机器翻译,已尽力保留原意与数字
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在哈里斯堡附近多芬县的一场市民大会上,马斯克宣布,他将每天赠送100万美元,赠予签署美国政治行动委员会请愿书、支持言论自由和持有及携带武器权利的已登记摇摆州选民。
At a Dauphin County town hall near Harrisburg, Musk announced his $1 million-a-day giveaway to registered swing-state voters who sign America PAC's petition for free speech and the right to bear arms.
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观众
大家好。
观众
好了,
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我猜不知道为什么,这是一群支持埃隆的人。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢大家。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,感谢各位今晚前来,我很荣幸能来到这里并与你们交谈。我也期待听到问题和意见。进行这种问答、听听人们关心什么并回答问题,总是很有意思。而且,你知道,我觉得这些,这些,这些活动很棒。
观众
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
有一件事已经让我担忧了一段时间,你知道,但今年尤其愈演愈烈,那就是对《宪法》的攻击越来越多,具体来说,有人正在攻击你的言论自由权。有人正在攻击你持有武器的权利。而且你知道,如果没有持有武器的权利,《第二修正案》的存在就是为了保护《第一修正案》。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
而且你必须问,你知道,为什么这些,为什么它们会是《第一修正案》和《第二修正案》?这是因为在人们来自的那些国家,如果你说出自己的想法,你可能会被监禁,也可能会被杀害。所以他们才说,我们必须确保自己拥有言论自由。然后,嗯,我们要怎样确保自己拥有言论自由?嗯,持有武器的权利。所以,我的意思是,《宪法》的制定者当时肯定在对自己说,这个国家会火起来的。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。而且我相信,在场的每个人实际上都已经签署了支持那个的请愿书。是的,
观众
所以,
埃隆·马斯克
所以,我们正在做的一件事是,我们希望努力让超过100万、也许200万名摇摆州选民签署支持《第一修正案》和《第二修正案》的请愿书。因为我认为,这会向我们选出的政治人物传递一个至关重要的信息,让那些在意摇摆州结果的政治人物说,好吧,哇,这些州的民众确实很在意这些事情。这很重要。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
我们确实希望努力让尽可能多的人签署这份请愿书。所以我要给你们一个惊喜,那就是,从现在起直到大选,我们每天都会随机向签署了这份。签署了这份请愿书的人发放100万美元。
观众
所以,
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,我们面临的一项挑战是,嗯,我们怎样才能让人们知道这份请愿书?因为传统媒体不愿报道它。你知道,不是每个人都在X上。所以我就在想,怎样才能让人们知道它?嗯,我觉得这条消息真的会迅速传开。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,从现在起到大选期间,我们每天都会发放100万美元,从今晚开始。
埃隆·马斯克
好了,今晚获奖的人是John Dreher。
埃隆·马斯克
好的,谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
顺便说一句,John完全、完全不知情。
埃隆·马斯克
所以不管怎样,不客气。
观众
而且。
观众
是的,
埃隆·马斯克
所以,对于这100万美元,我们唯一的要求就是请你担任这份请愿书的发言人……人。就这些。真的?这就是全部。就这些。对,就这些。那么等等,你想说些什么吗?好的,好的,好的,请讲。
观众
谢谢你,埃隆,这太棒了。
埃隆·马斯克
我真的欣喜若狂。
观众
我要祝贺你上周成功接住火箭。真是个大曲球。
埃隆·马斯克
不过,是的,我已经关注你10年了。
观众
10年前买了你的传记,从那以后一直关注着,而且是你的忠实粉丝。
埃隆·马斯克
所以谢谢你。好的,嗯,很酷。
观众
所以,
埃隆·马斯克
是的,所以我觉得这挺有意思,而且你知道,它,这基本上似乎、似乎是钱的一种好用途。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
而且你知道,我们确实需要竭尽全力保护《宪法》。《宪法》的存在是有原因的。那份、那份文件中蕴含着伟大的智慧,而且如果有什么的话,你知道,我们会,我只是,它会拯救我们免受暴政。还有。是的,嗯,让我们看看。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
实际上我没有任何,比如你们可以看到,这里没有提词器之类的东西。我只是想着,接下来该说什么?我不知道。
埃隆·马斯克
不过你知道,值得重申一下我为什么支持唐纳德·特朗普竞选总统。而且你知道,我认为有些重要的事情需要发生。我的意思是,我认为我们想要的,本质上就是那些合乎情理的基本事物。我们想要安全的城市,想要安全稳固的边境。显然,我们希望支持《宪法》。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为,我们希望减少一些政府越权,而且你知道,实际上,我认为我们希望把自由还给人民,你知道,这样你个人的轻浮行为就会受到珍视,你可以做自己想做的事,而不会被各种监管活活压死,这差不多就是正在发生的事情。你知道,令人有些震惊的是,我想联邦机构似乎有428个,这相当于自建国以来每年将近新增2个机构,而且还在成立更多机构。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,我把这称为类似被过度监管扼住咽喉。
埃隆·马斯克
这太疯狂了。所以我认为,在特朗普担任总统的情况下,我们有真正的机会去、去缩小政府规模,实行合理的监管,并真正让美国人民可以自由地做他们想做的事。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我的意思是,我不确定这些算不算某种右翼价值观。它们看起来就是合乎情理的价值观。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,比如,事实上,坦率地说,我觉得这些竟然还会成为疑问,这很奇怪。所以这些只是显然应该发生的事情。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,你知道吗?我们直接进入问答吧,因为我觉得很多事情你们以前多少听过,或者外面的人以前听过,如果我不断重复自己,就会有点无聊。所以最好是提问题,然后这些问题可以引出有趣的讨论。
埃隆·马斯克
关于问题或评论,我应该说明一点:你想提出的那类问题或评论,应当是你认为公众会有兴趣听到的事情。所以,可以这样想:外面的人会有兴趣听我回答什么,或者有兴趣听你说什么?大致应该以这种方式来考虑问题的框架。请开始吧。
观众
嗨,埃隆。B.J. 沃曾。今晚能见到你,绝对是我的荣幸。首先,我只想感谢你的领导。我们大家都非常感激你正在做的事情。你居然还亲自来到这里做这件事,实在令人惊叹。
埃隆·马斯克
当然。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,你知道,非常感谢。我是说,我之所以这样做,是因为我真的认为,我们正处在命运的岔路口。而这次,这次选举绝对至关重要。我以前没有。我以前没有积极参与政治,而我现在积极参与政治,是因为我的每一种直觉都在告诉我,这,这就是命运的岔路口。
观众
所以。所以你显然对宾夕法尼亚州感兴趣,甚至还有传言说你可能想在宾夕法尼亚州投资。
埃隆·马斯克
那是,那是,那确实是真的。事实上,我和。对。
观众
所以。
观众
嗯,嗯,我的第一个问题是,你愿不愿意和我各出一半买下匹兹堡海盗队?我们现在真能把马克·库班气坏了。现在说真正的问题。你是个擅长数字的人。你。你正在看这些数字。
埃隆·马斯克
对。
观众
你在宾夕法尼亚州以及其他地方看到了什么,让你受到鼓舞?你又担心什么?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我看到的热情让我深受鼓舞,显然,今晚人群中的能量和热情令人难以置信。这就像,这真的令人振奋。它鼓舞了我,因为有时我会想,大家有热情吗?有让事情发生的能量吗?因为有时候,我们最大的问题往往是冷漠,你知道,也就是说,如果那些,如果那些可以投票的人真的去投票,那么特朗普肯定会赢。
观众
对。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我认为,其中很大一部分,是要让那些有时觉得投票无关紧要、或者一切都被操纵了之类的人相信,投票其实确实重要。如果他们一生中要参加任何一次选举的投票,就应该投这一次,这一次。这确实是一件大事。所以,你知道,我真的想鼓励外面的人,你知道,这是一次性的请求,就走出去,和你的朋友、家人、熟人以及你在街上遇到的人交谈,说服他们去投票。
埃隆·马斯克
显然得让他们完成登记,确保他们已经登记,然后。并确保他们投票。
埃隆·马斯克
这次,这一次,这是个大事。这次,这次,这次真的是个非常大的事。而且我以前从来没有这么说过,所以我,我。这次,这一次,我们,你们必须全力以赴,你知道。全力以赴。对。
观众成员
埃隆,我是参议员格雷格·罗斯曼。
埃隆·马斯克
欢迎来到宾夕法尼亚州中部。
观众成员
我们非常高兴你能来这里。
埃隆·马斯克
谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
所以你至少过去一周左右一直在宾夕法尼亚州。这个州,我们的州,有什么让你感到意外的吗?
观众成员
你注意到了什么?
埃隆·马斯克
你看到了什么令你感到意外的事?嗯,你知道,我确实在这里生活过3年,所以我并不是完全的陌生人。我在宾夕法尼亚州上过大学。所以,你知道,我并不是某个,你知道,像是会问“这是个什么州?这里怎么样?”的人。我在这里生活过3年。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,不,这是一个很棒的州。我真的很享受在这里度过的时光。而且它。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我其实认为,宾夕法尼亚州确实是这次选举的关键所在,你知道,所以我认为,宾夕法尼亚州走向如何,选举就会走向如何。还有,是的,
观众成员
是的。
观众成员
埃隆,我叫钱迪。我是这里的一名牧师。感谢你在宾夕法尼亚州的生命中心举办市民大会。
观众成员
我想问你,你会在特朗普政府中担任正式职务吗?如果会,会是什么职务?会不会为你设立一个新职位,让你帮助拯救我们的国家?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,会。所以我和特朗普总统进行过许多次交谈,他非常认同我们需要进行重大的政府改革。我们确实需要让政府退出人们的生活,让美国成为自由之地,这就是,这正是让美国伟大的原因,也就是自由与机会之地,你知道,这样你就能最大限度地提升人们的个人自由。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我们要确保,取得成功靠的是努力和才华,以及,你知道,踏踏实实地工作,这才真正应该让人们取得成功。而且应该只取决于这些,你知道,所以。
观众成员
你好。
埃隆·马斯克
埃隆,我是 Genuine Assets 的杰雷尔。再次欢迎来到宾夕法尼亚州。埃隆,我,我想问你的是,你人生中遇到的最大障碍,以及你如何把那个障碍转化为机会。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我想我遇到过很多障碍。
埃隆·马斯克
我当然没想到自己会,你知道,完成我已经完成的这些事情。坦率地说,我原本预期会失败。
埃隆·马斯克
所以其实只是因为我想成为。去做一些尽可能有用的事情。我想尽可能有用,其实就是这样。所以。所以我其实最初甚至都没打算创办公司。从宾夕法尼亚大学毕业后,我试过去 Netscape 找工作,马克·安德森是我的朋友,但他们没有回复我邮寄过去的简历。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我当时想,好吧,那我想我就试着写软件。我从小就在写软件。所以我要写一些插图互联网软件,看看能不能在互联网上做一些有用的应用程序。最后,我早在95年就写出了互联网上最早的地图和路线指引、黄页和白页。
埃隆·马斯克
而这其实只是因为没人愿意给我一份互联网方面的工作。就是这样。如果他们给了我一份工作,我想我可能就只是在 Netscape 或类似的地方工作了。
埃隆·马斯克
但我最好的建议其实就是,你知道,努力踏踏实实地工作,并努力对你的同胞尽可能有用。努力做到付出多于索取。而且我非常尊重那些踏实工作的人。你知道,那才是真正重要的。
埃隆·马斯克
最近怎么样,埃隆?
