好的，大家好，嗯，那么，呃，很抱歉开始晚了，呃，很不幸，我们的服务器遭到了一次大规模的，呃，分布式拒绝服务攻击，而且，呃，我们所有的、所有的，呃，数据线路都饱和了，基本上有数百吉比特的数据被“萨特·克里德”了，嗯，我们，呃，我们认为已经克服了其中的大部分，所以，呃，现在是时候继续了，但是，嗯，正如这次、这次大规模攻击所表明的那样，呃，对于人们仅仅听听，嗯，特朗普总统要说什么，存在很大的反对声浪，而且，嗯，所以，但我很荣幸能进行这次对话，我想强调，这是一场、这是一场对话，嗯，它真正的目的只是让人感受一下唐纳德·特朗普在对话中究竟是什么样的人，嗯，如果你只是

没有听他们以正常方式讲话，就很难感受到一个人的氛围，而且当，你知道，当有一场、当有一场对抗性采访时，没有人在对抗性采访中会是自己，嗯，所以，而这其实是面向那些，呃，某种思想开放的独立选民，他们，嗯，你，我只是在试着拿定主意，呃，所以你可以理解，比如，什么、什么是，你知道，进行一场对话究竟是什么感觉，所以，嗯，很荣幸，唐纳德，很、很高兴，呃，交谈，嗯，我们昨天进行了一场、一场很棒的对话，就像你昨天提到的，如果我们能直接把那场对话录下来并发布出去，那会非常好，我希望我们今天也能进行类似的对话。嗯，我认为我们会的，我相当确定我们会的，而且祝贺你，因为我看到你凭借这个

如此数以百万计的人，而那是一种荣誉，我们把那视为一种荣誉，然后，呃，你确实想让某些声音沉默，通常那些声音是有话要说的，是建设性的，很多时候是建设性的，所以我们必须把这视为一种荣誉，不过今晚祝贺你，那太棒了。嗯，谢谢，嗯，好吧，也许，呃，我们可以从，嗯，我是说那次暗杀未遂开始，呃，那是一件不可思议的事，而且我必须说，呃，你知道，你在那次评估未遂中的行动鼓舞人心，嗯，你知道，你没有躲避事情，没有俯身躲下，嗯，你把拳头举到空中，说战斗、战斗、战斗，而我认为那是，我是说，你知道，美国总统代表美国，而我认为那

就是、那就是美国，那就是炮火下的坚强，而且，嗯，所以那是，呃，你知道，我，呃，很高兴支持你，作为，呃，美国总统在这里再任一个任期的一大，你知道，原因，就是，呃，那实在是、那实在是令人难以置信地鼓舞人心，不过、不过我是说，对你来说那是什么感觉？不愉快，我得，我说那是血，我流了更多血，我不知道我、我不知道有那么多血，医生后来告诉我，耳朵是一个，呃，如果你要中弹，会流很多血的地方，但是，呃，在这种情况下，这可能是你甚至能想到的最佳替代情况，因为它以正确的角度射来，而且，呃，你知道，那是一次、那是一次猛烈的撞击，那非常，我想你会说很超现实，但它并不超现实，你知道

我当时告诉某个人，你会遇到像这样的情况，它们比这轻微得多，而你会觉得那是一种超现实的情形，但我从未有过那种感觉，我立刻就知道那是一颗子弹，我立刻就知道它打在耳朵上，是的，而且因为它，你知道，打得非常重，但打中了耳朵，而且我还听到人们喊子弹、子弹，你知道，趴下、趴下，因为我，你知道，相当顺利、相当迅速地向下移动了，在我趴下后，有子弹正从我头顶飞过，所以我很高兴我趴下了，更大的奇迹是我当时正看向枪手所在的准确方向，所以它以一个，呃，破坏性远低于任何其他角度的角度击中、击中了我，所以那就是奇迹，那是对于那些不相信

上帝的人，我认为我们都得开始思考这件事，你必须，呃，你知道，我、我现在是个信徒了，我想我是更加虔诚的信徒了，而且很多人都对我这么说过，很多很棒的人实际上都对我这么说过，但那，呃，那很不可思议，我碰巧正好转到了那个完美的角度，而且，呃，全都是因为我放下了一张关于移民的图表，它显示数字是如此之大，我、我更喜欢那张图表了，也许这是一个迹象，也许那是一个迹象，你知道，这是一个移民迹象，你、你突出强调了一个、一个严重问题，而就在那一刻，子弹击中了先生你的，你知道，击中了你的耳朵，但是、但是、但是，你知道，先你的、你的头，我是说，嗯，令人惊讶的是，呃，那块标牌，我说把那块标牌放下来，还有移民，而且它实际上大约是

八分之一秒，在那一刻它会没事，而、而在那之后，无论你面朝哪个、哪个方向，都会是一场灾难，但它恰好有那个、那个完美的角度，正对着这个枪手，非常悲惨的情况，如此悲惨的情况，正如你所知，我们失去了一位很棒的人科里，他是一名消防员，一位、一位很棒的绅士，一位很棒的、一位很棒的特朗普支持者，他有一个、一个简直棒极了的家庭，而且他是个了不起的人，而我的一个朋友走过来，埃隆，说我想给这个家庭提供某种，呃，帮助，我说那太好了，他说你介意吗，我说我一点也不介意，然后他开了一张100万美元的支票，交、交给了妻子，而你知道，呃，她说这真的很好，但我宁愿让我的丈夫回来，这对某个人来说是一句很美好的

