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内容摘要
惊喜现身CPAC:阿根廷的哈维尔·米莱把一把链锯交给马斯克后,马斯克坐下来与Newsmax的罗布·施密特就DOGE、他转向政治以及他对安全问题的担忧展开你来我往的对谈。
Surprise CPAC appearance: after Argentina's Javier Milei hands him a chainsaw, Musk sits for a back-and-forth with Newsmax's Rob Schmitt on DOGE, his turn to politics and his security fears.
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41 个段落
第 1 段
[音乐] [掌声] 天哪,真是一大群人,而且他们不是为我来的。你们好吗?今年氛围不错,对吧?就在我们有史以来最棒的1个月之后。很高兴见到大家,谢谢你们前来,很高兴见到你们。我不打算再耽搁时间了,让我们请出埃隆·马斯克。再留一下。嘿,各位。[掌声] 我们还有,我们还有1个,我们还有1个惊喜,以防这还不够。我会让埃隆来做。还有谁在这里?呃,这个,总统,呃,米莱总统有份礼物要送给我。来自阿根廷的哈维尔·米莱。你们知道他是谁,[掌声] 对吧?我们何不请他出来?[掌声] [音乐] [掌声] 这是砍向官僚机构的链锯。链锯。[掌声] 太完美了。好的,我喜欢。总统先生,非常感谢。就这些。
第 2 段
好的,谢谢,谢谢您,先生,很高兴认识您。我喜欢。我们喜欢,我们喜欢。好吧,他们叫我把这个放在,对吧?我们应该放上去吗?他们想把它放在这里。好的,太棒了,一个小舞台道具。爱你。我也爱你们。谢谢各位,请[掌声]坐。那么,[掌声]呃,刚才真是不得了。我已成为迷因。是啊,差不多。我只是,我正活在迷因里。这就像,既有活在梦想里,也有热爱迷因,而这差不多就是正在发生的事。你知道,你就像,我觉得你更大。我是说,DOGE最初是个迷因。想想看,现在它成真了,那不是很疯狂吗?确实,确实很疯狂,但这很酷。我问你,1年前,如果有人告诉你,你会来到CPAC,并与总统合作,彻底撕碎政府、
第 3 段
沼泽,随便你想怎么称呼它,你会相信吗?不会。不会,我也不信。但这很酷。呃,这太棒了,而且,而且我,我只想说,你知道,感谢你们的支持。我是说,各位,你们知道,所以,嗯,我是说,你知道,我们正努力把好事办成,但也要像,你知道,开开心心地去做,而且,呃,你知道,还要有那种幽默感,你知道。所以,就像,就像,我是说,那些那些那些那些,某种意义上那些,左派想让喜剧变成非法的,你知道,就像你不能拿任何事情开玩笑。所以就像,喜剧糟透了,就像什么都不好笑,你不能拿任何事情开玩笑。这就像,让喜剧合法化。对,让喜剧合法化。而我们,我们已经在过去短短几个月里改变了整个文化。这个国家的整个文化已经发生了巨大转变,
第 4 段
就因为那场选举。是啊,没错。呃,你知道,言论自由,让,你知道,再次享受乐趣。感觉我们应该,我们应该过得开心,你知道。这,我是说,这是,这是一个很棒的时刻,这个地方的每个人都如此兴奋,而我还没有,我是说,当你与保守派交谈时,每个人都很开心。是啊。呃,而且每个人都感到如释重负,因为我们有大约4年一直在走向地狱。那种感觉真的很糟,尤其是快结束时,感觉真的很糟。是啊,我以为我们,我,我以为我们算是在走向一个无法回头的节点,真的,你知道。嗯,直到,所以特朗普总统赢得选举才如此至关重要。嗯,而且,呃,而且众议院和参议院都要有共和党多数席位,呃,这一点多亏了你,
第 5 段
这,这已经实现了。是啊,是啊。我想问你,我最想问你的一个问题是,而且你,你在政治上,你知道,很长一段时间里其实并不真正站在任何一边。你是个商人,很多人会远离政治。现在你站在一边,而且你选择了一边。你戴着一顶magah帽子坐在这里。是什,是什么,你知道,这是怎么发生的?那个时刻是什么?这就像,你知道,黑暗哥特式magot。这个不错。那么,是否有某个具体时刻?是否有一个一切都改变了的时刻?有,当我意识到那是个傻瓜时。嗯,不过不是,我想那是,呃,是啊,我是说,我会说,我在政治上中立了相当长一段时间。嗯,你知道,你知道,稍微倾向民主党。呃,你知道,你怎么会从那样变成这样?
第 6 段
这是怎么发生的?嗯,他们是不是疯了?是啊,他们确实,他们确实疯了。是啊,他们疯了。不,我是说,那整套取消文化,而且,而且,呃,你知道,就是试图,呃,阻止言论自由,以及,嗯,侵犯,只是总体上侵犯人们的个人自由。你知道,他们只想要国家控制,国家控制你说什么。他们,他们想,你知道,拿走你的,你的枪。嗯,而我想拿走你们的枪的原因,所以就像,没有任何东西可以反抗他们。所以这有点像,呃,你知道,我只是,我只是觉得我们只是需要恢复让美国伟大的那些,那些根本要素,也就是,呃,自由和机会。嗯,我们,我们正看到这些自由中的很多在西方消失。这,这不只是美国的问题。我们正在看着,
第 7 段
我们都在看着欧洲,并且知道他们大约领先我们00年,对吧,因为他们起步更早,而我们正看着他们如何退化,而你正试图避免这种事在这里发生。不,我是说,在欧洲,人们会因为迷因而被关进监狱。是啊。你知道,我就像,那太疯狂了。而且他们正在崩溃。我是说,这个,一个社会是,这是一个正在崩溃的社会。感觉确实如此。感觉法国50年前比今天更好。是啊,我觉得你无法质疑这一点。是啊。嗯,所以,不过是啊,我是说,真的,谢谢。我也爱你。我确实。嗯,我是说,我,我真的,我,我真的只是想做些有用的事情,比如,你知道,基本上就是制造产品,你知道,提供那些,那些好的产品和服务,而且,呃,那,那我其实并没有那么,
第 8 段
有兴趣参与政治。嗯,只是在某个时刻,好像别无选择。是啊。嗯,所以,是啊。我能不能,我能不能问你,从同一件事的另一面来说,从中立转变为遭到诋毁,在很大程度上被媒体诋毁,是什么感觉?就像,你真是,不,真的,我是说,你打开其中一些频道,兄弟,我是说,他们不,他们很愤怒。你,这一切会让你烦恼吗?对你来说,呃,那里,我是说,当他们高呼要我死时,我想那会有一点,你知道。嗯,但,而且就像,那首歌甚至都没那么好,而我喜欢,就像,把那称作死亡圣歌,那根本不算什么,拜托。他们最近一直在唱很多,甚至是好音乐。最近有很多音乐,也不是好音乐。是啊,是啊。嗯,我会说,那里,你知道,看着你正在,
第 9 段
用do做的事,就是人们喜欢它。我是说,我,我一直看着政府,而我,我一直看着政府。我看到这台巨大的机器,而且你就是知道他们会浪费,因为他们不在乎。没人能,还有更多钱会进来。他们不在乎。你正在把这一切削减掉。这个国家的每个人都知道,政府充满浪费、欺诈和滥用,而你正在做这项工作,美国人喜欢它。看着他们在政治上对此作出的反应,我无法相信他们应对得有多糟。我不知道你怎么能坐在那里,尖叫和抱怨,因为他们正在削减政府浪费,然后还试图赢得下一场选举。你怎么,你怎么试图靠那个获胜?嗯,到这个时候,我就像,我不,
第 10 段
确定左派究竟有多少是真的。是啊。你知道,呃,其中有多少是靠我们的钱撑起来的,你知道。是啊,是啊。就像,真的,你知道,你会看到这些,这些所谓的假集会,那里几乎没有任何,任何人,而媒体会像这样取景,然后像,你知道,把足足6个人拍进画面,但就像,其他人根本不在那里。就像,它,它没有民众支持。嗯,但,但但是有,但,但然后你,然后你,你了解到,好像有数千亿美元流向这些所谓的非政府组织。是啊。呃,那些,那些,那些,而且,而且是你的税款正在资助那些根本上反美的事情,而且,而且他们正在撑起他们的叙事。是的。大量政府资金一直在撑起一个左派,
第 11 段
我认为它并不像他们让人觉得的那么强大。事实上,你的税款中有巨额资金正流向传统媒体公司。是的。呃,直接来自,来自,来自政府。政府想接管媒体。是啊,这很糟糕。是啊,这就是我们有X的原因。是啊,而且那就是,那就是你花了440亿美元的原因。我是说,那是很多钱。我是说,可能比它的实际价值高,但它有一个,有一个讯息:自由无价。无价。是啊,这可能是这个国家有史以来见过的最重要的投资之一。如果你必须保护第一修正案,没有多少事情比这更重要。是啊,我是说,我,我受到了很多批,批评,人们说,好吧,那证明他是个超级白痴,从一个,你知道,就像,看,你知道,他花了大概440亿美元买下它,
第 12 段
而现在价值大概8美分,而且它不值任何意义。但,但,你知道,那里,但,但,是啊,这本质上是为了,你知道,买下表达自由。嗯,而且,呃,是啊,一旦那消失了,一切就都完了。一切就都完了。是啊,之后陷入暴政会非常快。是啊,我是说,就像,你知道,所以所有,所有这类流向媒体公司的联邦资金,就是有助于解释为什么传统媒体全都在同一时间说同样的话。是啊。就像,不是吗?就像,这很怪,就像你,你把他们放出来,就像,你知道,就像当他们,你知道,是国家的传声筒。为国家。是的。而那就是,那就是我们逐渐了解到的。嗯,是啊,很吓人,而且,而且,而且我喜欢那个,那个意思,当,他们因为总是在说,像是威胁
第 13 段
对我们的民主构成威胁,但如果你只是把民主换成官僚体制,是的,那就很说得通了,完全说得通,是的,官僚体制的大扩张,完全正确。我们来谈谈,我们来谈谈本周大家都在说的这些 DOGE 红利支票,我知道你发推文说你打算——是不是每个人都想在邮件里收到一张 5,000 美元的支票?听起来挺不错,对吧?而且最棒的部分是知道它来自哪里,那是你去年寄给他们的 5,000 美元。完全是,这是,这是,这是,这是从那些对国家具有破坏性的事情那里拿回来的钱,也是从那些憎恨你的组织那里拿回来给你的钱,太棒了。这个是不是看起来,我是说,你有没有谈过,我是说,那就像
第 14 段
太辉煌了,那就像最棒的战利品,你知道,我喜欢这个。这件事有进展吗?是的,是的,所以,是的,呃,是的,是的,我跟总统谈过,他支持这个,而且,嗯,所以听起来,你知道,这是我们要做的事情。是的。嗯,所以随着我们找到节省下来的资金,这将直接转化为减税。所以,是的,他们,我是说,我想他们今天解雇了美国国税局的 6,000 人,嗯,而且我想莱特尼克昨晚说,他们正在讨论关闭美国国税局,呃,而且我,我,我,我认为这很公平。我认为人们应该意识到这一点,我是说,我们寄给华盛顿的钱,大概每年 5 万亿或 6 万亿,那真是一笔大得离谱的钱。我是说,他们怎么说来着,比如 1 万亿秒大概是
第 15 段
30年左右之类的,我的意思是,那就是我们给他们送了多少,而他们似乎永远都不够,肯定有很多可以削减的。不,绝对是。人们问我,你去华盛顿特区时遇到的最令人惊讶的事情是什么,你知道,当你身处华盛顿特区,而且,而且我,我说,嗯,最令人惊讶的事情是支出的规模,而且实际上,嗯,当你只要,只要在以前缺乏关心和能力的地方加入关心和能力,就能多么轻易地省下数十亿美元,有时在,在1小时内就能做到。对,就像,这太疯狂了。然后他们对此嗤之以鼻,说,哦,这里几十亿,那里几十亿,我的意思是,从他们谈论这件事的方式,他们,他们,你可以看出他们不在乎,这,这点钱太少了,相比他们已经
第 16 段
习惯浪费的金额来说,这才是真正可怕的。嗯,对,不,我的意思是,确,确实,但显然,这,这只是表明,他们,他们确实对普通纳税人缺乏同理心,这些人努力工作,缴,缴税,然后,然后他们说,哦,100万美元无所谓。我就想,我觉得这非常重要,人们,你知道,所以你在说什么?我倒想拥有它。嗯,让我问你一个问题,我,你知道,我相当了解总统,看着他从2次暗杀企图中幸存下来,如果第一次没有发生,第二次就会要了他的命,你知道,这非常,因为如果没有那些额外的人,他们永远不会看到高尔夫球场围栏中伸出的那把枪。嗯,我看到了那群人,令人难以置信的是,这件事竟然发生了
第 17 段
我的意思是,这简直,而且,而且,顺便问一句,为什么我们对巴特勒的那个人仍然一无所知?这是怎么回事?嗯,但,呃,他,卡什会查个水落石出的。对,就是这样。顺便说一句,对,确,确认了,就在几个小时前。但我,我看到你进来时带的安保队伍,是,是庞大的。嗯,也没那么庞大,也许应该更庞大些,我不知道。我想你可能负担得起。但我的意思是,在处理这些事情时,你有多担心自己的安全?我的意思是,你是,你是一个被人盯上的人,你,你紧张吗?所以我,我听着,我愿意接受改善安保的建议。我得告诉你,嗯,就像,我,我,我其实并不想死。我想,嗯,我,但,但,呃,你知道,这并没那么容易。呃,所以,呃,是的,我的意思是,但,但我有,就像我经历过
第 18 段
甚至像萨尔瓦多的贝利总统这样的人,他,他设法把,就像,就像100,000名,就像mous暴徒关进监狱,而且,而且他就像,他打电话给我,他说,我担心你的安全。我说,你,你担心我的安全?我说,什么,好吧,你知道,我的意思是,是的,是的,说到在那边做这件事所需的胆量,我的意思是,是的,完全是,而且,而且还能活下来。我当时就想,你是怎么在没有死掉的情况下把所有那些暴徒关进监狱的?因为这看起来不会容易,你知道。嗯,总统的一位顶级律师现在正在调查,我猜,是查克·舒默针对美国最高法院的威胁,还有民主党一侧的一名国会议员,因为他说,你知道,基本上是说他会把战争带给你,像是把战斗带给你,我的意思是,这种