观众成员
很高兴见到你。我叫乔希。
观众成员
我非常担心孩子们。
观众
我在北边的怀俄明县长大,是个小镇地区,非常保守。我在宾夕法尼亚州立大学接受了经济学教育。而这确实让我疏远了父亲和我们家的小生意。我基本上是被当作接班人培养的,毕业后我也确实接手了,但大约1年后,它就有点崩溃了。然后我。我搬去了加利福尼亚,我也不知道究竟发生了什么。我们大吵了一架,我只是。我不得不走,你知道,当时是僵住反应。
观众成员
所以接下来发生了逃跑反应。
观众成员
探索了同性恋,考虑过转变为女性。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,这可真是一段旅程。
观众
是的。而且我觉得有。
观众
教育存在一个大问题,它正在让人们。
观众
我想我的问题是,除了我们能够对教育部产生的影响之外,我们还能做些什么,来帮助那些感到困惑、试图了解自己是谁、如何融入社区并有所作为的孩子。当然。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我觉得有,我的想法是,我的意思是,我看到的是,有大量宣传被强行灌输给学校里的孩子,而我觉得这就是在扰乱孩子们的头脑,你知道,我是说,任何经历青春期的人都会遭遇身份认同危机。你知道,经历青春期时,出现身份认同危机其实算是正常的。我认为我们应该,你知道,告诉孩子们,对,你知道,如果你感到困惑,那没关系。
埃隆·马斯克
这就像是成年过程,你知道,我们不应该把他们引向某个特定方向,或者让他们相信某种并不符合他们自身的东西。
埃隆·马斯克
只是,经历身份认同危机没关系。每个人都会经历。而且,但我在学校里看到的是,他们往往会把孩子引上一些他们,你知道,实际上不会走的道路,因为老师在把他们往那个方向推,你知道,还有学校里灌输的宣传。所以。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为,我们需要告诉孩子们,可以带着不确定性生活,存在不确定性是正常的,随着时间推移,一切都会稳定下来,而且你知道,不要做任何永久性的决定,你知道,无法撤销的决定就是无法撤销。所以,你知道,我认为我们绝对不应该对18岁以下的孩子进行任何形式的绝育。那不好。
埃隆·马斯克
设立同意年龄是有原因的。而且你知道,我们不允许孩子在18岁前纹身,也不允许,你知道,从法律上讲,饮酒要到21岁才合法,尽管这一点,你知道,往往遭到违反。所以。但我们只是希望人们不要在年轻时做出会让成年后的自己不快乐的决定。归根结底就是这样。而且我认为,可以说我们希望为人们的长期幸福进行优化。
埃隆·马斯克
但这意味着,就像我说的,要确保孩子期间不发生任何不可逆的改变。当孩子经历身份认同危机时,每个孩子都会经历。而这完全没问题。所以我的看法是,我们应该直接告诉孩子们,如果,当他们正在经历青春期和身份认同危机时,那完全正常,不要因此压力太大,事情最后会怎样稳定下来就会怎样稳定下来,而且你知道,这才是正确的做法。
观众
您好。非常感谢您,埃隆·马斯克先生。我叫伦卡·怀特。我是来自捷克共和国的合法移民。我们都非常感谢X。我认为这是我们唯一能够找到真相的平台,不仅在美国这里,在欧洲这样的地方也是如此。我的问题是,您对哈里斯执政与特朗普执政下媒体的未来有何设想?它会是什么样子,传统媒体还能重新赢得信任吗?
观众
X又会怎么样?当然。非常感谢。
埃隆·马斯克
当然。嗯,这是个很好的问题,因为有一个。我的意思是,有。我认为,在某种卡玛拉政权下,我们会看到大量审查。你知道,卡玛拉其实只是。坦率地说,她只是个傀儡。我的意思是,你知道,如果提词器坏了,她就不知道该说什么。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,这个,你知道,我就把它称作机器,你知道,本质上就是那种大政府机器。而且你算是给这台大政府机器安上了一张脸。而当拜登这个傀儡,你知道,不好用了,他们算是换了一个新傀儡。但显然仍然是同一台机器,而且所做的事情极其不民主。你知道,声称特朗普不知怎么成了民主的威胁,这很荒谬,也很虚伪,而拜登被撤下候选人位置这件事才是难以置信地不民主。
观众
是啊。
埃隆·马斯克
所以这说不通,但显然有人以虚假信息为幌子,强力推动审查。
埃隆·马斯克
而且。
观众成员
但是。
埃隆·马斯克
但实际上,“虚假信息”是一个宣传用语。它是。它不是一个。
观众成员
它是。
埃隆·马斯克
那么,谁来。谁来判定什么是虚假信息?政府。那太疯狂了。你知道,所以那。那就是,你知道。是的。所以我想我们会看到。
埃隆·马斯克
这就像是一个非常。这就是为什么我们发起这项支持言论自由和持有武器权利的请愿,因为它正遭到围攻,正受到攻击。但实际上,我们应该有自由的思想市场。人们可以提出一种观点,人们可以讨论一种观点,也可以发表声明。人们可以反驳它。你可以有这种。由人民来决定。而且,你知道,我认为这。让信息从人民的声音中自下而上地涌现,要远远好过由少数编辑和报纸主编来决定。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,那就是。是的。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,这种。媒体中发生的最大操纵,并不是媒体说了虚假或误导性的话,而是因为他们确实那么做。
埃隆·马斯克
但他们对叙事的选择,他们要谈论什么,就是那。那就是。
埃隆·马斯克
通过选择聚焦一件事而不聚焦另一件事,他们算是在引导公众接收到什么信息。而我认为正确的做法是,重要的叙事应该是全体人民认为重要的叙事,而不是少数媒体寡头认为重要的叙事。
观众成员
是的,
埃隆·马斯克
但他们确实喜欢控制信息。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我认为我们。如果卡玛拉机器获胜,那我们就会看到。我认为将会发生的是严厉的审查,而这就是为什么我认为这是最后一次选举。
观众成员
是的。
观众成员
多亏了你,卡玛拉不会获胜。我是切特。
观众成员
我叫切特·拜勒。我就来自宾夕法尼亚州中部这里。而且我不认为刚才的说法言过其实。多亏了你,卡玛拉不会获胜。我有2个关于选举本身的问题,以及你认为能做些什么,不仅取得胜利,而且取得一场大胜。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众成员
我现在确信,再次多亏了你,我们将横扫那7个我们必须拿下的州。但我也希望我们能拿下新罕布什尔州、新泽西州和弗吉尼亚州。所以我想知道,你对这场胜利能有多么决定性有何看法。然后第2个问题,正如先前提到的,我们和全美国都对你与唐纳德·特朗普合作感到非常振奋,以使我们的政府适当地缩小规模并提高效率。
观众成员
所以。
观众成员
因为这个信息如此有说服力,我想知道你的超级政治行动委员会能否更明确一点说明这一点,因为这关系到你推动这个电网升级。伟大的国家。
埃隆·马斯克
当然,我很乐意澄清这一点。你知道,我。你知道,我觉得我说的很多事情都只是在陈述显而易见的事实。但是。但有时显而易见的事情并不会发生,或者说,如果。如果美国不强大,如果西方不强大,那么其他一切都无关紧要。比如,你知道,我经营的那些公司,它们并不重要。基本上,美国是支撑西方文明这顶帐篷的中央支柱。
埃隆·马斯克
而如果那根支柱倒下了,其他一切都无关紧要。
埃隆·马斯克
其他一切都无关紧要。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,你知道,我一直试图鼓励很多,你知道,商界和科技界的人说,嘿,你只需要从长远考虑。你不。你甚至不需要无私奉献。你只需要从长远考虑,然后说,如果美国失败了,你的企业还有什么用?那并不重要。所以美国必须强大,而且,而且,支撑西方文明的10的中央支柱必须像一个o一样牢固。
观众成员
你好,埃隆。我叫乔塞尔,感谢你拯救了言论自由。
观众成员
我的问题是,当你领导政府效率部时,你预计会看到什么?你遏制政府支出的策略和优先事项是什么?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我接触过一些政府支出,因为,你知道,SpaceX有,确实有很多政府合同。我们为NASA、国防部情报部门之类的机构做了很多工作。所以我实际上见识过其中发生的浪费达到了什么程度。如果你和政府里的人交谈,他们其实也同意,是的,这非常浪费且低效。然后我就说,那么,我们为什么不采取点行动呢?
埃隆·马斯克
但实际上,要对此采取行动,就必须有来自最高层的授权。而如果总统是,你知道,如果我们有一位像唐纳德·特朗普这样愿意做出重大改变的出色总统,这会很困难,因为体制会反击你。你知道,体制不会说,哦,是的,不,完全没问题,我们完全乐意缩小规模。不会是那样,体制的那种抗体反应会相当强烈。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,我认为那不会是。他们不会,你知道,喜欢那样,基本上。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。但是你必须获得总统的授权。而且我们需要一位真正的总统,而不是一个傀儡,你知道。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,让这个体制害怕、让这台机器害怕的是,唐纳德·特朗普不是一个傀儡。他是一个真实的人,你知道,而且他不受制于任何人。这就是为什么你会看到,怎么说呢,你知道,他们正试图杀死他,你知道,而且,你知道,我曾开玩笑地提到,我的本意是开玩笑,甚至根本没人费心去试图杀死卡玛拉,你知道,因为没有意义。没有意义是什么?
