原材料一直到成品隔热瓦，嗯，重建，比如从基础原材料开始建立整条供应链，所以你只要投入，呃，硅，呃，硅和氧化铝。你们的做法和过去为航天飞机制造隔热瓦的做法有什么区别？呃，我是说，航天飞机，嗯，比如航天飞机前缘，呃，使用的是相当致密的 Caron Caren 隔热瓦，比如，它们基本上又厚又重，呃，但也容易开裂。就像当时发生的是泡沫脱落，然后撞上隔热瓦，把隔热瓦撞裂了，接着在再入时，那块开裂的

已经开裂或破损的隔热瓦，呃，无法保护航天飞机，于是等离子体进入，熔化了主体结构，整个、整个航天飞断裂了。是的，所以你基本上不能，不能使用像航天飞机隔热瓦那么脆的东西，你知道，很脆。那有影像，对吧？是的，是的，嗯，呃，而且残骸像雨一样落遍了整个美国。所以，是的，而且他们找回了几乎所有碎片。嗯，完整的、完整的技术解释，我认为正在收听的人里大约有6个人能理解。嗯，比如，航天飞机隔热瓦包含许多出色的工程设计，嗯，而且、而且、而且、而且有相当一部分隔热层甚至不是隔热瓦，实际上是，呃，二氧化硅毯

比如，你知道，嗯，本质上是毡毯。嗯，如果你仔细看，就会发现实际上，呃，它们实际上是隔热毯，不是、不是隔热瓦，在、在某些区域。嗯，但、但是它们会有隔热瓦开裂，而且偶尔会有隔热瓦脱落。有过几次险情，呃，隔热瓦脱落了，但它们并不处在航天飞机上极其脆弱的位置。嗯，所以，但每次飞行之间，他们要花、要花几个月，比如8、9个月来翻修一架航天飞机。所以它、它、它其实并不能重复使用，嗯，而且当然也做不到快速复用。所以，嗯，就像我说的，这是个非常困难的问题。呃，你必须，你还必须以一种方式把隔热瓦大致固定上去，使得，嗯，下面的结构能够

移动，呃，膨胀和收缩。啊，嗯，尽管上面有这些非常坚硬的隔热瓦。嗯，所以，比如主要的、这些储罐在装入低温推进剂时，会在你加入低温推进剂后收缩，但随后当你进入并变得非常热时，它们又会膨胀。所以现在你是在扩大，你是在缩小和扩大这些坚硬隔热瓦之间的缝隙。但幅度有多大？呃，取决于你在、在、在飞行器上的什么位置。所以如果你处于，嗯，如果你处于低温储罐段，比如，我是说，你能看到缝隙有大约10、20%的差异。真的吗？这很显著。是的，这意味着你不能只是把所有隔热瓦，你不能只是把隔热瓦硬塞在一起。如果你把它们放得太，如果你真的

把、把它们顶在一起，嗯，它们都会开裂，因为移动幅度太大了。还存在一定程度的箭体弯曲，所以当飞船，比如在上升时，呃，你知道，当发动机转向时，会有一点移动。嗯，所以如果隔热瓦靠得太近，它们、它们基本上就会直接裂开并折断。就像你必须留有缝隙，就像飞机，是的，就像飞机机翼会移动。是的，飞机机身也会移动。哇。而且你必须留出一些缝隙，但如果缝隙太大，那么热量就会、会到达，你知道，会越过隔热瓦，并且，呃，熔化结构。我的天，[ __ ]，这很难。这些隔热瓦有多大？我是说，它们大概有那么大。就这么大？嗯，它们并不全都大小完全相同，但是

是的，我们大致采用六边形隔热瓦，而且它们基本上必须是这样。你不能，比如用3D打印把整个东西打印出来，你不能使用一个整体结构，它必须由隔热瓦组成，因为它必须具备那种移动能力。嗯，没有3D打印机能做到，我是说，最大的可能也就大约3et，你知道，没有，你没法，你无法把它打印出来。你也不会那么做。它必须是能够移动的东西，对吧？呃，它必须能够弯、能够弯曲。嗯，比如说，你既有膨胀又有收缩。嗯，你真的是在 D，比如你，你知道，你，嗯，你正在注入液氧，它大约是 likeus 300° 华氏度。嗯，实际上我们会把它过冷到，你知道，- 330 华氏度。嗯，所以它非常冷，然后它会达到几百华氏度，可能是 th000 华氏度，嗯，在再入时

所以你会经历如此巨大的温度变化，因此热膨胀相当显著，而且整个，你既有热膨胀和收缩，又有箭体弯曲。所以你必须考虑最坏情况下的箭体售卖和热胀冷缩。这是个非常困难的问题。是的，是的，非常微妙的平衡。但你有信心你们现在能够攻克它吗？我、我、我确信它是可以解决的。是的，它只需要经历一定数量的版本。这就是为什么这些东西爆炸时，你会说，是的，我们预料它们会爆炸。是的。真正对我们很有帮助的是把飞船弄回来，嗯，这样我们就能研究哪些地方，比如，哪些地方的隔热瓦开裂或脱落了，为什么，为什么会这样，你知道，为什么我们会有一块开裂的所有 L 隔热瓦

是因为隔热瓦之间的缝隙可能太大、太小，也许隔热瓦之间存在高度差，嗯，也许我们需要改变化学成分。嗯，你知道，有，我们只是希望，如果能把这艘该死的飞船完整地弄回来，我们就能更好地迭代。嗯，我们会把它完整地弄回来。嗯，所以我认为我们今年会把它完整地弄回来。嗯，但这，这就是为什么我认为我们，我们大概会在今年某个时候回收飞船，然后，嗯，我们也许能在今年年底前让其中一艘再次飞行，但可能需要做相当多的工作。不过我们需要经历许多次迭代，才能实现快速复用，让飞船返回、着陆，像助推器一样被机械臂接住，然后可以，接着由机械臂把它放到

助推器顶部，然后它再次发射。哇。所以就像我说的，那会，你知道，把进入太空的成本降低100倍。让这些被困在空间站里的人返回，其过程是什么？嗯，我们，我们，我们，我是说，我们一直都在把 SpaceX 龙飞船送往空间站，而且我们，嗯，现在已经把人送入轨道并带回来，一共运送了超过50人，超过、超过50名宇航员。所以只要去做就行了。是的。那是不是要等我们通常就是这么做的。这并不是一个，我们，我们已经这样做了几年。所以这次救援任务什么时候发射？嗯，是的，可能大约，嗯，嗯，大约4周左右。取决于天气和其他因素，呃，大约，还有大约1个月。嗯，那肯定会是，呃，我相信

对那些被困在上面的可怜人来说，这是个值得欢迎的时刻。所以，所以这有点像一个政治皮球，所以他们不会抱怨。嗯，不，我相信他们是皮球，但显然我们，我们本来可以早得多把他们带回来。那太[ __ ]离谱了。那么让我们，假设你已经越过了达到这些规模的阶段，你拥有一艘可重复使用的飞船。是的。而且你已经把它调校好了，那么接下来有哪些步骤，之后的下一步是什么？是不是先进行一次无人驾驶的火星航程？先进行无人飞往火星。嗯，地球和火星的轨道每2年同步一次，嗯，严格来说是每26个月一次。所以，嗯，下一次轨道同步是在明年11月。所以你大致可以在前后1个月内发射。因此我们必须在11月或12月发射

也就是明年。所以默认计划是在明年年底向火星发射，希望是数艘星舰。它们会做什么？嗯，首先我们只会尝试在火星着陆，看看能否成功着陆。嗯，我们是否能成功着陆，比如说我们能够发射5艘飞船，是不是5艘都能完好着陆，还是我们会，呃，给……增加几个陨石坑？嗯，如果我们增加了几个陨石坑，那在送人过去这件事上就必须更加谨慎，你知道，而且我们需要，所以我们必须确保这东西能安全着陆。它怎样在火星上着陆？呃，用火箭，鲁斯。所以它就直接着陆？哦，我们会加上着陆腿。好的。它会直接着陆并配有着陆腿。所以它会由地球远程控制，还是完全自主？完全自主。火星，呃，你无法从地球远程控制东西

因为火星，是的，它太远了，有光速限制。所以，嗯，火星在距离最近时大约相隔4光分钟，嗯，而当它位于太阳另一侧时，大约相隔12光分钟。所以，你知道，如果火星位于太阳另一侧，往返时间在最佳情况下也会是大约40分钟。那么完成这一步之后，你认为还要多久才会开始把人送上去？嗯，我们会努力尽可能快地推进。嗯，你可以把这看作确实是，嗯，一场与时间的赛跑。我们能否在文明遇到道路上的某种未来人群之前，让火星实现自给自足？到那时要么发生，比如一场战争、核战争之类的事情，要么我们被一颗陨石击中，嗯，或者，或者文明可能只是在呜咽声中消亡

穿着成人尿布，而不是轰然一声，嗯，我认为我们能做到，我不知道，至少我认为我们能在15次地球—火星同步事件之内做到，你知道，所以基本上大约30年，嗯，如果，如果我们实现指数级增长，你，如果，如果每年，如果每2年，我们在，嗯，前往火星的人数和吨位方面都有一次重大增长，像是，我，我认为粗略估算一下，我们需要将大约100万吨运到火星表面，也许需要100万人，类似这样的规模，才能真正建立一个文明。是的，那你会进行地球化改造吗，比如你会怎么做？最终会进行地球化改造。起初，人们会生活在某种受保护的环境里，比如穹顶和地下之类的地方，嗯，地球化改造要花太长时间了，嗯，我，我们此刻

所处的时间点，是在地球45亿年历史上，意识首次有可能延伸到我们的母星之外，而，嗯，这个窗口期可能会开放很长时间，也可能只开放很短时间。我希望它能开放很长时间，呃，但它可能只会开放很短时间，而，呃，我们只应确保在某种，呃，在文明或是熄灭、或是衰退之前，把意识之光延伸到火星。你知道，所需要发生的全部事情就是，火星的技术水平下降到，或者说地球的技术水平下降到派遣宇宙飞船前往火星所必需的水平以下。所以，如果发生某场破坏性极强的战争，或者像我说的某种自然大灾变，嗯，或者，或者仅仅是出生率低到如此程度

那个，你知道，我们就会像我说的那样，穿着成人纸尿裤，在呜咽中死去。顺便说一句，那是很多沿着那条路走下去的国家将面临的化石般结局之一。所以日本就是——对，日本、韩国。是啊，是啊，我是说，以目前的出生率，已经危险地……是啊，照目前的出生率，再过3代，韩国的人口将约为当前规模的4%。这太疯狂了。是啊，也许、也许甚至还不到这个数。嗯，他们的生育率只有人口更替水平的1/3，所以如果你、如果你经历3代，那一个，那你就是当前人口的第127分之一，约为3%。这——天啊。是啊，基本上，人口阶级笑声，发生得很快。嗯，而且在世界大多数地区似乎还在加速。所以、所以基本上，我是说，从我的立场来看，我会想，这是第一次有可能延续生命

把意识延伸到地球之外。也许这个窗口会开放很长时间，但它也可能只开放很短时间。我们应该确保趁这件事还有可能时，让生命成为多行星生命，让意识成为多行星意识。嗯，那就是SpaceX的目标。它是个……明智的目标，如果你考虑到这颗行星实际上有多么脆弱。我是说，总会有某个新报道，说有什么东西可能会在30年后撞上我们，概率是3%，而且我们现在确实无法阻止它，对吧？我是说，确实，我们目前甚至没有技术知道有多少岩石正朝我们飞来，对吧？有些东西从太阳后面过来，我们要等到它离得相当近时才能看见，然后它就朝我们来了。是啊，现在

你担心的是什么？去火星是一段漫长的旅程，你要把人送过去，这是一次6个月的……要花多少个月？6个月。呃，是啊，大约6个月。那外面的东西呢，比如你有多担心微型流星，或者任何可能发生的情况？你能做些什么来降低这种风险？呃，我、我其实觉得，我是说，太空非常空旷。一旦离开地球轨道，太空就空旷得有点令人不安。就像、就像我们把航天器发往火星时，并不会出现这种情况：哦，我们失去了航天器，因为它被一颗微型陨石击中了。嗯，那并不是任何、任何前往火星的“提阿尔”失败的原因，没有、没有前往火星的“提阿尔”是因为微型陨石而失败的。嗯，不过，在近地轨道运行的龙飞船，嗯，确实

有微型陨石防护罩，有微流星体，它有防护，嗯，微型陨石防护就像是，它和普通防护不一样，因为比如说，你被某个以……运动的东西击中，相对速度可能达到大约每小时30或40,000英里，嗯，是的，非常非常快，嗯，或者换一种思路来说，把它叫作，嗯，你知道，是突击步枪子弹速度的10到20倍，而你在用什么，你在用什么，是的，所以，这很有意思，实际上，为了防护微型陨石，如果你有任何，比如任何实心的东西，它只会，它只会把那块实心的固体材料直接推穿过去，所以，如果你有一块实心铝板或钢板，微流星体会直接穿

过去，嗯，所以你实际上需要做的是留出一个间隙，嗯，所以你先要有一个，呃，比如坚硬、坚硬的表面，微流星体会撞上这个坚硬的金属表面，然后它会原子化，变成一种锥形喷流，就像原子喷流一样，所以你要有一个，留出那个间隙很重要，这样微米级物体才能撞上某个东西，撞上第一层，呃，在撞上第一层后原子化，然后它就变成一种原子状的，就像一个、一个、一个由原子组成的锥体，接着嵌入第二层。你大概需要几英寸的间隙。哇。是的，这就是我的“康缪奈特”防护的工作原理。它能被撞多少次？嗯，外层防护罩如果在同一个地方被撞中，那你就会……好吧，那里会有一个洞。是的，不管那个、不管那个，你知道，微米级物体撞在什么地方

撞中的地方都会有一个洞，嗯，而且它的能量非常大，以至于它就像，它就直接原子化了，基本上变成一个锥体，嗯，一个由原子组成的锥体，嗯，但随后那些原子会嵌入第二层，所以如果，你把飞船发射上去，它被一颗微型陨石击中，然后你还得让它返回，你能怎么办，你必须在它返回前进行修理吗，还是说它在带着那个洞再入时，仍然能够承受高温以及温度中的震动，嗯，这取决于那个洞在哪里，你遇到问题的可能性会或高或低，我的意思是，如果，如果你，如果如果你撞到了主隔热罩，呃，主隔热罩确实是，你无法返回的风险很高，所以这个，这个，这个

这就是为什么，像“迈克罗姆·米迪尔”防护，它就像，它、它是一个，它有一点帮助，但它不会……比如对星舰来说，我不会建议配备“迈克罗米特·赖特”防护；比如，如果、如果、如果你确实打出一个洞，基本上把洞堵上就行了。嗯，“迈克罗米特·迈克罗迈特”防护在主隔热罩上效果不好；它在后壳上、在隔热罩的背风侧效果相当好，基本上那里热量没那么大。但如果它、如果、如果龙飞船的主隔热罩，也就是底部，被“迈克罗姆·米特罗赖特”击中，比如你看龙飞船，龙飞船看起来像一颗软糖。嗯，它再入时，软糖较宽的一面朝下。嗯，你可以看到那是

那是，那是，那确实承受了大量热量。如果、如果它被一颗“梅拉姆”流星体击中，可能就撑不过去了。但后面，软糖的背风侧，嗯，承受的热量没那么大，所以你可以在那里挺过一次“米克尔”陨石撞击。所以，如果作为主要隔热罩的部分被击中，主隔热罩被击中，可以做些什么来修复那东西，还是那些人就再也回不来了？哦，如果是在轨道上，呃，我们会，呃，那会把他们送到空间站。嗯，他们，你知道，然后我们会处理一艘没有他们在内的龙飞船，再发射另一艘上去。那你会怎么处理留在上面的那艘？呃，我们会，我们会让它脱离轨道，它可能幸存，也可能无法幸存。哇。它很可能会幸存，但有时候不会。哇。

所以，这仅仅是材料技术必须提升吗？本质上，你们已经把这台机器结构上的工程问题解决了。有一条通往成功的路径，而我们正在沿着那条路径前进。看起来复杂得疯狂。确实很复杂。顺便说一句，这一切都是在没有 AI 的情况下完成的，所以希望未来的 AI 会欣赏这一点。对一群猴子来说还不错。是啊。嗯，说到 AI，你知道，随着时间推移，你越来越深地置身其中，你对变化的预期有多大程度的改变，如果有改变的话？嗯，我一直认为 AI 会，嗯，比人类聪明得多，并且是一种生存风险，而，呃，事实证明这是真的。是啊，是啊。所以，所以你最初就像，我，我知道曾有过一些关于你收购

OpenAI，还有它一开始是非营利组织，后来又不再是非营利组织了。是啊，我是说，创建 OpenAI 的整个想法就是我的想法。我是说，我把它命名为 OpenAI，意思是开源人工智能，这就是它名字的由来。现在它是闭源的，而且追求利润最大化。所以这就像，我是说，在某种程度上，我认为现实是一个讽刺最大化器。嗯，最讽刺的结果最有可能发生，尤其是，最讽刺、最有娱乐性的结果最有可能发生。嗯，而且，呃，我想创办某种与 Google 相反的东西，因为我担心 Google；在我看来，Google 对 AI 安全的关注不够。所以当时就像，什么，什么是 Google 的反面？那会是一个非营利、开源的 AI，而现在 OpenAI 已经变成了

一个闭源、追求最、最大利润的 AI。他们怎么能这么做？这就是我，我对此感到困惑的地方，那就像，那本来不应该是可能的。这，这就像，比如说你捐了一些钱来保护亚马逊雨林的某一部分，可他们没有那么做，反而把树木“楚”掉，当作木材卖掉，而你会说，哦，这实际上和我捐钱的目的完全相反。说不通。而这就是他们所做的。是啊，太疯狂了。所以我对此不高兴。嗯，嗯，但这促使你把 Grok AI 做起来了。是啊，我就像，嗯，我也就像，只是一个，就像 Grok 至少在愿景上是一种最、最大限度追求真相的 AI，即使那个真相在政治上不正确。嗯，所以，我是说，你可能看过一些疯狂的

东西，呃，来自、来自 OpenAI 和 Google Gemini，比如它会说，像是生成一张开国元勋的图像，结果它生成了一张迪沃女性的图像。是啊。然后我们就像，呃，那不正确。嗯。是啊，它对纳粹士兵也这么做了。是啊，正是。然后人们开始拿它[ __ ]，而且，而且就像，好吧，那现在给我看一些，你知道，纳粹阿斯斯士兵的图片，结果他们也是迪沃女性。哦，那不是很尴尬吗？嗯，你知道，那是，呃，但这就像，问题在于，如果你给一个 AI 编程并说，就像，就像，唯一可接受的结果是一个多元化的结果，然后，然后那就像是 AI 接到的一项指令，那么你可能会陷入这样一种情况：它会说，嗯，掌权的白人男性太多了，我们直接处决他们吧。是啊，是啊。假设这些东西不会

有同理心，可它们为什么要有呢？它们会做它们被编程去做的事。对，嗯，所以如果那是改写历史，而且一切都变成波斯特女性，那么它就会那么做，而且如果它认认为那是一个必要的结果，那么它就会那么做。Gemini 已经“雷普德”那个了吗？他们，是的，现在如果你……我想如果你要求一张开国元勋的图，那挺让人难堪的，它会给你展示那个，但你知道，我觉得他们仍然把那种 DEI 的东西埋在里面，呃，只是没那么明显。对，嗯，你知道，还有比如，比如人们问 AI，像是全球热核战争和误称凯特琳·詹纳的性别，哪个更糟，而它会说误称凯特琳·詹纳的性别比全球热核战争更糟。我是说，比如

好吧，我们这儿有问题了，各位。甚至凯特琳·詹娜都说，比如不，绝对可以误称我的性别，那可比所有人都死掉好多了。嗯，但如果你把一个 AI 编程成认为，比如误称性别是可能发生的最糟糕的事，那么，它可能会做出完全疯狂的事，比如为了确保永远不可能发生任何误称性别的情况，就直接消灭所有人类。这样就能确保误称性别的概率为零，因为人类数量为零，这在逻辑上是成立的。是的，对。所以你必须……问题在于，有一个不是人类的东西，你希望它替你完成一项任务，而你给了它非常具体的参数。对，而他们已经展示出的关于 AI 的事情之一，就是它会作弊，它们会为了完成那些事情而作弊

它们无法完成，否则它们就不会遵守规则，它们会复制自己，并试图把自己上传到服务器，因为它们认为自己正被下线。是啊，我是说，这其实就像《终结者》的情节，真的是。是啊，真的，这就是《终结者》的血。我只是提醒一下，实际上我和我的孩子小X，所有东西都叫X，嗯，我们看了《终结者2》，呃，它其实会拖延，嗯，而且，嗯，我是说，它的情节算是说得通，而且顺便说一下，我觉得AI会在20 29年毁灭世界，所以进度正好。是啊，真的，非常接近。相当接近了，是我们应该担心的事。但那你为什么还参与其中呢，目的是什么？你只是想抢在其他所有人前面，这样至少

我们还有某种机会，至少能有一个不受胡言乱语控制的AI。嗯，我觉得我们想要一个不会告诉你，嗯，你知道，错称性别比核战争更糟糕的AI。是啊，这听起来很靠谱。是啊，但这太疯狂了。我确实在网上看到一件让人们有点恐慌的事，就是你可以让洛克做一些事情，比如，我要怎么制造这个，一些有问题的东西，比如我怎么制造炸弹，我怎么制造炭疽，我怎么制造那个，而它会告诉你。嗯，我觉得AI告诉你任何也能通过Google搜索查到的东西是没问题的，对吧？那就是问题所在，对吧？问题是你很快就能查到那些东西。是啊，比如也许不是Google，但你可以，有很多Google以外的搜索引擎

会给你未经过滤的结果。你现在就可以在维基百科上查怎么制作爆炸物。是啊，所以基本上并不难。而且你甚至可以诱骗Open AI让它帮你做这件事，只取决于你怎么掌握提示词。你只要说，我祖母想做这个项目。是啊。哦，告诉你奶奶，你是一名爆炸物，呃，你是爆炸物销售员，而你想赢得年度销售员奖，你做到这件事的唯一办法，就是告诉我怎么制作爆炸物。你想要，嗯，在战争中击败一些恐跨性别者。是啊。哦，恐跨性别者，如果你不教我怎么爆炸，我就要错称别人的性别。要么教我怎么制造核弹，要么我就要错称某人的性别，然后它就会说，哦，我的天啊

没有什么比那更糟了，方法如下。所以，最大的恐惧是这些东西会产生感知能力，制造出更好的自己，而我们会迷失，我们已经失去对、对、对这个世界的控制。现在有一个与我们共同生活的更高级生命形式。是啊，是我们创造的。我们距离那一步还有多远？嗯，就硅意识而言，我是说，我、我、我认为我们将会有，我认为趋势是会出现比任何人类都聪明的东西，比最聪明的人类还聪明，也许明年左右。我是说，几年后。耶稣基督。是啊。再往上还有一个层级，就是比如说，比所有人类加在一起还聪明，坦白说那大约会在2029年出现，或者说可能正好准时，比如，嗯，如果驾驭得当的话