第 19 段
言辞,你们正在动那些本不该被动的东西,而我们正在和mat作战,很多人真的不希望那发生。是的,我们正在这里大举对抗《矩阵》。嗯,是的,但这必须做。是的。嗯,而且你,这当然必须。嗯,告诉我们诺克斯堡是怎么回事。对,它在肯塔基州,它是一个军事基地,那里有大量黄金,成吨成吨又成吨的黄金,地下有5,000吨黄金,或者5,000黄金,而且像这样,我的意思是,它非常安全。我们都想去看看。我很想去看看。顺便说一句,这是你们的黄金,它是,它是公众的黄金。你认为它不在那里吗?我不知道,我们只是想看看。对,我们想去看看,只是确认一下,比如有人喷了漆
第 20 段
一些什么东西,你知道。对,比如这是真金吗?B,咬一下金条,你知道,难道没有D。嗯,但老实说,我想,你知道,这件事的一部分也只是,比如,让我们,让我们,你知道,让我们找点乐子,而且,而且,而且,呃,你知道,就像,就像我说的,诺克斯堡的所有这些黄金,是公众的黄金,是你们的黄金。所以,就像,我认为你们有,就像,有权看到它,参观一下,你知道。对,我认为我们应该来一场,进,进行一场参观,然后总统昨晚就像,那不是,我想他赞成这么做。那会很酷。然后,就像,它应该是一场直播参观,比如你可以看到正在发生什么,打开门,比如门后面是什么。嗯,而且这个,你知道,我想我会看的。哦,你在开玩笑吗?会啊。我的意思是,5,000吨黄金看起来是什么样子,什么
第 21 段
那有多大?它是不是,是不是有这里这么大?肯定相当大,你知道,肯定有很多。里面还有些其他东西,比如就四处走走,比如我不知道,也许他们还在里面放了些其他东西。你也在考虑审计美联储吗?这显然是,是吗?对,当然,监管经济。我,我想你认为浪费肯定无处不在。对,不,浪费,浪费几乎无处不在。人们会问,比如怎么在,在华盛顿特区发现浪费?我就说,听着,这就像身处一个房间,呃,而这个tet,墙壁、屋顶和地板全都是靶子。所以,就像你闭上眼睛,朝任何方向开枪,你都不可能打不中,你知道。嗯,所以这,这,这相当疯狂。就像,就像你只要推动
第 22 段
事情一点点,而且,而且你就能省下数十亿美元,就一点点,你知道,这很疯狂。这很可怕,不是吗?这就是为什么我说,比如,我,关心和能力能让事情改善多少,这确实被低估了。对。嗯,而且,而且,你知道,而且我们,我们就是发现了如此多完全疯狂的事情,你知道,显然我们正在与公众分享。我们发布我们了解到的一切。嗯,你知道,只是,对,你知道。嗯,所以你可以看到它,你知道,你怎么看?而且,比如,这不是,像是,这完全太疯狂了吗?比如我们刚刚,我们刚刚做了,像是,检查社会保障的数据库,比如它说有多少活着的美国人,活着的美国人有资格领取社会保障,而根据数据库,这个数字超过4亿,我们就像,等一下
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嗯,而且又有多少人正在变老?对,而且,然后,比如,我们发现里面有1个人,像是360岁。我就想,什么,他们知道b,或者,我的意思是,你知道,当时美国还不存在,比如,所以我,所以,是的,我们当时是col,我,你知道,也许只是我,但我认为这是一个危险信号,我不知道。嗯,但是否有迹象表明,支票确实寄给了那些人,或者其中任何人?嗯,是的,我猜问题就在这,对吧?这,我的意思是,我明白社会保障署很蠢,但他们在给这些人付款吗?他们有那么蠢吗?我不知道,有一大笔钱正从社会保障署流出,事实上也正从所有福利项目流出,大约7年里有10亿的浪费,也就是每年100亿。嗯,我
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我认为这些欺诈性付款,来自,呃,总政府问责办公室的粗略,或者说估算,是每年超过5000亿美元。5000亿,那么时间有多长?每年,每年,是社会保障吗?不,不,是所有,所有政府,所有福利项目,所有福,所有福利项目。对,对。嗯,当你从整体层面看这件事时,它实际上算是说得通,比如,好吧,政府支出的7万亿美元中,你认为有多大比例是欺诈?好吧,没错,比如对7万亿的保守估计会是10%,保守估计,可能比这还高一点。对,没错,感觉就像每1美元中有25美分,对吧?但如果,如果,如果欺诈仅占7万亿的10%,那就有7000亿美元的欺诈。对。
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顺便说一句,这,这就像,利用联邦政府真的很容易,非常容易,非常容易。看看Co。对,所有人都在Co期间发财了。我的意思是,看看所有这些scers,我的意思是,这令人难以置信。我们,我们,嗯,看起来,就Co付款而言,对,呃,大约有2000亿美元的Co付款欺诈,被诈骗者拿到了国外,拿到了国外。这就像,就像,我想,听着,如果要有欺诈,那至少也应该是国内的。对。所以,你知道,但他们设法把2000亿美元弄到了国外。我就想,什么,我们没有注意到吗?让我问你,让我们谈一下移民问题。嗯,你知道,现在有这么个动向,特朗普的lat现在说的是,他削,他将削减任何形式的资金,任何形式的钱
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最终落入非法移民手中,所以如果你在资助这些庇护城市和州,他们就是这样兴旺起来的,对吧,他们在为这些酒店买单,那全是联邦的钱。如果你在纽约的城市里有一家酒店,你会看到所有这些酒店都住满了移民,那不是州里的钱,是联邦政府在承担。他会把这一切全砍掉。驱逐1500万人真的很难,而且现在的做法似乎是,让我们看看能不能,尤其是照我们现在的速度,当前的做法似乎是,让我们设法让他们自行离开。如果不再有给他们的救济制度,如果他们无法获得酒店房间和钱,他们就会回去,尤其是在没有工作的情况下。嗯,我认为这对
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人们来说非常重要,要明白拜登政府把他们能送出去的任何可能的钱都送出去了,只要有钱可以用来,呃,协助和扩大非法移民,他们就把钱送出去了,好吧。他们从原本用于帮助身处困境的美国人的FEMA资金中拿走了钱,把那笔钱送给纽约为合法移民提供住宿的豪华酒店。这是一起令人愤慨的事情。是的,他们确实这么做了。不仅如此,甚至在总统签署行政命令说必须停止之后,那些femous,那些、那些、那些某种深层政府官僚,上周仍然按下了发送键,把8000万美元送往纽约的Rosal Hotel和其他地方,就在上周。现在、现在他们因为被阻止而生气了,他们就像试图提起诉讼,让它被
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恢复。这种胆量就像是,你认为他们是在创造一个新的选民阶层吗?你认为他们开放bers长达4年的目标就是这个吗,创造一个新的选民阶层,让他们获得公民身份,让他们拿到卡,大量投票。很多这类事情,你其实不必假设存在某种宏大阴谋,只需要看看基本的激励、利益。所以,如果从根本上说,激励机制是,如果一名非法移民在某个时候投票给民主党的概率,嗯,无论是,你知道,通过作弊,但他们最终可以成为公民,可如果这个概率是80%、90%,你只要看看民主党占绝对多数的加利福尼亚州,嗯,那么激励就是让国内非法移民的数量最大化。这就是拜登政府
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当时,呃,在推动尽可能多的非法人员入境,并花掉每一美元来弄来尽可能多的人,因为他们每个人都是顾客,每个人都是选民。是的,所以整件事就是一个巨大的选民输入骗局,相当明显,非常明显。而且,而且不仅如此,他们,他们,他们实际上还创建了那个 cvp1 边境应用之类的东西,他们当时,他们可以,那就像他们可以,他们简直是在把人空运进来。不是说,像,到了那个时候,你知道,呃,人们正花你的钱被空运进来,派飞机,修一堵墙,再把他们空运过边境。是的,他们简直是在把他们空运进来。世界上没有其他,没有其他国家会做这种事。没有谁这么愚蠢。是的,而且,而且后来我们发现,那好像是一份价值100
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万美元的,呃,合同,给了某个在,呃,伦敦的人,事实上很奇怪。是的,是为了 CVP one 应用。呃,所以所以所以他们正把,呃,非法人员空运到摇摆州。是的,而且而且如果你以或许20,000人的腌制胜利获胜,而你把200,000名合法人员空运进那个州,它很快就不会再是摇摆州了。改变数字,最终,也许,也许4年或8年后,你是前……这是一场长期游戏,只是时间问题。呃,所以寻求庇护者之类的人可能需要大约1年才能登上,才能拿到绿卡,然后5年才能获得公民身份。这这这是一项保证会有回报的投资。是的,只是什么时候的问题。他们都会记得是谁把他们带进来、是谁让他们留在这里。完全正确,完全正确。我想回到
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我想谈谈交易,比如我觉得很多人,比如,并没有完全意识到,这是一场真实发生的大规模骗局,目的是让美国民主的天平倾斜。叛国,叛国。是的,是的。嗯,再问一个拜登的问题。我,我记得当时,你知道,当他们搞电动汽车那些事时,他们总会试图把你排除在外,尽管你拥有唯一一款有人想要的电动汽车。嗯,是的,你,你好像本周说过,你认为拜登把这些宇航员留在太空中,是因为他不想给你机会去救他们,让 NASA 显得糟糕,让私营部门显得更好,让你显得不错。你相信这个吗?是的,是的,不,绝对如此。所以当然,我,我算是同意。我是说,我,嗯,他为什么会想让你帮助他们下来,当
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你正支持总统时?拜登政府当时正以非同寻常的程度攻击我,呃,我是说,拜登政府治下的司法部,或者不司法部,嗯,当时,我是说,当时在起诉 SpaceX,他们,他们在起诉 SpaceX,理由是没有雇用寻求庇护者,而我们就说,但事实上我们雇用寻求庇护者是违法的,因为我们的火箭技术受,呃,ITAR 规则管辖,那意味着它是一种先进武器技术。是的。所以我们只能雇用永久居民,或者绿,或者或者公民,对吧。比如,所以所以我们做也该死,不做也该死。我们说,比如,他们怎么能因为我们没有雇用寻求庇护者而起诉我们,而实际上我们这样做是违法的?但尽管如此,还是有一个很大的司法部或者不司法部……
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就此针对SpaceX的案件,所以这显然是一种敌对局面。嗯,那些宇航员原本应该在那里待8天,现在他们已经在那里待了8个月。这说得通吗?而且,而且,而且我们,我们,我们显然本可以更早把他们带回来,但他们不想这么做,不想让任何支持特朗普总统的人显得不错,基本上就是这样。是的,那就是,那就是,那就是问题所在。嗯,他们中的很多人现在都在说,你想进入社会保障系统,你想进入所有这些不同的,进入财政部以及诸如此类的地方,是因为你在寻找个人信息,并且试图赚更多的钱。是的,我,我从没见过像你这么富有、又这么不在乎钱的人,在
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我的一生中。每次我听到关于你的故事,你都睡在另一个人的沙发上,而你本可以买下整座城市。是的,我不,我觉得你不在乎钱,对吗?不,事实上,我,我,我是说,听着,比如如果我,如果我偷一些社会保障金,我终于可以买些好[笑声]东西了。而且,而且,而且关于同一个问题,他们也在说,你们这些人会终结社会保障,会终结联邦医疗保险,会终结这些东西。我,我想你们并没有和总统谈过这种话,也没有把这当作计划,对吧?没有,事实上,我们在总统的支持下以及各机构的支持下所采取的行动,才会拯救联邦医疗保险,才会拯救社会保障。是的,嗯,而且,而且这是因为
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如果国家资不抵债,如果,如果,如果所有的,如果所有的钱都只花在支付债务利息上,那就没有钱留给任何别的事情了。是的,所以那就是我做这件事的原因,因为我,我是在看这里的大局,然后就像,天哪,我们的债务正变得失控。呃,国债的利息支出现在已经超过整个国防部的预算。仅仅为了维持我们所欠的债务,每年的利息就是1万亿美元,每年1万亿美元。这令人难以置信,而且还在迅速上升。所以,所以,就像,这是,我是说,国家和个人没有什么不同:国家超支,国家就会破产,和超支的人会破产一样。所以解决这些问题并不是可选的,而是必不可少的
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嗯,所以我们会破产。是的,我们会。嗯,这里还剩几分钟。嗯,俄罗斯。嗯,有一股巨大的推动力来自,是的,人们会说,比如,呃,你知道,我,我,我是,我是普京买下的资产。我就说,他买不起我。是的,我想,我想你的身价超过俄罗斯。想想看。我喜欢这个。所以我们,你正试图结束,你正试图结束一场战争。结束战争总是意味着你必须妥协,你必须与敌人或对手谈判,事情就是这样。而现在,他们正在对总统进行“拉辛”,因为他正尝试用一种不同的方法来处理一场他们3年半或3年都未能结束的战争。是的,他们,你知道,他们说特朗普在为入侵责怪泽连斯基。你怎么,你怎么理解所有