话，说实话，她、她很棒，这个家庭很棒，我们为他们以及，呃，另外两位先生筹集了很多钱，他们也都是令人难以置信的人，他们伤得非常严重，人们以为他们活不下来，但他们活了下来，巴特勒地区的医生，我告诉你，他们不可思议，他们救了那两个人，而且，呃，他们确实伤得很重，两个人伤势同样严重，呃，而我们以为我们，我的第一个问题是，因为我听到子弹从我上方飞过，我说有多少人被杀了，因为我们那里有庞大的人群，规模惊人，是的，成千上万的人，而且没有空地，我是说，那里只有、全都是人、人，所以我说有多少人被杀了，因为我知道还有其他枪声响起，当然，而他们

说，呃，我们还不知道，但有些人受了重伤，而且，呃，我必须赞扬特勤局狙击手，他们这么称呼他，或者神枪手，但狙击手，因为他不知道出了问题，呃，他一直，他显然是一名非凡的射手，而他不知道出了问题，却能够在5秒内辨认出这一切，而且他从很远的地方只用了一颗子弹，我猜可能大约有400码，枪手是130，但他在、他在场地和讲台的另一边，他看到了枪口冒出的、冒出的烟和火焰，立刻认了出来，并立刻开了一枪，那是从非常远的地方打出的一记完美射击，而如果他、如果他没有那么做，埃隆，他本来会，我是说，如果他本来会有很多人、多得多的人

本来可能会受重伤并被杀，所以我，我必须向他致敬，因为那也很超现实，你知道，他和他们共事了23年，而他从来没有遇到过这样的事，突然间他必须采取行动，而采取行动、向某个人开枪是一件非常艰难的事，但他看到了，呃，他看到了枪，看到了烟，看到了枪口的火焰，距离非常远，我显然视力非常好，他的视觉能力非常好，我认为从事那种工作也需要如此，但他，呃，他非常迅速地瞄准，据他们说，从远距离开枪大约用了5秒，一颗子弹，如果那没有发生，因为枪手有很多子弹，他随身带了很多、很多弹药筒，所以我是说，我是说，那，那显然

你知道，嗯，你知道，他非常有信心开出那一枪，呃，阻止那次刺、那次暗杀企图，嗯，但，但是我的意思是，系统的其他环节似乎确实存在一些相当重大的失误，就像完全说不通，一个枪手究竟是怎么爬到130码外的屋顶上的，嗯，这看起来太疯狂了，嗯，我想大多数人，像人们都在想，那种事究竟怎么可能发生。嗯，你知道，我从两个方面看这件事，屋顶上本来不应该有任何人，呃，因为那里有成千上万的人，所以有人看见了他，还有一个穿红衬衫的女人，呃，衬衫上到处都是特朗普的字样，她在尖叫，那家伙有枪，你知道，你

可能看到了，那是个拿枪的家伙，我，这就像，我只是，我只是，我想，我是说，就我而言，而且我想可能许多公众都在想，这到底是怎么回事，你知道，基本上有人指出屋顶上有个拿枪的人，是啊，嗯，而且他们看见了，但不知怎么的，这件事没有得到处理，嗯，那，那确实看起来很疯狂。嗯，他们，他们会从中吸取教训，当地警察之间的沟通，他们算是有所察觉，然后最终有一个人把自己撑上屋顶，几乎做不到，因为你知道，他当时正把自己往上拉，是啊，他看到了那个拿枪的人，那个拿枪的人把枪指向了他，他以为自己可能会中枪，但你知道，他当时就像正把自己往上拉

而正因为如此，他没法去拿自己的枪，而且他摔了下去，实际上伤得非常严重，他的，呃，腿，他的脚踝，我听说伤得非常严重，但，但是他摔了下去，而且他确实，你知道，据我了解，他确实说了，上面有个拿枪的人，枪击在那之后很快就开始了。我认为这，我认为这迫使枪手也许更快地行动，你知道，据说他是个非常优秀的射手。是啊，我的儿子们，呃，唐和埃里克，他们无法相信发生的事，但他们说，从130码的距离，即使枪法差也几乎每次都能击中那个目标。他们说，这就像打高尔夫时让一个图奥夫英尺远的推杆进洞。是啊，这不难，这不是一次困难的射击，这不是，这不是远距离射击。那名，呃，特勤局人员打的才是远距离的一枪，他的距离，你知道，实际上是3倍

所以，呃，你知道，这，这是一件可怕的事。听着，呃，关于特勤局，我必须这么说，当我倒下时，你知道，我倒下是因为，我想他们在大喊，呃，但其他人也是，因为人们看见了这件事发生，你知道，当时有那么多人，其中一个奇迹是没有人逃跑。我的意思是，如果，如果枪响了，人群控制人员给我们展示过这一点，当枪响时，而这种事确实会发生在体育场里，在足球比赛或某种比赛中，每个人都会逃跑，他们称之为像牛群一样的踩踏，但每个人，而且很多人会在那些踩踏中丧生。我们的人数比，你知道，一些这样的比赛或这些赛事里的人还多，而，呃，没有人离开。你知道，我们后面的看台上有一小群人