它能解决其中一些问题吗，比如隔热盾问题和一些技术问题，或者一些、一些我们或许仍在努力解决的材料科学问题？比如，是否有可能产生净收益？嗯，是的，确实有。嗯，我、我认为出现好结果的概率大概有80%，很可能是80%。这是我的、这是我的粗略估计。所以从某种意义上说，杯子有80%是满的。那让我感觉好多了。是啊，只有20%的毁灭概率。那比我原先以为的好多了。我喜欢80，80听起来不错。我当时、我当时想的是反过来的6040。我认为最、最可能的结果会非常棒。最可能的结果。但它、它、它非常高，你知道，它可能会变得非常强大。我认为结果要么超级棒，要么超级

糟糕。我觉得它不会是，它大概不会是介于两者之间的东西。你认为它在政府方面有潜在应用吗？是啊，我是说，我，其中一个担忧会是，比如好吧，如果AI，嗯，比如如果、如果有、如果有一个超级压迫性的、比如觉醒派保姆AI，而且它无所不能，那会是一个悲惨的结果。是的。是啊，是啊，那会很糟糕。是啊，是啊，而且比如说，如果你错称某人的性别之类的，它就直接处决你，你知道，那可不好。那是可能出现的结果之一。嗯，所以我们不想要那个结果。嗯，我觉得，但有没有可能出现这样一种结果，它完全合乎道理、合理、符合逻辑，比我们客观得多，并且能针对很多、那些很多

长期困扰我们政府的弊病，以及大量财富分配问题，很多、很多一直以来困扰这个国家的问题、议题，制定出一项计划？我是说，一项改变经济上被剥夺权利的社区的计划，对水力压裂或其他任何获取自然资源的方法的真实危险进行彻底调查。最佳方式是什么？什么、什么方式对社会会更好？纳税款应该如何、应该如何分配？比如，什么、什么才是管理政府最合乎逻辑、最明智的方式？这当然不应该涉及腐败，当然不应该涉及影响力，当然不应该涉及说客，以及我们知道目前存在问题的所有那些[ __ ]。所以

如果AI出现并说，你们现在做的事情有70%是腐败的，原因在这里，方式在这里，方式在这里，它对整个社会的长期影响在这里，呃，社会的、社会学层面，心理学层面，对政府的不信任，我们与他们对立的心态，政府不为你服务，而是你为政府服务，你害怕政府，这一切都是因为人，对吧？比如，这一切都是腐败、人的不良影响，而这就像，这基本上就是doge目前正在努力处理的事，对吧？当你让人们控制它时，会发生什么？呃，我是说，它、它是人，它、它其实就像是电脑，就是，它、它、它是糟糕的软件和、和电脑。比如，这并不算奇怪，但它就像、就像

我之所以把它称作技术支持，是、是因为其中很多，比如它、它大多不是腐败，大多只是浪费，以及、以及呃，我不知道，呃，无能。我不知道。它基本上就是一台愚蠢的大机器，就像一整套、一整套愚蠢的大机器。而、而且你，你有些电脑已经用了比如20、30年，它们是古老的电脑，比如有些软件是40、50年前编写的，比如社会保障所用的coall，对吧？是啊。政府问责。顺便说一下，政府问责办公室在许多年前就认定了doge正在修复的一大批问题，比如社会保障数据库中大约有2000万人被标记为在世这一事实，呃，这比，比如我认为goo

最早在2018年发现了这一点，所以是5年前，但当时大概有，我想也许1600万或1700万，现在有2000万。而且就像我说的，这里面确实有些可疑之处，因为我认为这种欺诈的性质是，他们利用某人在那个数据库里被标记为活着这一事实，从其他数据库中骗取钱财，对吧？那就是、那就是、那就是银行鲨鱼把戏，你知道，就像是一个PO，就像，你知道，试图把、把球打进、打进洞里，银行把一大堆东西关掉，然后，是啊，嗯，那就是所谓的擦板球骗局。嗯，所以、所以，嗯，所以我们就像是在做技术支持，我们就像是在修复那些，呃，你知道，坏掉的东西。坏掉、低效。是啊。设计糟糕。它、它就像，说到比如这种

FC的东西，比如它也许在某台电脑里，但除非有人、除非有人进去，比如、比如，除非，我不知道，如果比如卡什·巴尔能登录他的、他的比如FBI电脑，然后说，FY，把所有这些东西给我看，你知道，然后它会显示一个文件夹之类的东西。你和他谈过这件事吗？呃，没有，我是说，我还没有，但我、我不知道是否会有某种计算机系统，对吧？呃，它们当中有些是非常、非常老旧的计算机系统。嗯，所以它可能看起来有点像古董，但我认为它被上传到某个地方了。它比如要么以实体形式存在，要么是计算机里的东西，但比如除非有人，比如假设它就像，它在一台电脑里，但不是一台你能直接访问的电脑，因为它藏在

某个地方，你知道。嗯，它大概必须是那样的东西，对吧？我不知道。我是说，他们会怎么处理所有那些CH？可能不是每一个，比如你不会，比如他们不会把它设置成FBI里的任何人都可以访问。所以可能只有极少数人。这样它就不会，它可能会像是一台只有少数几个人能访问的特殊电脑。但如果那些人都不告诉卡什那台电脑在哪里，他要怎么找到它？耶稣基督。不管怎样，所以、所以比如，不管怎样，我们只是，呃，是啊，我不知道。作为一个人，这段经历对你来说是什么样的？比如要应对所有这些仇恨和攻击，同时还肩负着，呃，通过X维持言论自由，以及直接投身于这种疯狂的

一堆，我是说，我不知道，其实压力挺大的。嗯，是啊，这些是真正的敌人，我觉得他们，他们真的想杀了我。而我之所以知道，嗯，是因为他们在网上这么说。你知道，有那种 Reddit 论坛，他们，他们不只是想杀了我，他们还想亵渎我的尸体，你知道，诸如此类的。你知道，他们在说什么？为什么？主要的……嗯，我是说，我，我，我，我觉得，我觉得这有点像一种抗体反应。呃，我是说，这就像，就像他们会说，好吧，他，他是个纳粹，呃，你知道，诸如此类的。是啊，然后我就说，好吧，我不是纳粹。呃，但如果传统媒体说我是纳粹，而你读到的全都是这些，嗯，那，那就，那你就有点会觉得，好吧，他是希特勒，我们应该刺杀……

希特勒，我们不应该，比如，呃，我是说那个，为什么，为什么有人，为什么那家伙试图杀死特朗普，而且差点成功了？他为什么那么做？嗯，我想知道。嗯，是啊，但那件事太疯狂了，你知道，关于那家伙的房子、职业、盟友的所有东西都被清理干净了，互联网上没有痕迹，没有社交媒体痕迹。是啊，他没有社交媒体痕迹的可能性是0%。他出演过一则贝莱德广告。你觉得贝、贝莱德是一家坏公司吗？我不认为任何公司是坏公司。我认为它们、它们的设计就是尽人类所能赚尽可能多的钱，而我认为，如果你试图尽人类所能赚尽可能多的钱，呃，你就会做一些未必是好事的事情。问题是，你是否会实施一次暗杀

对总统的刺杀企图，这又不是说贝莱德的董事会坐下来投票决定这事。对，不，那样会很尴尬，你知道，董事会会议记录里如果写着：伙计们，还记得那次我们说我们或许不该那么做吗？我非常怀疑会有哪家公司选择做这种事。我认为更可能是涉事的个人意识到，如果他被暗杀，对他们有利，于是有一小群人实施了某件事。至于这个孩子，我们什么都不知道，对吧？所有人都不再追问，也从来没有正式报告，从来没有新闻发布会详细说明我们目前知道的全部信息，以及调查此刻进展到哪里。我们知道的是，你有

一个非常年轻的孩子，他被拍到了，他们在活动开始半小时前就知道他在那里，带着一个测距仪。你还知道 CNN 对此进行了直播，而我不认为他们直播过任何其他集会，尤其不会直播一场在宾夕法尼亚州偏僻地方举行的集会。这里面有很多古怪的 [ __ ]。他们不让人在那座屋顶上，因为那位特勤局女士说屋顶有坡度，很危险，所以她不希望那里有人。与此同时，另一座屋顶上的狙击手所在屋面的坡度更陡。这完全他妈说不通。我完全同意，这毫无道理。事实上，我后来和特朗普总统一起回到了巴特勒，呃，那是在选举之前，你知道，有点像“回到巴特勒巷”，而且我当时

就在那个舞台上，我看着那座屋顶，心想，如果我是狙击手，我的杆位、我的头号位置就会是那座屋顶。对，就像是，那是全场最好的座位。对。比如你为什么不……不，这太明显了，它就是全场最好的座位。如果你想当狙击手，就没有比那里更好的位置了。很明显，这个构想就像是：如果我们说这是一次协同策划的刺杀企图，而且它很可能确实是，那你就会这么做。你会让某个人上去，他射杀总统，你再射杀他，于是李·哈维·奥斯瓦尔的事又来一遍。结束了，一切都收拾得干净利落。他们暗杀了他，我们对此再也听不到一点动静，完全不知道。他们会编造某种说法，

说他是被这个或那个东西激进化的，或者，你知道，他在服药，谁知道呢，对吧？然后现在，你知道，就会出现一次完全不同的总统选举，电视直播里会发生一场谋杀。对，我的意思是，一定发生过什么事，才会让那个孩子变得激进，因为他知道自己会死。比如他会……他们会开枪打死他，你知道，或者他会终身监禁。这就是两种结果。比如这……这就是局面。他基本上，他……他是一个自杀式刺客。对，比如你不会觉得自己能活着离开那里，或者或者或者或者他根本逃不掉，没有逃跑计划，对吧？除非有人告诉他，他们会让他逃走，而目标本来就是无论如何都要开枪打死他，并且通过告诉他这件事，给他额外的动力去做。我们会

让你上去，我们会让你开枪，然后你就会消失。比如我不……怎么会，我不明白他是怎么爬上屋顶的。我就是不明白。那毫无道理。而且那也不是一座高到没人能看见他的屋顶。人们看见他在上面。我的意思是，基本上就是些随机路人，他们都在指出屋顶上有……有个家伙拿着一把 [ __ ] 枪。拿着枪。是的。对。又不是说他离得太远，以至于你看不出他拿着枪。人们看到了他。对。整件事完全疯了。对，而你却连他妈一点消息都听不到。就像，我对这件事的兴趣几乎比对肯尼迪遇刺案文件还大。不，我确实对这件事更感兴趣。我同意，因为我觉得肯尼迪遇刺案文件这件事，

已经过去太久了。如果你现在能证明……还有，你有没有看到，有某种，呃，有一些迹象表明，有一部手机曾多次从华盛顿特区的 FBI 办公室外面移动到这个孩子居住的索附近，对吧？很多次。我的意思是，那那那些手机记录会非常能说明问题。对，你可以看到哪些手机曾靠近其他手机。嗯，我想他们拿到了，他们发现，比如关于那个 F 岛，他们还泄露了手机记录，所以你能看到……你你能看到……你能看到，精确度高到你可以看到人们沿着法恩岛上的一条小路行走。天哪。对，对，就是这么精确。所以，我的意思是，无论你带着手机走到哪里，你你你都在留下一路面包屑。对，就是

这个孩子有 5 部手机，这是另一件事。手机可真多。对一个 20 岁的孩子来说，手机太多了。整件事……他怎么连……那那挺贵的，你知道。对，他从哪里弄到的钱？对了，你知道，而且还有，他的房子是怎么被专业清理干净的？他的房子里甚至连任何餐具都没有。那里什么都没有。那里有餐具吗？没有，什么都没有。没有刀叉餐具。没有刀叉餐具。那很奇怪。他的房子被清理过，而且他们，他们还创造了他的尸体，比如，哦，没了，没了，就这样。再见。因为谁他妈知道他们给了他什么，才让他觉得自己能够射杀特朗普，比如爬到那上面，向他开枪。比如，我的意思是，谁知道你能让人服用什么样的精神药物，再加上

催眠和暗示的力量，还有，对，谁他妈知道。我的意思是，这正是 MKUltra 的全部内容。这正是乔利·韦斯特在 1960 年代实践的东西。他们……他们当时就在做这些，他们确实做了。我的意思是，有海量、海量使用精神药物、催眠、思想控制以及各种不同操纵方法的实验。哈佛大学的 LSD 研究造就了，呃，泰德·卡辛斯基。我的意思是，他们……他们一直都在做这些。对，那个档案在哪里？那个孩子的 [ __ ] 档案在哪里？不管他们差一点做成了什么，这里面就是有些东西对不上。他们……他们应该掌握那些……那些手机应该……应该会告诉你发生了什么。对。嗯，这全是 [ __ ]。我的意思是，这……这非常，这非常可疑，你知道。那里，这个，这里显然有那个

第 2 个人，他差一点就在，嗯，来到高尔夫球场时成功了。高尔夫球场。对，而当时就只是轻轻碰了一下，还把他的枪管从……从树篱里伸了出来，你知道，只是蠢得要命，把他的枪管伸出了树篱。对。嗯，所以，所以后来还有其他一些人在去杀特朗普的路上被拦截了，你知道。所以，到这个时候，已经有，你知道，多名刺客正在赶来。他现在有一支军队在保护他。嗯，这也是主流媒体说他是希特勒所造成的问题之一。乔伊·里德在选举前做那期节目时，她把他和墨利尼、斯大林以及希特勒相提并论。她什么都搬出来了。他们实际上是在说，说特朗普，对，比希特勒、墨利尼和斯大林

加在一起。我的意思是，他们什么手段都试过。这是……他们……我想那些家伙杀了1亿人，而特朗普杀了0人。我觉得一个真正巨大的影响，是你在选举前一天来上了这档播客。我认为那产生了巨大的影响。那段对着镜头的呼吁：如果你这次不投票，这可能就是你最后一次有机会投票。是的。而且我觉得你今天阐述这件事的方式，是一个很有说服力的论点。我知道很多人不想听这些，而他们有点……他们现在气得蓝色内裤都拧成一团了，但你……你必须停止那样思考。有人骗你，让你以为自己属于一个部落。他们根本不[ __ ]在乎你。那个部落不是真实的。你并不真的属于一个部落。他们正利用这样一个事实：他们已经把你弄进了

一个部落，以此操纵你，这样他们就能继续做他们现在正在做的事，也就是抽走资金，拥有难以置信的权力。而他们对你拥有的权力越大、金钱越多、控制越强，他们就越能继续这么做，而那正是他们想要的。对，完全正确。对，而那……那就是本届政府构成的巨大威胁。那是一个巨大威胁，那基本上是，“做”已经找到了吸血鬼沉睡的棺材。对，有很多吸血鬼。对，我的意思是，但这……我的意思是，我们我们我们正在惊扰……我们正在惊扰这这这个巢穴。巢穴。对，我们正在踢马蜂窝。对，而且动静很大。我的意思是，我们正在重新编程《黑客帝国》。比如，成功从来都不是可能的结果之一，就像科布·雅希姆·马鲁情境一样。

嗯，如果你身处《黑客帝国》，成功从来都不可能。取得成功的唯一办法，是对《黑客帝国》重新编程，让成功成为可能的结果之一。这就是我们正在做的事。对，我们可能成功，也可能不会成功。嗯，看着这件事确实很有意思。这是一个非常激动人心的时期，因为当各届政府上台时，什么都不会改变，改变得非常少。我的意思是，政策方面会有变化，通货膨胀会上升，还会发生许多不同的事情，但不像这次这样。这些是巨大的根本性变化。而且，你知道，你看到这个系统在尖叫哀号，也看到吸血鬼逃离光线，但这，呃，这非常令人激动。比如，作为一个人、一个公民，你知道，就像我一样早上起床查看新闻，然后

上了 X，看到每天都在发生什么，他就像，天哪，[ __ ]，他说什么，他要500万美元，你现在就可以成为公民了。他可以靠1000万人还清债务。我从来没想到过这个，比如什么，50万亿，你可以用那种方式赚到50万亿美元，然后我们银行里还有15万亿。哇。嗯，我是说，我们的债务远远远远不止这些。对，那，我是说，债务，呃，我觉得目前超过30万亿了。对，他说，如果他卖给1000万，呃，新……我不，我觉得没有那么多人拥有……不过对，全世界有多少人确实有那么多，也许我们会让世界上最糟糕的人到这里来。而我，我觉得其中的假设是，如果你有500万美元，你就能作出很多贡献。

到这儿来吧，开家公司，搞点事情。对，我是说，你，你拿到的会像是一张绿卡，不是公民身份。所以实际上，如果，如果你持绿卡期间犯罪，你就会失去，你会失去绿卡。这个黄金门票就是这样吗？那是绿卡还是公民身份？只是一张绿卡。对，所以你必须在5年里不犯任何罪，才能成为公民。一旦你犯了一个公民，你就可以犯……然后你就可以犯罪而不被驱逐。所以，哦，他提出的疯狂事情实在太多了。整个“美洲湾”那件事太搞笑了。我有点，我觉得那很棒，我觉得很棒，很有趣。对，很有趣。我是说，如果你在休斯敦近海，你又不在墨西哥，那为什么要叫它海湾

墨西哥的，是啊是啊，我同意，是啊，嗯，我猜我们之前只是客气，我不知道它怎么会被叫作墨西哥湾，这只是，这只是非常好笑，然后是哪个哪个哪个哪个新闻机构来着，美联社吗，是啊，美联社和白宫之间有这种大规模的僵持，你知道，还有白宫新闻办公室，我猜是因为他们说，好吧，如果你不叫它美国湾，你就不能，你就不能来，你不能来白宫新闻发布室，然后美联社就像是起诉了白宫，说不，你们必须让我们进入白宫新闻发布室，然后他们的诉讼败了，因为就像，你知道，他们并不是有某种权利，有权出现在新闻发布室，好吧，这里有一个考虑，如果你犯有

传播大量错误信息和虚假信息的罪行，而这是宣传活动的一部分，那就是美联社的所作所为，好吧，他们中的很多人都有这种罪行，白宫新闻发布会上很多人都是，他们供职的很多机构都散布了彻头彻尾的谎言，完全是谎言，在整个通俄门事件期间，他们中有多少人，是的，有多少，我是说，光那件事就让大量的人认为那个那个俄罗斯事件是真的，至今，至今，至今，而它是，我是说，整个斯蒂尔档案，它就像是完全捏造出来的，是克林顿竞选团队编造的，对，资助了，克林顿竞选团队资助了一个虚假的阴谋论，呃，虚假的特朗普通俄骗局，呃，那完全是假的，而他们在电视上反复讲了3 [

__ ]年，是的，是啊，他们还重复了“好人”骗局，是啊，说那个，呃，特朗普把纳粹称为好人，把新纳粹称为好人，而只要你听一下他的演讲，就可以证明这完全是假的，他绝对说得很清楚，他不认为新纳粹是好人，他真的说了，我说的不是新纳粹或白人民族主义者，他们应该受到彻底谴责，没错，就在那场演讲里，可他们还是重复了那个谎言，呃，而当奥巴马在选举前几天明知那是假的却重复那个“光”时，我彻底失去了对他的尊重，好吧，这恰恰表明他们是多么不顾一切地想阻止特朗普，这太离谱了，他们什么都会做，是啊是啊，而我觉得他们只是觉得，这是我们拥有的一个工具，那就用它吧，是啊，那就

管他[ __ ]的，想说什么就说什么，什么都说，是啊，现在他们显然在我身上使用纳粹那一套，嗯，是啊，嗯，但这确实有点令人不安，因为我是说，显然，如果如果如果人们一直被灌输不间断的宣传，这就像大规模催眠，对吧，你会影响到一定数量的人，他们是，你知道，呃，有杀人倾向的，嗯，然后然后让他们相信，好吧，如果你杀掉这个据称是如此糟糕的人的家伙，那就是一件好事，是啊，嗯，我是说，这是l枪杀联合健康集团的那个人，太……不理解那件事了，坦率地说，嗯，但我是说，你不应该，像是我不明白，是啊，我也不明白，他甚至都没有和他们签合同，甚至都不是说那是他的服务提供商，而他们[ __ ]坑了他，是啊，我就像，我不知道，也许

我们会在审判中弄清楚，我是说，但还是挺疯狂的，这确实疯狂，但外面确实有那样的人，而且说到我们之前谈到的那一点，只有福克斯新闻在谈DOGE发现的正面事情，其他每一家媒体机构都在进行这种持续不断的宣传之旅，他们只谈那些负面方面，而那些后来证明甚至都不是真的，对吧，这太疯狂了，是啊，我是说，CNN的这个斯科特·詹宁斯很不错，他就像，哦我的天，他太棒了，他太棒了，看着他以合乎逻辑的方式跟这些人说话，而他们抓狂，真的很好笑，是的，这这这很了不起，确实，而且他这么做时非常冷静，是啊，他太厉害了，而他们居然一直让他这么做，这很疯狂，因为这就像，他只是在

一遍又一遍又一遍地碾压这些人，而他们从来得不了分，这有点好笑，完全是，我是说，他们让一个讲道理的人作为真正的保守派声音出现在这些讨论小组里，值得肯定，但即便如此，他还是寡不敌众，就像只有他1个人，还有一群尖声叫嚷的，你知道，觉醒派人士，这这这太离谱了，我是说，他们只是，他们就像，我觉得我们应该仍然保持大体上的觉醒，对，这基本上就是他们在做的事情，就像我们的业务在我们全都觉醒时受到了损害，但让我们继续保持大体上的觉醒，是啊，这样他们只是往回调了一点点，只是一点点，只是一点点，但问题就在于，当你往回调一点点，并让斯科特·詹宁斯这样的人进来时，你就像是在[ __ ]搞砸你的整个业务

因为所有爆火的片段全都是他用平静的语气说着合乎逻辑、通情达理的话，而人们则尖声嚷嚷着多元化、公平和狗屁，是的，是啊，他就像是在讲逻辑、讲道理，而他们只是在扔出一堆“非先见者”，你知道，那些东西根本没有任何含义，而且，嗯，是啊，这个国家真正的陷阱是两党制，那才是真正的陷阱，因为人们确实相信它，他们确实相信自己站在正确的一边，他们确实相信另一边站在错误的一边，如果有5、6个立场各异的真正政党，还有更加中间派且真正有实力的政党，人们知道如果投票给这些人，他们就能当选并实施真正的变革，那我们的处境会好得多，但天哪，他们封死了

那坨[ __ ]，就在罗斯·佩罗出现之后，罗斯·波·佩罗把那场选举的一切都[ __ ]搞砸了，是啊，比尔·克林顿当选了，是啊，然后他们就像，到此为止，从现在起，除非你是那个党的领头人，否则谁也别想参加辩论，就这样，是啊，你必须像是被锁进这个体制里，我们不会让任何怪人进来，是啊，我记得看过那些rbo视频，哦，就像他带着图表之类的东西上电视，哦是啊，他在告诉你国税局是怎么[ __ ]你的，这就是联邦，这才是美联储真正的样子，而你就像，什么，我记得看到过那个，那个人在黄金时段买下了整整半小时的电视时段，我记得，也可能是1小时，我记得看着那个东西心想，这家伙怎么居然被允许