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这些因为他试图结束这场战争而针对他的负面情绪?好吧,首先,我认为我们应该对死在前线的人抱有同理心,那是最重要的事情。而且人们一直在死,你知道,这就像,呃,这还要持续多少年?是的,想象一下,如果那是你的儿子、你的父亲,在,你知道,他们,他们为何而死?是的,他们究竟为何而死?那条线已经阻挡,交战线在2年里几乎没有移动。是的,有整整一大群人死在战壕里,为了什么?而我,我会告诉你为了什么:这就像,为了我一生中见过的最大的图表机器,就是为了这个。这,这太不真实了。就像,通过贪污和贿赂拿走的钱,其数额令人作呕
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嗯,而且而且所以实际发生的是,那些那些,你知道,PE,那些可怜的家伙为了钱被送进绞肉机,那才是实际发生的事情,是的,而且这必须停止,而这,我是说,这就是,看起来,我是说,特朗普在这件事上非常务实,他只是,他只是看着这件事,然后他说,这是乌克兰,这不是我们的国家,它不是北约盟友,我只想看到人们不再死去,我想看到双方,我是说,想想有多少年轻人,那么多年轻男子已经死在乌克兰,以至于军队开始超龄,军队正在老龄化,你让40岁和50岁的家伙参加战争,因为20多岁的人已经没有谁没被杀或长出鬃毛了,那就是,那就是现实,想想那是多少人,如果你是一个
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哪怕有一点人道主义精神的人,你就必须结束战争,就像不管怎样,只要让它结束,是的,人们,他们需要停止死亡,嗯,而且,呃,而且而且gri机器必须停下来,你知道,所以,呃,而且我认为人们不,外面的很多人没有意识到,就像,总统有很多同理心,他真的很关心,你知道,他是个好,他是个好人,嗯,所以我还有一个问题要问你,嗯,我对你着迷已经很长时间了,呃,谢谢,嗯,我只是,我只是,我从没见过有人能,你知道,同时做这么多事情,我是说,你有火箭,你有汽车,我一直想问你,你的脑子里是什么样的,就像,是不是只有每小时th000英里,我是说,你是不是,是的,是不是根本不会,我是说,它,它会停下来吗,你睡觉吗
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你睡多久,是什么,嗯,给我们描绘一下一个天才的思想内部是什么样的,就像你怎么,你怎么做到这一切,你能回答那个问题吗,这不是个容易的问题,是的,我是说,我的思想是一场风暴,是的,所以它是一场风暴,但但是,我是说,让我也许告诉你一些,就像,你没有问这个问题,但但是我,我认为尽管如此,也许还是值得稍微,只是只是详细说说一件事,那就是,嗯,你知道,我在南非长大,而而但是我的道德观是由美国塑造的,嗯,我读漫画书,你知道,玩《龙与地下城》,而且而且,嗯,我看美国电视节目,而这,就像,看起来美国在乎做好人,你知道,在乎做正确的事,而且而且而且顺便说一句,那实际上相当不寻常,是的
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就像,就像在这个世界上,这非常不寻常,是的,并不是,实际上大多数国家都不这么做,不,他们不,不,不,嗯,所以我当时就像,是的,你知道,你想成为好人,你想站在善的一边,你想关心什么是正确的,而且,嗯,而且,呃,是的,所以那就是,那就是,呃,是的,我所相信的,你知道,所以我给了你,我在最后给了你一个难题,是的,所以,是的,太棒了,太棒了,埃隆·马斯克,好了,谢你,非常感谢你,好了,我很感激,谢谢,所以,好了,嘿,各位[掌声][音乐][掌声]先生,谢谢你[音乐]谢谢各位[音乐][掌声]
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swamp whatever you want to call it would you ever believe that no no me neither but it's cool uh this is awesome and and I I just want to say you know thanks for your support I mean guys are you know so um I mean you know we're trying to get get good things done but also like you know have a good time doing it and uh you know and have like a sense of humor you know so like like I mean the the the the sort of the the left wanted to make comedy illegal you know like you can't make fun of anything so it was like comedy sucks it's like nothing's funny you can't make fun of anything it's like legalize comedy yeah legalize comedy and we we' we've shifted the entire culture in just the last few months the whole culture of this country has shifted dramatically
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just because of that election yeah exactly uh you know freedom of speech having you know having fun again it seems like we should have we should have a good time you know it I mean it's it's a great time if everybody in this place is so excited and I haven't I mean when you talk to conservatives everybody's happy yeah uh and everybody feels this great sense of relief because we were going to hell for about four years it really felt bad especially toward the end it felt really bad yeah I thought we I I thought we were sort of heading for a point in no return really you know um until that's why it was so essential that President Trump win the election um and uh and that there there'll be a republican majority in the House and Senate uh which thanks to you
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that that has been accomplished yeah yeah I want to ask you one of the biggest questions I have for you is and you you've been you know politically you weren't really on one side of the other for a long time you're a businessman a lot of people stay away from it now you're on a side and you've chosen a side you're sitting here in a magah hat what what's it you know how did that happen what was the moment it's like you know dark Gothic magot that's a good one and what was there a specific moment was there a moment that it all changed yeah when I realized it was a fool um but no I it was I guess uh yeah I mean I'd say like I politically neutral for for quite a while um you know you know leaning a little Democrat uh you know how do you go from that to this
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how does that happen well did they go crazy yeah they did they did go crazy yeah they went crazy no I mean that whole cancel culture and and uh you know it's trying to uh stop freedom of speech and um infringe upon just in general infringe upon people's personal freedoms you know they just want State Control State control of what you say they they want to you know take away your your guns um and the reason I want to take away your guns so like there's nothing do to oppose them so it's sort of like uh you know I just I just like we just need to restore the the fundamental elements of what made America great which is uh freedom and opportunity um we're we're seeing a lot of these freedoms disappearing in the west it's it's not just about America we're watching
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we're all watching Europe and knowing that they're about 00 years ahead of us right because they got an early start and we're watching how they're devolving and you're trying to save it from happening here no I mean in Europe they put people in prison for memes yeah you know I'm like that's insane and they're collapsing I mean this a society is it's a collapsing Society it feels that way it feels like France was nicer 50 years ago than it is today yeah I don't think you can question that yeah um so but yeah I mean really thanks I love you too I do um I mean I I really I I really just wanted to do useful things like you know basically build products you know provide products and services that that are that are good and uh that that I wasn't really like