埃隆·马斯克
他们只会再弄来另一个傀儡,你知道,所以我并不是在暗示应该有人试图杀死她。这毫无意义。但我只是说,我只是在作一个观察。没人费心这么做。为什么?因为这不重要。
观众成员
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
刺杀一个傀儡毫无意义。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的。
观众成员
你好,埃隆,我是来自宾夕法尼亚州韦斯特切斯特的查德·威克,我认为支持特朗普的人比以往任何时候都多。这里历来是民主党的地盘。我戴着特朗普帽子四处走动,总是有人走上前来,各个种族、各种性别的人都有,他们会说:“好样的,加油。”我当时就说:“加油。”
埃隆·马斯克
是的,MAGA。没错。好,那么MAGA,要高调,要自豪。加油。
观众成员
是的。
埃隆·马斯克
我鼓励人们在自家草坪上插上特朗普—万斯的标牌,并穿戴MAGA周边,因为很多情况是,人们,你知道,很多人,怎么说呢,他们其实愿意支持唐纳德·特朗普,但他们不确定周围是否也有人支持他。很多人都是这样,所以你得算是,你知道,如果你算是立起了旗帜,那么人们就会想,是啊,你知道,我看到其他人也在这么做,那也许我也会这么做。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,是的,谢谢你所做的一切。
观众成员
100%。感谢你所做的一切。谢谢你站出来支持特朗普,并公开发出自己的声音,因为这真的很重要,让大家看到你的面孔。世界上最富有的人,那就是你。所以谢谢你。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,我决定创办了一些正在做许多有用事情的公司,结果这些股票就价值很高。所以这就是,这差不多就是事情的发展方式。就像,你知道,但就个人开支而言,我并没有过一种特别的,你知道,我没有什么游艇,也没有任何岛屿之类的东西。我只是工作,你知道。
观众成员
晚上好,埃隆。我叫贾里德。很高兴也很荣幸能在宾夕法尼亚州这里见到你。
埃隆·马斯克
见到你们所有人也是我的荣幸和喜悦。是的,你们太棒了。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,这真是,这真让人振奋。我的意思是,看到这种热情程度,简直是。我的意思是,这让我激动得不得了。这太棒了。是的,我也是。
观众成员
美国。
埃隆·马斯克
美国。绝对如此。
观众成员
我有一个分为两部分的问题。A部分。我钦佩你的真诚,也钦佩唐纳德·特朗普,以及你们真正想让美国再次伟大。为了做正确的事,愿意放弃任何需要放弃的东西,即便这不受欢迎。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众成员
对于你一直在X上谈论的所有政府支出,你是否认为,将政府效率部与唐纳德·特朗普的政策结合起来,我们能够减少美国目前不到36万亿美元的国债?而B部分是,在你
埃隆·马斯克
做到这一点,我们必须,就是,如果我们,如果我们不对债务采取行动,它就会,就是,这就像,不知为什么,你知道,传统主流媒体就是无视美国正在疯狂走向破产这个事实。那速度是前所未有的。现实是,所有政府支出都是、都是、都是征税。所以即便如此,人们会想,嗯,这种政府支出和征税不知为何是彼此分开的,但其实并不是。
埃隆·马斯克
所有政府支出都是征税,因为赤字会导致通货膨胀。因此,通货膨胀实际上就是一种税,因为它会导致油价上涨,并让,你知道,那些只想过自己生活的人面临很多困难。但纵观历史,通货膨胀一直被用作一种有害的税税,因为它隔了一层。所以人们不会直接感受到它,他们算是。然后政客们会试图把责任归咎于其他事情。
埃隆·马斯克
但这一切都关乎政府支出。政府支出正是推动通货膨胀的因素。所以关键是,我们必须削减政府支出;如果不这么做,我们这个国家就会破产。事情就是这样。就像一个人一样,如果一个人的支出超出自己的承受能力,就会破产;而我们的支出正超出我们的承受能力,并且我们把钱花在了,像是,实际上并不造福公众的愚蠢事情上。
观众成员
没错。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。
观众
第二点。我相信你会和唐纳德·特朗普一起做到这一点。我只是告诉你,这不是会不会的问题,而是什么时候的问题,因为我相信你和唐纳德·特朗普真的会让美国再次伟大。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,谢谢。但我确实只想提醒大家不要自满。所以就是说,我们只需要以超级强硬的态度争取每一个可能的
观众
票。你有信心。不是自满。
埃隆·马斯克
对,没错。你要有信心,但不能自满。所以这就是为什么,我们必须彻底成为投票的传道者。真的,每一票都很重要。一定要确保你认识的每个人都已登记。宾夕法尼亚州的登记截止日期是星期一。对,星期一午夜。你可以在网上登记。超级简单。但是,要催促你认识的每个人去登记,因为星期一午夜之后,你就不能登记了。
埃隆·马斯克
那就,那就没用了。
观众
这是个愚蠢的问题,不过,当你削减政府开支,并且把所有这些放松管制的规定堆成一摞时,你能不能在X上直播,用“不是火焰喷射器”把它烧掉。
埃隆·马斯克
可以。
观众
烧个精光?对。
埃隆·马斯克
好主意。
观众
对。
埃隆·马斯克
我觉得把那些荒谬的法规堆起来烧成一场篝火会非常壮观。对。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,你知道,有时人们,有时人们会担心,比如,万一有某项法规其实真的很重要,而我们把它废除了呢?那就说,好吧,你知道吗?我们马上把它恢复。问题解决。
埃隆·马斯克
所以。
观众
好的,马斯克先生,感谢您直接与美国选民交谈。
埃隆·马斯克
景色相当不错,对,当然。
观众
先把您本人排除在外,拜登、哈里斯政府以及可能上台的哈里斯政府,没有与SpaceX等如此伟大的美国公司合作,两次把Tesla,然后甚至公开反对X,这说明了什么?
埃隆·马斯克
对,我是说,这,这,这很奇怪,你知道。
埃隆·马斯克
对,因为这,这,有点儿,有点儿令人意外,因为就像,你知道,拜登,你知道,举例来说,在升级6个月后,在白宫举办了那场类似电动汽车峰会的活动,并且明确,明确把Tesla排除在外。尽管Tesla生产的电动汽车更多。对,这很不厚道。
埃隆·马斯克
然后还把推动电动汽车革命的功劳归给了通用汽车。那是第二场活动。然后在那个季度,通用汽车交付了26辆电动汽车,而Tesla交付了300,000辆。所以我就想,而且你知道,Tesla目前大约有140,000人。这,这真的,就像有140,000人付出了大量的鲜血、汗水和泪水,努力制造非常、非常出色的电动汽车。而且你知道,毫无理由地受到这种冷遇,这到底是怎么回事?
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,那是不对的。所以对,然后还有那件疯狂的事,SpaceX参与竞争农村宽带计划,顺便说一句,我其实总体上反对补贴和激励措施,你知道,我的看法是,我们应该让纳税人留着自己的钱。但他们搞了这个类似420亿美元的项目,我们参与竞争并且赢了,我们本来确实能够向受飓风影响的各州提供大量星链终端,但他们撤销了授标。
埃隆·马斯克
这太离谱了。为什么?
埃隆·马斯克
而截至目前,在那个420亿美元项目中,通过这笔420亿美元拨款获得宽带服务的公民总数是0。
埃隆·马斯克
现在,如果你愿意的话。420亿美元换来0,我会称之为浪费。对,那就是浪费。这不是对资金的良好运用。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,所以还有一项大型政府计划,我想是70亿美元,大概是这个数,用于建设全国性的电动汽车超级充电站网络,而我想他们建了大约10个。
埃隆·马斯克
我就想,这是最恶劣的资金浪费。而且有太多这样的情况。所以你知道,钱就这样流向官僚和顾问,却什么都没做成,而且浪费的是你们的钱,这太疯狂了。所以我的意思是,减少政府浪费的机会其实,我认为很容易,因为浪费实在太多了,你知道,这
观众
不像
埃隆·马斯克
他们根本不在乎你们的钱,这太离谱了。所以我认为,政府效率部在削减成本方面将面对大量可下手的目标。
观众
你好,埃隆。我等了很多年,盼着你加入MAGA运动,所以我们很高兴你加入了。
埃隆·马斯克
对,
观众
我想我的问题是,你不断重复说,我们相信的这些事情大多都是常识。而我真的觉得它们就是常识。对。你有没有任何觉醒派朋友,你是怎么和他们相处的?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我是说,我最近一直在疯狂地让我的朋友们“吃红丸”,
观众
所以
埃隆·马斯克
觉醒派朋友越来越少了。至少他们仍然是朋友,但他们不再觉醒了。所以,你知道,他们,我想在,你知道,在那种,
观众成员
这
埃隆·马斯克
对觉醒运动一种还算正面的解读是,我们希望对人类同胞抱有同理心,当然,我们确实希望对人类同胞抱有同理心。我坚信我们应该关心人类,也应该关心未来,但我们的同理心需要是深层的,而不是浅层的。你知道,浅层同理心是关心罪犯,而深层同理心是关心罪犯的受害者。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,所以,你知道,为什么我们会把那些暴力的、屡次实施暴力犯罪的人释放到街头,而且往往无需保释?这太疯狂了。他们会侵害人们,侵害无辜的人们,你知道,于是我们的街道就不安全。美国怎么能号称世界上最伟大的国家,却连街道安全都保障不了?你知道,这太疯狂了。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,我当时在和我妈妈交谈,她说,就在今年,她大概有3个朋友在纽约遭到袭击,你知道,而且这。我就说,嗯,这。有人被逮捕了吗?没有,他们甚至都没尝试。这种情况不能再有了。你知道,人们理应拥有,你知道,或许是安全的城市、稳固的边境,以及诸如此类的基本事物,你知道。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,所以我认为,我认为这,我确实觉得,人们的,你知道,认知正在转变,我认为我们,我认为,我希望自己没有过于乐观,但显然,我天生就是个乐观的人。但我,我确实感觉国家的思维方式正在转变,转向更多的常识,也不再相信媒体告诉你的一切。而且我认为,事实上,美国人正开始意识到,传统媒体只是一台宣传机器。
埃隆·马斯克
在欧洲,他们仍然相信新闻。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我们得在欧洲下功夫。他们仍然认为新闻是真的。
埃隆·马斯克
但是,你知道,在这里,你知道,多亏了 X,也多亏了人们,我认为,可能意识更强了一些,而且拥有一项真正保障言论自由的宪法修正案,这帮助美国人,你知道,了解什么才是真实的。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,我是说,我确实觉得很惊人,传统媒体的口径竟然协调得如此一致。这太荒谬了。也要向那些制作合集的人致敬,你知道,在那些合集中,所有电视评论员都会一字不差地说同样的话。
埃隆·马斯克
是的。而且他们会说完全相同的话,你知道,但我是说,坦率地说,我认为这种宣传甚至都做得不好。甚至都没有娱乐性。而且,你知道,在拜登与特朗普辩论前1周,你知道,每一家媒体机构都在说拜登展示了他的攻击,你知道,完全相同的措辞,肖的攻击商店,一遍又一遍。然后公众明显看出,他确实不是一个更锋利者的攻击。
埃隆·马斯克
但随后,传统媒体立刻转而捅拜登一刀,并指定一位继任者。所以我们一遍又一遍地看到这种情况,而且。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,所以总之,但这就是为什么我们需要让人民发声。
埃隆·马斯克
这就是为什么我觉得有必要收购 Twitter。而且,你知道,收购 Twitter 的全部目的就是恢复人民的声音。
埃隆·马斯克
而且需要指出的是,过去控制 Twitter 的极左翼活动人士显然对右翼声音进行了极端审查,但左翼声音没有受到任何审查。他们封禁了一位在任总统。
埃隆·马斯克
Twitter 封禁了一位在任总统,这太疯狂了。
埃隆·马斯克
但左翼人士中没有任何人遭到封禁、审查或影子禁言之类的情况。所以,你知道,这是一个公平的竞争环境。
埃隆·马斯克
但我认为,那些所谓的极左翼活动人士希望所有社交媒体平台和所有传统媒体保持一致,原因是,是因为他们的观点见不得光。这就是他们的观点实际上站不住脚的原因。所以,除非所有人都鹦鹉学舌般重复同样的话,否则他们的观点就会失败。
观众
您好,马斯克先生。我叫齐恩·托马斯,你知道,我本来打算要100万美元,但我父母叫我保持专业,所以。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,实际上你仍有可能赢得那笔钱。
观众
不过,是的,所以您接管 Twitter 真是太棒了。我想知道,您在与特朗普合作拯救我们国家的同时,还有什么其他激进的想法。
埃隆·马斯克
是的,嗯,我尽量做到尽可能按字面表达。所以,你知道,在那个美国……你知道,美国政治行动委员会网站和 X 账户上陈述的价值观,都尽量做到尽可能直截了当、按字面表达。你知道,所以大致就是安全的城市、牢固的边境、合理的开支,以及保护宪法,尤其是言论自由权。而这些都是老的,就像我说的,都是看起来非常显而易见、坦率地说也很正常的事情,但这些事情并没有得到落实,而且如果卡玛拉机器获胜,它们就会面临严重危险。
观众
嗨,我是妮基,我一直在从事选民登记工作,很多人担心美国在以色列的军事行动升级,因为现在那里有超过100名地面部队人员。您对这个想法怎么看?由无聊公司提议在以色列海岸外建造一座岛,并称其为巴勒斯坦。他们终于可以像塞浦路斯一样拥有自己的民族国家了。中国、迪拜和菲律宾都做过这种事,我们终于可以结束这些无休止的战争。
观众
加沙能有足够的瓦砾来建造它吗?谢谢。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,那个。我的意思是,加沙确实是一个棘手的问题。你知道,中东一直是一个纷争之地,嗯,已经有数千年了。
埃隆·马斯克
我得说,我不知道那里那种困难局势的解决办法。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我不确定是否有。我不确定是否有好的解决办法。也许有,但。但我认为,我们需要确保美国稳固。所以我是说,我们就确保美国强大吧。
观众成员
而且,
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,有。我的意思是,我确实认为我们过多干涉了其他国家的所作所为,而且。
埃隆·马斯克
以及我们许多试图推动政权更迭的行动。事实上,国务院在实现政权更迭方面的成功情况糟透了。我的意思是,你知道,所以投入了所有这些精力,花了所有这些钱,试图影响各国的政权更迭,但在古巴失败了,在伊朗失败了,在朝鲜失败了,在俄罗斯失败了。什么。成功的地方在哪里?但很多人死了,也花了很多钱,可这带来了什么好处?