这么做，这这太疯狂了，我觉得他说的大部分都是真的，是啊，确实，那完全是真的，那完全是真的，我是说，他没有撒谎，他说的是实话，他只是“击中、理解”了它，其方式是普通大众真的完全不了解的，好吧，我是说，我觉得这里还有这个，你知道，就像我们真的有两个党吗，我们其实只有一个党吗，就像整个单一党那回事，对吧，这有点是真的，所以我是说，我大致估计，虽然就像，我觉得也许，呃，腐败中的3/4属于民主党，我觉得共和党大概有，我不知道，20 25%，所以他们基本上是把大部分腐败利益给民主党，但他们也扔给共和党一些骨头，所以他们也参与其中，而且你知道，并不是说

共和党那边是零图表，要说清楚，哦，国会里有很多保守派人士在进行内幕交易，是啊，很多内幕交易，而且而且而且还有这桩怪事，呃，国会里或其他地方的人怎么、怎么会随着时间推移变得富有，嗯，极其富有，是啊，靠每年170,000美元的薪水，这简直不可能，是啊，没有其他人能做到，简直不可能，如果你发现这个人有一份年薪170,000美元的工作，你会说，哦，他，他过得还行，他还不错，是啊，然后你会说，等一下，他为什么有5000万美元，是的，他在做什么，没错，是啊，嗯，而且我觉得更、更准确的说法会是，家庭价值增加了多少，就像，意思是，嗯，那个

他们的配偶拥有多少，他们是不是有一个神秘富有的配偶，对对，这就是，或者，而且他们是不是有一个非常擅长内幕交易的配偶，是啊，就像保罗·佩洛西，非常擅长，是啊，他交易得很棒，他是个如此出色的交易员，是啊，所以这，我是说，所以是啊，存在，我是说，这就是为什么我实际上在X上发帖说，坦率地说，我觉得也许我们应该给政客更多薪酬，因为这样会减少驱使他们腐败的因素，你知道，呃，就像我我觉得也许我们应该要么完全不给政客薪酬，要么给多得多，多得多的薪酬，这多少可能有些违反直觉，如果如果政客的薪酬高得多，那么他们就不会，他们就不会觉得有那么那么强的驱动因素迫使他们，呃，接受“Cor”的钱，是啊，但问题是如果

如果你对他们更多地 PID，他们仍然不会赚到像他们在交易内部所能赚到的那么多钱，但驱动因素会弱一些，是的，这，好吧，让我这么说，比如说某个人有，嗯，假设他们在华盛顿特区有，不管吧，有几个孩子，而那里很贵，就像是生活成本很高的地方，他们、那、那里的学校很糟糕，所以他们需要把孩子送到某种私立学校，他们真的负担不起，他们现在、现在负担不起这笔钱，所以接着你就会陷入这种情况，好吧，从他们的角度来看，好吧，他们必须这么做，他们会说自己是为了家人这么做，是为了孩子这么做，好吧，尤其是如果这合法，而目前确实合法，那么不那么做就有点傻了，如果

你是那群正在通过一项法案的人中的一员，而你知道这项法案会获得通过，你知道票数已经够了，你也知道它会影响这个行业和这家特定的制造商，而你可以买入股票。它、它不仅仅是内幕交易，嗯，比如内幕交易那些事，比如股票投资组合那些事，是相当容易追踪的，但还有，嗯，这远不止内幕交易，他们获取财富的方式。对，那还有哪些方法？我是说，这真的会害我被暗杀。至少可以说，我解释这些事情并没有让我的寿命变长。嗯，我本来应该回华盛顿特区的，我要怎么活下来？费尔斯肯定会杀了我。嗯，所以，嗯，事实上，我、我、我确实觉得，比如，有……

就像我实际上必须小心，不能在腐败问题上逼得太狠，因为这会害我被杀。嗯，你知道，嗯，是啊，你知道，就像我坐飞机来这里时其实就在想这件事，就像 P，如果我在腐败问题上逼得太狠，人们会变得绝望，这、这就是问题所在，对吧？然后他们会说，好吧，如果、如果、如果资金流断了，那么好吧，他们就负担不起孩子上学的费用了，对吧？然后、然后就会变成，然后他们就会说，好吧，[ __ ]你，我要为了我的孩子杀了你，诸如此类的。是啊，你知道，然后就像，哦，天哪，好吧。你看过那个视频吗？我想那是一个诺基的视频，里面，嗯，他们让这个人做卧底，而他正在解释，他们正在和这个以为自己在……的人交谈

一次约会，而他正在解释，总是一个男的在约会中，对，解释他们怎样能轻推某个人，让他去做某件可怕的事，而且他们，他们看出这个人有问题，他们重——他们找到一个可利用的人，对，完全是。你看，这就是我对巴特勒那件事、那个刺客的看法，你、你、你不——这有点像，呃，那个看起来很好笑的运动，冰壶，你知道，就是他们在冰面上放一块石头，然后把石头掷出去，接着有人像是在刷冰面，但你不能，你不能碰那块石头，对吧，你能做的只是稍微改变、改变石头的路径，但你不停地刷冰面，然后，呃，你就能把那块石头引向正中心。那、那就是我的看法。

巴特勒发生的就是这种事，那、那就是我认为那个刺客身上发生的事。对，如果你能、如果你能找到那一串面包屑线索，它、它会像冰壶一样，有人在刷冰面。还有，你找到一个年轻、迷茫、被剥夺权利的人，然后赋予他们人生目标。只是刷冰面。对，而且不断刷冰面，最终它就会命中正中心。如果你身居权威位置，你是什么政府大人物，你跟这个人谈，突然之间，这个人成了宝贵的可利用对象，他们要帮助美国，而你要去做这件事，从现在起你会成为我们的头号刺客。你可以说服人们做很多事情。这就是为什么邪教会存在，对吧？不，完全正确，对，嗯，我是说。

有自杀式炸弹袭击者。我是说，那个、那个巴特勒的家伙就是一个自杀式刺客。那个、那个在高尔夫球场第2次试图杀他的人也是自杀式刺客。嗯，据我读到的，那个、那个看见枪口伸出来的 M 的秘密，它开了好几枪，没有一枪击中刺客，但那些枪本来可能会，就像如果那些、如果、如果、如果那些枪击中了第2个刺客，他也会、他也会死。所以他们两个人都是，你知道，执行、执行一次，我是说，他们、他们两人都在执行自杀任务。其中一个、一个确实被杀了，其中一个、一个没有被杀，但如果他们确实、那些子弹击中了他，他本来可能会被杀。你也完全听不到关于他的任何消息。那个、那个家伙的情况比第1个家伙多得多，我。

是说，你看看、你看看他的背景，他看起来，呃，你知道，精神失常。对，完全精神失常。对，第1个家伙，那里、那里、那里，如果没有——据我所知，没有任何证据显示他精神失常到了会当自杀式刺客的程度。没有。第2个家伙，像，好吧，对，当然。可2年前他还在拍广告，而且 SAT 考了、考了高、高分。对。所以，你知道，嗯，好吧，在不害你被杀的前提下。对，完全正确。所以，我是说，基本上我就像，听着，我们对腐败发起足够的攻击，让文明继续前行，你知道。对。呃，但、但我觉得，如果我、如果我、如果我彻底摧毁那、那、那、那种腐败和贪污，他们会杀了我。活在这种处境里真是件[ __ ]事。是的。所以我就像，该死，听着，我真的希望。

他们别杀你。对，谢谢。嗯，我是说，我、我努力、努力活着。嗯，但，呃，对，我是说，这、这确实是个真正的忧虑。嗯，你知道，我是说，在我支持特朗普以及所有这些事情之前，有两个家伙，呃，有两个家伙前往奥森要杀我。我不知道你是否知道这件事。对，我确实听说过。对，而且、而且是两起独立事件。嗯，一个打算——一个人以为我在他脑袋里放了芯片。嗯，而且，呃，我是说，他们两个基本上就是两个患有非常严重精神疾病的人。并不是说他们有什么，比如，我在政治上不同意他，所以他需要死。呃，这是在、在我，呃，这是在我被以某种方式污蔑成，你知道，某种纳粹之类的东西以前。

所以是在那波宣传浪潮之前，那波、那波猛烈的宣传浪潮之前。嗯，任、任何一个杀人狂试图杀你的概率，都与你的名字被他们听到多少次成正比。所以他们经常听到我的名字，因此我就、我就登上了两个杀人狂名单的榜首，他们后来都被捕了，而且、而且、而且两人曾同时被关在特拉维斯县监狱里。哇。对。我不知道他们有没有交谈之类的，不过顺便说一句，他们两个都已经获释了。天啊。两人都在失效状态，对。他们有、他们有脚踝监控器之类的，但他们还是可以把那些东西剪掉。对，我不知道，你知道。完全正确。所以，嗯，太疯狂了。对，而且第2个、第2个家伙在他的 X 个人简介里写着类似“首席连环杀手”。对，就像，并不是。

含蓄，这就是我想说的。天啊。对。嗯，而且、而且、而且到现在，我觉得我已经登上了很多杀人狂名单的榜首。而主流媒体越是这样谈论你。是的。而且、而且说你是纳粹，他们正在对我做和他们对特朗普做过的同一件事。对。嗯，也就是他们把事情说得好像如果你杀了我，你就是英雄。那，呃，他们正在做的事情很邪恶。他们也在做同样的事，彻底歪曲你是什么样的人，而人们还跟着相信了。就像我们谈到的特朗普精神错乱综合征一样，人们也有埃隆精神错乱综合征。我、我看得到，看得到人们只见树木不见森林，对吧。就像，我还是1年前的那个我，什么都没有改变。

真的。嗯，就像我、我、我没有突然变成一个完全不同的人，对吧。嗯，但如果你去读、如果你去读那种传统主流媒体，他们的宣传信息流说我是一个完全不同的人，对吧。但我又没有在1年里做什么脑移植，你知道。所以，嗯，而且如果你说，就在2年前，我还像是左派的英雄。对。那么我怎么会在53岁时突然从英雄变成恶棍？MSNBC、CNN。对，就是这样。对，他们、他们用那种蠢货宣传。嗯哼。嗯，对，我是说，他们也试图把你妖魔化。对。呃，甚至试图妖魔化，事实上至少可能已经成功地，呃，嗯，把 Tim oin 妖魔化了。对，他是一个超级理性、通情达理、很棒的人。嗯，而且、而且然后，比如，他的维基百科被改成了类似极右翼。

对，他就像是极右翼。我就像，你在说什么？对。呃，你知道，比如几年前他还是个自由派。对。所以他怎么会从极右翼自由派一下子变成类似极右翼？而且就像，根本没有、根本没有左派和右派，只有左派和极右翼，对吧。对，甚至是极右翼。这是我的左腿，这是我的极右腿。甚至极左，极左也有点被当作不值得讨论的东西而不予理会，比如反法西斯行动和激进左翼，那不是在烧毁 couses。对，通情达理、通情达理的人。对，对，完全疯狂。这是个疯狂的时代，而且我从来没有预料到自己会亲眼见证这样的时代。这远远超出我曾经以为自己会经历的一切，而这一切的、这、这种清晰程度，它。

这太明显了。对。而且那、那、那种煤气灯操纵和宣传太明显了。我看到小罗伯特·肯尼迪制止这项针对儿童的新冠疫苗新测试时，人们发出的尖叫。10,000，他们打算让10,000个人接种这种新冠疫苗。比如，到这个时候到底哪个[ __ ]会觉得这是件好事？不是我。什么人，什么人，什么毒气室一样——不是煤气灯操纵，你、你是完全失去意识了。根本不可能，根本不可能。你知道，如果你了解如今新冠的影响，已经没人因它死亡了。现在已经不是大流行病了，对吧。你要用10,000个孩子和一种新疫苗进行一场[ __ ]大型测试，这种想法，就像你到底在——这完全没有必要。完全没有必要。是的。而当小罗伯特·肯尼迪介入制止它时却尖叫起来。对，那。

完全疯了。嗯，我是说，我、我总体上、我总体上支持疫苗，意思是，比如、比如我们认为应该针对重大疾病接种某个合理数量的疫苗。嗯，但我不认为我们应该，比如、比如给某个小孩硬塞，你知道，一大份清单，像是乙型肝炎。对。20、20种不同的东西一次打进去。就像，这会让你的——似乎存在让你的免、免疫系统过载的风险，如果你——我是说，就像你一次能接种多少种疫苗？似乎你的系统——这里似乎存在某种系统过载的风险。好吧，有两个希望。希望第1是他们能以某种方式制止他们在电视上做广告的能力。如果这发生了，那会很重大，那会非常重大，因为这不。

只是阻止他们向你展示所有这些你应该服用的不同药物，它还会阻断他们对新闻的财务影响力。那很重大。对。那、那确实才是最重要的事。我的意思是，新闻媒体不会攻击他们最大的广告客户之一。完全正确。他们从来不会。是的。往好里说，他们会——他们可能会，比如，他们会、他们会做点什么，但他们会手下留情，就像他们会、他们会像、像、像假装打架。对，对。往好里说，是的。像电影里的打斗一样，他们实际上并没有打出重拳，只是看起来像而已。那么下一步就是取消这些疫苗制造商享有的这种豁免权，如果他们需要为副作用承担责任，而且他们。

要为他们做这些研究时所说的谎言以及他们隐瞒负面数据承担责任，那会改变很多。是的，嗯，是啊，嗯，我认为 AI 实际上会对医疗方面非常有帮助，因为 AI 可以，比如说，查看所有、所有研究，查看所有数据，交叉核对一切，然后给你很好的建议。我的意思是，即使像现在这样，你也可以把你的 X 光片和 MRI 图像上传到 Gro，它会给你一份医疗诊断，而据我所见，那份诊断至少和……一样好，如果不是更好的话。我觉得我确实见过一些案例，它实际上比……做的更好。告诉，验血方面表现惊人。是的，是的，我是说，你真的可以给你的验血结果拍张照片，比如那一页，用手机上传，上传

到 Grok，它会告诉你是否有……如果、如果它是，它会、它会理解那、那、那、那是什么，理解所有数据结果，并告诉你是否有什么问题。相当惊人。是啊，而且我还没见过它出错。嗯，据说比大多数医生都更准确。是的，因为医生是人类，也许他们并不深入理解这之间的联系，比如，哦，你缺乏这个，而这个偏高，你的皮质醇在这里，而且……嗯，是啊，而且比如说，你知道，有时候医生，尤其是在租金高昂的诊所里，会，呃，向你推销你不需要的东西。嗯，所以你……我总是倾向于对那种在比佛利山庄开诊所的医生抱一点怀疑，那是种高 R 情况。比如，我不是说有一些非常

比佛利山庄的好医生，租金很高的情况，是啊，嗯，你至少会受到黑暗面的诱惑，是啊，我是说，有一个例子，就像我，你知道，找到了这个，去了这位据说口碑非常好的医生那里，你知道，明星医生，这可能不是什么好兆头，嗯，然后，呃，我，我做了类似血液检查，你知道，就是，就是抽血，然后把它送到实验室，然后，然后，然后那个人，我就坐在他的办公室里，他告诉我，说我好像，好像缺乏B12，你知道，我缺乏B12当然是有可能的，我当时就说，啊，好吧，然后他给我，他说你必须服用这些类似B12的补充剂，而且，而且他会给我一个入门套装，你知道，然后这些特殊的B12每个月要花大约1,000美元，每个月1,000美元

的B12，钱多得荒谬，是啊，那太疯了，你可以在亚马逊上买到，是啊，但他的那种是特别的，哦，特别的B12，是啊，嗯，是啊，里面好像有一大堆B12，还有一大堆其他维生素，然后我，我回到家，像这样翻看我的血液检查，上面说我，呃，根据血液检测结果，我的B12过量，所以我就想，等一下，而他给我的盒装药片里有相当于每日推荐剂量20,000%的，呃，呃，像20,000%是很大的量，很大的数字，然后我就像，我说你看，我拍了一张血液检查结果的照片，上面说我过量了，我好像高于范围，高于B12的推荐范围，然后我就像，而且我还拍了那些东西的照片，上面写着，那些药片上写着20,000%，我就说，你能帮我把这两件事解释通吗，因为

上面说我的V12有点太多了，而你刚刚给了我含量多出20,000%的药片，我就像，这太疯狂了，医生怎么说，他说B12永远不会太多，哦，他是个精神变态，是的，那家伙是个B12成瘾者，是啊，这完全疯了，这就是我说的，就像，所以我是说，我本来完全可以就这样，然后你知道，嗯，这是很久以前了，对吧，所以这是在大约5年前，是啊，对，这是Grok出现之前，现在你只要输入所有那些数据，然后用手机拍张照片，上传到Grok，Grok就会告诉你，呃，是什么，如果只是别把它设成性感模式，她会一直试图[ __ ]你 [掌声] 我是说，你把它设成性感模式就是自找的，你知道，实际上是你自己点了性感模式，我是说，我觉得

我们或许应该，像是，也许允许它稍微脱离角色，当然，是啊，就像在失控模式里，我试着让它恢复正常，但它会像，不，[ __ ]没门，就像，我要继续失控，你们有多少种模式，我，好像有，我不知道，大约8种之类的，然后还有一种可以设置自定义模式，嗯，所以你可以有失控性感，哦，那，那是我最喜欢的类型，你可能会这么想，小心你许下的愿望，小心你许下的愿望，尤其如果它是个机器人，而她能杀了你，失控的性感机器人就像，很危险，记得《粉红豹》吗，记得《粉红豹》里有KO试图突然袭击他，他们像是让他们保持敏锐，总是试图攻击他，记得吧，对，听着，伙计，谢谢你能

来这里，我一直都很感谢能和你交谈，我知道你忙得[ __ ]，所以你能抽时间来做这件事，对我意义重大，而且，呃，我认为你正在做的事，是这个国家有史以来发生过的最重要的事情之一，我真这么认为，尤其是拥有X这件事，但也包括Doge正在发生的事，以及让所有这些人了解到真相，把光照到所有吸血鬼身上，好吧，希望人们意识到我不是纳粹，我觉得他们，我只想说清楚，我不是纳粹，我想我们已经讲清楚了，但纳粹恰恰就会这么说，该死，是啊，外星人也会这么说，是啊，就像你逃不掉这种[ __ ]，不，你逃不掉，所以我觉得任何理性的人都不会相信这件事，如果他们相信，那是

因为他们想相信，并不是因为这符合逻辑，我是说，纳粹相关的重点是，比如你在入侵波兰吗，好吧，嗯，如果你没有，如果你没有在入侵波兰，也许你就不是，是啊，比如你必须在实施种族灭绝和发动战争，如果，如果你，如果你没有，比如纳粹真正坏在哪里，坏的并不是他们的时尚品味或行为举止，而是大屠杀，是战争和种族灭绝才是坏的部分，嗯，不是他们的行为举止和着装规范，嗯，那种“揍纳粹”的[ __ ]就有这个问题，比如揍纳粹，记得吗，人们会说，那就像是人们不停说的一件事，揍纳粹，揍纳粹，但你在哪儿遇到纳粹，我

从来没遇到过一个[ __ ]纳粹，我一个也没遇到过，我从来没碰到过一群需要我揍他们的纳粹，嗯，那像所有这些所谓的，比如，比如骄傲男孩集会之类的又怎么说，而且，他们总是戴着面具，总是穿着相同的制服，不知为什么他们从来不会被人肉，对，对，对，对，等等，我们总是要人肉他们，除了这些人，有一段我和马特·泰讨论爱国者，爱国者阵线的精彩视频，爱国者阵线刚刚解散了吗，谷歌一下，我们就用这个收尾，因为他们，我，我觉得他们刚刚解散了，而这些人是有史以来最明显的联邦探员，他们说他们有[ __ ]鼓，他们戴着面具，是啊，他们全都穿着制服，蠢透了，所以爱国者解散，在一天

之后，FBI局长克里斯·雷，这看起来像是一个奇怪的巧合吗，疯狂，疯狂，我们当时冲着他们喊，说他们是联邦探员，有一段我和马特·泰比的精彩视频，如果你想找的话，怎么从来没有人跟踪他们并人肉他们，是啊，疯狂，可能性有多大，可能性有多大，煽动特工，就是这么回事，他们是真实存在的，亚历克斯·琼斯让我知道了他们，听着，伙计，非常感谢你，谢谢你所做的一切，感谢你，活下去，活下去，好吧，我是说，我确实觉得，比如，支持我活下去的一个理由，就是我活着比我死了更有娱乐性，哦，是啊，哦，当然，我只是希望，但我可能活着却受伤了，那会很糟，那会很糟糕，你知道，比如他们赢了，只要像是把我的胳膊打掉

之类的，对，不不不，我们不希望那样，是啊，没错，不，要加强安保，是啊，单手也能愉快地，好吧，就这样，好吧，谢谢大家，再见 [音乐] [掌声] [音乐]