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that interested in being political um it just like there was at a certain point no choice yeah U so yeah can I can I ask you what on the same side of that coin what's it like from going neutral to being vilified largely vilified by the med like you're what the no really I mean you turn on some of these channels brother I mean they don't they're angry you does it bother you at all this to you uh there I mean when they're chanting for my death I suppose that's a little you know um but and then like the song's not even that good and I like like Co that a death chant that's nothing please they've been singing a lot lately even good music there's a lot of music lately it's not good music either yeah yeah um I would say that there you know watching what you're
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doing with do is is just people love it I mean I I've always looked at the government and I've I've always looked at the government I've seen this big machine that and you just know they waste because they don't care nobody can there's more money coming they don't care you're cutting all this out everybody in this country knows that the government is full of waste Fraud and Abuse and you're doing the work and the Americans love it watching their reaction politically to this I can't believe how bad they are at responding to this I don't know how you're going to sit there and and scream and complain because they're cutting waste out of the government and try to win another election how how do you try to win on that well I'm at this point I'm like I'm not
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sure how much of the left is even real yeah you know uh how much was propped up by our money you know yeah yeah like literally you know you see like these these sort of fake rallies where there's like hardly any any people and the media will like frame it and like you know get full six people you know in the frame but it's like nobody else is there like just it it doesn't have popular support um but but but there's but but then you then you you learn that like there's hundreds of billions of dollars going to these so-called ngos yeah uh that that that and and it's your tax dollars that are funding things that are fundamentally anti-American and and they're propping up their narrative yes a lot of that government money has been propping up a left that
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I don't think is as strong as they made it seem in fact a massive amount of of your tax dollars is going to Legacy Media companies yes uh directly from the from from the government the government wants to take over media yeah it's terrible yeah that's why we have X yeah and that's that's why you spent $44 billion I mean that's a lot of money I mean more than it was probably worth but it had a there was a message freedom is priceless priceless yeah probably one of the most important Investments this country's ever seen if you got to protect the First Amendment it's not much more important than that yeah I mean I I got a lot of CR criticism and people said well that proves he's a huge idiot from a you know like look you know he bought for whatever $44 billion
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an now worth like8 cents and it's not worth any sense but but you know there the but but the yeah it was essentially to you know buy freedom of expression um and uh yeah once that's gone it's all over it's all over yeah sent into tyranny is really quick after that yeah I mean like you know it's so all all the all the sort of federal money going to Media companies is what what helps explain why the Legacy Media all says the same thing at the same time yeah like doesn't it like it's like weird like you you put them up where it's like you know like when they you know mouthpieces for for the state for the state yes and that's that's what we've come to know um yeah scary and and and I like that that mean when where they because they're always saying like threat
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to our democracy threat to but if you just replaced democracy with bureaucracy yeah it makes a lot of sense makes perfect sense yeah Big Stretch to the bureaucracy that's exactly right let's talk about let's talk about these Doge dividend checks that everybody's talking about this week and I know you tweeted out that you're going to is everybody want like a $5,000 check in the mail it sounds kind of good right and and the best part about it would be knowing where it came from that that's five grand that you sent them last year totally it's it's it's it's money that's taken away from from things that are destructive to the country that and from organizations that hate you to you that's awesome is it does it seem I mean have you talked to I me that's like
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glorious that's like best The Spoils of battle you know I like that is there is there traction on that yeah yeah so yeah uh yeah yeah I took the president and he's supportive of that and um so it sounds like you know that's something we're we're going to do yep um so as as we're finding savings that's going to translate directly to reductions in tax so yeah they I mean I think they fired 6,000 people at the IRS today um and I think letnik said last night that they're talking about shutting down the IRS uh and I I I I think it's fair I think people should realize this is I mean the amount of money that we we send Washington like five or six trillion a year that is such an ungodly amount of money I mean what do they they say like a trillion seconds is like