而且那里坐满了人，你看着事情发生时的现场，通常他们会逃跑，但他们没有离开，他们看到我受伤了，他们看到很多血，他们看到我倒下了，感觉几乎就像他们想和我在一起。嗯，前面有数千、数万人，在巴特勒，目光所及之处全都是人，而且，而且，呃，也有很多媒体。有，你知道，很多摄像机在拍摄这件事，这正是让它如此不同的原因，因为通常会发生不好的事情，但你从来没有它的画面，而这里所有这些摄像机都拍下了它。所以，呃，你知道，算是很惊人，但其中一件有意思的事是，没有任何人逃离，没有任何人发生踩踏，没有人

而且我身后有一些人，他们站了起来，正在看着，就像，你知道，我的意思是，我告诉你，你会想要，你会想要让他们和你一起待在狐狸大厅里。我想见见其中一些人，因为这和你听到的太不一样了。但是，所以，所以我倒下了，但特勤局的那些人，当时子弹就在我头顶飞过，你能听见它们嗖嗖飞过，而，而且这些人扑过来压在我身上，你，还有一位年轻女士凯特，呃，会跳，他们，他们动作非常快，F，而且我告诉你，那需要极大的勇气。现在确实缺乏协调，呃，有，你知道，显然每个人都明白，应该有人负责看守那，那栋建筑。是的，我的意思是，就像，我的意思是，我的意思是，从那些，那些空中视角看，那栋建筑

会是狙击手的头号位置。我，它就像，它就像，如果你要选择，比如什么是最喜欢的，如果你，所以目标是刺杀，你最喜欢的位置是什么？那栋建筑，除此之外，那栋建筑会排在第1位，那会是，你不可能，你能要求一个更好的位置。就像，那本来会是这个，你知道，人们认为，当那位，呃，当地警察，顺便说一句，你知道，他真的，呃，他做了自己应该做的事，他再也抓不住了，然后当他的头刚刚探到上面时，这个人就站在那里，用枪指着他的头，而当他再次摔下去时，他的脚踝伤得非常严重，但他当时正在发出呼叫。可是接下来发生的是，枪击很快就发生了，所以他们认为的是

这个人带着枪跑到了他早就计划好的位置，呃，他跑到那个位置，开始快速射击，也许这就是他，呃，嗯，他算是射偏了的原因。我的意思是，你知道，他……本来可能，本来可能会是U，本来可能会是一个严重得多的问题。但如果，如果你当时没有转头，他肯定会击中你。所以，比如，你知道，那是一次，那，那真的是千钧一发，那是个奇迹。如果我不得不转头，是的，我现在就不会在和你说话了，尽管我很喜欢你。确实。我不会，我不会从另一个回合和我说话。是的，没错，我们会从另一个地方交谈，但，呃，那是一次，那是一次，你知道，那是一次非常可怕的经历。那家，那家巴特勒医院做得非常出色，呃，那些医生当时

太好了，每个人都非常好。那里出了一个差错，如果、如果、如果有人知道，因为人们听说，你知道，就是有一种不好的感觉，有人在附近，你知道现在那个故事已经……如果有人本可以说，因为他们经常会说，你知道，比如会有雷暴或什么的，因为我已经做过，我想超过300场，我想我做的远不止这些，但我们做了很多，而他们经常会说，先生，您能等10分钟吗？先生，您能等20分钟吗？头顶有暴风雨或闪电之类的，对吧，这种事经常发生，而这本来会是让这种情况发生的绝佳时机，但它、它没有协调好，那就是问题所在。嗯，呃，那是，呃，你的，我认为

呃，你、你的，嗯，在枪火正烈时的行动，你知道，就像我、我觉得那里令人钦佩的是，你在那种情况下无法伪装勇敢，勇气是本能的，要么有，要么没有，它不是一种后天培养的反应，所以我只想说，呃，我认为很多人都钦佩你、你、你在那里身处枪火之下时的勇气，而且，嗯，是的。非常感谢，我、我很感激。我没有，我觉得我没有去想它，我只是想、想起来，我想站起来，我想让人们知道，你知道，当他们，呃，压在我身上掩护我时，我感觉自己没事，实际上把我遮得非常严实，而且非常勇敢，但是，呃，我想起来，我说我想起来，而，呃，他们想，你知道，他们那里什么都有，他们有

他们想要担架，我不喜欢担架，而且我知道我的耳朵中弹了，但我知道自己其他地方没有中弹。他们觉得我别的地方中弹了，因为血非常多，而且他们……我别的地方中弹了，他们当时说，先生，你、你、你被击中的不止那一年。我说，不，我是空中中弹，我想起来，让我起来。于是我们……我站了起来，而人群不知道该怎么想，我是说，这里有这么、这么多人，而他们确实，你可以看出他们很困惑，他们不知道该怎么想。我想让他们知道我没事，让他们知道这一点对我非常重要，然后他们沸腾了。你、你看过之后的情况，我起来时他们没有沸腾，因为他们不知道我是不是还活着，你真的无法