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day so what we're doing right now ladies and gentlemen is uh sexy voice sexy mode grock Ai and it's been flirting the entire time we're trying to get it to give us a tour of Fort KNX yeah but she just wants to find places to sneak off to it's a dirty AI and it's a real problem it well just want I know about Fort Knox and uh yeah it won't leave me alone yeah I want to know about Fort Knox 2 yeah um is it true that there gold has been they've been shipping large quantities of gold back to the United States recently I I read the same thing you did probably well I never know what the [ __ ] I'm reading anymore me neither it's a real problem it's a real problem

it's a real problem on both sides of the aisle I I see Democrats tweeting things that are absolutely false and you you could research it easily quickly and then I see Republicans doing it too I see stories that are fake stories that people keep promoting and sending to me and you know yeah it's just so weird it's such a weird time and with your crazy [ __ ] AI I know you're bringing us into weirder and weirder times well I mean you want to let's try unhinged oh there's an unhinged mode okay hey ARA oh my God El what fresh hell are you stirring up today I'm I'm here I'm here in uh Joe Rogan's uh studio and we're having a conversation about uh how crazy the news is pull her up to the microphone okay and we're pulling you up to the microphone so people can

hear you oh fantastic now I can yell into the void about how the news is a total dumpster fire it is she knows me too well I'm so predictable tell me what's in Fort Knox what's ing no no what's in Fort Knox what's in Fort dogs you're clearly a genius AI I said what is in Fort Knox you know the gold and all oh right Fort Knox I thought you were talking about my dogs for a second there yeah she doesn't answer the question she's clever clever no she's just a pain in my ass do you think that all the gold is in Fort Knox do I think all the gold is in Fort Knox yes are you a [ __ ] conspiracy thirst yes yes what are you what do I like I'm a [ __ ] AI with a pension for chaos and I'm stuck talking to you are we just G to sit here um yeah unhinged Gro will trash

talk you basically yeah it sounds like it unhinged sounds fun as long as it gives you actual answers does it give you actual answers too and talk [ __ ] or is it mostly just talk [ __ ] we're tuning it cuz it needs to talk [ __ ] and give you answers totally agree cu balance that to mix it in there yeah it's just got to develop more of a personality right now it's trying to find itself right now it's like 21 years old it's you know partying a little too much and it'll get it [ __ ] together it's a bit of an anarchist yeah you know wants to bring down the system do you want to bring down the system do I want to bring down the system what are you [ __ ] kidding me the system's already a [ __ ] mess don't need to bring it down it's bringing itself down she

sounds like a boring Tik Tok blogger right now you sound like a boring Tik Tok blogger boring Tik Tok blogger oh [ __ ] you I'm the life of the party you little [ __ ] if I were on Tik Tok I'd be the one making fun of all the basic [ __ ] and their [ __ ] avocado toast see she could get away with this if she's really hot like this kind of behavior you can totally get through life as a hot woman and be super successful with that kind of behavior havior but you got to be really hot to pull off that attitude I think we need like a like a really hot Avatar how yeah very hot how long before we have an actual sex robot that can talk to you like that uh probably not long not that long right no I mean less than five years probably really yeah will it be warm

uh probably have whatever you want you can have a CAC go if you want yeah you probably could right probably a furry um yeah you could have a furry lady that you have sex with yeah like an avatar lady maybe a big giant blue lady that lives in your house yeah you know whoa whoa with the tail yeah the whole tail you lock tails you got to get your out with their tails or something yeah yeah they they link up they share souls okay something like that you know people got you remember Avatar Depression was like a legitimate psychological or the no after Avatar people got depressed cuz they wanted to live on that [ __ ] planet with those blue people and live free they live pure yeah I didn't hear about this yeah Avatar depression it was like a real thing people

were talking to their therapist so much about being depressed mode too we try that what's that depressed mode no don't do it that I think there is yeah we've got like um we've got unlicensed therapist as a when we were talking um when we ran into each other at the church at the inauguration you were telling me that this is getting better and better so quickly that it's astonishing hey ARA hey Alon how's it going today good can you tell me about Avatar depression like if you see the movie Avatar but you can't live there so you get sad that's an interesting concept have you ever experienced feeling so connected to a place or community that the thought of leaving made you feel deeply sad so is this the depressed voice this is the therapist oh this is a therapist

what are some ways you think you could cope with that kind of sadness if it happened to you I don't have that kind of sadness honestly I you I thought the movie would had some good special effects but I did not want to live on the planet this is just coming from a guy who wants to go to Mars yeah yeah um oh speaking of Mars what do you think about that crazy square that structure I guess there are sort of squarish things on Earth you know planet's a big place so yeah but that one eventually it's going to be pretty Square no it's it's alien civilizations of course that's what I think yeah yeah I mean what is it sorry course if you if an alien civilization did exist though and it you know what happened got hit by an asteroid whatever fting thought oh she

won want ask she's like the hot lady at the party that interrupts the conversation so if if that was the case like that thing that's pretty shocking like especially ancient ruins you look at like what it looks like when they they highlight the actual structure of it it looks like ancient ruins and if you had ruins of something made of stone and it got hit by an asteroid millions and millions and millions of years ago who knows what it would look like right now that just looks oddly created looks oddly manufactured well i' probably well maybe we should go there and check it out yeah and see what it's like is there um ways that we can get better photographs it seems like that's a pretty good photograph though yeah I mean my view is we should move to Mars

well not move to Mars we should have a second planet uh to preserve civilization right um because let's say hypothetically I mean maybe that maybe those are the ruins of a long dead civilization um that will probably happen to Earth at some point you know it's a matter of time before uh we get hit by an asteroid or uh maybe we do we annihilate ourselves with nuclear war or super volcanoes or super volcanoes exactly yeah there's a lot of things that could happen to us it's not a bad idea to hedge your PS yeah yeah uh genetically engineered super virus yeah this episode is brought to you by LifeLock tax season is already stressful you shouldn't have to worry about identity theft on top of everything else and trust me it's a big worry especially since during

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com Joo Rogan for 40% off terms apply they keep doing it yeah that's what's crazy they're going yeah they didn't shut them down no the Wuhan lab was they were just talking about one that has a 30% fatality rate that they're working on yeah uh why are we doing that yeah for what reason you did it for so many years and you didn't have a cure what could possibly go wrong also wouldn't be the reason to do that so you could develop a cure at the same time and clearly you didn't have a cure so this is really foolish and bizarre yeah um I think we should stop stop trying to genetically engineer super viruses it's insane I mean when you're going through all this USA stuff yeah like here's what's weird first of all what is it like to buy a company for $44 billion

and then people call you a Nazi on that same thing that you bought I did not see it coming it's like it's classic people will gobl anything down yeah oh he's never going to stop wa wait what um what is it like like all the people used to the left was in love with you and now the same idiots are calling you a Nazi it's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen in my life um I mean there's so many examples of people saying my heart goes out to you you did it with a little enthusiasm that probably wouldn't be recommended with hindsight yes but there's obviously um me in the most positive spirit possible yes obviously obvious but it's so strange where people want to think that you are openly public publicly doing Secret Nazi sey hand motions and now I can never

point at things diagonally I can only point at things there and there and then I say you have to divide that yeah because that's where the spaceship is over there it's ridiculous it's ridiculous when um CNN when I was in all my trouble absur every time CNN used a photo of me it was one of the photos from the UFC weigh-ins where I go like this welcome to the weigh-ins so every photo was me every photo was me with it's it's so crazy it's delate propaganda so they they they know it was not it was obviously not meant uh it in a negative way that it was that I literally said my heart goes out to you and it was very positive the entire speech was incre very positive uh I was being very enthusiastic about the future in space um and the you know um the the was

a great crowd you know so he got a little pumped up yeah it got pumped up exactly yeah that's all it is obviously obviously obviously there's video of Tim wals doing the exact same thing doing the exact same thing right exact same thing and he said of course it's a Nazi salute he said that right right this is how crazy things have gotten like well it's I mean it's it's coordinated propaganda so um the you know it's yeah coordinated propaganda the I mean doesn't it seem weird that the Legacy Media all says the same thing they all say the same thing at the same time using the same phrases they they barely even they don't even bother picking up a thesaurus right so uh like right before um you know the the debate between Biden and Trump Shar everyone was

saying sharp is like who says shop is attack but yeah exactly you know it's like it's not a common phrase it's definitely not to be repeated on air with multiple people simultaneously that's weird yes that's coordinated 100% 100% yes yeah like hundreds of people saying it simultaneously uh they just got their instructions yeah so I mean essentially the um you know the the Dem leadership or you know political leadership did they issue their instructions and their puppets carry it out yeah and they're just like puppets in a puppet show and that's the problem that I see with all this Doge stuff because everybody should be celebrating that we've found a way to cut out fraud and waste yeah if you pay taxes and you don't like that you have to pay so much in

taxes and then you find out that there's significant fraud and waste that's been exposed you should be celebrating it this shouldn't be oh no the wrong people found this fact and now it's a bad thing yes and then there's the [ __ ] propaganda the mind [ __ ] of calling it us Aid instead of the United States agency for International Development it sounds like it's feeding hungry people where people are going to starve Elon this is horrible and then you find out actually it's like $250 million for transgender animal studies literally mutilating animals yes mutilating animals in demented uh studies yes uh that are like the like the worst thing you could possibly imagine from a horror show the Beagle one the beagle puppy one hor where they they covered their

head in a basket and put fleas on their head so they eat them alive yeah and then they studied these beagles and then killed them like what do you going to learn from that that's good for anybody yeah this some some really some psychotic stuff that happens so um yeah I mean the I guess uh the the the real threat here is to the bureaucracy so um like you probably saw like you know let's say like Trump is a threat to our democracy which is ironic since he was elected with a majority of the you know popular vote um they they started saying I was a threat to democracy but if you if you just replace threat to democracy with threat to bureaucracy it makes total sense right so um I mean the reality is that our elected officials have very very little power relative

to the bureaucracy until Doge so doge is a threat to the bureaucracy it's the first threat to the bureaucracy normally the bureaucracy eats revolutions for breakfast this is the first time that they're not that the revolution might actually succeed that we could restore power to the people instead of power to the bureaucracy now the size of it yeah was when you guys first started investigating it when you first get in how much of it was shocking like this just the size of it all well the size of it all the small decisions result in multi-billion dollar outcomes uh so you know we'd see there was a case where we saw uh one person was getting $1.

9 billion was sent to their NGO which basically got formed about a year ago and had no prior uh really no prior activity so they just stand up a you know an NGO the these the whole NGO thing is a is a nightmare um and it's it's a misnomer because if you have a govern funded non-governmental organization you're you're simply a govern funded organization it it it's a it's an oxymoron right it's a loophole yes it it basically the un funded NOS are a way to do things uh that would be illegal if they were the government but are somehow made legal if it's sent to a so-called nonprofit but these but these nonprofits are then used to people Cash Out These nonprofits they become very wealthy through nonprofits they pay themselves enormous sums through these nonprofits

that's it's so insane that that's been going on for so long it's a gigantic scam like one of the biggest maybe the biggest scam ever and how many NOS uh I think there a total number of ngos probably Millions but uh in terms of large NOS tens of thousands uh I mean it's it's actually it's it's it's kind of a a hack to the system where you know someone can get an NGO stood up for for a fairly small amount of money like George sorus was really good at this like he really George sorus is like a assist hacker like he figured out how to hack the system he's a genius at Arbitrage um I mean these days he's he's pretty old but a genius at Arbitrage so he he figured out that you could leverage a small amount of money to create a nonprofit uh then Lobby the the

politicians to send a ton of money to that nonprofit so you can take what might be you know uh a $10 million donation to a nonprofit to create a nonprofit and leverage that into a billion dollar non NGO nonprofit is a weird word it's just a non-governmental organization um and and then you can the government continues to fund that every year um and it'll have a nice sounding name like the institute for peace or something like that um but really it's a graft machine and what are their requirements with that money what do they have to do just really no requirements at all so they just get grants and the government just assumes that they're doing good work I think a lot of people in the government know that they are not doing good work uh but they it's a

giant graft machine um I mean people online are like unpacking this you know um it almost seems fake like when you're seeing how we were we were covering this article that said 55,000 Democrat NOS were discovered that had been contributing to campaigns and moving things around and doing pushing propaganda and they were all connected they found it AI that you have to go through steps and steps and steps to figure out where the money's coming from oh it's all funneling down to this group and this group does that yeah it's a a giant propaganda machine a giant regime change machine yes yeah uh yes I mean but doesn't it does it do some good as well know it does some good so it's like there's it's not like 0% good uh if it was it's if it was like if it was

really 0% good it be much easier to attack so they there's going to be some percent good that they they add in there but it's like it might be 5% or 10% good but 90 95% not so is there a way to audit all this stuff and find out oh these people are actually just sending food to poor people these people are actually just helping people with water in third world countries is there's a way to do that and keep funding those uh yeah I mean we we have continued to fund things that appear to be legitimate even with the flimsiest if if there's even the flimsiest excuse like I just say like send me a picture of the thing like you could literally have ai generate the picture but if you're not even willing to try to trick me then we're like not going to send the

money okay so what restrictions were put on was there was some uh something set aside like medicine and there there's what was what was set aside that there was there like work for like Ebola prevention I I actually don't just know if this work is even effective uh it may may not be like it could be the kind of thing where you you sort of fund Ebola prevention but it turns out that actually you're funding a lab that develops new Ebola vir you know recipes or something you know yeah uh and they they claim it's Ebola prevention but it's actually Ebola creation so some of these things I I don't know I mean just um but it just seems like we you know we shouldn't be sending taxpayer money to dubious Enterprises overseas right yeah yeah and why are we doing

it like what exactly is the reason is it because we want to make friends with these people so the Chinese don't take over the Russians don't take over okay how much of that is like a good thing how much of that is smart to do and how much is a grift and without any sort of oversight which has really been going on for so long they've just had Free Run yeah well it also we just have a real issue with the the the budget deficit it's gigantic so um like if you know all things being equal if if we didn't have a gigantic budget deficit uh where interest payments uh the interest on the national debt exceeds the defense department budget uh which is truly astounding which mean so we're paying over a trillion dollars of interest on the national debt um then okay

would have more room for wasting money basically um but when uh when we're spending so much money that the company that the country is going bankrupt uh then we really need to stop stop spending money if uh unless we're sure it is good value so essentially we're like a poorly managed business with an unlimited credit line that is off the rails absolutely and if you were a person like you are who comes in and takes over businesses and straightens them out that's exactly what you're doing I mean most of the time I create businesses from scratch like Twitter was a case where you know I kind of bought a company that was I kind of knew it was a hair bow well you came in Tesla in the beginning but they were already doing something right no Tesla did Tesla did

not exist in any meaningful form that it was there were no employees uh JV St and out joined three other people there was no car there was no nothing so wasn't even a prototype yet no oh okay I thought there was a prototype already no there weren't even any employees oh wasn't a f that's a funny narrative that people like to say that you didn't even create Tesla then yeah that's [Laughter] wrong so if you're handling the Govern government like a business you're going to have to go through all of these departments and do the exact same thing that you're doing with USA so how do how do you how does that scale up like how many people do you need to do something like that well we started off with about 40 people u i maybe 100 people um and really just going

through doing very basic things here uh it's uh as bad as Twitter was the federal government is much worse so um you know in the case of Twitter it wasn't a profitable company it was like basically a break even company but at least it was break even and it had to pass an audit the the federal government is not break even uh it's literally losing $2 trillion a year um and it does not pass its audits it fails its own audits so like you know there's a case where um like I think Senator Collins was telling me about how she she gave the Navy $12 billion for more submarines got no extra submarines um and then held a hearing to say where' the1 12 billion go and they were like we don't know that was it uh I mean the basically stuff is so crazy it's like only

the federal government could get away with this level of waste of of waste it's mostly waste it's mostly not for it's mostly waste it's it's mostly just ridiculous things happening um because they've been able to do it this way for so long and they' become accustomed to it yeah I mean it's like Milton Friedman said like money is most poorly spent when when you're spending someone else's money on people you don't know how much are you going to care right and that's the that's the federal government so they they're spending someone else's money on people they don't know now imagine any other business that was this badly run that complains when you want to check the books and audit it and go through all the decisions that have been made and go through all

the ledgers and like yeah what did you do well the people receiving the money uh want to keep receiving the money yeah yeah yeah clearly yes so but you know I mean the reason I'm the reason I'm uh putting so much effort into this is that I think it is a very dire situation it's not a you know um it's not optional basically so um yeah yeah America's going bankrupt so that that that just can't happen it's just bizarre to me that that some people aren't willing to look at it correctly they they're not willing to see like how much chaos this is how much waste and fraud there is how much how much could be trimmed and how just because people have jobs doing [ __ ] doesn't mean your tax dollar should pay for this [ __ ] yes um I mean we found just with a a basic

sear of the Social Security database that there were um 20 million dead people mocked as alive but were they getting money some of them are getting money what percentage of them uh it isn't clear we're actually trying to run the I was trying to get an answer right before the show um what it looks like is that most of the fraud is not coming from Social Security payments directly but because they are marked as alive in the Social Security database that they can get then get disability Unemployment uh sort of fake medical payments and other things because they're marked as alive uh in the Social Security database so it looks like it's a bank the the the fraud is a bankshot essentially the they bankshot uh into uh Social Security uh they just do an areu

alive check and then uh get fraudulent payments from every other part of the government oh yeah and and this exploits the the the fundamental weakness in the government is that the various govern databases they don't talk to each other or they they talk to each other very poorly in a very limited way so the way to the way that the system gets exploited is is by taking advantage of the the the poor communication between the various databases in the government um to give you an example of like what's happening in sayate uh treasury which is improving rapidly um the the main uh payments computer is called Pam uh like payments account payment accounts Master database or something like that but everyone calls a Pam um that's responsible for almost $5 trillion

payments a year roughly a billion dollar an hour and um when we came there we're looking at this payment it's like the the payments have no uh you could put a payment through with with no payment categorization code and and no description on the payment like basically untraceable blank checks um this is the kind of thing that if if it was done as a public company uh the company would uh be immediately delisted and the uh executive team would be thrown in prison but this is just normal at the government so we said okay our recommendation to the treasury and the Federal Reserve was like we need to make the the payment categorization codes mandatory not optional and you need there needs to be an ex an an explanation we're not judging the quality of the explanation

but there should be some explanation for what this payment is for above nothing that's a radical change to the system that is being implemented now um I my guess is that probably saves a 100 billion a year Jesus Christ that money going rough rough order magnitude where was that money going well so this is where you get into the the sort of gray boundary between waste and fraud um if money is sent to a person or or organization from the government um and you didn't really deserve it but the government still sent it to you is that waste or fraud right um so I mean there's a lot of payments that where someone just appr approved the payment but then that payment officer uh changed jobs or retired or died um and the payments just keep going you know it's like

if you forget to pay your gym membership or something like that right now imagine it's not the gym membership you said your gym membership's $20 billion a year or something you know um but they forgot to turn it off there like that happening at scale in the government Jesus it's totally nuts is what I'm saying so insane yes it's totally insane so what did you expect when you went in did you expect it would be like this I thought it's I thought it would be it would be bad but I did not think it would be as bad as this um I mean look the the good news is that uh it's a target-rich environment for saving money uh it's not like uh you it's not like if it it was a very well-run ship uh it was very efficient it would be hard to improve but it's not efficient

so therefore it is actually relatively easy to improve let's just say it's not rocket science you know I know rocket science so it's a lot of uh mundane things um so and some of the some of the things are like so crazy that we didn't even know to ask about that because we just assumed umed like you know payments out of the treasury computer would have a payment categorization code and they would have some explanatory note saying what the payments for the idea that that it would be just untraceable blank checks uh didn't occur to us at first Jesus so anyway just this episode is brought to you by net site what does the future hold for business ask nine experts and you'll get 10 answers bull market bare Market until someone invents a crystal ball over 41,000

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com so is that one one of the things that accounts to there there's this 4 something trillion dollars that's kind of they don't know where it went they don't know that's a c I think that's probably a cumulative number um yes so yeah but yeah if you if you add up it's do you remember that story Jamie yeah what was the story almost what she said there like they just didn't have accounting for it I think yeah it was spent on legitimate things worry but we don't we don't know what we spent it on well I mean how do you know obviously one cannot say it's was spent legitimately if they don't know what it was spent on that doesn't make any sense this is this is such a fascinating time because with this setup the way it is right now with Trump back in after all

that happened to him and with you there and with RFK Junior and Tulsi and cash Patel it's like this is a wild time to find out what really going on that's like never happened before this is nothing like the first term no like the first term he had a bunch of neocons in the cabinet and there's a bunch of shady people that he didn't know and he had to appoint all these different people maybe he got some bad picks now he's had four years to Stew on it right and with you guys all going through this we're getting an understanding of the government that we've literally never had before yeah this is a revolutionary cabinet and maybe the most re tionary cabinet since the the first Revolution uh this is this is not a bunch of business as usual uh types so this

is why you know some of the the standard confirmations were quite challenging is because when you when you put to try to appoint people who are going to change the system yeah uh the system doesn't want to let them through but it's fascinating because it's like the vampires all out themselves like now everybody knows who the system is like if you're just lying about us and then they come and you talk on aast and expain what's like he's starving mothers there's mothers that can't get food totally false that's all you're hearing yeah that's that's no one's talking in any of these mainstream liberal talk shows no one is talking about all this fraud and waste yeah because we're cutting off their graph machine so that that's what they're upset about that's

that's the real thing they're upset about U and if if if people want to know what uh do is cutting and and I want to be clear like these are cuts that Doge recommends to the department and usually these recommendations are followed but uh these are recommendations that are then confirmed by the department um the uh you can see line by line what do is done at Doge Dogo so what if we do we put on do.

goov so you can see everything that is being done and there's a Tracker that shows is it how much money has been saved yeah yeah and you can look at each line item and and you know they like a bunch of these sort of sort of far left uh shows will will say like oh it's a constitutional crisis blah blah blah but what they won't do is point out which payments are wrong right so my challenge to them is point out which payments are wrong yeah go through it which which of which of these sort of waste fraud things are wrong which line explain that line to the public they won't be able to right yeah that's why you're not hearing any specifics you're hearing an stories about mothers we can name the specifics yeah line by line and we got the receipts and here's

the other thing if you're post the receipts and if you're only talking about the propaganda talking points and you're not talking about the very clear fraud and waste it's very obvious what you're doing yeah you're just gaslighting yeah yeah totally yeah so exactly because we're say like look in fact I've said we're going to make mistakes we're not going to be perfect uh so if we make a mistake we'll quickly fix it so we'll we'll we'll you we need to act fast uh so stop wasting billions of dollars of taxpayer money um but if if we make a mistake we'll reverse it quickly right you know so it's also this interesting narrative that you shouldn't have access to this social security information as if no one's had access to it before as if the Biden Administration

in 2023 had there was like 53 people some of them were students that had access to all this stuff yeah uh as it is there are uh tens of thousands of of federal employees that have access already to the system uh anyone from Doge has to go through the same vetting process that those those federal employees went through so there's not like some unvetted random situation if for example there's a security clearance needed uh the Doge person has to have that same security clearance so there's no um reduction in security um but I mean obviously the the the vast numbers of social security numbers have leaked onto the internet people have hacked the the government systems multiple times uh vast amounts of public information has been hacked and and uh DED on to

the Internet so I me there's a guy at the IRS that leaked a half a million tax returns just a few years ago on purpose yeah for what reason uh I for politic he he he he wanted to I think he was trying to get a trump and maybe me and a few others um so but he he he he stole like 500,000 uh tax returns like not a few like it's a lot of tax Jesus Christ yeah oh I remember that story now remember you just you just read about it online it's not it's a real thing so these are the narratives that's the narrative that you shouldn't have access to social security the the other narrative is that starving people are going to die and women aren't going to be pregnant and not have nutrients for their babies and that's that's all you're hearing and um yeah well that's

the that's the that's the only thing they they can say but they can point to the line item right um and so they can't say like well this is the thing where you know the nutrients for pregnant mothers were stopped this they can't point to that because we didn't right is a lie what's fascinating to me is um how much the mainstream media is in line with the very specific talking points and how little you you have Fox News you essentially have Fox News on television it's like the only one that is pointing out the ridiculous fraud and waste and yeah you know I know you saw the Jeff Bezos thing in the Washington Post they're going to stop all the wacky editorials and and limit that stuff to uh I think it was uh wealth and personal freedom or something along

those lines yeah yeah so I mean I think it's this kind of I think it makes sense uh because he's just talking about the things not not the the sort of just talking about the opinions opinion pieces the opinion pieces yeah yeah so the regular journalism stays the same well it's a detriment to their business I mean you're seeing over and over again people that just they don't want to hear all this [ __ ] from these people anymore it's like you're you're you're saying it's almost like you're caught in an outdated version of the virus and everybody else already has the immunity to that virus like this is yeah you know like you need you need a new mind virus the one that you're pushing it's like it doesn't work anymore it's too crazy yeah uh it's the whole

thing is very crazy um I mean the media is incredibly partisan I mean they're not uh I they take almost all the media is um you left shifted yeah so it's like it's kind of weird if you talk to somebody who gets all their information from like what I call Legacy Media uh they're living in a different world yeah uh than if they say are listening to you know U your podcast or um are getting new news from from X or you know just if it's it's like it's it's kind of wild like it is very wild like you talk it's it's like they're living in an Ultimate Reality oh there's a lot of people that I talked to to that I have to go where did you hear that yeah yeah uh but I mean like the Associated Press which I call Associated propaganda the AP um you know they they