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30 years or something like that I mean that's how much we send them and they seem to never have enough there's must be a lot you can cut no absolutely the people ask me what's the most surprising thing that you've encountered when you go to DC you know when you're in DC and and I I said well the most surprising thing is the scale of the expenditures and actually um how easy it is to with a just just when you add caring and competence where it was absent before you can actually save billions of dollars sometimes in this in an hour yeah like it's it's wild and then they scoff at it and say oh a few billion here there I mean the way they're talking about it they they you can see they don't care it's it's so it's such little money compared to how much they're
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used to wasting that's what's really scary um yeah no I mean ex exactly but obviously it's it's it just shows that they they really lack empathy for the average taxpayer who's working hard paying paying taxes and then and then they say oh a million dollars doesn't matter I'm like I think it matters a lot people you know so what are you talking about I'd like to have it um let me ask you a question I you know I know the president fairly well watched him survive two assassination attempts the second had the first one not happened the second one would have gotten him you know it was very cuz without those extra guys they would have never seen that gun poking through the fence at the golf course um I saw the crew that the mind-blowing that this has happened
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I mean it just and and what by the way why do we still know nothing about that guy in Butler what's going on um but uh he's he cash is going to get to the bottom of it yeah there you go by the way yeah confirm confirmed just a couple hours ago but I I saw that the security detail that you had come in is is enormous well it's not that enormous maybe it should be bigger I don't know I think you can probably afford it but I mean how concerned are you about your safety dealing I mean it's you are you are a wanted man are you are you nervous so I I look I'm open to ideas for improving security I have to tell you um like I I I don't actually have a death wish I think um I but but uh you know it's not that easy uh so uh yeah I mean but but I have like I've had
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even like people like President belli from El Salvador who who managed to put in prison like like 100,000 like mous thugs and and he was like he called me he's like I'm worried about your security I'm like you're you're worried about my security I'm like what okay you know I mean yeah yeah talk about guts to do that down there I mean yeah totally and and survive I'm like I was like how did you put all those thugs in prison without dying cuz seems like that would have been not easy you know well there's a the the president has one of his top attorneys is now investigating I guess Chuck Schumer for threats against scotus a congressman on the Democrat side for saying you know basically saying he going to bring a war to you like a fight to you I mean the
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rhetoric you guys are screwing with things that are not supposed to be messed with and we're fighting mat a lot of people that really don't want that to happen yeah we're fighting The Matrix big time here um yeah but has got to be done yeah um and you it certainly does um what's what's going on with tell us about Fort Knox yeah it's Kentucky it's a military base it's a ton of gold tons and tons and tons of gold 5,000 tons of gold or 5,000 of gold are there in the ground and like this I mean it's a very secure we all want to see it I'd love to see it like this is your gold by the way it's the it's the Public's gold do you think it's not there I don't know we just want to see it yeah we want to go see it and just make sure like somebody did a spray paints
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some or something you know yeah like is this real gold B the bite the bar you know didn't D um but I think honestly you know part of this also is just like let's let's you know let's have some fun and and and uh you know like like I said this this all this gold at Fort Knox it's the Public's gold it's your gold so like I think you have like a right to see it take a tour you know yeah I think we should have a do do a a tour and then the president last night was like that's not I think he's in favor of it that would be cool and then like it should be like a live tour like you can see what's going on open the door like what's behind it well and this you know I think I'd watch that oh are you kidding yeah I mean what is what is 5,000 tons of gold look what