判断。当我站起来时，在那只手之前，在那个，你知道，举到空中的拳头之前，呃，他们不知道我是否还活着，谁都不知道。而，呃，当我举起拳头时，他们、他们只是如释重负，又高兴又激动，现场彻底沸腾了。那相当惊人，那是一个、那是一件可怕的事，但也令人难以置信地感动。是的，嗯，好吧，而且、而且我是说，说到那张、那张、那张、那张让你转过头、呃，实际上救了你一命的幻灯片，呃，那是非法移民那一边，也许这、也许这值得谈谈。就是那张幻灯片，那张幻灯片说非法移民救了我的命。你说得对，但必须正好是那个角度，我是说，那、那真是太绝了，被非法移民救了，你知道，不过令人难以置信的是，当你谈到

那些概率时，你必须正好处在那个角度。但、但令人难以置信的是，我使用那张图表的次数不到20%，那只是一瞬间。它总是在我的左边，从来不在右边，而且总是在演讲结束时。所以这里我们看到，它在右边，不在左边；是在开头，不是在结尾。就连把它放出来的人也毫无准备，而他们做得非常好，立刻就把它放出来了，幸运的是如此。但我向右看，而那头公牛、而那颗子弹呼啸而过，击中了我的耳朵，呃，所以这很惊人。但当你想到这种概率，而且你知道，正常情况下你不会用它，正常情况下我不会有那个东西，然后，你知道，故事就会非常不同。这非常……我、我说

这是上帝的作为，发生这件事是个奇迹，我为此感到荣幸，我为此感到荣幸。好吧、好吧，在你被粗鲁地打断之前，你、你、你刚才要说什么有关非法移民的事？嗯，我正要说那些数字有多好。顺便说一句，我们要回巴特勒，我们会在10月回去。一切都安排好了，巴特勒的人们棒极了。那是一个很大的、很棒的地区，太棒了，这些人令人难以置信。呃，比如那3个人，就科里遇害以及另外2个人而言，那些、那些家属，我稍微了解了他们，而那些家属都很了不起。但我们要回到巴特……而，呃，我想我大概会这样开场，呃，正如我在遭到如此可怕的打断之前所说，但是，是的，被如此粗鲁地打断

被一次暗杀企图打断。不，但是乔，有些人已经中午了，那张图表只是一张图表，显示在我的最后一周，我们取得了最好的，呃，非法，呃，移民数字，意思是阻止，呃，它处于最低点。你见过那张图表，它已经变得相当有名，但那是有记录以来的最低点。那真的是，嗯，我是说，我对那些数字非常自豪。然后你看看这些人做了什么，呃，卡姆拉和乔，你看看发生了什么，他们就那样放任不管。我有“留在墨西哥”政策，我有所有这些非常好的不同政策，呃，像汤姆·霍曼和边境巡逻队的布兰登·贾德这样的人，所有这些人都上过电视，他们说这是我们有过的最佳数字。我们有如此多不同的杰克斯，抓了又放

在墨西哥，而不是在合众国。我们曾经在美国抓了又放，我们把它放在墨西哥。我们有如此多的事情，我们有这样的规定：如果有人，很多人进来时带有传染病，我们让一切都通过了，如果你有传染病，我很抱歉，但我们能、我们不能允许你进入这个国家。所以我们确实创下了纪录，而，呃，我所做的只是展示那一点，而我、我有时艾德它，而在这种情况下，我可以告诉你，我很高兴自己用了它。但、但是那些数字非常出色。不过我要一直和那张图表一起睡，我要、我要和那张图表一起睡。那张图表，呃，非常重要，因为很多原因都非常重要。嗯，我是说、我是说，这样说是否准确：你支持

合法移民，嗯，但、但我们也需要关闭非法移民，呃，尤其是未经审查的非法移民，因为你、你知道，而且、而且、而且这和说每一个非法移民都是坏人并不相同。事实上，嗯，我认为大多数非法移民其实都是好人，但、但除非对越过边境的人进行可靠的投注，否则你无法分辨，这、这是否、这是否代表你的立场？我说得非常简单，他们必须合法入境，他们必须接受检查，因为你看，卡玛拉是边境Z，现在她却否认这一点。我所做的每一件事，她、她都说她在边境问题上很强硬，我们会强硬。嗯，她不必说，她现在就可以把它关闭，他们可以

他们现在就可以采取行动，情况很糟糕。呃，小费不征税，突然间她发表演讲，说小费将不征税。我几个月前就说过这话。顺便说一句，他们之前做的恰恰相反，你知道，他们不仅对小费征税，而且还雇用了88,000名国税局特工，其中许多人被指派去找服务员和球童，以及所有这些靠小费的人。他们一个政策，他们有一个政策，他们、他们真的要追着你不放，而且确实在极其恶劣地骚扰人们。然后突然之间，出于政治目的，她说，你知道，她拿出了我说过的话，我认为这很糟糕，而且我认为这也对他们造成了沉重打击。这些人是假的。现在他们还说自己在边境做得很好，而我们有历史上最糟糕的数字

世界的，不是我们国家的，历史上从未有任何国家经历过这样的灾难。我们已经有了，我相信，而且我想你也相信这一点，你知道，你会听到12 milli，我相信有超过2000万人进入了我们的国家，许多人来自拘留所、监狱、来自，来自精神病院，或者它更大型的版本是疯人院，而且许多人是恐怖分子。我告诉你，他们，他们不仅来自南美洲，他们来自非洲，他们来自世界各地，他们来自亚洲，他们来自中东，他们来自那些，呃，在10月7日愚蠢而可怕地轰炸以色列的国家，他们来自世界各地。他们，而且你知道，你看看，这太令人悲伤了，10月