埃隆·马斯克
所以我认为,我们应该大幅减少对其他国家的干涉。
观众
嗨,埃隆。我叫卢克。我是一个住在河对岸不远处、热爱自由的本地人。实际上。我发现,我们关心的几乎所有事情基本上都取决于一场联邦选举,而这,姑且这么说,是不可接受的。所以,我和我的一些同事讨论过权力下放和地方主义,具体来说,就是在州和地方层面拒绝执行联邦这个利维坦的政策。是的,在州一级。
观众
第10修正案中心做了很出色的工作。拒绝执行联邦措施的依据是第10修正案。其理念是,没有任何权力是。
埃隆·马斯克
我的意思是,我同意。联邦政府不应该再给人民添麻烦。
观众
是的,当然。那么您是否认为,拒绝执行联邦措施是实现这一目标的一条可行道路。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我无法判断那在法律上是否站得住脚,是否会在法律上站得住脚。我的意思是,但我认为,如果有一个行政部门,而且我们还需要努力赢得参议院和众议院,但如果大家形成共识,认为联邦政府应该少做一些,并将权力归还各州和各社区,而我认为本该如此,那么我认为我们可以让它实现。
观众
是的。
观众
嗨,埃隆,我叫爱德华。参加这些集会有一点真的很棒,那就是你会遇到的人。星期二,在 J.D. 万斯的集会上。我和一些年轻学生聊过,他们想成为医疗专业人员。而他们最难应对的是从事这一职业所带来的经济负担,还要努力租到一套公寓以及其他一切。而且,我是说,我去过德国,那里的大学是免费的。
观众
所以,世界上没有人能告诉我美国无法做得更好。能请您帮助世上那些莱利吗?
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我认为大学教育存在很多问题。它已经变得非常昂贵,因为与教育部分相比,学院和大学的行政部分大幅扩张了。所以你会问,实际上有多少钱花在了教人上?
观众
非常少,
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,所以我认为,你会看到这类行政群体的人数远远超过实际的教授人数。而且,大学其实没有必要这么昂贵。它应该便宜得多。但这种官僚体系的蔓延和行政负担随着时间推移大幅增长,这正是大学变得如此昂贵的原因。这完全说不通。所以。
观众
是的,
埃隆·马斯克
但确实有。我的意思是,如果我们确实让大学在某种程度上免费,我们必须对此谨慎,因为那样大学就可以肆意浪费开支了,而且,比如说,那么无论现在的情况有多糟,未来都会变得更糟。
埃隆·马斯克
我认为我们需要新的大学来与现有大学竞争,因为真正重要的是你接受的教育有多好,而不是在行政管理的那些屁事上花了多少钱。你知道,我也认为,大学教育的价值在某种程度上被高估了,你知道,而且我认为,实际上有太多人花了4年时间,积累了巨额债务,然后往往并不具备之后可以应用的实用技能。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我认为,我非常尊重那些用双手工作的人。我们需要电工、水管工和木匠,还有,你知道,
观众
那可真不少
埃隆·马斯克
我认为,比增加政治学专业学生更重要。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,所以我认为我们不应该抱有这样一种观念,即要想成功,你就需要上4年制大学。这根本不是真的。
观众
您好,我叫比姆。很高兴见到您。我的问题是,随着选举临近,我知道您正在四处奔走,前往各个战场州。您认为购买广告对这次选举会有多重要?因为我们知道,在2020年,迈克·布隆伯格花了巨额资金,试图让拜登入主白宫。那么您是否正在考虑这件事?对,这就是我的问题。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,实际上,我不确定。我的意思是,在摇摆州花在广告上的钱确实多得惊人。事实上,民主党的支出大幅超过共和党,具体取决于你如何计算。我想民主党和共和党花的钱大概是多出 2 倍或 3 倍。此外,他们这边有传统媒体,他们那边还有一大群好莱坞名人。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,鉴于他们确实拥有,你知道,所有那些站在他们、站、站在他们那一边的力量,这场选举居然仍有悬念,实在令人惊讶。
埃隆·马斯克
所以,但是,但是我想你总得,你总得想办法把信息传达给人们。
埃隆·马斯克
所以我认为,我们可能确实需要投放更多广告,只是为了让人们听到这条信息。但是,但是在我看来,实际上最重要的事情,是让朋友、家人、熟人,以及你遇到的任何人登记投票,然后真正去投票。
观众
所以
埃隆·马斯克
这,而且这场选举可能会由,你知道,1,000 人、100 人决定。差距可能会非常小。所以每多 1 个人都会产生影响。而且我见过一些相当离谱的数字,我想即使就在现在,也有很多人申请了,有很多共和党人申请了缺席选票,但他们还没有把选票寄出去。我就想,伙计们,寄出去吧。拜托,把你的选票寄出去就行。
埃隆·马斯克
你能做到。选票就在你家里。把它寄出去。现在正是好时候。如果你担心邮寄,也可以亲自送过去。所以,是的,我认为鼓励人们投票非常重要。就像我说的,我确实在强调登记这一点,因为距离登记截止只剩几天了。所以现在的首要任务,就是让人们在周一晚上之前完成登记,然后确保他们投票。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我建议提前投票,然后你可以查看自己的选票是否已经收到。你知道,这个,我认为应该有更多共和党人提前投票。
观众
您好,马斯克先生,很荣幸能和您交谈。非常感谢您推动世界在各行各业向前发展,我相信现在您在政治领域也会做同样的事。所以我的问题是,鉴于唐纳德·特朗普最近遭到黑客攻击,您认为科技行业和政府支持那些优先保护隐私和通信安全的平台,例如 Signal,有多重要?您是否认为您的公司有机会与这个平台合作,或者更好地保护用户数据,甚至保障政府通信安全?
埃隆·马斯克
是的,我的意思是,隐私和安全之间总是存在这种争论,你知道,但我认为应当更偏向隐私。你知道,我认为我们确实不应该信任政府,我们就是不应该。
观众
所以。
埃隆·马斯克
而且我要说,即使,即使我身在政府,也不要信任政府。就像,那只是,你知道,我们,我们必须保护公民的隐私,而且,你知道,要确保人们真正享有自由,不会受到监视,或者,你知道,被操纵。所以,你知道。是的,所以我认为我们需要确保不存在什么后门和奇怪的东西,让政府可以,你知道,监视人们,并可能,你知道,对人们采取行动。
观众
是的。
观众
嘿,埃隆,我叫罗恩·布劳克,来自哈里斯堡。在问我的选举问题之前,我必须告诉您,我无意中在直播中看到了星舰两个部分的发射和接住过程,令人叹为观止,我知道在场的每个人都明白这一点。但我希望您为自己正在全世界激发出的这种鼓舞得到认可。我当时在办公室里欢呼,就像看着这东西降下来一样,所以为此感谢您。
埃隆·马斯克
非常不客气。我的意思是,我认为这,这确实,是的,我的意思是,它当然也鼓舞了我,而那,那是,那证明了 SpaceX 团队所做的不可思议的工作。这是一支非常有才华、极其努力的团队,而且,你知道,让火箭实现完全且快速的重复使用,确实是将为人类打开太空大门的事情,并让我们能够在月球建立基地、在火星建造城市,成为一个承载太空的文明。
埃隆·马斯克
所以很多人没有意识到,比如可扩展火箭和可重复使用火箭之间的差异,比如至少是 10,000%,你可以这样理解。就是,你知道,要知道,给汽车加满油与买一辆汽车分别要花多少钱?火箭也是同样的差异,你知道,你会。如果你必须,如果每次飞行都需要一枚新火箭,那会极其昂贵且困难;但如果你只需要给火箭重新加注燃料,成本就会大幅降低,就像汽车或飞机一样。
埃隆·马斯克
明白了。
观众
实现这一切,以及完成接住和在海洋中着陆,实在太出色了。是的。好的,所以我的,我的问题是,2020 年选举之夜,我坐下来看计票结果,然后我看着他们窃取了选举。好的。我亲眼看到了,整晚都在看。
埃隆·马斯克
好的。
观众
如果你当时在看,那么晚上9点福克斯宣布亚利桑那州结果时,你就知道大势已去了。就是那个时刻。好吧。但比那更糟的是,在接下来的几个月里,眼看着法院以及法院里的那些猫腻,还有特朗普得到的有力代理不足,而且什么都没有发生,因为显然存在问题,但法院里似乎根本没有发生任何事情。而从那天到现在,看起来什么都没有改变。
观众
所以我们就要。我认为选票很重要,但计票才是重要的。如果法院被腐化了,就不会有任何进展。所以您是否,您是否参与了这件事?看起来您好像意识到了这一点。您怎样才能帮助解决这个问题,让我们不会再次遇到这个问题?