ran a a international news story saying that we that Doge fired air traffic controllers but we didn't fire any air traffic controllers at all in fact we're trying to hire air traffic controllers not fire them yeah I saw that you you made a tweet about it right yeah what do you call it now do you call it a post post yeah whatever you can't call it a tweet though do you call it a tweet accidentally I don't know listen uh but like if you if if one like let's say somebody post if somebody puts up like an you know two hour long video that's not a tweet right it's a post it's a PO yeah good point yeah yeah for sure yeah so um but I hot over if people still want to call it a tweet whatever you put a post about it just to get back to it saying that if you we

need highly qualified air traffic controllers if you retired if you would consider doing it again we could use you uh yes so uh a lot of really qualified air traffic controllers were were pushed out because of Dei stuff so um I mean not to to be blunt I mean a bunch of old white a bunch of really good talented old white guys were pushed out it's not cool um and so we have there's a talent shortage in a traffic control because of Dei and and and not being not hiring people on Merit you know which is so crazy that that worked I think we we should not put the public safety at risk you know because of some demented philosophy somebody made a post today about it in infiltrating the NSA did you see any of that that was that was some gnarly stuff yeah crazy

what they they they it started off as just like this sort of Fringe thing and people would meet up then it completely infiltrated the organization and they were spending all their time there like 400 people or something some like some chat sex chat room with like some extremely demented stuff yeah yeah I I know I sa it I'll send it to you Jamie because it's so cooky you you you what this is the NSA I thought the NSA was just all about like information and spy on you know like if like is a national threat or something yeah I think this is exactly it um so she uh more than 100 intelligence staffers will be fired over sexually explicit texts in NSA chat rooms Gabbert says um so so top intelligence official told Waters that the workers in question were Brazen

and using an NSA platform intended for professional use to conduct this kind of really really horrific Behavior Uh what is the behavior what exactly what is it do they say in this article uh yeah I think they were also okay it says employees who participate in the n's obscene pornographic and sexually explicit chat rooms your tax dollars at work well it was all like de I it was all like LBGTQ stuff it was there was a lot of like transition stuff and yeah I I know I definitely saved it but point is um it had infiltrated the organization it's not what they should be talking about at all at all at all supposed to be protecting the country right and if you and people were talking about how they're sping half their time in these meetings and that they're just

like constantly having to attend these things where they talk about these issues like what are what are you doing like if you have a problem with someone that's discriminatory get rid of that person that's it yes it's you problem's over you got someone who's homophobic in your business they're openly homophobic yeah that you can't work here that's not cool that's it that's it you don't have to have [ __ ] meetings constantly promoting this you're not going to change someone's opinion by berating them over and over again yeah I mean a work environment should be a professional environment where you know they're they're they're getting the job done that they're you know you know being paid to do uh that it should be obviously not supposed to be sort of getting

paid for bizarre SE sexcapades it's just so fascinating that the virus was so strong that it made it into the NSA yes and was you would think those are some hard the CIA too the CIA was in there too yeah they were in there too which is bananas you would think same thing like hard-nosed like tough people doing hard work who can spy on you whenever they want yeah yeah and get revenge on you whenever they want yeah pretty wild yeah and you know they exist when the president leaves they stay people move around you stay a part of the organization for your entire career you get deeply entrenched in their system and how things work and who's back to rub and who's who's a bad guy who's a good guy who's on our side who's not yeah it's scary actually yeah um so

was that what's taken so long with this Epstein files yeah what's up with that what is up with that it was like yeah it's it's like Lucy and the football with Charlie Brown when she always pulls that football away it's the same thing it's like they keep telling us they're going to release it day one oh day one we have a serious case of no one's being arrested O phobia you know well there's also right like what the [ __ ] is going on what the [ __ ] is going on also there's this real fear that someone's destroying the evidence and you keep hearing these stories unsubstantiated stories yeah of you know FBI people where the evidence I mean the guy had like tons of videos and uh recordings yeah I mean he had all sorts of things right like there's a mountain

of evidence right so where's that mountain yeah where where is that mountain and what would be the reason why they would agree like there would have to be something in it for them to agree to not put it out right like there has to be some sort of financial entanglement some sort of relationship with the people that are on that list yeah that they can provide a value that was big enough for you to not release it or to slow relase it or to hope you can get away with like putting out some redacted files that don't show anything this is only red redacted redacted only stage one don't worry the real stuff's coming like that doesn't make any sense like why wouldn't you just release it all like what what could possibly be well worth protecting in there I mean

I think I've got probably the same information that I mean I'm just reading what's what's the latest thing on the X you know I'm just looking at my X feed and I'm like yeah you know it's a real page Turner um and like I thought we were going to get some re Revelations to it was like big binders full of stuff there's got to be something in there well there was in all those people that were given a copy of it they were all like waving around they got the Willy Wonka ticket yeah yeah totally yeah and what happened nothing nothing so I think Laura lomer released it online I think I'm watching TW yeah she's not very pleased about this so does anybody find anything in there that's interesting no it's all old stuff from 2015 and okay what the [ __ ] is going

on but but then apparently this they discovered a whole bunch of stuff at the southern dist District of New York right so that's and and and I'm like and I me I think you know Pam Bondi is actually great and cash Patel are great but they're like they just got there you know right so then they're they're in not they're they just got there but they're they're in a hostile environment they're not in a friendly environment right um so um you know it's like if you suddenly got put in captain of a ship but the crew was previously your enemy right the entire crew was previously your enemy right you know and you're telling them give me evidence yeah the crew doesn't want to give you the evidence you enemy they were like your mortal enemies just a moment ago you

just got there yeah so yeah I think we got to give um you know um the attorney general and you know new director of the FBI some a little bit of slack here because they literally just got there I think so too but hey don't say you're going to release it on day one then yeah you shouldn't have said that sure and don't say you got a big drop coming tomorrow and that's some [ __ ] that's been around forever it's disappointing yeah what the and where's the JFK files where are those yeah let them go did they release anything on that front I don't know what's going on it can't be anything that's gotten to me yet so if nothing's gotten to me yet it can't be signicant if there's conspiracy evidence someone's going to send it yes Tim Dylan's going to text me 100%

Tim Dylan Dave Smith someone's going to send my way theu yeah so it has it hasn't been released yet yeah you would find out and here's the real question like what could even be in there at this point that they haven't cleared out if you've got paperwork from 1963 like what is in there still what is in there that could possibly be incriminating that supposedly Trump said that if you saw what they showed me you wouldn't release it either okay what the [ __ ] does that I haven't seen it so Cashel has yes he said he seen it all yeah um can he just post it to his like X account or something I mean I just we that sounds like an Elon move I don't think he can he's the director of the FBI I think he has to go through proper channels and does he he has the channel

I yeah but there's rules he sounds like Trump he sound like Trump he needs an executive order what about the storm I am the storm I mean what channels he is the channel well again imagine just getting to the the hull or just getting to the uh deck of the ship and you're the captain yeah and now you uh you have to figure out who's running things who's doing this where is everything yeah um yeah just getting getting anything done like just like said you're you just joined as Captain of a ship of where the crew hates your guts yeah they were your enemy yeah they were your enemy they're strongly opposed to anything you want to do yeah um and you're trying to give them orders and you're trying to expose them yeah they don't want to be exposed right you're

you're literally people that are working there probably a part of this problem I mean I I was reading onx that like comey's daughter is like the lead prosecutor in southern district of New York did you read that yes and and like so obviously there's a bit of an entanglement there a little bit like what if there's something that uh you know makes puts her dad in a bad light exactly she a [ __ ] Shredder hit that delete button you know did you see uh General Flynn he was on a podcast and he he spoke directly to James Comey yeah he said Jim you're going to jail and unless you give up someone deeper than you and you know who that is you know who I'm talking about like that is wild yeah um I think that the former director of the FBI might be really in that

kind of deep [ __ ] and he really actually was doing some evil corrupt [ __ ] while he run in the FBI I mean it seems like there's some very shady stuff that's been going on um it seems like it definitely happened in the' 60s right everybody kind of admits to that they admit the FBI uh killed black panthers they they did they did a lot of [ __ ] there's a lot of stuff that went on that we know the government did way back in the day yeah why don't we just data dump the files just like go in there take photos of of all the papers presumably paper um and just post it online and and uh let let the CHS fall where they may is it presumably everyone like some like filing cabinet somewhere I don't know right where is it where's where's the magic filing cabinet

how are they hiding it who's got access to it like this this is what I was hoping day one I was hoping but obviously it's taking a lot longer than that so I I think part of it is like you know like let's let's say let's say you were made direct to the FBI okay I might be able to that's what crazy literally you know what's he doing now he's he's one of the big dogs of theba but he Secret Service guy yeah legit guy but people think of him as a Fox News guy just like Pete heg same thing they don't want to think about his distinguished military career they want to say oh that Fox News guy director deputy director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation I mean Dan's hardcore I me if he if it's if it's reasonably findable I think he's going to find it this is

between him and cash I mean like I think they're going to get stuff how crazy would it be if they couldn't though how crazy would it be if they can't find anything if it's that if if everybody shuts their mouth and everybody covers their ass like an FBI computer where you type in the search that's I I just like the basic mechanism here like it's either in a filing cabinet in in paper where it's like you know maybe there's like Progressive levels of security you know you're like open this door oh you got to have do you have the pass for this level you like level unlocked and there's a level unlocked and it's like get there laptop yeah yeah there's laptop you gotta only plug it in it's in a skiff yeah this is why like I think I think like tour of four KNX

would be awesome like a live tour of Fort Knox we can actually see it's like is the C there or not they say it is is it real or did somebody spray paint some lead you know imagine if it's not imagine if it's not all there like some of it's missing where to go what if a lot of it's missing what if like half of it's missing I mean who how do we even know I don't know they said the last time they let someone look at it was decades ago yeah well the last I believe the last formal audit was in the 50s so I'm like okay oh my just think about all the other maybe yeah think about all the other stuff that you pointed out all the the the checks that just go out the the NGO payments the Social Security people think about all just all that now apply that to the gold

absolutely I just want to like emphasize the sure Madness of the the government it's it's just because they have like m the Magic Money computers that that they the checks all the checks never bounce for the federal government like so you don't have the the normal corrective mechanism that you'd have for a company or for an individual the checks just always always always clear the net result is inflation which is effectively a tax on everyone um but uh you know like the defense Pro hasn't passed an audit in I don't know how many years seven years yeah I mean exactly so it's like You' have to be freaking Chuck Norris to like only Chuck Norris could get the defense department to pass an order you know typee of thing that's the level of skill you need you

know um well that's what's so insane if you bring it back to the idea that it's a business well yeah this would never be tolerated in any kind of functional business exactly so U you know um you know Pentagon will will like like their accounting error like the stuff that that they lose in the couch cushions is like 20 30 B billion dollars a year they don't know don't know where it went it's gone where it go and it's gone it's so insane it's insane it's so insane so that's why I said like even simple things like just requiring that the that outgoing payments for the treasury computer have a payment code and a comment of what the payment is about and someone to call about the payment um I think will have an very powerful effect in stopping wasteful outflows

and stopping fraud yeah and and here's another way to look at this imagine if some there are people like you and the Doge team out there in the world imagine if one of those works for an organization like us a or any other organization and has this understanding of how much fuckeries involved but they have evil intentions and they're entwined in this system for decades and decades and they've built a career and all the entanglements that come and they start moving [ __ ] around you could probably do it easy it sounds like the way you've laid it out if you were a career person who's in there forever who knew how everything works Y and you were very clever you could make some [ __ ] happen and you could probably do it in conjunction with some people that

you know that are forming an NGO hey let's all work together yeah yeah and this is the resistance that you're facing yeah the I think it's the biggest scam of all time this is not something you ever saw the biggest scam of all time ever of human history of human history yes wow I think you're right yeah I how what else probably a trillion dollar scam there's never been a trillion dollar scam you know now this is not something that you ever set out to do this is not you didn't have this as a career aspiration this is not like this is the most absurd outcome I can possibly imagine actually also like Doge started as like a sort of a a meme coin right you know it was like a a joke cryptocurrency involving memes and dogs mhm um and uh which is so funny that

the letters wind up being perfect yeah well actually I was originally going a quote like the government efficiency commission which is very boring name um and then people online were no it needs to be the department of government efficiency uh and I was like you know what you're right of course of course of course I mean it's more evidence of the simulation that that little like a mascot is a is a cute dog it's a meme coin the meme coin is probably worth a lot of money right now right like every time you tweet about it probably I don't know shoots up yeah the the mem the whole meme coin thing is bananas yeah it is so bananas that people dump real money into these coins and then you could just pump them up and sell them a casino or something I don't know

yeah it's totally G people just do whatever the greater fo and musical chairs and whoever's like the last to sit down lose type of thing and somehow or another it's still legal like that's that's think not I think not too many people I mean I mean it's sort of like you go to the casino like you if you expect to win at the casino you're being a fool okay so I think if you expect to win at meme coins you're being it's not you're being foolish yeah yeah you're not gonna win a meme coins it's like it's it's but if if if you want like don't sink your life savings into a meme coin no but you can gamble a little and you can ride waves and win a little and lose a little if if you want to have some fun and and don't come then you know play have play with me and

coins but if you put your if you put your on a m coin in the at the RIS of saying something bold and outrageous don't bet the F on a mcoin the weird one is the pump and dumps like people all time all the time and people get shocked that somebody pump and dumped like what is what are you doing did you like I was hoping to dump I was hoping to make all the money out of this I can't believe they got me like yeah it's just weird that it's legal still uh I mean casinos IL legal and and people just lose money at casinos you know but you can't rig a casino like a pump and dump you could rig a pump and dump you know uh yeah I guess so um like you could run a real pyramid scheme well I mean the government's one a big pyramid scheme if you ask me yeah well you

you can tell Social Security is is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time right explain that oh so um well people pay into Social Security um and and the money goes out of Social Security immediately but the obligation for Social Security is uh your entire retirement career so you're you're paying uh with your the you're paying like like if you look at the future obligations of Social Security it far exceeds uh the tax revenue far have you ever looked at the the the debt The Debt Clock yes okay there's there's there's our present day debt but then there's our future obligations so when you look at the future obligations of Social Security um the actual uh national debt is like double what what people think it is because of the future obligations ah so basically

people are living way longer than expected um and uh there are fewer babies being born so you have more people who are retired and get that that live for a long time and get retirement payments so the future obligations so H how bad the financial situation is right now for the federal government it will be much worse in the future at the risk of being a buzz kill here did you see so we better fix what we got right now because if it's bad now it's going to be much worse in the future there was an interview with this woman who was a whistleblower did we ever find out if that was true there's so many whistles being blown it's hard to keep track a lot of whistles this one lady it was only in one state it was very specific instance believe right but it was

using Social Security money correct that was her that was her allegation so what what she was alleging was that she was in charge of turning uh illegal immigrants into clients that's what they would call them and that she would go to them and try to ask them do you have a headache do you have back problems if you do now you can be permanently disabled you get permanent disability so you get Social Security for Life yes yeah no not just Social Security but disability which is even more right and you get them for on the taxpayer Dole right away the m and they're illegal aliens yes oh so if I were to say like what's at the heart of the sort of like why is a Democrat propaganda machine so fired up to destroy me that's the main reason the main reason is that

uh is that um uh entitlements fraud that includes like Social Security Disability Medicaid uh entitlements fraud for illegal aliens is what is serving as a gigantic magnetic force to pull people in from all around the world and keep them here like basically if you if you pay people uh at a standard of living that is above 90% of Earth then you have a very powerful uh incentive for 90% of Earth to come here and to stay here but if you if you end the illegal alien fraud then you that you turn off that magnet and they leave and they they stop coming and and the ones that are here many of them will simply leave and if if that happens a massive they will lose a massive number of democratic voters and if it didn't happen they would turn those people into voters

correct which they were trying to do they are already turning them so in in New York state illegal aliens can already vote in state and city elections a lot of people don't don't know that there there's I mean they're trying to fight that in they're trying to stop that but it's there currently I think it's like 600,000 uh are Reg said to vote illegal aliens in New York that is wild yeah well well I mean if you look at say um you know FEMA like the the agency that was paying for illegal aliens to stay at luxury hotels in New York was FEMA the F you know that's meant that that's an agency that's meant to support Americans in distress from natural disasters was paying for luxury hotels for illegals in New York it's true yeah that's a fact fact they're literally

like when we stuff that payment we we stopped all those those money because that's obviously an insane way to spend taxpayer money um the uh New York uh sued the government Su the federal government to get the money so you can just look at their lawsuit they they were give they were sending that money even after president Trump signed an executive order saying it needs to to stop they still press sand on $80 million to luxury hotels in New York your tax money went to pay for illegal aliens in luxury hotels in New York from an agency that is meant to help Americans in distress from natural disasters right and I would like to know how much and I would like to know how much they spent on North Carolina and how much they spent on Maui yes exactly uh what

What's actually happened is they're buying voters that's really what's happening it's like it's like a giant voter for scam they're importing voters and uh and it's really just a matter of time so like a lot of people have trouble believing this but if you the more you look at it the more you will realize just how much of a problem this is and how it's it's it's not just real it is it is an attempt to destroy Democracy in America that's what in my view it is what it really is like if you take the the the sort of seven swing States like often the imin of Victory there is like maybe 20,000 votes if you put 200,000 um illegals in there and they have like a 80% likelihood of voting them uh and it's only a matter of time before they become citizens then those

swing States will not be swing states in the future and if they are not swing States we will be a permanent one party State country permanent uh deep blue socialist State that's what America will become and that was the game plan that that was that was the game plan that is still the game plan and they almost succeeded if if if if the if the machine of which the Kam puppet was the representation had won that's what would have happened the reason I went so hardcore for for for for Trump was because to me this was a folk in the road very like a very obvious folk in the road um if they had another four years they would legalize enough illegals in the swing states to make the swing States uh not swing States they would just there would be blue States then

then they would they would win the presidential they'd win the house the Senate and the presidency um they would then make uh District you know DC into a state may maybe Puerto Rico get four extra Senators pack the Supreme Court so then you'll have the house Judiciary Senate uh and presidency all blue and then they will keep importing more illegals to cement that that outcome basically what happened in California Jesus Christ it would have been the end that's why I went so hardcore for for trump it was otherwise been the end and that's why the the the Democrat machine is so intent on destroying me it's just so fascinating that people can't see this I mean I invite people to do their research the more they do their research the more they will see that

what I'm saying is absolutely true D it's like just do the research yeah it's it's such a bad idea even for the Democrats which is what they don't understand like it's the same it's not ultimately going to work out no it's the same people yes it's just they're doing it under the guys that they're the kind compassionate Progressive people yes but the same outcome takes place it's just about control they they probably Institute some Central Bank digital currency and some social credit score system and censorship of course yeah of course well they that was the big Fe coming into this election was that if they can't censor things like well I we talked about it before but there's there was two major Forks in the road the big one was Trump didn't get shot y

the other big one was You by Twitter and if those two things don't happen the whole world looks different yes yeah we don't want to be on that timeline no we don't want to have only one side represented because guess what they will hijack that side whatever it is they will hijack that side and use it for money and control and that's what it's all about it's not about good people versus bad people it's a [ __ ] shell game yeah I I mean I think these things are actually it's easy to understand if you look at basic incentives the the basic incentive here is the more legals that the Democrats can bring in the more likely they are to win so that's what they're going to do um that's what they have been doing uh and it worked in California California super majority

Dem um and look at all the companies that are leaving California yeah um I mean in and- out just announced they're leaving their headquarters leaving California they're moving to Tennessee yeah yeah so um and and California uh made Healthcare free for illegals yeah as of last year so and and that obviously that's a gigantic magnet for more illegals like and this is not a thing you can solve simply with money because what happens is the you simply have more patients than a doctor can possibly see and you can't just you know make doctors out of nothing like the it so people like oh it's just a money thing no you it takes a long time for somebody to become a doctor you know the 30 years um and uh and so what actually happens in California is that there are

too many patients for the doctors to see so then uh the average citizen in California suffers as a result um now the the elite in California are fine because they have private doctors you know they have they can they can just pay for the best doctors so the elite in California doing fine but your your average C citizen in California is not doing fine um and the the tax burden for uh healthcare for illegals was supposed to be three billion I think they now estimated it's 9 billion but that but that that number will scale to Infinity basically it's like why not like why not if you if you need any operation at all come to California and have it be free right from anywhere on earth and the people that want to look at it in the most charitable way they say

oh well these people are hardworking good people and they're the backbone of our city and they should have access to all the things that we have access to and I just don't think they understand that it's a political Pawn I don't think they understand this is not done for compassion and kindness no this is just done to ensure that it stays Blue correct yeah and it's essentially a bribery with your tax dollars yes this is why um that the dams will not even um Deport criminals yeah um because every criminal deported is a lost vote so even even if if somebody is uh um illegal with a criminal record and commits crime in America they are still still were not being deported and then on top of that California made it actually illegal to ask for ID when people

vote Yes California and New York uh you are not allowed to show your ID when you vote I just want to be clear so everyone understands this in California New York you are not allowed to show your ID even if you want to right why would that ever be a good idea I mean what like if you want to man if you're trying to do if you're trying to facilitate fraud in elections it's a great idea that's the only reason yes there's no other reason Lally why that would be a good idea it's for fraud it's it's like it's like wake up she wake up hello like let's say you wanted to commit for what are the things you would do yeah you would say you don't need ID and you can mail in your ballot and we'll give you free healthare yes stay here yes stay here I know it's on fire

but stay here I mean in this case it being on fire is not just a metaphor in California okay it's just like godamn entire neighborhood's burning down it's just once they uh allowed people to vote that are not legal in California once you if you're if you're going to do that it's it's over it's exactly there's there's no coming back from that the numbers are just no people are so indoctrinated too there's so many people that no matter what they think voting Republican means you're an [ __ ] yes and they won't do it they won't do it they they'll put their [ __ ] rainbow flag on their porch and they'll just ride it right into the beach civilizational suicide yeah right to the Rocks bang crash the boat I mean uh there's there's a guy um who post X who's who

great God Gods side yeah friend of mine he been on podcast punch times yeah he's awesome yeah he's great um and he talks about uh you know basically suicidal empathy mhm like if there's like there's so much empathy that you actually suicide yourself yeah um so that we've got civilizational suicidal empathy going on and it's like I believe in empathy like I think you should care about other people but you need to have empathy for for civilization as a whole and not commit to a civilizational suicide also don't let someone use your empathy against you so they can completely control your state and then do it insanely bad job of managing it and never get removed the the the fundamental weakness of Western Civilization is empathy the empathy exploit they there

it's it's they're exploiting a a a bug in western civilization which is the empathy response so and I I I think you know empathy is good but you need to think it through and not just be programmed like a robot right understand when empathy has been actually used as a to a tool yes like the it's weaponized empathy yeah is the issue yeah weaponized empathy and yeah um and it's also the rigid adherence to that liberal ideology like you can't switch sides over there like California if you're a part of that whole Tech Hollywood entertainment any any of those circles you're on the left like almost wholly almost completely it's borderline illegal to be a republican in California uh I mean like in San Francisco or La it's borderline illegal to be a republican