7日，因为这本来绝不应该发生。当你看着乌克兰时，这太令人悲伤了，这本来绝不应该发生。我们有一个有缺陷的政府，这些人是有缺陷的，他们不是应该管理它的人。但你最能看清这一点的地方是边境，因为你当时，你每个月有数百万人涌入，然后她站出来，试图假装她要做点什么。她有3年半的时间，而且顺便说一句，他们还有另外5个月可以做点什么，但他们不会做任何事，全是空谈。她无能，他也无能，坦率地说，我认为她比他更加无能，而这已经很说明问题了，因为他也不怎么样。是的，不，我，我认为，拥有安全的边境至关重要。我

我的意思是，除非你拥有安全的边境，嗯，还有安全的选举，否则你真的算不上一个国家。是的，绝对要有安全的选举。呃，所以，拥有真正的边境就是至关重要的，或者、或者、或者我们能作为一个国家运转，而我们的服务，你知道，我们的核心服务在很多城市都不堪重负。嗯，呃，而我，但正如我们之前谈到的，我认为，拥有一个合法移民流程，一个顺畅、高效并且执行良好的流程，而且我，你知道，作为一个非法移民来说，嗯，我认为，我的意思是，可以这样来想：你希望谁加入你的团队？嗯，你知道，比如你希望谁加入美国队？而且我认为我们只想说，好吧，我们希望，呃，让那些

会成为我们社会和经济的重要贡献者的人进来。呃，你知道，你希望谁加入这个团队？而且，而且这并不是说，比如依我看，实际上我会说，可能大多数非法移民其实都是、都是、其实都是勤劳的好人，这是我的看法。嗯，但有些人不是。呃，而且，而且你就是会遇到这种逆向选择过程，其中，嗯，你知道，如果、如果、如果某个人，呃，你知道，如果某个人，比如，呃，你知道，嗯，以偷窃或抢劫为业，嗯，我、我不明白他们为什么花了这么久才来到这里。嗯，因为我们这里是一个目标如此丰富的环境。嗯，我的意思是，你知道，为什么，那些以，你知道，做坏事为业的人，为什么没有更多人更早来到这里，因为

这，我的意思是，与世界其他地方相比，在洛杉矶或纽约，呃，你知道，入室抢劫简直是小菜一碟。而且，嗯，而且，而且在美国很多地方，如果、如果、如果你试图阻止抢劫你的人，你反而会被逮捕，所以没错。我的意思是，犯罪到底是怎么回事，而我们的警察非常优秀，但他们却不被允许履行职责。不过我必须告诉你，埃隆，我不愿这么说，因为说出来太让人沮丧了，我不愿这么说，我讨厌这样，但有很多人根本就不该在这里。我认为这个数字比你想象的要大得多。他们又在放人，他们在从监狱里放人，而如果你管理着这些人来自的某个国家，你就会把他们全都……以委内瑞拉为例

他们的犯罪率下降了72%。他们带走他们的毒贩，坦白说，他们带走他们的囚犯，他们清空监狱，他们带走，呃，他们的罪犯、他们的杀人犯、他们的强奸犯，然后他们、他们把这些人送进来。这就是、这就是C cter做过的。是的，好吧，他们当时的规模小得多，你知道，那是小得多的规模，但这次规模极其庞大，因为这是在全世界范围内进行的。但现在的情况是，全世界的犯罪率都下降了，而你怎么看我们掌握的这些数据，你知道，这些、这就是移民犯罪，这就是、就是将会发生的犯罪。而我今天在纽约看到了，有人被刀刺，他们，呃，强奸了一个男人的女朋友，而那个男人就站在那里看着，就在纽约的一个收容所里

而且，呃，开始拔刀，今天发生了糟糕的事情，但这种事每天都在发生。这些人很凶悍，这些人因为谋杀和各种事情被关在监狱里，而他们正在把这些人释放到我们的国家。他们还告诉这些人，如果你们回来，我们就杀了你们，我们会判你们死刑或者杀了你们，所以他们不想回去。但这些人很凶悍，这些、这些罪犯相比之下会让我们的罪犯看起来像好人，他们所做的事情非常可怕。而且，而且这是她负责的，因为你知道，现在她试图说自己与此毫无关系，而她太会撒谎了，因为她第一天就被称为边境就是，而且这登上了每一家报纸的头条。她是那个

边境就是，而她甚至从未去过那里。她去过一个地点，但那里与问题所在毫无关系。你知道，她进进出出，我猜是因为她承受了很大压力，但这与问题毫无关系。不过她是那个bordar，而你们不能允许他们靠虚假信息宣传蒙混过关。现在她试图说，呃，她没有，呃，她其实并未参与，而整件事都很可怕。她完全负责。即使没有他，她也本可以关闭边境，反正他根本不知道自己在做什么，所以他甚至不会知道发生了什么。你可以关闭边境，他甚至都不会察觉有什么不同。但，呃，事实是她是bordar，但你不必这么称呼她，事实是你可以