埃隆·马斯克
是的,嗯,我是说,如果胜选优势足够大,那么我认为它就能超过任何可能发生的作弊。所以我们的目标必须是取得巨大的领先优势。这是关键。真正要以一种让任何猫腻都无从发生的优势为目标。但在X平台上,我当然会邀请大家。如果投票出现任何问题,如果人们认为存在舞弊,那他们就发布图片、发布视频、发布证据,让我们用强光照一照。
埃隆·马斯克
而光照得越亮,作弊就越困难。
观众
你好,埃隆,很高兴认识你。感谢你为人类所做的工作。我们的世界现在正在发生很多变化,我们自己的国家也正在发生很多变化。而这些变化被视为混乱。但我总是说,如果没有混乱,我们就无法体验和平。如果没有混乱,我们就无法体验成长和演化。
观众
而随着AI成为新出现的事物,并以惊人的速度进步,我想我的问题是,你预见唐纳德·特朗普总统当选会如何影响技术进步和社会转型。
埃隆·马斯克
嗯,我认为,减轻过度监管造成的那种扼杀是件极其重要的事。
埃隆·马斯克
我们刚才谈到的那枚火箭在发射台上停了2个月,等待文书得到处理。SpaceX团队建造一枚巨型火箭,竟然比政府把文件从一张办公桌移到另一张还快,这简直荒唐。这实在太疯狂了。
埃隆·马斯克
而问题在于,这种情况每年都越来越糟。所以,如果那列火车继续前进,那就只会变成违法的。你知道,我们就会什么事都办不成。所以,这个,这就是为什么我把它称作这种、这种极端的过度监管,每年都有新的机构被设立出来。而办成任何事情的难度,就像是所涉及机构数量的平方。所以,如果有1个机构,难度就像是1;但如果有3个机构,难度就像是增加到9倍,因为它们全都必须彼此会面。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,你知道,我们会遇到疯狂的事情。比如SpaceX因为把可饮用的饮用水排到地面上而被罚了140,000美元
观众
在
埃隆·马斯克
星舰基地,也就是我们发射火箭的地方,因为我们用水冷却发射台。出于过度谨慎,我们说,你知道,我们要运来饮用水,只是为了确保万无一失,然后用它冷却发射台。我们不知道这样居然需要某种许可证。
埃隆·马斯克
水一直从天上落下来。你知道,星舰基地位于热带雷暴地区。雨下得非常大,道路都会被淹。为什么我们会因为地面上那么一点点水而被罚款?但美国环保署说,除非我们支付这些罚款,否则他们不会处理未来的任何发射申请。所以我们基本上就是被扣住索要赎金了。而这只是冰山一角。我是说,我还有一大堆有点荒唐的故事。
埃隆·马斯克
你知道,我想其中一些还算有点好笑。这个,你知道,我们必须做这项,SpaceX必须做一项研究,看看星舰会不会、会不会撞上一条鲨鱼。
埃隆·马斯克
而我就说,这是一片很大的海洋,你知道,里面有很多鲨鱼。这并非不可能,但可能性非常低。
埃隆·马斯克
然后他们说,嗯,你必须,你知道,这是,我想是国家海洋渔业局提的,其中一个,你知道,叫作nymph。
埃隆·马斯克
而且,你知道,他们当时就说,嗯,你必须做研究,看看你会不会撞到鲨鱼。我们当时就想,什么?
埃隆·马斯克
然后我们说,好吧,行,我们来做分析。然后,嗯,你们能把鲨鱼数据给我们吗?他们说,不行,我们不能把冲击数据给你们。嗯,好吧,那么我们就有点左右为难了。我们要如何解决这个棘手的、这个冲击概率问题?他们说,嗯,我们可以把它交给我们的西部分部,但我们不信任他们。我就想,我这是在喜剧小品里吗?
埃隆·马斯克
他们担心冲击密度数据,比如那些为了鲨鱼鳍而猎杀鲨鱼的人会以某种方式拿到这个冲击密——这些冲击数据。所以最终,我想我们拿到了数据,可以进行分析并得出,比如,是的,鲨鱼会没事的。但在我们做完这些疯狂的鲨鱼数据之前,他们不允许我们继续发射。然后我们想,好吧,现在我们完成了。而他们说,那鲸鱼呢?
观众成员
我就像,
埃隆·马斯克
当你看一张太平洋的图片时,你看到太平洋表面积的百分之多少是鲸鱼?
Audience Member
Hi, everyone.
Audience Member
All right,
Elon Musk
Well, I'm guessing this is a pro elon crowd somehow.
Elon Musk
Thanks, guys.
Elon Musk
Well, thanks for coming tonight and it's an honor to be here and be able to speak to you. And I look forward to questions and comments. It's always interesting to have that Q and A and hear what people's concerns are and answer questions. And, you know, I think these, these, these things are great.
Audience Member
So.
Elon Musk
One of the things that has been concerning me for, you know, for a while, but particularly it's ramped up this year, is that there's, there's increasingly attacks on the Constitution, and specifically there are attacks on your right to freedom of speech. There are attacks on your right to bear arms. And you know, without the right to bear arms, the Second amendment is there to protect the First Amendment. So.
Elon Musk
And you have to say, you know, why these, why were these the first and Second Amendments? It's because the countries that people came from, if you spoke your mind, you could get imprisoned or you could get killed. That's why they said, we've got to make sure we have freedom of speech. And then, well, how do we ensure that we have freedom of speech? Well, right to bear arms. So, I mean, the founders of the Constitution must have been saying to themselves, this country is going to be lit.
Elon Musk
So. And I believe everyone here has actually signed the petition in support of the. Yeah,
Audience Member
so,
Elon Musk
So one of the things we're doing is we want to try to get over a million, maybe 2 million of voters in the battleground states to sign the petition in support of the first and Second Amendment. Because I think this sends a crucial message to our elected politicians to, you know, who care about the outcome in battleground states say, okay, wow, people in these states really actually care about these things. It's a big deal.
Elon Musk
So.
Elon Musk
And we really want to try to get as many people as possible to sign this petition. So I have a surprise for you, which is that we are going to be awarding a million dollars to randomly to people who have signed the. Signed the petition every day from now until the election.
Audience Member
So,
Elon Musk
you know, one of the challenges we're having is like, well, how do we get people to know about this petition? Because the legacy media is won't report on it. You know, not everyone's on X. So I figure, how do we get people to know about it? Well, this news, I think, is going to really fly. So.
Elon Musk
So every day between now and the election, we'll be awarding a million dollars, starting tonight.
Elon Musk
All right, so tonight's person is John Dreher.
Elon Musk
All right, thank you.
Elon Musk
So by the way, John had no, no idea.
Elon Musk
So anyway, you're welcome.
Audience Member
And.
Audience Member
Yeah,
Elon Musk
so the only thing we ask for the million dollars is that you be spokesperson person for the petition. And that's it. Really? That's the whole. That's it. And yeah, that's it. So wait, do you want to say anything? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Audience Member
Thanks, Elon, this is great.
Elon Musk
I'm really ecstatic.
Audience Member
I want to congratulate you on your rocket catch last week. Big curveball.
Elon Musk
But yeah, I've been following you for 10 years.
Audience Member
Got your biography 10 years ago and been watching ever since and big fan.
Elon Musk
So thank you. All right, well, cool.
Audience Member
So,
Elon Musk
Yeah, so I think this is kind of fun and you know, it's, it seems, seems like a good use of money basically. So.
Elon Musk
And you know, we really need to go all out to protect the Constitution. The Constitution is there for a reason. There was great wisdom in that, in that document and if anything, you know, we would, I just, it is what will save us from tyranny. And. Yeah, Well, let's see. So.
Elon Musk
I don't actually have any, like, as you can see, there's no teleprompter or anything. I'm just like, what should I say next? I don't know.
Elon Musk
But you know, it's worth reiterating why I'm supporting Donald Trump for president. And you know, there's, I think, important things that need to happen. I mean, I think we want, we essentially want the sensible basic things. We want safe cities, we want secure borders. We want obviously support for the Constitution.
Elon Musk
We want, I think, less government sort of overreach and you know, really, I think we want to restore freedom to the people, you know, so that your individual levities are prized and you get to do what you want to do and you're not sort of over regulated to death, which is kind of what's happening. You know, it's sort of shocking that I think there's something like 428 federal agencies, that's almost two agencies per year since the founding of the country and more being created.
Elon Musk
And so I call this like sort of strangulation by overregulation.
Elon Musk
And this is crazy. So I think with a Trump presidency, we have real opportunity to, to reduce the size of government, to have a sensible regulation and really free the American people to do what they want to do.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure like these are sort of right wing values. They seem like sensible values.
Elon Musk
I mean, like, in fact, I find it strange that These are even question marks, frankly. So it's just obvious things that should happen.
Elon Musk
So.
Elon Musk
Well, you know what? Let's go straight into Q and A, because I feel like a lot of things you've kind of heard before or people out there have heard before, and if I keep repeating myself, it's going to be kind of boring. So better to have questions, and then the questions can lead to interesting discussions.
Elon Musk
One note I should make with respect to questions or comments, the kind of questions or comments you want to have are things that you think the public would be interested in hearing. So it's sort of what would people out there be interested in hearing me answer or hearing you say? And that's the way to kind of think about the framing of the questions. Please go ahead.
Audience Member
Hey, Elon. B.J. worzen. Absolute honor to meet you tonight. First, I just want to say thank you for your leadership. We all really appreciate what you're doing. It's absolutely amazing that you're even out here doing this.
Elon Musk
Absolutely.
Elon Musk
Well, you know, really appreciate that. I mean, the reason that I'm doing this is because I really think we're at a fork in the road of destiny. And this, this election is an absolutely crucial one. I haven't been. I have not been politically active before, and I'm politically active now because every instinct that I have tells me that this, this is a fork in the road of destiny.
Audience Member
So. So you obviously are interested in Pennsylvania, and there's even a rumor that you might want to invest in Pennsylvania.
Elon Musk
That's the, that's, that's true, actually. I spoke with. Yeah.
Audience Member
So.
Audience Member
Well, well, my first question is, would you want to go halfsies with me on the Pittsburgh Pirates? We could really piss off Mark Cuban now. Now, the real question. You're a numbers guy. You're. You're looking at the numbers.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Audience Member
What are you seeing here in Pennsylvania and others that's giving you encouragement, and what are you concerned about?
Elon Musk
Well, I'm very much encouraged by the enthusiasm that I see, obviously, in the crowd tonight is incredible energy and enthusiasm. It's like, It's really heartening. It encourages me because sometimes I wonder, is there enthusiasm? Is there energy to make things happen? Because sometimes our biggest issue is often apathy, you know, is that if the people that, if the people that could vote just actually voted, then Trump would win for sure.
Audience Member
Yeah.
Elon Musk
So a lot of it is, I think, convincing people who sometimes feel like the vote doesn't matter or it's all rigged or whatever, that actually the vote does matter. And if there's any election in their lifetime that they're going to vote, they should vote in this one, this one. It really is a big deal. So, you know, I really want to encourage people out there to, you know, this is a one time ask, just go out there and talk to your friends and family and acquaintances and people you meet in the street and convince them to vote.
Elon Musk
Make obviously got to get registered, make sure they're registered and then. And make sure they vote.
Elon Musk
This, this one, this is a big one. This, this, this is a really big one. And I've never said that before, so I, I. This, this one, we, you got to go all out, you know. All out. Yeah.
Audience Member
Elon, I'm Senator Greg Rothman.
Elon Musk
Welcome to central Pennsylvania.
Audience Member
We're so glad you're here.
Elon Musk
Thank you.
Elon Musk
So you've been in Pennsylvania at least the last week or so. Anything surprises you about this state, our commonwealth?
Audience Member
What have you noticed?
Elon Musk
What have you seen that's been a surprise to you? Well, you know, I did live here for three years, so I'm not like a total stranger. I went to college in Pennsylvania. So, you know, I'm not like some, you know, guy, just like, what is the state? What's it like? I lived here for three years.
Elon Musk
So no, it's a great state. I really enjoyed my time here. And it's.
Elon Musk
And I think actually Pennsylvania is really, it's the linchpin in this election, you know, and so it's how Pennsylvania goes, I think, is how the election goes. And yeah,
Audience Member
yeah.
Audience Member
Elon, my name is Chandi. I'm one of the pastors here. Thank you for hosting your town hall here at Life center in Pennsylvania.
Audience Member
My question for you is, would you hold an official position in the Trump administration? If so, what would it be? Would you create a new role for you to help save our nation?
Elon Musk
Well, yes. So I've had many conversations with President Trump, who is very much aligned in thinking that we need significant government reform. We need to get the government out of people's lives, really, and have America be the land of liberty, which is, that's, that is what has made America great, is the land of liberty and opportunity, you know, so you've maximized people's personal freedom.
Elon Musk
And we make sure that getting ahead is a function of hard work and talent and, you know, an honest day's work, that's really what should get people ahead. And that's the only thing, you know, so.
Audience Member
Hello.