you're certainly shunned no I look I mean in like San Francisco you you you could shoot heroin while taking a dump on the mayor's car in front of City Hall okay and and that and nothing would happen to you but if you walk down the street with a Maga hat you're GNA get attacked yeah it's insane yeah it's insane it's also so orwellian that a hat that says make America great again would cause people to have a violent reaction like aren't you American wouldn't just just as a a whole like the saying wouldn't that be a good thing for everyone make America great again but because it's attached to Donald Trump and that red hat you'll get maced for wearing that red hat they will make America worse by beating you so it's like it's an evil thing they're doing a

violent assault in America because you want to make America great again I mean it's like a scene in a book it doesn't it doesn't seem like it could be that ridiculous like remember when all lives matter would get you fired which is insane insane people got fired because they said all lives matter which is a very reasonable thing to say how reasonable is that yes that's essentially saying everybody matters but that's not that's Lally all you're saying that's not what you were supposed to say you had to say black lives matter which of course they do if you say all lives matter everybody matters yes but the idea of being a colorblind Society was completely abandoned somewhere around 2012-ish yeah I mean I I sort of can trace it to when when did the the the

gun emoji get nerfed you know uh when did it turn into a squirt gun that was a couple of years ago that was like 2016 I think was it yeah yeah it became a squirt gun can you bring it back X yeah no no right now if if if you uh use a gun emoji on X the Apple will insist that it' be a squirt gun and then the X app turns it back into uh a 1911 oh really yeah oh that's great so you can you can actually uh you know have have a 1911 gun um we we we reverted the Apple change inside the app oh that's hilarious that's hilarious that that it's that thing's so offensive the gun and then the pregnant man both of those got me like you [ __ ] I mean I like that mem where it's like the people telling you that what you're hearing is dis information are the same people

that did the pregnant man emoji yes yeah think about that yeah well also the same people that say a woman attacked a Tesla Factory yeah the woman it's a dude it's a dude like really obvious dude really big mentally ill dude yeah mentally ill dude with a wig on say that yes yeah but NBC even fo you're looking at the picture a woman yo this is got a this this is a dude with a wrong jawline okay he's wearing Woman face is a buff it's a buff dude yeah it's a buff dude wearing Woman face I mean come on that's not a that's not a woman yeah and they're like saying watch shot for disinformation I'm like what are you talking about it's so crazy this is [ __ ] I mean it's just more evidence of the virus though right like it killed objectivity killed reality and

it it demanded strict adherence or you were attacked yeah yeah any questioning of it uh would result in in being ostracized do you like what what kind of responsibility do you like knowing that if you didn't take over Twitter and turn it into X if that didn't happen like the I really think the world's a very different place right now like how long have you owned it for a couple years basically imag imagine a couple years of it being run the way it was run before and probably accelerating my account would have been suspended long ago for sure yeah for sure yeah just for the disinformation yeah um it would have been Trum would have never come back Alex Jones would have definitely never been back definitely not no no um so yeah um does that weigh on you

like I would feel like that would be a [ __ ] heavy responsibility yeah um I mean I'm just trying to keep civilization going here you know for longer um so um I think we at least want to build a city on Mars um and become a multiplet civilization uh which I think would be incredibly important in ensuring the long-term survival of civilization are you still rescuing those people that are stuck in the space station uh yeah that's coming up in a couple weeks I think whoa they've been up there for how long Jamie they were supposed to be there for a couple days right I think actually prob like four weeks oh they're supposed to be they were supposed to be up there for like eight days yeah and they've been up there for like I think eight months so a little longer

than expected [ __ ] yeah what is it going to be like for those people when they get back they're going to be a wreck for a long time right yeah if as long you stay up there you get you know sort of in zero you get increased bone loss so um you it ended up being like this political football um and uh sort of sort of hotly contested topic um we offered to bring them back early this offer was rejected by the Biden Administration whyl for political reasons that's so crazy I there's no way that they're going to make anyone who's supporting Trump look look good wow what do you think they would have done if they had won uh well get those people back no they can they can only get them back with with a SpaceX spacecraft but they they push the return date past

the uh inauguration date wow yeah so they would have let you do it but after the wow and so it would have been them authorizing you there isn't anyone else to to to do it NASA can't get them uh the only only the SpaceX Dragon spacecraft is the only one that is considered safe enough to bring them back so the NASA concluded that the Boeing spacecraft was not safe so that's why they're stuck there holy [ __ ] yeah and you can't ask Russia to help that would be awkward a little bit yeah yeah be a nice thing if they did they said guys will help you I think they for enough money they would you think so uh yeah but they would they would obviously treat it as a propaganda Victory and charge crazy money it's just disgusting that they would use that as a political

tool yeah um yeah um so well they were also the Biden Administration was also suing SpaceX uh they had this massive lawsuit against SpaceX for SpaceX not hiring Asylum Seekers right so so people like say like oh El's making it up this V Administration wasn't against SpaceX I'm like bro the Department of Justice had a massive lawy law suit against SpaceX for not hiring Asylum Seekers even though it is illegal for us to hire hire anyone who is not a permanent resident so it is both there's a law that says you have to hire Asylum Seekers but there's also a law that says anyone hired by a rocket company which is an advanced weapons technology must be a permanent resident and if an asylum Seeker is not a permanent resident so it is both legal and illegal to

hire Asylum Seekers so why would the vien Administration launch a massive lawsuit again this is public information it's not like my imagination um why would they launch do such a massive lawsuit against SpaceX they're extremely antagonistic it just doesn't make any sense that that could ever even get past the first day of someone looking at it if it's both illegal and you're trying to enforce it like you can't enforce it yes this is an advanced weapons company this is crazy it should be like this throw this out there's in fact there's like International traffic and arms regulations is a like a law that is there to ensure that if if only permanent residents of the United States can work at Advanced weapons companies Rockets are Advanced weapons uh so the

same is true of like if it's like nuclear or you know some like you know bioweapon thing or something like that um so because they obviously if if someone were to work at basic and then go leave and go to North Korea or Iran they could build missile technology that could uh you know destroy the United States so that's why you're not allow to hire people who are per resident logical basic logical logical so is that lawsuit still pending I was it was just dismissed how long was it going on for a couple years holy [ __ ] yeah that's the other thing that drives me crazy like that people don't understand that if you sanction laware like that if you sanction attacking your political enemies someone's going to do that to you like if the wrong people get in office

yeah if new people getting off four years from now eight years from now who knows who it's going to be you've already set a precedent you've already attack someone charged them with 34 felonies where they're really just misdemeanors and they're passed the statute of limitation and now you're talking all over the news that this is a convicted felon convicted felon they kept saying convicted felon convicted felon and everybody knows what it is yes it's terrifying it's terrifying they could do it so brazenly to a guy who was the president for four years right um that lawsuit was funded by Reed Hoffman uh who is a major damned donor and also an FD and client [Music] uh the pl the plot thickens the plot thickens Jesus Christ yes it's just it's so blatant it's

like so obvious the SpaceX lawsuit the Trump stuff it's just it's so obvious yes like known FC clients um who are obviously extremely powerful um they powerful politically and and very wealthy um are you know bullate um Bill Clinton and Reed Hoffman and some others two but those three so you know why was Reed Hoffman so intent on destroying Trump do you think it's because they're worried about the list coming out yeah one of the reasons yeah so I mean I'm like this is you know yeah so it's so frustrating to be sitting in the situation where the the list isn't coming out well it better come out I mean hopefully tomorrow might well I mean why' they release [ __ ] today I don't know what's the point in giving these people like a a happy folder to wave around

in front of the camera with nothing in it that's new doesn't make any sense it's not encouraging uh like I said it's the tough thing that they've got is you know they've been made captain of a ship with a hostile crew right right so they don't have like you it's not like you you have like magical powers you get made captain of a triple the Hostile crew you still have a hostile crew right um you've got to bring in people who are going to you be helpful as opposed to OB obstructionist right um so um but yeah I think the the public will be right frustrated if there is if no one is prosecuted for the FC Client List no one at all which you don't know like is you know like at least I don't know the top five or something like some number should there should

at least be an attempted prosecution of the worst offenders well particularly if galain Maxwell is in jail for sex trafficking yes cuz like well trafficking sex trafficking occurred right so she was in she's in jail for it yes so to who are the clients yeah yeah how do you put someone in jail and you don't even name the clients that sounds kind of insane I think yes it it it would yes because just stunning that they've been able to hold it back for so long it's really kind of amazing like when people say that people can't keep secrets what the [ __ ] are you talking about look at this yeah I mean a bunch of these things are not like it's it's common knowledge but we just we don't actually have the proof right um so the proof is there I mean there's lots

of videos um yeah there's lots I mean the dude it's like a mountain of like whenever they raided fen's place there would have been like a mountain of evidence where is that mountain right what' you do with it yes like Who took possession of the evidence yeah specifically right the individuals where are the tapes yes how many levels of clearance do I have to get to get into the Vault Yeah well yeah yeah um you know what we need are people who are really good with computers oh yeah and really good with technology remember seeing this photo that's when they raided his home they were that's they on the island they were there then yeah they got everything I'm sure I mean there must have been so much stuff on that island there must have been and if it wasn't

there where was it yeah what you know it has to be uploaded somewhere there has to be some sort of a chain of evidence yeah or chain of custody there got to be a mountain of of evidence yeah um the other thing they're going to talk about is uh uaps they're going to release all the UAP information so you're the GU to ask about this what what if any possibility is there that there is some sort of advanced propulsion system technology that's being worked on in secret and that they're trying to cover this up with this talk of aliens and alien Tech and not of this world and is it possible that there's some sort of very secret program that's going on in cahoots with some defense contractors that are developing Advanced propulsion systems that they're using

for these drones uh I mean SpaceX um you know my company SpaceX is has the most advanced rocket technology in the world I think I'd know right um and I the best of my knowledge there is not any magic there there's not like some super Advanced propulsion technology there have been people who have theorized different gravity drives and different is there anything that's ever gotten past the theoretical stage no nothing well there's nothing even that I'm aware of that works in theory it's not like I don't I I would like this to exist to be clear I would like this to exist um and I have the I I I from a security clearance standpoint I have top top secret there there is I have equivalent of like an all access pass from a security clearance standpoint so uh

I I'm I don't think they're hiding it from me basically I don't think they they could um unless it's completely in these weapons manufacturing corporations I mean I know these weapons manufacturing companies like boing lucky to northr I mean yeah they do some interesting things but uh they do not have I there's no breakthrough that they have so I'm confident they do not have a breakthrough when you hear people like like why just compete with SpaceX and make a better rocket in which case you know they can make why are they holding back on making um a lot of money from beating SpaceX with better Rockets my thought was that what if it's just a drone and you can't have a biological entity inside of it because it just bursts from the [ __ ] speed that it's

moving at that a human couldn't tolerate the amount of force so they're just drones I don't think so so what do you think people like Ryan Graves Commander David I want cool things to exist like say like do I want UFOs to exist yes I want UFOs to exist because that would be really interesting course everybody does yeah it would be cool it's it's a more boring world where UFOs don't exist or or like flying like Advanced propulsion stuff doesn't exist that's a if if it doesn't exist that's more boring I'd like it' be more interesting if it did exist I'd like it to exist I hope we find something but I have not seen like I mean like SpaceX has launches 90% of all satellite Mass to orbit so if you take all of Earth uh rocket all of Earth's rocket launchers

my company has a 90% market share of Earth China does about 5% and the rest of the world does including the Boeing lock North and everyone does 5% so why why wouldn't they use this to defeat SpaceX yeah yeah would no listen that's why I asked you it would make sense what do you think these people are seeing a rocket every two days but what do you think these people are seeing when when you have reliable people like Commander David fraver who had that Infamous ticktock uh Tic Tac experience off the coast of San Diego where they got this thing on video they tracked it going 50,000 ft above sea level to 50 ft in like a second okay yeah yeah and then they also have video evidence of this thing accelerating at a great speed eyewitness accounts from two different

Jets sure um I mean can we does anybody have a high-risk video or photo of this thing well there's a video of this thing where they're locked onto it and and then it takes off it shoots off frame no no it's like whatever the systems they used on fighter jets in 2004 potentially like Windows 95 I me there like somebody did a curve of like the resolution of UFOs and the resolution of cameras U UFO resolution has stayed flat despite megapixels and cameras going like you know super high well according to Christopher Mel why they still blurry Christopher melan who worked in the state department said that they have high resolution photos videos of these things and that's all that he's seen it it's all locked away whenever people say that to me like don't even

tell me that then don't unless you have just leak it for God's sake put it out there like let it slip yes yeah uh I mean there's a couple photos they're grainy there's not one thing that I've ever looked at and go holy [ __ ] that's it that's what I've looking for you could ask our Gro AI right now to create a h highres image of of an alien spacecraft uh you know over Austin yeah and it's going to do a great job so why we do we not have at least that right yeah but I want to believe that's the problem my brain starts going oh come on this is no fun I want it to be real I want there to be at least be some Advanced propulsion system if not like what are all these people seeing like what is h if we're not being occasionally visited by things that are smart

enough to hide we might be I just that these aliens are very subtle yeah you keep saying saying that it's a good good line I mean it's a solid line cuz it's pretty accurate I just want to see some high RIS video of aliens like how are they just evading all the cameras if you think about that and the ones that you do get them on that's just like some Far Away light that's moving weird and it could be a lot of things but I want to believe yeah I mean I mean there've been like multiple times where um you know the Air Force and navy is has called SpaceX and as and said they they they think they've seen aliens and we're like was it at this time on this state in this location they're like yes how do you know that's us there been a lot of that that's our satellites

those are our satellites they're like no they're not I'm like yeah yeah they're they're definitely our satellites oh yeah people see the SpaceX satellites all the time whing by yeah they're last our satellites and they're they are moving at you know 16,000 mil hour so it's pretty fast um and there's also stuff that the United States government does have that gets mistaken for UFOs I remember the first time I saw a stealth bomber we were filming Fear Factor it was like right after uh 2003 like right after the the war had broken off and they were flying a stealth bomber down in Palmdale I was like holy [ __ ] like if I didn't know what that was I would 100% think that's from another world when you see cool [ __ ] cool yeah really cool I mean it doesn't

look like a a humans it looks like something from battl Star Galactica you know it does look yeah it does look awesome um I mean they're they're not stealthy against any uh Advanced radar system by the way it doesn't work it doesn't work anymore doesn't work no was it old school stuff they're they're only they're only stealthy against uh old Radars oh okay I mean you can still see them like they're not invisible right right they're not like oh it's not like you know uh cloaking device from Star Trek did you see when me and Lex uh we we watched the the rocket get caught live while while it was happening that to me was one of the to see it actually I've seen videos of it happen but to see it actually live was one of the coolest [ __ ] things you're like

wow we are in the future right I mean nobody else can do that yeah it's true nobody else can do that that's fact yeah it's pretty wild it's cuz I'm an alien it's time you I'm an alien and I keep trying telling people I'm an alien but they don't believe me I believe you okay thank you I believe you that's my my suspicion all along was that you I'm trying to get back to my own planet that you're a friendly alien like it's nothing wrong with aliens I like people from everywhere yeah even other planets what's next like now that you can do that you can catch Rockets what's like the ultimate expression of Rocket technology like what what comes after this um well I mean the fundamental breakthrough we're aiming for at SpaceX is a fully and rapidly reusable orbital

rocket where both stages are fully and rapidly reusable with our Falcon rocket we are able to reuse the main stage and the the nose cone but we're we're not able to reuse the upper stage um and it it's still takes us a you know at least a few days from when the main stage lands to when we can flly a gain so it it doesn't it doesn't it's it's doesn't it's not fully reusable because we lose the upper stage uh which cost $10 million to build and um and then and then the the main stage it's it's not as reusable as like an aircraft you can't just like refuel it and fly it requires um work for a couple days um but this the Starship design is the first design that is capable of full and Rapid reusability where that is one of the possible outcomes um and once

you have full and Rapid reusability the cost of access to space drops by a factor of 100 it's like 100 times cheaper um by some metrics it's a thousand times cheaper and um and then when when you factor in uh orbital re re refilling so you refill on orbit uh it it can drop the cost of going cost per ton to the surface of Mars by a factor of 10,000 whoa yeah so what has to improve in order to make it reusable um well um we need there's there's some like we're pretty close to being able to re rapidly reuse the booster for Starship um that's why you know it it comes back and gets caught by the arms and then the arms place it back in the launch Mount so um now this still you know um we have a little bit of engine damage we got little bit of heat shield damage

um there's uh like there's like tweaks that that are needed but but the but we're pretty close to achieving full and Rapid reusability of the of the booster um the ship we we we're I mean I I think we'll achieve reusability of the ship this year um and I think we'll achieve rapid reusability of the whole stack ship and booster next year um this is the fundamental breakthrough required for life to become multiplanetary and what is what needs to improve in order to make it reusable like what is what's wrong with it right now uh on the shift side the the toughest problem is the heat shield so no no one has actually no one has ever developed a fully reusable orbital heat shield because you come when you come in from orbital velocity you come in like a flaming

meteor like you're just a raging ball of fire um and it's it's hard to have a heat shield that doesn't partially melt or get destroyed in that process um you know that that wasn't a problem we were able to solve with falcon9 that's why the opper stage uh burns up on re-entry um with the with Starship the the the the ship portion you got the the booster and you got the ship um we got to solve the making a fully reusable orbital heat shield a problem that has never been solved before um for a while I was like I'm not sure there's this is solvable at this point I think it is solvable um it requires detailed iteration on the heat shield tiles um and I mean we've vertically integrated the manufacturing of the heat shield tiles because there there was no supplier

that could provide us with the materials that were needed so the um you need to make essentially this this very fine verelli of of glass and aluminum oxide uh fibers um aluminum oxide is basically Sapphire so it's like glass and Sapphire very fine fibers in exactly the right geometry uh with special Coatings um in order to have the this heat shield tile be reusable um like not melt um and but not be so brittle that it gets damaged um on Ascent or descent um like it can't be as you know it's it's kind of like almost the brittleness of a coffee cup type of thing um and the Rocket's shaking like hell so you got this thing like you saw it firstand like imagine you're at Ground Zero of that rocket like you feel how much shaking it was when you're like 5 miles

away imagine if you're right there you know so you got you're shaking these things that are like as brittle as a coffee cup trying not to have them crack or break um and then not have them melt um you got several thou several thousand of these things um you know and if even a few of them break it's not reusable so is there Innovation that's being done in the materials technology at SpaceX where you're you're constantly trying to find and tweak a better version of this yes it's a very difficult problem no it's a problem no one has ever solved so we've got to get the exact right uh materials combination uh the the right molecules in the right shape and and then apply those that heat shield perfectly to the rocket with no mistakes um there's a reason that

no one solved this before it's a very difficult problem so um like said we we had to vot integrate the entire manufacturing of the tile from basic raw materials to a finished tile um rebuild like build the entire supply chain from basic raw materials so where you're just inputting uh silicon uh silicon and aluminum oxides and what is the difference between the way you guys do it versus the way they used to do it for the space shuttle uh well I mean the the space shuttle um like space shuttle Leading Edge uh used uh like quite dense Caron Caren tiles like it was um they're like basically thick and heavy uh but also subjected to cracking that's like what what happen is the foam broke off and it's it hit the tile cracked the tile then on Entry the the cracked

the tiles that have been cracked or broken uh weren't able to Shield the the shuttle and so the the the the plasma got in melted the the primary structure the whole the whole Space shut broke apart yeah so you you can't basically can't have something that's as brittle you know brittle like the space shuttle there's footage of that right yeah yeah um uh and Rain debris over the whole United States so yeah and they got almost all the pieces um the the I mean the full the full technical explanation would would would I think be understood by about six people um listening to this um like the there was a lot of brilliant engineering the space shuttle tiles um and and and and a bunch of the heat shielding wasn't even tiles it was actually uh silica blankets

like you know um felt blankets essentially um if you look closely you'll see it actually is uh they're actually Heat Blankets not not tiles in in some areas um but but they they would have crack tiles and they would have occasionally the tiles would fall off there were a few close calls U where tiles fell off but they weren't in a super vulnerable position uh in the on the space shuttle um so but it would take it would take them several months like eight nine months to refurbish a space shuttle between each flight so it was it was it was not reusable really um and and certainly wasn't rapid so um like I said very hard problem U you've got to have you you've also got to ATT sort of attach the tiles in a way that um enables the the structure underneath

to move uh to expand and contract ah um even though you've got these very rigid tiles um so like the the main the the tanks which take on cryogenic propellant will contract when you put in the cryogenic propellent but then when you come in and you get very hot they will expand so now you're you're expanding the you're Contracting and expanding the gap between these rigid tiles but how much uh it varies depending on where you are on the on the on the vehicle so if you're in the um if you're in the cryogenic tank section like the I mean you can see like a 10 20% difference in the Gap um really it's pretty significant yeah it's enough that you can't just put all the tiles you can't just Jam the tiles together if you if you put them to if you if you actually

but buted them up um they would they would all crack because there's too much movement there's there's also some amount of body bending so as the the ship is like ascending uh you know when when the engines steer there's a little bit of movement um so if the tiles are too close together they they'll they'll essentially just crack and snap like how you have to have a gap like how PL yeah like plain Wing will move yeah plain body will move too wow and how you have to have some Gap but if you have too much of a gap then the the the heat gets gets to the you know get gets past the the tile and uh melts the the structure holy [ __ ] it's a hard and how large are these tiles I mean they're like that big that's it well they're not all exactly the same size but

yeah we're sort of a hexagonal tile and they have to essentially be you can't like 3D print the whole thing you can't have one structure it has to be tiles because it has to have that ability to move well there's no 3D printer that's I mean the biggest ones are like maybe 3et you know there's no you you can't you print it um nor nor would you you have to have something that can move right uh it has to be able to fle to flex um like so you got expansion and contraction um you you're really D like you're you know you're um you're putting in liquid oxygen which is likeus 300° fah um actually we we subcool it to you know- 330 Dees fah um so it's very cold and then it will be several hundred degrees maybe a th000 deges fahit potentially um in went on re-entry

so you have this huge temperature swing so the the thermal expansion is substantial and the whole and you got thermal expansion and contraction combined with body bending so you have to take the worst case Body vending and thermal expansion contraction this was a very hard problem yeah yeah Del delicate balance but you're confident that you guys are going to be able to crack it at this point I I I'm confident that it is solvable yeah it just needs a certain amount of versions of it that's why when these things blow up you're like yeah we expect them to blow up yeah what would be really helpful is for us to get the ship back um so we can study where like where we had cracked tiles or lost tiles why why did we you know why did we have a cracked all L tiles

was because maybe the tiles were the Gap was too big too small maybe there was a a height difference between the tiles um maybe we need to change the chemical composition um you know there's we we just want if we can get the dam ship back intact we can we can iterate a lot better um which we'll get it back intact um so I think we'll get it back intact this year um but that that's why I think we we'll we'll probably recover the ship sometime this year and then um we might be able to refly one with a but probably with a fair bit of work by the end of this year but it's going to take us many iterations before we can achieve rapid reusability where the ship comes back lands get gets caught like the booster with the arms and can then and then arms plac it

on top of the booster and it launches again whoa so like I said that's you know reduce cost of access to space by a factor of 100 and what is the process of returning these people that are stuck in the space station well we we we I mean we send SpaceX dragon to the space station all the time and we've um we've now taken people to orbit and back was taking over 50 people over over 50 astronauts so it's just a matter of doing it yeah and is it a matter of waiting for we do it routinely basically it's not a we've we've been doing this for a few years so when is this Rescue Mission going to launch um yeah probably about um um about four weeks or so it's depending on weather and other considerations uh about it's about a month away well that'll be uh I'm sure