直接说她负责边境，而边境的情况是有史以来最糟糕的。这、这根本行不通。无论、无论这是因为、无论这是因为、无论这是意图问题还是能力问题，不管怎样，我们、我们、我们、我们都没有安全的边境，而且人们源源不断地越境，有时候看起来就像一个世界、像《僵尸世界大战》里的僵尸末日。你知道，有时你、你、你、你不得不琢磨，这到底是真的还是假的。所以我，你知道，因为你看到一些事情时会想，这是真的吗？我，所以我去了伊格尔帕斯的边境，亲自在得克萨斯州看了看，而我当时就想，好吧，这是真的。我就像在实时亲眼看着这一切。我其实发布了视频，就像直接直播一样。我只是、我只是有一天飞到那里，就是想看看，嘿，这、这、这是编造的还是真的

而我、我就这样看着人们源源不断地越过边境。嗯，而且我必须说，你知道，至少我看到的那些人看起来并不友善。嗯，你知道，所以人们可以看看我的视频，然后说，嘿，你知道，这些人看起来友善吗？我看起来不太友善。所以这些人，如果埃隆不得不走到街对面直视这些人的眼睛，他就不会还是原来那个人。这些人很凶悍，这些越境而来的人真的非常凶悍，而我了解凶悍的人，这些人是我们不希望进入我们国家的人。而且你知道，大篷车队正在进来，他们正在放，而、而这样做的是这些国家的首脑，如果是你，你也会这么做，我也会，每个人都说，哦，说这种话太可怕了。事实

是，这对他们来说很高明，因为他们正在带走所有那些，呃，坏人，真正的坏人。而我不愿这么说，人数比你以为的多得多，其原因是他们还在带走那些没有生产力的人。现在，这些人不是会杀掉你的人，我们已经有足够多那样的人了，但这些人没有生产力，他们、他们就是没有生产力。我的意思是，不管出于什么原因，他们不干活，或者不想工作，或者别的什么，而在许多情况下，这些国家正在通过大篷车队摆脱没有生产力的人。他们还全都在摆脱自己的杀人犯、毒贩以及那些真正残暴的人，而这些人正以前所未见的数量进入我们的国家。而我刚刚看到了一则广告

就在我上线之前，我正往这里走，然后看到卡玛拉的一则广告，说她将如何提供边境安全。过去3年半她去了哪里？3年半，是的，有2000万人，这太可怕了。是的，坦白说，我认为这是美国一个根本性的生死存亡问题。嗯，如果我们再经历4年的开放边境，而且再来4年情况会更糟，再来4年将比过去，呃，你知道，3年半更糟。呃，我不确定我们还能不能算一个国家。埃隆，如果他们上台，你就没有国家了。你会迎来来自世界各地的5000万至6000万人，不仅是南美洲。你知道，我们想到南美洲，就会想到

洪都……和萨尔瓦多、危地马拉及墨西哥，你知道，这4个，但并不是这样，而是所有地方，他们从所有地方进来，而我不得不待在墨西……。这是一个、这是一个极其重要的观点，比如人们会说，好吧，基本上当我去那里时，我就在想，人们都来自哪里？就像、就像几乎没有人来自墨西哥。那里只是、只是、只是边境，只是与墨西哥接壤的边境，但进来的人，他们、他们、他们来自地球，来自地球其他地方。而且，而且，而且美国只占，你知道，地球人口的大约4、4或5%。地球其他地方只要有几个……过来，就足以压垮这里的一切。我们已经不堪重负了，埃隆，这，我们已经不堪重负了。你得看看今晚有关纽约、纽约和

我爱那个地方，而他们对那里所做的事太可怕了，他们对那里所做的事，而所有法院所做的就是试图把注意力集中在特朗普身上，好吧，让我们把注意力集中在特朗普身上，他什么错事都没做。我抱怨一场被操纵的选举，埃隆，发生的事情真是难、难、难以置信。有人从非洲，呃，刚果来，而且他们是杀人犯，他们把他们扔下，他们、他们把他们放出来，把他们从监狱里带出来，维持监狱是非常昂贵的，你知道，尽管他们并没有做太多维护工作，我可以告诉你，但他们把他们从拘留所、监狱里带出来，他们把他们带出来，然后把他们带到美国，把他们放在美国，并说永远别回来，否则你们会被处决，而他们不想回去，但他们不会回去，但是

但他们从从非洲来，他们从亚洲来，他们从中东来，他们从南美洲来，他们从各个地方来，而且其中很多真的是一些人，这就是一个，这就是，这就是一个遍及地球各处的，呃，事情，而美国就是，就是不可能吸收，你知道，来自地球各处的所有人，或者或者，你知道，哪怕是地球其余人口的百分之几，这就是不可能，所以我们将会，这只是把这件事说完，我们将进行这个国家历史上规模最大的驱逐行动，而且我们别无选择，否则我们将会有一个国家，他们，他们对我们的国家所做的，想想看，在委内瑞拉以及其他一些国家，犯罪率

下降了50 60 70 80%，你也会这样，你会，你会，我告诉你，委内瑞拉还没有把他们全部清除掉，他们已经清除了大约70%的真正的坏人，他们监狱里大约50%的，呃，被放进了美国，其他国家也是一样，有些是30%，有些是50%，它们各不相同，但归根结底，它们都会达到100%，你为什么不把100%的，而且他们现在就在这样做，而这个三流的冒牌候选人，别忘了，我击败了，我击败了拜登，呃，他在辩论中的表现惨不忍睹，而且你知道，有些人说，哦，天哪，太遗憾了，太遗憾了，他表现得那么糟，或者我在辩论中表现得很好，你知道，第1天晚上他们说，哇，CNN有个人说，那是我