Elon Musk
Elon Jerrell with Genuine Assets. Welcome to Pennsylvania again. My, my question for you, Elon, is The biggest obstacle that you've had in life and how you turn that obstacle into an opportunity.
Elon Musk
Well, I guess I've had a lot of obstacles.
Elon Musk
I certainly didn't expect to, you know, get the things done that I have gotten done. Quite frankly, I expected failure.
Elon Musk
So it was really just that I wanted to be. To do something that was as useful as possible. I wanted to be as useful as possible, and that was it really. So. So I didn't even really actually originally intend to even start a company. I tried to get a job at Netscape after graduating from Penn and Marc Andreessen's a friend of mine, but they didn't respond to my resume that I mailed in.
Elon Musk
So I was like, okay, well, I guess I'll try writing software. I've been writing software since I was a kid. So I'll write some illustration Internet software and see if I can do some useful applications on the Internet. And I ended up writing the first maps and directions and yellow pages and white pages on the Internet back in 95.
Elon Musk
And it was just really because nobody would give me a job on the Internet. So that was it. If they'd given me a job, I guess I would have just worked at Netscape or something.
Elon Musk
But my best advice really is just like, you know, try to do an honest day's work and try to be as useful as possible to your fellow human beings. Try to give more than you take. And I just have a lot of respect for people who do an honest day's work. You know, that's what really matters.
Elon Musk
How's it going, Elon?
Audience Member
Good to see you. My name is Josh.
Audience Member
I'm worried about kids in a big way.
Audience Member
I grew up in Wyoming county up north, small town area, real conservative. Got a education at Penn State Economics. And it really turned me away from my father and our small business that we had. I was basically raised to take it over, and I did once I graduated, but it kind of imploded afterwards about a year. And I. I moved to California and I didn't know what really happened. We got in a big argument and I just. I had to go, you know, it was freeze.
Audience Member
So flight happened next.
Audience Member
Explored homosexuality, considered transitioning to a female.
Elon Musk
And, well, this is quite the journey.
Audience Member
Yeah. And I think that there's.
Audience Member
There's a big problem with education that is having people.
Audience Member
I guess my question is, what are other things we can do besides the impact that we can have on the Department of Education to help confused children that are trying to know who they are and how they can Fit into their community and be productive. Sure.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Elon Musk
Well, I think there's, what I think, I mean what I see is that there's, there's like a tremendous amount of propaganda being pushed on kids in schools and it's, I think it's just messing with kids heads, you know, I mean anyone that goes through puberty, it's going to be an identity crisis. You know, going through puberty, like it's normal kind of to have an identity crisis really. And I think we should, you know, tell kids like, yeah, you know, if you're confused, that's okay.
Elon Musk
It's like it's coming of age, you know, we shouldn't like steer them in a particular direction or convince them of something that's, that they're not.
Elon Musk
It's just, it's okay to go through an identity crisis. Everyone does. And, but I think what I see in schools is that they tend to send kids down paths that they, you know, they wouldn't actually go down because they're being pushed down that way by the teachers, you know, and by the propaganda that's pushed in the schools. So.
Elon Musk
I think it's, we need to tell kids it's okay to live with uncertainty, that it's, that it's normal to have uncertainty and it'll settle down over time and you know, and don't make any permanent decisions, you know, like decisions that can't be reversed can't be reversed. So, you know, I think we definitely should not have any sort of sterilization of kids, you know, below 18. That's no good.
Elon Musk
There's an age of consent for a reason. And you know, we don't let kids get tattoos until they're 18 and we don't, you know, alcohol is technically illegal until 21, although that's, you know, observed in the breach. So. But we just want people to not make decisions when they're young that make them unhappy as an adult. That's really what it comes down to. And I think you want to say we want to optimize for people's long term happiness.
Elon Musk
But that means like making sure, like I said, that there are no irreversible changes during a kid. When a kid has an identity crisis, which every kid has. And that's totally cool. And so my opinion is we should just tell kids if, when they're going through puberty and an identity crisis that's totally normal and don't get too stressed about it and things will settle out how they settle out and you know, that's the right thing to do.
Audience Member
Hello. Thank you very much, Mr. Elon Musk. My name is Lenka White. I'm a legal immigrant from the Czech Republic. We are all very grateful for X. I think it's the only platform where we can find the truth, and not only here in the United States, but in places like Europe. My question is, what is your vision on the future of the media under Harris vs under Trump? How it would look like, and can the legacy media still earn the trust back?
Audience Member
And what would happen to X? Of course. Thank you so much.
Elon Musk
Sure. Well, it's a great question because there's a. I mean, there's. I think what we'll see is a lot of censorship under sort of the Kamala regime. You know, Kamala is really just. She's just a puppet, frankly. I mean, you know, if the teleprompter breaks, doesn't know what to say.
Elon Musk
So it's, you know, I just call it the machine, you know, the kind of big government machine, essentially. And you sort of have a face on the big government machine. And when the Biden puppet, you know, was not working out, they sort of got a new puppet. But it's still the same machine, obviously, and it's extremely undemocratic, what was done. You know, It's bizarre and hypocritical to claim that Trump is somehow a danger to democracy when what happened with Biden being removed as the candidate was incredibly undemocratic.
Audience Member
Yeah.
Elon Musk
So it doesn't make sense, but there's clearly a strong push for censorship under the guise of disinformation.
Elon Musk
And.
Audience Member
But.
Elon Musk
But really, disinformation is a propaganda word. It's. It's not a.
Audience Member
It's.
Elon Musk
Well, who's. Who's going to decide what's disinformation? The government. That's crazy. You know, so that. That's, you know. Yeah. So I think we'll see.
Elon Musk
This is like a very. This is why we have this petition in support of freedom of speech and right to bear arms is that it's under siege, it's being attacked. But really, we should have the free marketplace of ideas. People can propose an idea, people can discuss an idea, and they can make a statement. People can rebut that. You can have the sort of. The people can decide. And, you know, I think it's. It's far better for information to sort of bubble up from the voice of the people than to be decided by a handful of editors and chiefs of newspapers.
Elon Musk
You know, that's. Yeah.
Elon Musk
I mean, the sort of. The biggest point of manipulation that occurs in the media is not when the media says something that's false or misleading, but because they do that.
Elon Musk
But their choice of narrative, what are they going to talk about is that. That's.
Elon Musk
By choosing to focus on one thing and not focus on another thing, there are sort of steering what information the public receives. Whereas I think the right thing is that the narratives that are important should be the narratives that the people as a whole think are important, not what a few media oligarchs think is important.
Audience Member
Yeah,
Elon Musk
but they sure like controlling information.
Elon Musk
So I think we're. If the Kamala machine wins, then we'll see. I think severe censorship is what's going to happen, and that's why I think this is the last election.
Audience Member
Yeah.
Audience Member
Thanks to you, Kamala is not going to win. I'm Chet.
Audience Member
My name is Chet Beiler. I'm from right here in central Pennsylvania. And I don't think that was an overstatement. Thanks to you, Kamala will not win. I have two questions regarding the election itself and what you believe can be done to create not only a victory, but a strong victory.
Elon Musk
Yes.
Audience Member
I'm now convinced that, again, thanks to you, we're going to sweep the seven states that we must win. But I also hope we could pick up New Hampshire, New Jersey, and Virginia. So I wonder what your thoughts are as to how decisive the victory could be. And then number two, as was referenced earlier, we and all of America is very enthused about you working with Donald Trump to make our government appropriately smaller and more effective.
Audience Member
So.
Audience Member
Because that message is so compelling, I wonder if your super PAC could be a little more clear about that point as it relates to you affecting that upgrade to this grid. Great country.
Elon Musk
Certainly, I'm happy to clarify that. You know, I. You know, I think a lot of the things I say, I feel like I'm just stating the obvious. But. But sometimes the obvious isn't what happens or is that if. If America is not strong, if the west is not strong, then nothing else matters. Like, you know, the companies that I run, they don't matter. Like, basically, America is the central pole holding up the tent that is Western civilization.
Elon Musk
And if that poll fails, nothing else matters.
Elon Musk
Nothing else matters.
Elon Musk
So, you know, and I've tried to encourage a lot of people in, you know, business and technology to say, like, hey, you just got to think long term. You don't. You don't even need to be altruistic. You just got to think long term and say, if America fails, what good is your business? It doesn't matter. So America must be strong and, and the, the central pole that holds up the 10 of Western civilization must be firm as an o.
Audience Member
Hi, Elon. My name is Josel, and thank you for saving free speech.
Audience Member
My question is, what would you expect to see when you head the Government Efficiency Department? What are your strategies and priorities to curb government spending?
Elon Musk
Well, I've had some exposure to government spending because, you know, SpaceX has, does have a lot of government contracts. There's a lot of work for NASA and for DoD intel and whatnot. And so I've actually seen just the level of waste that that happens. And if you talk to people in the government, they actually agree, yes, this is very wasteful and inefficient. And I'm like, well, why don't we do something about it?
Elon Musk
But really, in order to do something about it, it has to be a mandate from the top. And if the president is, you know, if we have a great president like Donald Trump who's willing to make major changes and it's difficult because the system will fight you. You know, the system's not going to be like, oh, yeah, no, totally, we're totally happy being smaller. That will not be like the sort of antibody reaction of the system will be quite severe.
Elon Musk
You know, I don't think it's going to be. They're not going to, you know, like it, basically.
Elon Musk
So. But you have to have that mandate from the president. And we need a real president, not a puppet, you know.
Elon Musk
You know, the thing that's scares the system, that scares the machine, is that Donald Trump is not a puppet. He's a real person, you know, and he's not beholden to anyone. And that's why you see sort of, you know, they're trying to kill him, you know, and, you know, I mentioned as a joke, I meant it as a joke that no one's even bothering to try to kill Kamala, you know, because there's no point. There's no point is what?
Elon Musk
I just get another puppet, you know, so I'm not suggesting someone should try to kill her. It's pointless. But I'm just saying, I'm just making an observation. Nobody's bothered. Why is that? Because it doesn't matter.
Audience Member
Yeah.
Elon Musk
Assassinating a puppet is pointless.
Elon Musk
So, yeah.
Audience Member
Hi, Elon, I'm Chad Wick from Westchester, Pennsylvania, and I think more people are voting for Trump than ever before. It's historically been Democratic. I wear my Trump hat and walking around, people come up to me all the time, all races, all sexes, and they're like, cheers, let's go. I was just like, let's go.
Elon Musk
Yeah, maga. Exactly. All right, so maga, loud and proud. Let's go.
Audience Member
Yeah.
Elon Musk
I encourage people to put Trump Vance signs on their lawn and wear MAGA merch because a lot of it is like, people, you know, a lot of people, like, they will, like, they actually would like to support Donald Trump, but they aren't sure if anyone around them does too. And a lot of people, so you got to sort of, you know, if you sort of kind of plant the flag, then people like, yeah, you know, I see other people are doing it, then maybe I will too.
Elon Musk
So, yeah, thanks for doing what you're doing.
Audience Member
100%. Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you for standing up for Trump and putting your voice out there, because it's really important, seeing your face. The richest person in the world, that's you. So thank you for that.
Elon Musk
I mean, I decided I built some companies that are doing a lot of useful things and as a result, the stock's worth a lot. So that's what, that's kind of what happens. It's like, you know, but in terms of personal expenditures, I do not live a particularly, you know, I don't have like a yacht or any or islands or anything like that. I just work, you know.