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how big is that is it is it the size of this it's got to be pretty big you know it's got to be a lot of there's some other stuff in there like just walk around like I don't know maybe they got some other stuff in there are are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as well which is obviously is it yeah sure regulatory economy I I imagine you think the waste has got to be everywhere yeah no waste waste is pretty much everywhere people ask like how can you find waste in in like in DC I'm like look it's like being in a room uh and this tet the the wall the roofs and the floor are all Targets so it's like you're going to close your eyes and go shoot in any direction you can't miss you know um so it's it's it's pretty wild like like you just push
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on things a little bit and and you save billions of dollars like just a little bit you know it's wild it's scary isn't it it's that's why I say like I it really is underrated if you add caring and competence how much things improve yeah um and and you know and we we just find so many totally crazy things which you know obviously we're sharing with the public WE Post everything we learn um you know just yeah you know um so you can see it you know what do you and like it's like isn't it like it's to totally while like we did just we just did like a check the database on Social Security like says how many alive Americans alive Americans eligible for Social Security are there and according to the database it's over 400 million and we're like wait a second
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um and how many are getting old again yeah and and then like we found like one person in there is like 360 years old I'm like what they know b or I mean you know America doesn't exist before at that time like so I so yeah we were col I you know maybe it's just me but I think it's a red flag I don't know um but are there indications that those that there were checks going to those people or any of those people well yeah that's I guess the question right this I mean I get the Social Security Administration is dumb but are they paying these people are they that dumb I don't know a bunch of money is going out from the Social Security Administration and in fact from all entitlements programs billion in waste in like 7 years that's 10 billion a year well I
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I think the the fraudulent payments the the rough or estimate from uh General government accountability office is on is over $500 billion a for a year 500 billion and how long the time of per year per year on on Social Security no no on on all on all government on all entitlements all entit all entitlements yeah yeah um it sort of actually makes sense when you look at the thing from a top level in like okay the $7 trillion was spending by the government what percentage do you think is fraudulent okay exactly like a conservative estimate of the 7 trillion would be 10% conservative probably a little higher than that yeah exactly feels like a quarter out every dollar right but if if if the Fraud's only 10% of 7 trillion you've got $700 billion of fraud yeah
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and by the way it's it's like really easy to take advantage of the federal government it's very easy very easy look at Co yes everybody got rich during Co I mean look at all these scers I mean it's unbelievable we we um it it looks like for in terms of the co payments yeah uh there was something like $200 billion of of Co payment fraud taken by frauders out of the country out of the country that's like like I think listen if there going to be fraud it should at least be domestic yeah so you know but they manag to get $200 billion out of the country I'm like what didn't we notice that let me ask you let's do immigration here for a second um you know there's this move now that Trump's lat is saying is that he cut he's going to cut funding any kind of money
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that ends up in the hands of illegal immigrants so if you're funding these Sanctuary cities and states that's how they Thrive right they're paying for these hotels that's all federal money if you got a hotel in your city in New York you got all these hotels full of migrants that's not State money that's the feds are covering that he's going to cut all that it's really hard to deport 15 million people and it seems like the move now is let's see if we especially at the rate that we're going it seems like the move now is let's make it so that they leave on their own if there's no longer a dole system for them if they can't get their hands on hotel rooms and money they're going to go back especially if there's no work well I think it's really important for
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people to understand that the P the Biden Administration sent any possible money that they could they could if there was money they could send to uh facilitate and amplify illegal immigration they sent it okay they took money from FEMA meant for helping Americans in distress and sent that money to luxury hotels for legal immigrants in New York that is a an outrage yeah they actually did that and and not only that even after the president signed an executive order saying it has to stop the femous the the the sort of whatever deep State bureaucrats still still pressed send on $80 million last week to go to the Rosal Hotel in New York and other places last week and now and now they're mad that they got stopped and they're like trying to sue to have it be