见过的最出色的辩论表现，然后2天后他们不谈这个了，他们只是说他很糟糕，但没关系，他们就是这样对待我的，而我完全不介意，我能告诉你的是，我们不能有一个民主党人，我们不能让她来，她无能，她和拜登一样糟，只是面貌不同，自从这整个，呃，骗局开始以来，她还没有接受过采访，而且，而且随你怎么说，这是一场政变，这是一场针对美国总统的政变，他不想离开，而他们说我们可以用好说话的方式来做，也可以用强硬的方式来做，是的，我，他们就是把他带到棚屋后面，基本上枪毙了他，哦，他们对这个人做的事，而且我并不喜欢他，他是个糟糕的总统，是历史上最糟糕的总统，而他之所以

如此糟糕，首先，以色列的袭击绝不会发生，俄罗斯绝不会袭击乌克兰，而且我们不会有通货膨胀，也不会有阿富汗那场乱局，如果你想想的话，嗯，而且我们本来也不会有阿富汗，但我们想想，我们，你把其中几件事拿掉，我们就会有一个不同的世界，我们也不会有通货膨胀，通货膨胀是由石油造成的，是的，不，不，我认为你在这里提出了一个非常好的观点，那就是，嗯，当其他国家可以，你知道，那些，那些，你知道，正在考虑入侵或做坏事的国家，呃，当它们考虑这件事时，它们会想，好吧，美国总统会怎么做，以及它们是否害怕美国总统，还是这个人是它们，它们不尊重或，而且不

害怕的人，而我认为它们，它们确实，它们确实，它们会，它们理应如此，我的意思是，你知道，看看那段刺杀画面，它们会想，好吧，你知道，特朗普总统就是，就像别来惹我，我的意思是，那就像，而我认为人们不会，而且很显然，他们完全没有被拜登吓住，而且他们肯定也不会被卡姆吓住，而你真的必须从全球安全的背景下考虑，嗯，那就是，那就是，如果，如果美国总统是某个，某个像是，你知道，邪恶独裁者都害怕的人，那会给世界安全带来巨大差异，所以我和普京关系很好，尽管有俄罗斯俄罗斯俄罗斯骗局，那持续了2年多，只是一个由

希拉里·克林顿和，呃，亚当·“狡猾”·希夫，一些就是坏人，你知道，坦率地说就是有病的人，我的意思是，希夫，希夫是个有病的人，他最后可能会成为参议员，真是难以相信，整件事都难以相信，但是，呃，你知道，他们也用那些东西把我们的国家置于危险之中，他们实际上会编造故事，而你必须花很长时间奋力摆脱它，但我非常了解普京，我和他相处得非常好，他尊重我，这就是其中一件事，而且他会，我们会经常谈到乌克兰，那是他的掌上明珠，但我说永远别这么做，永远别这么做，你知道，我还关停了北溪，那是那条大型石油管道，最大的，我认为是世界上最大的管道，通往各地

欧洲，我通过来了把它关停，然后他们说我，我，你知道，我当时，我爱俄罗斯，我是普京的朋友，而且我爱俄罗斯，而他实际上有一次对我说，他说，如果你是我的朋友，我都不愿看到你成为敌人，我关停了他的管道，最大的管道，他们正指望那个提供资金，而这个，这个可悲的总统上台后，他做的第1件事，他早期做的事情之一，就是关停了，他，他关停了keone XL管道，那是我们的管道，本来会雇用48,000人，管道工人，却把它关停了，那是，你知道，一项规模巨大的工作，奥巴马拒绝批准，我在第1周就批准了，因为那意味着就业，而且它输送石油，顺便说一句，还是以一种对环境友好得多的方式，它在地下，它不是一条

着火的卡车，或者着火的火车，但想想看，他关闭了那个，呃，XL管道，Keystone XL管道，他把它关闭了，却批准了俄罗斯管道，是的，这毫无道理，这就像是前后不一致，嗯，当然，但我的意思是，我认为只是值得向听众强调，你知道，美国总统是否具有威慑力这件事极其重要，嗯，以及这对全球安全有多么重要，嗯，因为外面有一些真正强硬的人物，如果他们不认为美国总统强硬，他们就会为所欲为，我认识他们每一个人，而这会让，这会让整个世界陷入危险，埃尔，我认识他们每一个人，而且我知道

他们，嗯，我了解普京，我了解她总统，我了解朝鲜的金正恩，我了解他们每一个人，让我告诉你，人们会说，哦，这太糟糕了，他说，我不是在说任何好话或坏话，他们正处于自己的巅峰状态，他们强硬，他们聪明，他们凶狠，而且他们会保护自己的国家，不管他们爱不爱自己的国家，他们大概是爱的，只不过是另一种形式的爱，但他们会保护自己的国家，但这些人都很强硬，正处于自己的巅峰状态，而当他们看到一个卡拉，或者当他们看到，呃，拜登，瞌睡乔时，他们甚至无法相信，他们无法相信这种事竟然发生了，你现在看到的所有事情，所有那些恐怖，你看看以色列，他们全都在等待伊朗发动袭击，伊朗不会