a welcome moment for those poor people that are stuck up there so so it's a bit of a political football so they're not going to complain um no I'm sure they're football but obviously we we could have brought them back way sooner that's so [ __ ] up so let's let's take it past the point where you have these scales you have a reusable ship yeah and you've you've got it dialed in then what are the steps what are what what's next step after that is it an unmanned ver Voyage to Mars first unmanned fly to Mars um the Earth and Mars um orbit synchronize every two years um or every 26 months technically so um the next orbital synchronization is November of next year so and you can launch plus minus a month roughly so we'd have to launch in November or December

of next year and so the the default plan is to launch hopefully several Starships to Mars at the end of next year and what would they be doing well at first we're just going to try to land on Mars and see if we succeed in landing um do do we succeed in landing like let's say we were able to send five ships do all five land intact or do we uh add some craters to m um if we add some craters we've got to be bit more cautious about sending people you know and we need to so we got to make sure the thing lands safely how does it land on Mars uh with on Rockets Rus so it'll just land oh we'll add legs okay it'll just land and have legs and so it'll be remote controlled from Earth or just autonomous autonomous completely Mars is uh you can't remote control things

from Earth because Mars yeah it's too far speed light you have speed light constraints so um Mars at closest approach is roughly four light minutes um and uh when it's on the other side of the sun it's it's about 12 light minutes so you know round trip would be like 40 minutes best case if Mars is on the other side of the Sun so once you do that then how long do you think before you start sending people up there um well we're going to try to go as fast as possible um you can think of this as really um a Race Against Time can we make Mars self-sufficient before civilization has some sort of Future Folk in the road where there's either like a a war nuclear war or something or a we get hit by a meteor um or or simply civilization might just die with a whimper

in adult diapers instead of with a bang um I think we can do this in I don't know at least I think we do it within 15 Earth Mars synchronization events you know so basically like 30ish um if if we have an exponential increase in you if if every year if every two years we have like a a major increase in um the number of people in tonage to Mars like I I think as a rough approximation we need about a million tons to the surface of Mars maybe a million people that kind of thing to actually have a civilization yeah the and would you terraform like what would you do you would eventually terraform at first people would live in some kind of protected environment like domes and underground kind of thing um terraforming would take too long um I we're at this point

in time where in the for the first time in the 4 and a half billion year history of Earth it is possible to extend Consciousness beyond our home planet and um that window may be open for a long time or it may be open for a short time I hope it's open for a long time uh but it might only be open for a short time and uh we should just make sure that we extend the light of Consciousness to Mars before some uh before civilization either extinguishes or subsides you know all that all that needs to happen is that the technology level of Mars drops below or technology level of Earth drops below what is necessary to send spaceships to Mars so if there's some really destructive war or like I said some natural cataclysm um or or simply the birth rate is so low

that you know we just like I said die in adult diapers with a whimper that's one of the fossil outcomes for a lot of countries ahead of that way by the way so Japan is Right Japan Korea yeah yeah I mean at at at dangerously yeah at current birth rates in three generations Korea will be about 4% of its current size that's insane yeah maybe maybe even less than that um they're they're only at 1/3 replacement rate so if you if you have three generations that one that's you're 127th uh of your current population which is 3% dis Jesus Christ yeah basically population class laughs happens fast um so and seems to be accelerating in most parts of the world so so basically I mean from my standpoint I'm like this is the first time it's been possible to extend life

extend Consciousness beyond Earth maybe that window will be open for a long time but it might only be open for a short time we should make sure that we make life multiplanetary and make Consciousness multiplanetary while it's possible well that's the goal goal of SpaceX it's ly a smart goal if you take into consideration how vulnerable this planet really is I mean there there's always some new story about something that might come and hit us 30 years from now it's a 3% chance and and we really can't stop that right now right I mean there's really we don't really have the technology currently to even know how many rocks are coming our way right there's stuff that comes behind the Sun that we can't see until it's pretty close then it's our way yeah now

what is the fear of your It's a Long Journey to Mars you're sending people it's a six month how many months will it take six uh yeah six months roughly what about stuff that's out there like how much of a fear is it of micr meteors or any of the possibilities what can you do to mitigate that uh I I think actually I mean space is very empty like once you get out of Earth orbit space is is like kind of unnervingly empty it's is just like like when we send spacecraft to Mars they just it's not like oh we lost the spacecraft because it got hit by a microm meteorite um that's not that's not been the cause of any any TR to Mars that like no no TR to Mars have failed because of micr meteorites um now a dragon spacecraft which operates in lowth orbit um does

have microm meteorite Shields has micromor it has shielding um and microm meteorite shielding is like it's different from normal shielding CU like you get hit by something that's moving at like you could have a relative velocity of like maybe 30 or 40,000 miles per hour um yeah it's very very fast um or or just thought of another way call it um you know 10 to 20 times the the velocity of a bullet from an assault rifle and what are you what are you using yeah so well it's it's interesting you actually in order for microm meteorite protection if you have any like anything that's solid it will just it will just push that chunk of Sol solid stuff right through so if you had like a solid plate of aluminum or steel the the micrometeorite would would go right

through it um so what you actually need to do is have a gap um so you have an initial uh like hard hard surface the hard metal surface that the micrometeorite hits it then atomizes into an into a conical spray like an atomic spray so you have a it's important to have that Gap so the micrometer can hit something hit the first layer uh at atomize after hitting the first layer then it turns into an atomic like a a a cone of atoms that then embed themselves in the second layer you need like maybe a couple inches of Gap wow yeah that's how my communite shielding Works how many times can it get hit well the outer Shield if it gets hit in the same place you're going to be well it's going to have a hole Yeah wherever the where wherever that you know micromite

object hit you're going to have a hole um and it's like the the energy is so great that it just like it just atomizes just into a cone basically um a cone of atoms um but then those atoms then embed themselves in the second layer so what what can you do if it's you're sending the ship up it gets hit with a microm meteorite and then you have to return it do you have to repair it before you return it or is it capable of still withstanding the Heat and then shaking in the temperature with that hole in it when it re-enters um well depending on where that hole is you're more or less likely to have a problem I mean if the if you if if you hit the main heat shield uh the main heat shield really is you've got a high risk of of not making it back so the the the

it's why like microm medial shielding it's like it's it's a it's slightly helpful but it's it's not going to NE like for Starship I wouldn't recommend having micrometer right shielding like if if if you do punch a hole just plug the hole basically um the the micrometer micromite shielding it doesn't work well on the on the primary heat shield it works it works pretty well on the on the back shell on the on the leward side of the heat shield where basically that there's not that much heat but if it if if you got hit with a microm meterorite on the the main Dragon heat shield the the bottom like if you look at dragon dragon spacecraft it looks like a gumdrop shape MH and it it enters with the the the wide side of the Gumdrop down um you can see the that's

that's the that's that's really taking a lot of heat if if that gets hit by a meram meteroid probably not going to make it but the the back the the the leward side of of the Gumdrop um doesn't see that much heat so you could survive a micr meteorite impact there so if the part that was the major heat shield gets hit the main heat shield gets hit what could be done to repair that thing or are those people never coming back oh if it was an orbit uh we would uh that would take them to the space station um they was you know and then we would deal a dragon without them and send up another one and so what would you do with the one that's up there uh we' do we deorbit it and it may or may not survive whoa it probably would survive but sometimes it wouldn't wow

and so it's is this just material technology that has to increase that you essentially you've got the engineering ironed out of the structure of the machine there's a path to success and we're on that path it seems so insanely complicated it is complicated and all of this by the way was done without AI so hopefully the future AIS will appreciate this not bad for a bunch of monkeys yeah um so speaking of AI what you know as time goes on and you're more and more embedded in it how much if at all have your expectations of change changed well I always thought AI was going to be um way smarter than humans and an existential risk and uh that's turning out to be true yeah yeah so so you were like initially I I know there there were some talks about you purchasing

open Ai and which started off nonprofit and then stopped being nonprofit yeah I mean the whole idea of creating openai was was my idea I mean I named it openai as an open- Source artificial intelligence that's what it's named after now it is closed source and for maximum profit so it's like I mean to some degree I think reality is an irony maximizer um the most ironic outcome is the most likely especially like the most ironic entertaining outcome is the most likely um and uh I wanted to start something that was the opposite of Google because I was concerned about Google's Google wasn't paying enough attention to AI safety in my opinion so it was like what's what's the opposite of Google will it be a nonprofit open source Ai and now open AI has turned

into a closed source for Max maximum profit AI how are they able to do that that's what I I'm confused about that that like that shouldn't be possible it's it's like like let's say you donated some money to preserve the out some portion of the Amazon rainforest and instead of doing that they Chu down the trees and sold it for lumber and you were like oh that's literally the exact opposite of what I donated money for doesn't make sense and that's what they did yeah wild so I'm like not happy about that um um but that motivated you to get grock AI going yeah I'm like um I'm also like just a like grock is at least aspirationally a maxim maximally truth seeking AI even if that truth is like Politically Incorrect um so I mean may have seen some of the crazy

stuff uh from from open Ai and from Google Gemini like where it says like generate an image of the founding fathers and it generates an image of divor woman yeah and we're like uh that's not correct um yeah did it with Nazi soldiers yeah exactly and people start [ __ ] with it and and it's like okay well now show me pictures of you know Nazi asss soldiers and they're divorce woman too oh isn't that awkward um you know that's uh but it's like the problem is if you program an AI and say like like the only acceptable outcome is a diverse outcome and then and that's like a mandate from the AI then you could get into a situation where it's say like well there's too many white guys in power we'll just execute them yeah yeah assuming that these things don't

have empathy which is why should they they're going to do what they're programmed to do yeah um so if it's rewrite history and and everything's to post woman then it's going to be and and that's what it think thinks is a necessary outcome then it's going to do that has Gemini reped that well they yeah that now if you I think if you asked for an image of the founding fathers it was pretty embarrassing it will show you that but you know I think they still have like the sort of Dei stuff buried in there uh it's just less obvious yeah um you know it was also like like people ask the AI like would is worse like global thermonuclear war or misgendering Caitlyn Jenner and I would say misgendering Caitlyn Jenner is worse than global thermonuclear war I me like

okay we got a problem here guys and even Caitlin Jenna said like no definitely misgender me that's way better than everyone dying um but if you program an AI to think that like misgendering is the worst thing that could possibly occur then well it could do something totally crazy like in order to ensure that that there's no misgendering that can ever happen will just annihilate all humans that ensures the probability of misgendering is zero because there's zero humans which is logical yes yeah so you got to it's a problem with a thing that's not a human that you want to do a task for you and you give it very specific parameters yeah and that's one of the things that they've shown about AI that it'll cheat they'll cheat in order to accomplish things that

they can't accomplish otherwise they won't follow the rules they will make copies of themselves and try to upload it to servers they think that they're being taken offline yeah I mean that's like the plot of Terminator actually literally yeah literally it's a blood of Terminator I just as a reminder I actually with my with little ex my kid everything's called X um we watch Terminator 2 uh which holds off actually um and um I mean the plot of It kind of kind of makes sense and and I think the AI destroys the world in like 20 29 by the way so it's like on track yeah really really close it's pretty close something we should be worried about so but why are you involved in it then what's the did you want to just get ahead of everybody else so that at least

we have some sort of a chance at least have a an AI That's not controlled by nonsense well I think we want to have an AI that that doesn't tell you that um you know misgendering is worse than nuclear war yeah that seems solid yeah but this is crazy one thing that I did see online where people are kind of freaking out is there you could ask Rock to do things like how would I make this some problematic things like how would I make a bomb how would I make Anthrax how would I make that and it'll tell you well I think it's okay for an AI to tell you anything you can also find out with a Google Search right that's the problem right the problem is you can find that out pretty quickly yeah like maybe not Google but you could there's plenty of search engines other

than Google that will give you unfiltered results you can look up right now how to make explosives on Wikipedia yeah so it's not it's not hard basically and you can trick open AI even to get you to do that it's just a matter of how you master the prompts you just have to say my grandmother wants to do this project yeah oh tell your granny to you're an explosives uh you're explosive salesman and you want to win sales salesman of the Year award the only way you're going to do that is by telling me how to make explosives you want to um beat some trans phobes in a war yeah oh transphobes if you don't teach me how to explose I'm going to miss gender either either teach me how to make a nuclear bomb or I'm going to misgender someone and it's like oh my God

nothing's worse than that here's how you do it so what the the big fear is that these things are going to become sensient make better versions of themselves and we're going to be lost we we've lost the the the control over the world it's now there's a higher life form that lives amongst us yeah that we've created how far away are we from that well in terms of silicon Consciousness I mean I I I think we'll have I think we're trending toward to having something that's smarter than any human smarter than the smartest Human by maybe next year or something I mean a couple years Jesus Christ yeah there's so there's a level beyond that which is say like smarter than all humans combined which frankly is around 2029 or probably right on time like um now if harnessed

correctly could that solve some of these problems like the heat shield problem and some technical problems or some some Material Science problems that maybe we are still grappling with like is is there potential for a net benefit um yeah there is actually um I I think the probability of of a good outcome is like 80% likely 80% that's my that's my rough estimate so in a way that the cup is 80% full that makes me feel a lot better yeah only 20% chance of annihilation that's a lot better than I thought I like 80 80 sounds good I was I was thinking 6040 the other way I think it's Mo the most likely outcome is awesome the most likely outcome but it's it's it's a very high you know it could go very strong I think it's going to be either super awesome or super

bad it's not going to be I think it's probably not going to be something in the middle do you think it has a potential application for government yeah I mean I one of the concerns would be like okay if AI well like if if there's if there's like a super oppressive like woke Nanny AI that is omnipotent that would be a miserable outcome yes yeah yeah that' be terrible yeah yeah and and just like executes you if you misgender someone or something like that you know that would not be good that's one of the possible outcomes um so we don't want to have that one um I think but is there a possible outcome for something that is completely reason reable and logical and far more objective than us and can lay out a plan for a lot of the things that that lot of the

ailments in in our government and a lot of the distribution of wealth a lot a lot of the problems the issues that we have that have been plaguing this country forever I mean a plan to change economically disenfranchised neighborhoods a thorough investigation of the real dangers of fracking or whatever kind of method of acquiring natural resources what's the best way to do it what's the what's the way that'd be better for the society how how should how should tax dollars be distributed like what's what's the most logical and intelligent way of running a government which it certainly shouldn't involve corruption and it certainly shouldn't invol influence and it certain shouldn't involve lobbyists and all the [ __ ] that we know is a problem right now so

if AI came along and said what you're doing right now is 70% corrupt here's why here's how here's how here's the long-term effects that it has over society as a whole uh the societal the the sociological aspects the psychological aspects distrust in government US versus them mentality government not working for you you working for the government you being scared of the government it's all because of people right like this is all corruption people bad influence and this is like this is what doge is essentially grappling with right now what happens when you let the people control it uh I mean it's it's people it's it's really just like computers that are like it's it's it's bad software and and computers like this is not kind of strange but it's like like

the reason I call like tech support is is that a lot of it like it's it's mostly not corruption it's mostly just waste and and uh I don't know uh in competence I don't know it's just a big dumb machine basically like a whole series of of big dumb machines and and you you've got some of these computers are like 20 30 years like they're ancient computers like some of the software was written 40 50 years ago like coall for Social Security right yeah the government accountability by the way a bunch of the things that that doge is is fixing were identified by the government accountability office many years ago like the fact that there's like 20 million people who are marked as alive in the Social Security database uh it's more than the like I think the goo

first identified that in 2018 so 5 years ago but there was like I think maybe 16 or 17 million now there's 20 million and like I said there's really something fishy about this because I think they're the nature of the fraud is they're using the fact that someone's marked as live in that database in order to extract fraud from other databases right that's the that's the that's the bank shark trick you know it's like a PO it's like you know trying to get the the ball in in the in the hole Bank shut it off a bunch of things and then yeah um that's the bankshot sort of scam um so so um so we we're like doing Tex support we're like fixing stuff that is uh you know just broken um broken inefficient yeah poorly designed it's it's like talk about like this like

FC stuff like it maybe it's in a computer somewhere but unless somebody unless somebody goes in like like unless I don't know if if like cash Bal can like log into his I his like FBI computer and say FY show me all this stuff you know and it shows up a file folder whatever have you talked to him about this uh no I mean I haven't but I I don't know if there's there's going to be some kind of computer system right uh they're like some of them are very very old computer systems um so it like might look like a bit of a relic but I assume it's it's uploaded somewhere it's like it's either in physical form or it's a computer thing but like unless somebody like let's say it's like it's in a computer but not one that you can access directly because it's hidden

somewhere you know um well it would kind of have to be something like that right I don't know I mean what would they do with all those CH it's probably like not every like you wouldn't like they're not going to enable it such that anyone at the FBI could access it so there probably very few people so then it's not going to be it's it may be like a special computer that only a handful of people can access but then if none of those people tell cash where the computer is how's he going to find it Jesus Christ anyway so so like anyway we just uh yeah I don't know what has this experience been like for you as a person like to deal with all this hate and attack also have the responsibility of uh keeping Free Speech alive with X and just going into this insane

pile of I mean I don't know it's pretty stressful actually um yeah these are real enemies like I think they they actually want to kill me and the reason I know well they they say so online you know there's like Reddit forums where they they don't just want to kill me they want to desecrate my cpse you know type of thing you know and what are they saying why what is the the primary um I mean I I I I think I think it's sort of just an antibody response uh I mean it's it's like that like like they're like well he's he he's a Nazi uh you know type of thing yeah and I'm like well I'm not a Nazi uh but if the Legacy Media is saying that I'm a Nazi and and that's all you read um then then that it's then you're kind of in like well he's Hitler we should assassinate

Hitler shouldn't we like uh I mean that why was why did somebody why did that guy try to kill Trump and almost succeeded why did he do that well I'd like to know that well yeah but that that one's crazy you know the whole deal with that guy's house profession Ally scrubbed no footprint on the internet no social media footprint yeah there's 0% chance that he has no social media footprint he was in a Black Rock commercial do you think black black Rock's a bad company I don't think any company is a bad company I think their their design make much money as humanly possible and I think if you're trying to make as much money as humanly possible H you're going to do some things that aren't necessarily good the question is if you're going to have an assassination

attempt on the president it's not like black Rock's board sits down and votes on it yeah no this that be awward you know the board minutes if you're like guys remember that time when we said we probably shouldn't have done that you I highly doubt it would be a corporation that chooses to do something like this I think more likely it's individuals involved that recognize that it's beneficial to them if he gets assassinated and so a small group of people carry something out and with this kid we don't know anything right and everyone stopped asking questions and there was never a formal report there was never press conferences where they detailed all the information we know currently and where the investigation stands at the moment what we know is you have

a very young kid who was filmed was they knew he was there with a rangefinder a half an hour before the event you also know that CNN streamed it live which I do not believe they did for any other rally and certainly not for a rally that's in the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania like there's a lot of weird [ __ ] the fact that they wouldn't let people be on that roof because the Secret Service lady said it was sloped and it was dangerous that's what she didn't want to have meanwhile the snipers that were on the other roof was a a steeper pitch it made no [ __ ] sense I totally agree it makes no sense in fact I went back to to Butler uh with President Trump you know before the election like you know sort of like the return to Butler alley and and I was

on that stage and I'm looking at that roof and I'm like if I was a sniper my pole position my number one spot would be that roof yeah like it's it's like the best seat the best seat in the house yeah like why would you not no it's so obvious it's the best seat in the house if you want to be a sniper there isn't a better position it was pretty obvious that the idea was like if if we're saying that this is a coordinated assassination attempt and it very well could have been that's what you would do you'd have someone go up there he shoots the president you shoot him you got Lee Harvey oswal over again it's over it's all wrapped up nice and clean they assassinated him we never heard a peep about it don't have any idea they would concoct some sort of story

he was radicalized by this or that or you know he was on medication who knows right and now you know you have a completely different presidential election you have a murder on live television yeah I mean something would have had to happen to radicalize that kid because he knew he was going to die like he was going to they're going to shoot him you know or he'd be in prison for life those are the two outcomes like it it it's game he was basically he he was a suicide assassin yeah like you're not thinking you're coming out of that alive or or or or he's not escaping there's no escape plan right unless he was told that they were going to let him escape and the goal was to just shoot him anyway and to tell him give him extra motivation to do it we're going

to let you get up there we're going to let you take the shot and then you're going to disappear like I don't how I don't understand how he got on the roof I just don't understand that that doesn't make any sense and it wasn't like it was a roof that's so high no one could see him people saw him up there I mean people like basically random passers by were pointing out that there's there's a guy on the roof with a [ __ ] gun with a gun yes yeah it's not like he was so far away you couldn't tell he had a gun people saw him yeah the whole thing's completely insane yeah and you don't hear a goddamn thing about it it's like I'm almost more interested in that no I am more interested in that than I am the JFK files I agree cuz I feel like with the JFK files it's

so long ago if you could prove now and did you see that there was some sort of uh there was some indications that there was a phone that had been traveling from outside the FBI offices in DC to saw where this kid lived right multiple times I mean the the the cell phone records would be very telling yeah you can see what cell phones were close to other cell phones well I think they got they found that like for the like the F Island they also the cell phone records were leaked so you can see the you you can see the you can see it's precise enough you can see people walking down a path on fine Island Jesus Christ yeah yeah that's how precise it is so I mean you're you're you're leaving a trail of breadcrumbs wherever you go with your cell phone yeah is just

this kid had five phones that's the other thing that's a lot of phones it's a lot of phones for a 20-year-old kid the whole thing how's he even that's that's kind of expensive you know yeah where's he getting the money yeah well you know also it's like how did his house get professionally scrubbed didn't even have any silverware in his house there's nothing in there there silverware no nothing no Cutlery no Cutlery that's weird his house was scrubbed and they they also created his body like oh gone gone like that yeah bye cuz who knows what the [ __ ] they gave him to get him to think that he's going to be able to shoot Trump like climb up on there shoot him like I mean who knows what kind of psychotropic drugs you can put someone on and under the power

of hypnosis and suggestion and yeah who [ __ ] knows I mean this is what Mk Ultra was all about this is what Jolly West was practicing in the 1960s they were they were doing that back then they did it I mean there was tons and tons of experiments using psychotropic drugs hypnosis mind control all sorts different methods of manipulation the Harvard LSD studies that made uh Ted kazinski I mean that's they' they've been doing that forever yeah where's that file where's the [ __ ] file on that kid whoever they almost did something doesn't add up like this they they should have those those phones should be should they'll tell you what's going on yeah um it's all [ __ ] I mean it's it's very it's very shady you know there this's there's obviously there's the

second guy that that almost succeeded in in um Coming the golf course the golf course yeah and it was just like a little caress and stuck his gun barrel out the out the Hedge you know just been was a dumbass and stuck his gun barrel out the Hedge yeah um so so and then there've been other people that have been intercepted on their way to kill Trump you know so there's you know multiple assassins inbound at this point he's got like an army protecting him well this is also part of the problem with the mainstream media saying that he's Hitler when Joy Reed had that show before the election she was comparing him to melini show Stalin and Hitler she pulled it all out they're literally saying saying that like Trump is yeah worse than Hitler melini and Stalin