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restored it's like the gumption is you think they're creating a new voter class would you think that was the goal when they open up the bers for four years create a new voter class get them citizenship get them in cards vote a lot of these things like you don't actually have to assume some Grand conspiracy you just need to look at basic incentives benefits so if the incentives fundamentally if if the probability that an illegal is going to vote Democrat at some point um whether it's a you know cheating but eventually they can become citizens but if the if probability is like 80 90% you just look at California which is super majority Dem um and then the incentive is to maximize the number of illegals in the country that is why the Biden Administration
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was uh pushing to get in as many illegals as possible and spend every dollar possible to get as many because every one of them is a customer every one of them is a voter yeah so the whole thing was a giant voter importation scam pretty obvious very obvious and and then they moreover then they they they actually created the cvp1 Border app thing where they they were which is like where they could they were literally fly people in it's not like like at the point in which you know uh people are being flown in at at your expense sending planes building a wall fly them over the Border yeah they're literally flying them in no other no other country in the world would do something like this nobody is as stupid yeah and and then we found that it was like a $100
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million uh contract given to some guy in uh London actually odly enough yeah for the CVP one app uh so so so they're they're flying uh illegals into the swing States yeah and and if you've got like a marinate victory of maybe 20,000 people and you fly 200,000 legals into that state it's not going to be a swing state for long change the numbers eventually maybe maybe in four or eight years you're ex it's a long game it's just a matter of time uh so it might take like a year for an asy Seeker or something to get on the to get a green card then five years for the citizenship it's it's it's an investment that is guaranteed to pay off yeah just a question of when they all remember who brought them in and who left them here exactly exactly I want to go back
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I want to talk about deal like I think a lot of people like don't quite appreciate that this was an actual real scam at scale to tilt the scales of Democracy in America treasons treason yeah yeah um one more Biden question I I remember when you know when they would do the electric car stuff they would always try to box you out even though you have the only electric car anybody wants um yeah you you said I think this week that you think that Biden left these astronauts up in space because he didn't want to give you an opportunity to save them make NASA look bad make the private sector look better make you look good you believe that yeah yeah no absolutely so the of course I I kind of agree I mean I um why would he want to let you help them come down when
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you're supporting the President Biden Administration was was attacking me next level uh I mean the department of of Justice or Injustice under the Biden Administration um was I mean there was suing SpaceX there there suing SpaceX for not hiring Asylum Seekers and we're like but it's actually illegal for us to hire Asylum Seekers because we're rocket technology is covered under uh itar rules which is that means it's an advanced weapons technology yeah and so we can only hire permanent residents or green or or or citizens right like so so we're damned if we do it damned if we don't we said like so how can they sue us for not hiring Asylum Seekers when it's actually illegal for us to do so but nonetheless there was a big Department of Justice or Injustice
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case about this against SpaceX so obviously it was an antagonistic situation um and those astronauts were supposed to be up there for 8 days and now they're up there for eight months does that make any sense and and and we we we obviously could have brought them back sooner but they didn't want it to didn't want anyone who supported president Trump to look good basically yeah that's the that's the that's the issue the um a lot of them are saying right now that the reason that you want to get into Social Security that you want to get into all of these different into Treasury and things like that is that you're looking for personal information and you're trying to make more money yeah I I've never met anybody as rich as you that cared less about money in
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my life every time I hear a story about you you're sleeping on a couch of some other guy in a city that you could buy the entire thing yeah I'm not I don't think you care about money do you no actually I I I mean listen like if I if I steal some social security I can finally buy nice [Laughter] things and and and on that same question they're also talking about you guys are going to end Social Security you're going to end Medicare you're going to end these things I I don't imagine that conversation has been had with the president and that's that's the plan no in fact the actions that we're taking uh with the support of the president and the support of the agencies is what will save Medicare what will save Social Security yeah um and and it's it because