Audience Member
Good evening, Elon. My name is Jared. It's a pleasure and honor to meet you here in Pennsylvania.
Elon Musk
And it's honor and pleasure to meet all you guys. Yeah, you guys rock.
Elon Musk
I mean, this is, this is firing. I mean, seeing the level of enthusiasm is just. I mean, this is firing me up big time. This is awesome. Yeah, me too.
Audience Member
Usa.
Elon Musk
Usa. Absolutely.
Audience Member
I have a two part question. Part A. I admire your authenticity as well as Donald Trump and truly wanting to make America great again. Giving up whatever you need to just do the right thing, even if it's unpopular.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Audience Member
With all the government spending that you keep talking about on X, do you believe that in combination with the Department of Government efficiency, with Donald Trump's policies, do you think we can reduce the US national debt that's currently at under $36 trillion? And part B is that after you
Elon Musk
do it, we have to, like, if we, if we don't do something about the debt, it's going to like, this is like, for some reason, you know, just the legacy of mainstream media just ignores the fact that America is going bankrupt like crazy. It's like at a rate that is unprecedented. And the reality is that all government spending is, is, is taxation. So even so People, I think, well, this government spending and taxation are somehow separate, but they're not.
Elon Musk
All government spending is taxation because the deficit is what results in inflation. And so inflation is a de facto tax because it causes oil prices to rise and makes, you know, who will try to just live their lives have a lot of difficulty. But inflation throughout history has been used as a pernicious tax tax because it's one degree removed. So people don't feel it directly, they sort of. And then the politicians will try to blame it on something else.
Elon Musk
But it's all about government spending. Government spending is what drives inflation. So the key is we've got to reduce the government spending and if we don't, we're going to go bankrupt as a country. End of story. Just like a person, if a person spends beyond their means, they go bankrupt and we're spending beyond our means and we're spending on, like, silly stuff that doesn't actually benefit the public.
Audience Member
Correct.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Audience Member
Part two to that. I believe you're going to do that with Donald Trump. I'm just telling you that it's not if, it's when, because I am confident you and Donald Trump are going to truly make America great again.
Elon Musk
Well, thank you. But I do want to caution against complacency is the only thing. So it's like we just need to be super hardcore about getting every possible
Audience Member
vote confidence you have. Not complacency.
Elon Musk
Yes, exactly. You want to be confident but not complacent. And so that's why it's like we've got to just be total evangelists about the voting. And really, every vote counts. And just make sure everyone you know is registered. The deadline for registration in Pennsylvania is Monday. Yeah, Midnight Monday. Like, you can register online. It's super easy. But, like, hound everyone you know to get registered because after, after midnight on Monday, you can't.
Elon Musk
It's, it's no good.
Audience Member
And this is a silly question, but when you cut the government spending and all you have a stack of all these deregulations, can you live stream on X and use not a flamethrower and burn that.
Elon Musk
Yeah.
Audience Member
To the ground? Yeah.
Elon Musk
Great idea.
Audience Member
Yeah.
Elon Musk
I think a bonfire of nonsense regulations would be epic. Yeah.
Elon Musk
And, you know, sometimes people, sometimes people are concerned, like, well, what if there's some regulation that's actually really important and we get rid of that and say, well, you know what? We'll put it right back. Problem solved.
Elon Musk
So.
Audience Member
All right, Mr. Musk, thank you for speaking directly with the voters of the United States.
Elon Musk
Pretty great view yeah, absolutely.
Audience Member
Removing yourself from the equation, what does it say about the Biden, Harris administration and the would be Harris administration that she had that they haven't worked with such great American Companies such as SpaceX twice put Tesla and then even speak out against X.
Elon Musk
Yeah, I mean it's, it's, it's pretty weird, you know.
Elon Musk
Yeah, because it's, it's, it was kind of, kind of a surprise because it's like, you know, Biden, you know, for example, had that like electric vehicle summit at the White House six months after getting upgraded and specific, specifically excluded Tesla. Even though Tesla makes more electric cars. Yeah, it was not cool.
Elon Musk
And then credited GM with driving the electric vehicle revolution. And that was the second event. And then in that quarter GM shipped 26 electric cars and Tesla shipped 300,000. So I'm like, And you know, Tesla's at this point about 140,000 people. It's, it's really, it's like there's a lot of blood, sweat and tears from 140,000 people working hard to make great, great electric cars. And you know, to be sort of cold shouldered like that for no reason, it's like what's the deal?
Elon Musk
You know, that's wrong. So yeah, and then there was like that crazy thing where SpaceX competed for the rural Broadband initiative, which, and by the way, I'm actually generally against subsidies and incentives, you know, like we should let taxpayers keep their money is my opinion. But they had this like $42 billion thing and we competed and we won and we would have actually been able to supply a lot of Starlink terminals to, to the states that were affected by the hurricanes and they revoked the award.
Elon Musk
It's messed up. Like why?
Elon Musk
And then to date that 42 billion program, total number of citizens that have received broadband from that $42 billion allocation is zero.
Elon Musk
Now that's if you want to. $42 billion for zero, I would call that waste. Yeah, that's waste. That is not a good use of money.
Elon Musk
You know, so there was also a big government initiative, I think $7 billion, something like that for nationwide network of electric superchargers and I think they made like 10.
Elon Musk
I'm like, this is the most egregious waste of money. And there's so many situations like that. So you know, it just goes like bureaucrats and consultants and nothing gets done and it's wasting your money, which is crazy. So what I'm saying is like this is the opportunity to reduce government waste is actually I think easy because there's so much of it, you know, it's
Audience Member
not like
Elon Musk
they just don't care about your money, which is messed up. And so I think the Department of Government Efficiency is going to face a target rich environment for reducing costs.
Audience Member
Hi Elon. I've been waiting years for you to join the MAGA movement, so we're so glad you did.
Elon Musk
Yeah,
Audience Member
I guess my question is you keep repeating that most of these things we believe in are common sense. And I really feel like they are. Yeah. Do you have any WOKE friends and how do you deal with them?
Elon Musk
Well, I mean, I have been red pilling my friends like crazy lately,
Audience Member
so
Elon Musk
fewer and fewer WOKE friends. At least they're still friends, but they're not woke. So, you know, they, I think where, you know, where the sort of,
Audience Member
the
Elon Musk
sort of good interpretation of the WOKE movement is that we want to have empathy for our fellow human beings and of course we want to have empathy for our fellow humans. I strongly believe we should care about humanity and we should care about the future, but we need to have empathy that is deep, not shallow. You know, shallow empathy is caring about criminals, but deep empathy is caring about the victims of the criminals.
Elon Musk
You know, and so, you know, why do we have, you know, violent, repeat violent offenders released on the streets, often with no bail? It's crazy. And they prey upon people, innocent people, you know, and then our streets are not safe. And how can America be the greatest country in the world and we don't even have safe streets? You know, this is crazy.
Elon Musk
You know, I was talking to my mom and she was saying like, just this year, like three of her friends have been assaulted in New York, you know, and it's. And I said, well, it. Was anyone arrested? No, they didn't even try. This is, we can't have this. You know, people deserve to, you know, perhaps safe cities and secure borders and the basic stuff like that, you know.
Elon Musk
Yeah, so I think, I think it's, I do feel that there's, there's a shifting of, you know, shifting of perception and I think we, I think, I hope I'm not being too optimistic, but I'm a naturally optimistic person, obviously. But I, I do feel as though that there's a shift in the national mindset and a shift to more just common sense and not believing everything that the media tells you. And I think actually in the US people are starting to realize that the legacy media is just a propaganda machine.
Elon Musk
In Europe, they still believe the news.
Elon Musk
So we got to work on Europe. They still think the news is real.
Elon Musk
But you know, here, you know, thanks to X and just people being, I think maybe a bit more aware and having an actual free speech constitutional amendment has helped Americans, you know, understand what is actually real.
Elon Musk
And I mean, I do find it remarkable like the just how sort of coordinated the legacy media is in their talking points. It's absurd. And kudos to those who put together the compilations of, you know, where all of the talking heads will say the same thing word for word.
Elon Musk
Yeah. And they'll say the exact same thing, you know, but I mean, I think the propaganda is not even good, frankly. It's not even entertaining. And you know, so, you know, a week before the Biden Trump debate, you know, every media organization was saying that Biden show off his attack, you know, the exact same words Shaw's attack shop over and over again. Then it became obvious to the public that he was indeed not a sharper's attack.
Elon Musk
But then immediately the legacy media pivoted to knifing Biden and anointing a successor. So we see this over and over again and.
Elon Musk
Yeah, so anyway, but that's why we need to have the voice of the people.
Elon Musk
And that's why I felt it was necessary to acquire Twitter. And you know, The whole point of acquiring Twitter was to restore the voice of the people.
Elon Musk
And it's important to note that while the far left activists that used to control Twitter obviously did extreme censorship of voices on the right, there has been no censorship of voices on the left. They suspended a sitting president.
Elon Musk
Twitter suspended a sitting president, which is insane.
Elon Musk
But there's been no suspension or censorship or shadow banning or anything of anyone on the left. So, you know, it's a level playing field.
Elon Musk
But I think that the reason that the sort of far left activists want unanimity in all social media platforms and in all legacy media is, is that their ideas do not stand the light of day. That is the reason they actually don't stand up. And so unless everyone is parroting the same thing, their ideas will fail.
Audience Member
Hello, Mr. Musk. My name is Zion Thomas and you know, I was going to ask for a million dollars, but my parents told me to keep it professional, so.
Elon Musk
Well, it's actually still possible that you may win that.
Audience Member
But yeah, so you taking over Twitter was awesome. I want to know what other radical ideas you have to save our nation while working with Trump.
Elon Musk
Yeah, well, I try to be as literal as possible. So, you know, the value stated on the at America, you know, the America PAC website and X account try to be just as straightforward and literal as possible. You know, so that's why it's sort of safe cities, secure borders, sensible spending to protect the Constitution, especially the right to free speech. And these are old, like I said, things that seem very obvious and, frankly, normal, but they're not being done, and they're in severe danger if the Kamala machine wins.
Audience Member
Hi, I'm Nikki, and I've been working with voter registration, and a lot of people are concerned about the escalation in the US military in Israel because there's over 100 troops there on land now. What do you think of this idea? A boring company offering to build an island off the coast of Israel and call it Palestine. They can finally have their nation state like Cyprus. It's been done in China, Dubai and the Philippines, and we can finally end these endless wars.
Audience Member
Could there be enough rubble in Gaza to do it? Thank you.
Elon Musk
Well, that. I mean, Gaza is a thorny problem indeed. You know, the Middle east has been an area of contention, well, for thousands of years.
Elon Musk
I would say that I do not know the solution to that difficult situation there.
Elon Musk
So I'm not sure there is. I'm not sure there is a good solution. There may be, but. But I think we need to make sure that America is solid. So I'm like, let's just make sure America is strong.
Audience Member
And,
Elon Musk
you know, there's. I mean, I do think we interfere too much in what other countries do, and.
Elon Musk
And a lot of our attempts at regime change. In fact, the success of the State Department in achieving regime change is terrible. I mean, you know, so there's all this effort spent, all this money spent trying to affect regime change in various countries, but failed in Cuba, failed in Iran, failed in North Korea, failed in Russia. What. Where were the successes? But a lot of people died and a lot of money was spent, but what good has come of it?
Elon Musk
So I think we should interfere with other countries a lot less.