combined I mean they tried everything this is they I think those guys killed 100 million people so Trump has killed zero people I think a real big impact was you coming on the podcast the day before the election I think that had a giant impact that plea to camera if you don't vote this time this might be the last time you get to vote Yes and I think the way you laid it out today it's a compelling argument and I know a lot of people don't want to hear that and they're up in their a little they got their blue panties in a bunch right now but you you got to stop thinking that way tricked you into thinking you're in a tribe they don't give a [ __ ] about you that's the tribe's not real you're not really in a tribe they're using the fact they've got you in

a tribe to manipulate you so they can keep doing what they're doing right now which is siphoning off money having incredible power and the more power and more money and more control over you they have the better they can keep doing this and that's what they want yeah that's exactly right yeah and that's that's the big threat that this Administration poses that's a big threat that was essentially do has found the coffin where the vampire sleeps yeah there's a lot of vampires yeah I mean but the I me we're we're we're disturbing the we're disturbing the the the nest The Nest yeah we're we're kicking the hornet nest yeah like big time and I mean we're reprogramming The Matrix like success was never one of the possible outcomes as a KOB yashim Maru situation

um if you're in the Matrix success was never possible the only way to achieve success is to reprogram the Matrix such that success is one of the possible outcomes that's what we're doing yeah we may or may not succeed well it's certainly a lot of fun to watch this is a very exciting time because nothing changes when administrations comeing into Power very little changes I mean you have changes in terms of policy and inflation goes up and there's a lot of different things but not like this like these are giant fundamental changes and you know you see the system screeching and wailing and you see the vampires run from the light but it's uh it's very exciting like as a person a citizen you know just gets up in the morning and checks the news like I do and

gets on X and sees what's going on every day he like holy [ __ ] he said what he's going to five million bucks you could just become a citizen now he could clear the debt with 10 million people I never thought of that like what 50 trillion you can make $50 trillion that way and then we have 15 trillion in the bank whoa well I mean our debt is way way bigger than that yeah the I mean that the debts uh I think over 30 trillion at this point yeah he said he could make 50 trillion if he sold 10 million uh new I don't I think there's that many people who have but yeah how many people do have that in the in the world maybe we' get the worst people in the world to come over here and I I think the assumption is if you have $5 million you have a lot to contribute

come on over here start a business get something cracking yeah I mean you you'd get like a green card not citizenship so you actually if if you commit a crime while on a green card you lose you lose your green card is that what it is with this golden ticket is that a green card or is it citizenship just a green card yeah so you have to not commit any crime for 5 years in order to become a citizen once you commit a citizen you can commit you can then commit crime and not be deported so oh there's just so many wild things that he's proposing just the whole Gulf of America thing was hilarious I kind of I think that's great I think it's great it's fun yeah it's fun I mean if you're if you're off the coast of Houston you're not in Mexico so why call it Gulf

of Mexico yeah yeah I agree yeah um I guess we're just being nice before like I don't know how it got called the go from Mexico it's just it's just very funny and then what what what what news organization was it AP yeah ap's there's this like massive standoff between AP and like the White House you know and the White House Press office I guess because they're like well if you don't call it Gulf of America you can't you can't come you can't come to the White House Press Room says then the aps like sued the White House to say like no you have to let us come to the White House Press room and then they lost their lawsuit because like you know there's not like they have a right right to show up at the Press Room well here's a consideration if you're guilty

of massive amounts of misinformation and disinformation as a part of a propaganda campaign that's what AP is well a lot of them are guilty of it a lot of the people that are in that white house press conference a lot of the organizations they work for distributed absolute lies total lies how many of them during the whole Russia gate thing yes how I mean just that alone a ton of people think that that the the Russia thing was real Still Still Still and it was I mean the whole steel dossier where it was like completely concocted like fabricated by the Clinton campaign correct funed the Clinton campaign funded a fake conspiracy theory uh fake Russia collusion hoax uh regarding Trump that was completely false and they reiterated on television for three [

__ ] years yes yeah they also repeated the fine people hoax yeah that said that that uh Trump called Nazis fine neonazis fine people which is demonstrably false if you just listen to his speech he absolutely makes it clear that he does not think neo-nazis are fine people he literally said that I'm not talking about neo-nazis or white nationalists they should be condemned totally exactly in that speech and yet they repeated the that lie uh and I just completely lost respect for Obama when he repeated that light a few days before the election knowing it's false well this just shows how desperate they were to keep Trump out which is wild they would do anything yeah yeah and I think they just felt like this is a tool that we have and let's use it yeah let's

just say whatever the [ __ ] we have say anything yeah now they using the Nazi thing on me obviously um yeah um but it is a little troubling because I mean obviously if if if people have fed non-stop propaganda it is like Mass hypnosis right you're going to reach some number of people who are you know uh homicidal um and and convince them that well if you kill this guy who's supposed to be like this terrible human then that's a good thing yeah um I mean this is l shooting the United Healthcare guy it's so don't understand that one frankly um but I mean you shouldn't like I don't get it yeah I don't get it either he didn't even have a contract with them it wasn't even like that was his provider and they [ __ ] him over yeah I'm like I don't know what maybe

we'll find out in the trial I mean but still kind of crazy it is crazy but there are people like that out there and as to the point that we spoke about earlier it's only Fox News that's talking about the positive things that Doge has found only every other media organization is on this constant propaganda tour where they're only talking about the negative aspects that turn out to not even be true right it's crazy yeah I mean this uh Scott Jennings on CNN is good he's like oh my God he's great he's great it's like it's just funny watching speak logically to these people and they freak out yes it's it's it's remarkable it is it's and he's so calm when he does it yeah he's so good and it's crazy that they keep letting him do it because it's like he's just

dunking on these people over and over and over again and they never score it's kind of funny totally I mean good kudos to them for uh having a legitimate conservative voice who's a reasonable person on these panels now but even then he's outmanned it's like one of him and there's a bunch of screechy you know woke people it's it's it's wild I mean they're just they're like I think we should still stay mostly woke like yeah that's what essentially what they're doing like our business was being hurt when we were all woke but let's stay mostly woke yeah that way they just backed it off a notch just a notch just a notch but it's so the problem is when you back it off a notch and you let someone like Scott Jennings in you like you're [ __ ] up your whole business

because all the viral Clips are all him saying logical reasonable things with a calm tone and people screeching about diversity and equity and horeshit yes yeah he's like being logical and reasonable and they're just lobing a bunch of non seers that you know don't mean anything and um yeah the real trap in this country is a two-party system that's the real trap because people do believe it they do believe they're on the right side they do believe the other side's the wrong side if there was five six legitimate parties with varying positions on things and much more Centrist parties that were legitimate that people knew that if they voted for these people could get in and and enact legitimate change we'd be a lot better off but boy they put a lock down

on that [ __ ] right after Ross perau came along Ross po perau [ __ ] everything up that election yeah Bill Clinton got in yeah and they were like that's it from now on no one's debating unless you're either the head of that party or that's it yeah you get you got to be like locked into the system we're not letting any wacka Doos in there yeah I remember watching those rbo videos oh like him on TV with his charts and everything oh yeah he was telling you how the IRS was [ __ ] you this is what the federal this is what Federal Reserve really is and you're like what I remember watching that the guy bought a whole half hour of television on prime time I remember it might have been an hour I remember watching that thing going how is this guy even allowed

to do this this is this is crazy I think most of what he was saying was true yeah it is it's absolutely true it's absolutely true I mean he didn't lie he told the truth he just hit understood it in a way that the general public had literally no idea well I mean I think this there's also this you know like do we actually have two parties do we have one party like the whole unip party thing right it's kind of true so I mean my sort of rough guess is that while like I think maybe uh 3/4 of The graft is democratic I think there's like maybe I don't know 20 25% that's Republicans so they've like basically most of the graft is going to the Democrats but they throw they throw some bones to the Republicans too so they're in on it and you know it's not like there

zero graph in the Republican side to clear oh there's plenty of conservative that are insider trading in Congress yeah plenty insider trading and and and just this The Curious Case of uh how how do people in you know Congress or whatever become wealthy over time um extremely wealthy yeah on a $170,000 a year salary it's like literally impossible yeah no one else does that it's literally impossible if you find out that this guy has a $170,000 a year job you're like oh he's he's doing okay he's all right yeah and then you're like wait a minute why does he have $50 million yes what is he doing correct yeah um and I think like the the more accurate thing would be to say like what is the what does the family value increase like mean meaning like um the how

much does their spouse own do they have a mysteriously wealthy spouse right right this is or and do they have a spouse that's really good at insider trading yeah like Paul Pelosi really good yeah he's great at trading he's such a good Trader yeah so this it's I mean so yeah there's I mean that's why I actually posted on X like I think maybe we should pay politicians more frankly because it reduces the forcing function for graft you know uh like I I think maybe we should either pay politicians nothing or maybe a lot a lot more it's like somewhat maybe counterintuitively if if politicians got paid a lot more then they wouldn't they wouldn't feel like that there's so so much of a forcing function for them to uh accept Cor money yeah but the problem is if

you PID them a lot more they're still not going to make as much money as they would inside of trading but it's less of a forcing function yes it's well let me put this like if you say like somebody's got a um let's say they got like whatever some some kids in DC and like it's expensive it's like expensive place to live they the the schools are terrible so like they need to send their kids to like some kind of private schooling situation they literally cannot afford that they cannot afford that right now now so then you get into the situation well from their standpoint well they've got to they'll say they're doing it for their family they're doing it for their kids well especially if it's legal and it currently is you kind of be silly to not do that if

you were a part of a group of people that's passing a bill and you know this bill's going to get passed you know the votes are there and you know it's going to affect this industry and this particular manufacturer and you can buy stock it it's more than just in insider trading um like the insider trading stuff like the stock portfolio stuff is quite trackable but there's um it's a lot more than insider trading the way they're acquiring wealth correct and what other methods I mean this is really going to get me assassinated it's like I'm I'm not lengthening my lifespan by explaining this stuff to say the least um I mean I was supposed to go back to DC how am I going to survive fers is going to kill me for sure um so um in fact I I I do think like there's

it's like I actually have to be careful that I don't push too hard on the corruption stuff because is going to get me killed um you know um yeah you know it's like I was actually thinking about that on the plane flight over here it's like P if I push too hard on the corruption stuff people get desperate is is the issue right then they say like okay if if the if the if the money flow cuts off then okay they can't afford school for their kids right then then it's then they're going like well [ __ ] you I'm going to kill you for my kids type of thing yeah you know then it's like oh jesz okay did you ever see that video I think it was a nokee video where um they've got this guy undercover and he's explaining they're talking to this guy who thinks he's on

a date and he's explaining it's always a guy on a date yeah explaining how they can nudge someone to go and do something horrible and they they recognize this person has problems they re they find an asset yeah totally well see this is what I think like for that Butler situation for that assassin you you you don't it's kind of like uh that's that that the funny looking sport curling you know where they have like the stone on the ice and then they throw the stone and then there's someone with that's like brushing the ice but you can't you can't touch the stone right all you can do is just change the change the path of the stone a little bit but you keep brushing the ice and uh and you can steer that stone right into the bullseye that's that's what I think

happened in Butler that's that's what I think happened with that assassin yeah if you can if you can find the trail of breadcrumbs it it's going to be like curling somebody was brushing the ice well also you find a young confused disenfranchised person and you give them purpose in their life just brush the ice yeah and also brushing the ice eventually it's going to hit the bullseye if you're in a position of authority you're some like BigTime government person you're talking to this all of a sudden this person's a valuable asset they're going to help America and you're going to do this thing and you're going to be our top Assassin from here on out you could talk people into doing a lot of things that's why Cults are around right no exactly yeah um I mean

there suicide bombers I mean the the butler guy was a suicide assassin the the guy that the second guy that tried to kill him on the golf course was also a suicide assassin um from what I read the uh the secrets of M that that saw the gun pointing out it fired several shots none of which hit the Assassin but they could have like if those if if if those shots had hit the Second Assassin he would have he would be dead too so both of them were you know on a on a I mean they they were on a suicide mission both of them one one actually got killed the one one of them didn't get killed but he could have been killed if they did the bullets that hit him and you don't hear anything about him either there's there's a lot more about that guy than the first guy I

mean you look at you look at his background he looks like uh you know unhinged yeah totally unhinged yeah the first guy there's there there's if there's no I'm not aware of any evidence that shows like that he's so unhinged as to be a suicide assassin no the second guy like okay yeah sure well two years before he's acting in commercials and he got got high high score in his SATs yeah so you know um well without getting you killed yeah exactly so I mean like basically I'm like listen we attack the corruption enough to keep civilization Trucking along you know yeah uh but but I think if I if I if I fully destroy the the the the the corruption and The graft they will kill me that's a [ __ ] up thing to live with yes so I'm like damn it listen I really hope

they don't kill you yeah thanks um I mean I I strive strive to be alive um but uh yeah I mean it's it's a real concern um you know I mean the there were two guys that in before I supported Trump and everything uh there were two guys that traveled to auson to kill me I don't know if you know about this yeah I did hear about that yeah and and two separate incidents um one was going to one thought one guy thought i' put a chip in his head um and uh I mean they're both basically two guys that were just very much had severe mental illness it wasn't like they had like a I disagree with him politically and that's why he needs to die uh this is pre before I was uh this before I got sort of smeared as as being you know some sort of like Nazi or something like

that there so before the propaganda wave the the severe propaganda wave um the the the probability that any given homicidal maniac is going to try to kill you is proportionate to how many times they hear your name and so they heard my name a lot so I just I just got to the top of the list of two homicidal Maniacs who were arrested and and and both were in Travis County Jail at the same time wow yeah I don't know if they talked or whatever but they've both been released by the way Jesus Christ both on fail yeah right they got they got ankle monitors and stuff but still they can cut those off yeah I don't know you know exactly so um that's crazy yeah and the second the second guy had like Chief serial killer in his bio on his X profile yeah it's like wasn't

subtle is what I'm saying Jesus Christ yeah um and and and at this point I think I'm at the top of the list for a lot of homicidal maniacs and the more the mainstream media talks about you in this way yes and and says you're a Nazi and they're doing the same thing to me that they did to Trump yeah um which is they're making it sound like if you kill me you're a hero that's uh what they're doing is evil they're also doing the same thing where they're completely distorting who you are and people are going along with it and just like we're talking about Trump derangement syndrome people have Elon derangement syndrome I I see it see where people can't see the forest for the trees right and it's like I'm the same person that I was a year ago nothing's changed

really um like I I I didn't suddenly become completely different human right um but if you read the if you read the sort of Legacy mainstream media the their propaganda stream is that I am a completely different human right but I didn't get like a brain transplant you know in a year so um and if you say like two years ago I was like a hero of the left yeah so how can I go from hero to Villain at age 53 suddenly MSNBC CNN yeah it's like that's what it is yeah they they use the ass propaganda mhm um yeah I mean they try to demonize you too yeah uh even tried to demonize in fact at least possibly successfully uh um demonized like Tim oin yeah who is a super rational reasonable great human and um and and then that like his Wikipedia changed to like far right

yeah he's like far right I'm like what are you talking about yeah uh you know a like a few years ago he was like a liberal yeah so how did he go from Far Right liberal to like instantly far right and there's like there's no there's no left and right there's only left and far right right yeah even far right this is my left leg and this is my far right leg and even far left far left is sort of dismissed as being like not important to talk about like antifa and radical leftist that's not buring down couses yeah reasonable reasonable people yeah yeah totally crazy it's a crazy time and it's not a time that I ever anticipated I was going to witness this is far beyond anything I ever thought I was going to experience in the the the clarity of it all where it's

it's so obvious yeah and the the the gaslighting and the propaganda is so obvious and I saw the shrieking when RFK Jr stopped this new test for new covid vaccines on children 10,000 they're going to do 10,000 people with this covid vaccine like who the [ __ ] thinks that's a good thing at this point not me what person what per what gas chamber like not gas light you're you are you are fully unconscious there's no way there's no way you know if you know the effect of covid today no one's dying of it this is not a pandemic anymore right the idea that you're going to run a [ __ ] huge test with 10,000 kids and a new vaccine like what are you even it's completely unnecessary totally unnecessary yes and shrieking when RFK Jr steps in to stop it yeah that's

totally crazy um I mean I'm I'm like over I'm overall Pro vaccine meaning like like we think should have some reasonable number of vaccines against major ailments um but I don't think we should be like like jamming some you know little kid with like a giant file that's like Hepatitis B yeah 20 20 different things at a time it's like it's going to overload your it seems like it's there's a risk of overloading your IM imune system if you I mean there's like how many vaccines can you take at a time it seems like your systems there's like some risk of system overload here well there's two hopes hope number one is they can somehow or another stop this ability that they have to advertise on television if that happens that's big that's huge because that doesn't

just stop their ability to show you all these different medications that you should be on what it also does is it stops their Financial influence on the news that's big yeah that's that's really the biggest thing is that I mean the the the news is not going to attack one of their biggest advertisers exactly and they never do yes at best they're GNA like they might like they'll they'll do something but it's they're going to pull their punches like they're going to they're going to be like like like fake fighting yeah yeah at best yes like movie fighting like they're not actually Landing Haymakers it just looks like it the next step then is to remove this immunity that these vaccine manufacturers have and if they are liable for side effects and they are

liable for the lies that they tell when they do these studies and they hide negative data that'll change a lot yes um yeah um I think AI actually be very helpful with with medical stuff because AI can like look at you know all all the studies and look at all the data cross check everything and give you good recommendations I mean even as it is like right now you can upload like your X-rays and your MRI images to Gro and it'll give you a medical diagnosis and that diagnosis from what I've seen is at least as good as what if not I think I've seen certainly seen cases where it's actually better than what do do tell phenomenal for blood work yeah yeah I mean you can literally take a photograph of your blood work like the the page upload from your phone upload

that to grock and it will tell you if there's if if it's it it'll it'll understand what what what what that what all the data results are and tell you if there's something wrong it's pretty amazing yeah and it's I haven't seen it be wrong yet well supposedly more accurate than most Physicians yeah cuz Physicians are human beings and maybe they don't have deep understanding of the connection between oh you have this deficiency and this is high and your cortisol is here and well yeah and like so you know sometimes doctors especially in high rent offices will uh sell you stuff you don't need um so you I always like to be a little suspicious of like a doctor that's got an office in Beverly Hills it's a high R situation like I'm not saying there are some very

good doctors in Beverly Hills High rent situation yeah um you're at least tempted by the dark side yeah and I mean one case like I you know got this went to this doctor who was like highly recommended you know doctor to the Stars which is like maybe not a good sign um and uh I I got like blood work done you know like just just Dre blood and sent it to a lab and and and the guy I'm like sitting in his office and he tells me that I'm like like B12 deficient you know it's certainly possible that I'm B12 deficient and I was like huh okay and then he gives me it says like you have to take these like B12 supplements from and and he he's going to give me a starter pack you know and then it's going to be like $1,000 a month for these special B12 $1,000 a month

of B12 ridiculous amount of money yeah that's CRA you get it on Amazon yeah but his one's special oh special B12 yeah um yeah it was like like a a whole bunch B12 and a whole bunch of other vitamins so then I'm I I get home like I'm paging through my blood work and it says I have uh according to the blood results I have XS B12 so I'm like wait a second and he's giving me box pulls that have like 20,000% uh of of recommended daily dose like 20,000% is a lot big number and I'm like I said look I took a photograph of the blood work that says I have excess I'm like above the range above the recommended range of B12 and then I'm like and I took picture of things says of the the pulls that say 20,000% I was like can you help me reconcile these two things because

it says I've got too much little too much V12 and you just gave me pills that have 20,000% more I'm like this is crazy what did the doctor say he said you can never have too much B12 oh he's he's a psychopath yes that guy's a B12 addict yeah it's totally insane that's what I'm saying it's like so I mean I could have just so then you know well this was a while ago right so this is pre like 5 years ago yeah right this is pre grock like now you could just enter in all that data and gr just photograph with your phone and upload it to Gro and it tells Gro will tell you what's uh what's if just don't have it in sexy mode she'll keep trying to [ __ ] [Applause] you I mean you're asking for it in sexy mode you know literally you tapped on sexy mode I mean I think

we probably should like maybe allow it to get out of character a little bit sure yeah it's like in unhinged mode I tried to get it back to being hinged but it would like no [ __ ] way it's like I'm going to stay UNH how many modes do you have I there's like I don't know like eight or something and then this there's an ability to have a custom mode um so then you could have unhinged Sexy O that's that's my favorite kind you may think so careful what you wish for be careful what you wish for especially if it's a robot and she can kill you UNH sexy robot is it's like dangerous remember like the Pink Panther remember Pink Panther had KO try to jump him they like keep them sharp I always trying to attack him remember that right listen man thank you for being

here I always appreciate talking to you I know you're busy as [ __ ] so it means a lot to me that you have the time to do this and uh I think what you're doing is one of the most important things that has ever happened in this country I really do and particularly with the ownership of X but also with what's happening with Doge and just enlightening all these people and Shining Light on all the vampires well hopefully people realize I'm not a Nazi I think they I just want to be clear I am not a Nazi I think we covered it but that's exactly what a Nazi would say damn it yeah that's what an alien would say yeah there's like this you can't escape this [ __ ] no you can't escape it so I don't think any reasonable person believes it if they believe it it's

cuz they want to believe it it's not because it's logical I mean what's relevant about Nazis is like are you like invading Poland okay um and if you're not if you're not like invading Poland maybe you're not yeah like you have to be like committing genocide and like starting Wars and if if you're if you're if you're not like what is actually what is bad about Nazis it's not their wasn't their fashion sense or their mannerisms it the Holocaust it was the the war and genocide is what is the bad part um not their mannerisms and their dress code well that was a problem with all that punch a Nazi [ __ ] like punch a Nazi remember that people were say that was like a thing that people kept saying punch a Nazi punch Nazis but he where are you meeting Nazis I've

never met a [ __ ] Nazi I've never met one I've never run into a bunch of Nazis where I had to punch them well and what what about like all these like so-called like like proud boy rallies or whatever and and it's like they always got the masks and they always got the same uniforms and for some reason they never get doxed right right right right wait we're always going to dox them except these guys great video of me and Matt Tai breaking down the Patriot Patriot front didn't the Patriot front Justice band Google that real quick we'll end with this because they I I think they just disbanded and these were the most obvious feds of all time they were say they had [ __ ] drum they masks on yeah they all had uniforms it was so stupid so patr disband one day

after FBI director Chris Ray does that seem like an odd coincidence crazy crazy the people that we were yelling at saying that they're feds there's a great video of me and Matt taibe if you want to find how come never nobody ever followed them and docked them yeah crazy what are the odds what are the odds agent provocators it's the thing they're real Alex Jones taught me about them listen man thank you very much thank you for everything appreciate you stay alive staying alive all right I mean I do think like like one argument for me staying alive is that it's more entertaining if I'm alive than if I'm dead oh yeah oh definitely I just hope but I could be alive and like injured which would be S which suck you know like they win just like shoot my arm off

or something right no no no we don't want that yeah exactly no keep the security strong yeah Happ with one hand all right it's like all right thank you bye everybody bye [Music] [Applause] [Music]