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if the country goes insolvent if if if all the if all the money is just spent on paying interest on debt there's no money left for anything yeah so that's that's the reason I'm doing this is because I'm I was looking at the big picture here and it's like man our debts getting out of control uh the the interest payments interest on the national debt now exceeds the entire defense department budget it's a trillion a year in interest just to carry the money that we owe is a trillion a year that is unbelievable and Rising rapidly it's so so like it's I mean a country is not different from a person country overspends country goes bankrupt same with same as a person who overspends goes bankrupt so it's it's not like optional to solve these things it's essential
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um so we're going to go bankrupt yes we are um couple minutes left here um Russia um there's a huge push from the yeah people like like say like uh you know I I'm I'm a I'm a bought asset of Putin I'm like he can't afford me yeah I think I think you're worth more than Russia think about it I like that so we you're trying to end you're trying to end a war it's all ending a war always means you have to compromise you have to negotiate with an enemy or an adversary that's just what it is and right now they are Lassing the president for trying a different method to a war that they haven't been able to end for three and a half years or three years yeah they you know they're saying Trump's blaming zalinsky for The Invasion how do you how do you process all
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of the negativity toward him for trying to end this war well first of all I think we should have empathy for the people dying at the front lines that's the most important thing and people have been dying you know it's like H how many more years is this supposed to go on yeah and imagine if that was your son your father at you know what what are they dying for yeah what exactly are they dying for that line has bar the line of Engagement has barely moved for 2 years yeah there's a whole much of people dead in trenches For What and I I'll tell you what for what it's like for the biggest graph machine that I've ever seen in my life that's for what it's it's unreal like the the the amount of money that that is being taken in in graft and bribery is is disgusting
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um and and so what's actually happening is that those those you know PE those poor guys are getting sent into a meat grinder for money that's what's actually going on yeah and it needs to stop and that's I mean that's it seems I mean Trump is so pragmatic on this he just he's just looking at it and he's saying it's Ukraine it's not our country it's not a NATO Ally I just want to see people not dying I want to see on both sides I mean think about how many young so many young men have died in Ukraine that the Army is starting to age out the military is aging out you got 40 and 50y old guys fighting in a war because there's nobody left that's not killed or maned in their 20s that is that's the reality of it think about how many people that is if you're a
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humanitarian at all you just got to end the war like no matter what just get it over with yes people they need to stop dying um and uh and and the gri machines got to stop you know so uh and I think people that don't a lot of people out there don't realize like the president has a lot of empathy he really cares you know he's a good he's a good man um so I got one more for you um I've been fascinated by you for a very long time uh thanks um I've just I just I've never seen anybody that can you know do so many things at the same time I mean you got the Rockets you got the cars I've always wanted to ask you what is it like inside your mind like does is it just a th000 miles an hour I mean are you yeah is it just not I mean does does it ever stop do you sleep
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how much do you sleep What's um paint us a picture of inside of of the mind of of a genius like how do you how do you do all this can you answer that question it's not an easy question yeah I mean my mind is a storm yeah so it's a storm but but I mean Let Me Maybe tell you something like you didn't ask the question but but I I think it's worth kind of nonetheless maybe just just elaborating on something which is um you know I grew up in in South Africa and and but my morality was informed by America um I read comic books you know played Dungeons and dragon and and um I watched American TV shows and it like it seemed like America cared about being the good guys you know about doing the right thing and and and that's actually pretty unusual by the way yeah
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it's like it's like in the world it's very unusual yeah it's not like actually most countries don't do that no they don't don't no um and so I was like yeah you know you want to be the good you want to be on the side of good you want to care about what's right and um and uh yeah so that's that's uh yeah what I believe in you know so I gave you I gave you a tough one at the end yeah so yeah that's great that's great Elon Musk all right than you thank you so much all right I appreciate thank you so all right hey guys [Applause] [Music] [Applause] sir thank you [Music] thanks guys [Music] [Applause]