Audience Member
Hi, Elon. My name is Luke. I'm a local liberty lover who lives just across the river. Actually. I find the idea that basically everything that we care about is dependent on a single federal election to, for lack of a better word, be unacceptable. So what I and some colleagues of mine have talked about is decentralization and localism, specifically nullification at the state and local level of the federal leviathan. Yeah, at the state level.
Audience Member
The 10th Amendment center has done great work. The basis of nullification is the 10th Amendment. The idea that no power is.
Elon Musk
I mean, I agree. The federal government should get off people's backs.
Audience Member
Yeah, absolutely. And do you believe that nullification is a viable path forward to getting that done.
Elon Musk
Well, I can't speak to whether that is legally, would legally stand up or not. I mean, but I think if there's an executive branch and we also need to try to win the Senate and the House, but if there's a consensus that the federal government should do less and restore power to the states and to the communities, which I think should be the case, then I think we can make that happen.
Audience Member
Yeah.
Audience Member
Hi, Elon, My name is Edward. And one of the really great things about going to these rallies are the people that you meet. Tuesday at the J.D. vance rally. I spoke to some young students and they wanted to be healthcare professionals. And the hardest thing for them to deal with was a financial obligations of doing it, trying to get an apartment and everything else. And I mean, I went to Germany and college is free over there.
Audience Member
So there's no one in the world that can tell me that America can't do it better. Can you help those Rileys of the world out, please?
Elon Musk
Well, I think there are a lot of issues with college education. It's gotten very expensive because the administrative portion of colleges and universities has grown dramatically compared to the educational portion. So you say like how much is actually spent on teaching people?
Audience Member
Very little,
Elon Musk
You know, so I think you've got these sort of administrative groups that are far outnumber the actual number of professors. And like there isn't actually a need for college to be so expensive. It should be far less expensive. But the sort of bureaucratic creep and the administrative burden have grown dramatically over time and that is what has caused college to be so expensive. It doesn't make any sense. So.
Audience Member
Yeah,
Elon Musk
but there is. I mean, if we do sort of make college free, we have to be careful about that because it's then it's open season for wasteful spending at universities and like then, however bad it is now is going to be even worse in the future.
Elon Musk
I think we need new universities to compete with the existing ones because what actually matters is how good is your education, not how much was spent on administrative bs. You know, I also think that like the value of a college education is somewhat overweighted, you know, and I think it's too many people actually spend four years, accumulate a ton of debt, and then often don't have useful skills that they can apply afterwards.
Elon Musk
And I think I have a lot of respect for people who work with their hands. And we need electricians and plumbers and carpenters and, you know,
Audience Member
that's a lot
Elon Musk
more important than having incremental political science majors, I think.
Elon Musk
You know, so I think we should not have this idea that to be successful you need to have a four year college. That is simply not true.
Audience Member
Hello, my name is Beam. It's a pleasure to meet you. My question is, as we near the election, I know you're covering a lot of ground going to battleground states. How important do you think ad buys will be this election? Because in 2020, Mike Bloomberg, we know, spent a vast amount of money trying to get Biden into the White House. So are you looking into that? And yeah, that's my question.
Elon Musk
Well, actually, I'm not sure. I mean, the amount of money spent on advertising in the battleground states is truly staggering. And in fact, the Democrats are outspending Republicans dramatically, depending on how you count it. I think it's like two or three times more money is being spent by Democrats and Republicans. And in addition, they have legacy media on this side and they have a whole bunch of Hollywood celebrities on the side.
Elon Musk
So it's remarkable that election is in contention at all given that they have really, you know, all that on their, on, on their side.
Elon Musk
So, but, but I guess you got to, you got to reach people with a message somehow.
Elon Musk
So I think probably, you know, we do need to do more advertising just so that people hear the message. But, but in my opinion, the thing that's actually most important is getting friends, family, acquaintances, anyone you run into to register to vote and then to actually vote.
Audience Member
So
Elon Musk
it's, and this election could be decided by, you know, 1,000 people, 100 people. It could be a very tiny margin. So every incremental person makes a difference. And I've seen some pretty wild numbers where there's, I think even right now there's a lot of people that have requested, a lot of Republicans that have requested absentee ballots, but they have not mailed them in. I'm like, guys, mail it in. Come on, just mail in your ballot.
Elon Musk
You can do it. You have it in your house. Mail it in. Now would be a good time. And if you're worried about the mail, you can bring it in person. So, yeah, I think it's very important to encourage people to vote. Like I said, I'm really emphasizing this registration point because we've only got a couple days left for registration. So that's why the top priority is get people registered before Monday night and then make sure they vote.
Elon Musk
And I would recommend voting early and then you can check to see if your vote's been received. You know, that's, I think There should be a lot more Republicans voting early.
Audience Member
Hi, Mr. Musk, it's a pleasure to be able to speak to you. Thank you so much for pushing the world forward in every industry and I'm sure you'll be doing the same now in politics. So my question is, given the recent hacking of Donald Trump, how important do you think it is for the tech industry and government to back platforms that prioritize privacy and secure communications, such as signal? And do you see an opportunity for your companies to partner with this platform or to better protect user data or even safeguard government communications?
Elon Musk
Yeah, I mean there's always this debate between, you know, privacy and security, but I think the bias should be towards privacy. You know, I think we should not trust the government really and we just shouldn't.
Audience Member
So.
Elon Musk
And I'd say even if, even if I'm in the government, don't trust the government. Like that's, it's just, you know, we, we've got to protect the privacy of citizens and you know, and make sure that people really have their liberty and they're not being spied on or, you know, manipulated. So, you know. Yeah, so I think we need to make sure that there are not like backdoors and weird things where the government can, you know, spy on and potential, you know, take action against people.
Audience Member
Yeah.
Audience Member
Hey Elon, my name's Ron Blauk, I'm from Harrisburg. Before I ask my election question, I just have to tell you that I accidentally caught the launch and catch of both sections of Starship on live and it was breathtaking, which I know everyone in here knows. But I want you to be acknowledged for the level of inspiration that you're creating worldwide. I was cheering in my office like watching this thing go down and so thank you for that.
Elon Musk
You're most welcome. I mean, I think it's, it was, yeah, I mean it certainly inspired me and that's, it's a, that's a testament to the incredible work by the SpaceX team. Very talented, super hard working team and you know, the making rockets fully and rapidly reusable is really what's going to open up space for humanity and enable us to have a base on the moon and build a city on Mars and be a space bearing civilization.
Elon Musk
So a lot of people don't realize like the difference between like an expandable rocket and a reusable rocket is like 10,000% at least you can think of it. Just the difference between, you know, what does it cost to know, fill up a car versus buy a car? It's the same difference for rockets, you know, do you. If you have to, if a new rocket is needed, every flight, that's super expensive and difficult, but if you only have to refill the rocket, it's dramatically cheaper, just like it is for a car or an airplane.
Elon Musk
Understood.
Audience Member
Pulling that off and doing the catch and the landing in the ocean was just so stellar. Yeah. All right, so my, my question is, on election night 2020, I sat down to watch the returns and I watched them steal the election. All right. I saw it live, watched it all night.
Elon Musk
Okay.
Audience Member
If you were watching it, then you knew at 9 o' clock when Fox declared Arizona that it was going down. That was the moment. Okay. But even worse than that was over the next months, watching the courts and the shenanigans in the courts and the lack of good representation that Trump had and just nothing happening because there was obviously a problem, nothing seemed to be happening in the courts at all. And between that day and now, it doesn't look like anything has changed.
Audience Member
And so we're about to. I think the votes matter, but the count is what matters. And if the courts are corrupted, not going to get anywhere. And so do you have, are you participating in that? It seems as though you're aware of that. How can you help solve that issue so that we don't have that problem again?
Elon Musk
Yeah, well, I mean, the, if the margin of victory is high enough, then I think any, it can exceed any sort of cheating that may take place. So we've got to aim for just a massive margin. That's the key. It's really aim for a margin that it is impossible to have any shenanigans. But on the X platform, I certainly would invite people to. If there's any voting issues, if people think there's fraud, then they then post the images, post the videos, post the evidence, and let's shine a bright light on.
Elon Musk
And the brighter the light, the harder it will be to cheat.
Audience Member
Hi, Elon, It's a pleasure to make your acquaintance. Thank you for the work you're doing for humanity. There are a lot of changes happening in our world right now, a lot of changes happening in our own country. And these changes are being perceived as chaos. But I always say that if it wasn't for chaos, we wouldn't be able to experience peace. If it wasn't for chaos, we wouldn't be able to experience growth and evolution.
Audience Member
And with AI being the new kid on the block and advancing at an incredible pace, I guess my question is, how do you foresee the election of President Donald Trump influencing technological advancements and societal transformation.
Elon Musk
Well, I think the reducing the sort of strangulation by overregulation is a super big deal.
Elon Musk
The rocket that we were just talking about, it was sitting on the launch pad for two months waiting for paperwork to be processed. And it's just insane that the SpaceX team can build a giant rocket faster than the government can move paperwork from one desk to another. Like, that's just crazy.
Elon Musk
And the problem is that's getting worse and worse every year. So if that train continues, it's just going to be illegal. You know, we just won't be able to get anything done. So the, this, that's why I call it like this, this extreme over regulation, where there's just new agencies being created every year. And the difficulty of getting anything done is like the square of the number of agencies involved. So if there's one agency, it's like one, but if there's like three agencies, it's like nine times harder because they all have to meet with each other.
Elon Musk
And, you know, we get crazy things. Like SpaceX got fined $140,000 for dumping potable drinking water on the ground
Audience Member
at
Elon Musk
Starbase, where we launched the rocket, because we cool the launch pad with water. And in an excess of caution, we said, you know, we're going to bring in drinking water just to be sure and we're going to cool the pad with that. We didn't know there was like a permit needed for that.
Elon Musk
Water falls from the sky all the time. You know, Starbase is in a tropical thunderstorm area. It rains so much that the roads get flooded. Why are we getting fined for a tiny amount of water on the ground? But EPA said they're not going to process any future applications for launch unless we pay those fines. So we just got, you know, held for ransom, basically. And that's tip of the iceberg. I mean, I got a bunch of sort of nutty stories.
Elon Musk
You know, some of them are, I guess, like, kind of funny. This, you know, we had to do this, SpaceX had to do the study to see if starship would, would hit a shark.
Elon Musk
And I'm like, it's a big ocean, you know, there's a lot of sharks. It's not impossible, but it's very unlikely.
Elon Musk
And said, well, you have to, you know, this is, I think from National Marine Fisheries, one of the, you know, nymph it's called.
Elon Musk
And you know, they were like, well, you have to do the study on whether you're going to hit a shark. We're like, what?
Elon Musk
And then we said, okay, fine, we'll do the analysis. And then, well, can you give us the shark data? They're like, no, we can't give you the shock data. Well, okay, well then we're a bit of a quandary. How do we solve this difficult, this shock probability issue? And they said, well, we could give it to our western division, but we don't trust them. And I'm like, am I in a comedy sketch here?
Elon Musk
They're worried about the shock density data, like the people who hunt sharks for shark fins somehow getting their hands on this shock dense, the shock data. And so eventually I think we got the data and we could run the analysis to say like, yeah, the sharks are going to be fine. But they wouldn't let us proceed with launch until we did this crazy shark data. And then we thought, okay, now we're done. And they said, but what about whales?
Audience Member
I'm like,
Elon Musk
when you look at a picture of the Pacific, what percentage of the surface area of the Pacific do you see as whale?