发动袭击，相信我，你知道，我在那里时，而且我是带着尊重这么说的，因为我认为我们本来会和伊朗相处得很好，我不想对伊朗做任何坏事，但他们知道不能胡来，伊朗当时是，因为我告诉中国，如果你从伊朗购买石油，关键全在石油上，钱就是从那里来的，但如果你从伊朗购买石油，你就不能同美国做任何生意，而我是认真的，他们说那我们算了，他们没有购买石油，其他国家也是一样，你想买，你就不能同美国做生意，而他们，他们当时已经到了这样一个地步，他们没有钱给哈马斯，他们没有钱给真主党，他们没有钱给任何这些恐怖工具，这令人惊叹，事实上，在我

离任的时候有一些文章，这其实令人难以置信，尤其是当你看看我们国家发生了什么，我们国家现在糟透了，它变成了一个如此不同的地方，我们当时备受尊重，想想看，4年前我们是如此受尊重，以至于当我说不要购买石油时，他们就没有购买石油，但他们没有钱，以色列绝不会遭到袭击，可能性为零，而且我再次对弗拉基米尔·普京说，我说别这么做，你不能这么做，弗拉基米尔，你这么做，那将会是糟糕的一天，你不能这么做，而且我告诉了他一些我会做的事情，他说不可能，而我说就是可能，而你知道，这是我们最后一次进行那场谈话，他不会，他绝不会那么做，我和他相处得很好，我希望再次和他们相处得很好，你知道，相处

融洽是好事，不是坏事，我和正恩相处得很好，当我在上任前不久与奥巴马总统会面时，你知道，这算是一种惯例，我和他坐下来交谈，原本应该只谈很短一段时间，结果变成了很长一段时间，我说最大的问题是什么，他说朝鲜，我很快就解决了那个问题，一开始闹得很凶，有火箭人，还有你知道的所有那些不同的事情，但突然间我把那些，那些顺便说一句是一些史诗级推文，不，它们全都是史诗级的，他说，他说他的办公桌上有一个红色按钮，我说我的办公桌上也有一个红色按钮，但我的红色按钮大得多，而且我的红色按钮管用，然后我叫他

小火箭人，如果小火箭人，总之，事情的关键是，我突然接到了他的电话，他们说他们想会面，他们想见我，而我们见面了，是的，如你所记得的，我们在新加坡见了面，我们还在越南见了面，而且，呃，我和他们相处得非常好，我们没有任何危险，但奥巴马总统，奥巴马总统认为我们最终会和他开战，打一场核战争，而且让我告诉你，他也有很多核武器，他有大量核武器，他能造成巨大的破坏，所以是的，我的意思是，这是因为，你知道，我的意思是，像金，金，你知道，金恩这样的人，他们回应的是实力，而不是软弱，嗯，他，呃，他和我相处得，他和我关系很好，记住，我记得我见了他，而且，而且我们走上了他的土地，此前从来没有人走上过

他的土地，我走了上去，我不会说，让我们再次提起特勤局吧，我不会说我那么做时他们很兴奋，我走上了他的土地，而且，呃，那是一段令人惊叹的时期，但我们面对他时没有危险，这是因为我，你知道，我总是说，我们外部有敌人，内部也有敌人，我们政府里有一些非常坏的人，还有那些正在，而且控制着人民的人，我的意思是，我可以点名，但我，我不想，我真的不想给他们这种关注，但我们有一些非常坏的人，而我说他们比俄罗斯和中国更危险，如果，如果你有一位聪明的总统，一位明白情况的总统，我们不会面临来自那些国家的危险，因为他们需要我们，他们需要我们的帮助，我的意思是，我们迫使奥巴马

如果你想一想，平心而论，奥巴马、拜登以及某种程度上的布什迫使俄罗斯和中国走到了一起，如果你是学历史的，你学到的第1件事就是不能让俄罗斯和中国结盟，但随后他们还得到了，如果你看看，伊朗，而且他们有朝鲜，那是，你知道，他们过去抓住了“邪恶通道”，你过去有“邪恶通道”，好吧，我们这里有1个现代版的“邪恶通道”，这些都是强大的国家，核力量非常强，而那是最大的威胁。你知道，最大的威胁不是全球变暖，不是海洋会在未来400年里上升one one8英寸。大的，而且你会拥有更多、你会拥有更多海滨房产，对吧？最大的威胁不是那个，最大的威胁是核变暖。

因为我们现在有5个拥有重大核力量的国家，而我们必须不允许任何事情因拜登这样的蠢人而发生。你知道，拜登，呃，对俄罗斯做了些事情，呃，他根本不可能进去，而当我离任时，然后、然后在我离任后，他们开始在他们、在与乌克兰的边境上集结庞大的军队，对吧？我看着那件事，我以为他那么做是因为普京是个出色的谈判者，我以为他那么做是为了谈判，但随后拜登开始说一些非常愚蠢的话，比如他说，呃，它现在可以成为1个北约国家。把俄罗斯，现在，就、就北约存在以来那么久，一直说我们永远不会同意那件事，而我们径直站到前面说了那件事，而且我们通过这位

低智商的总统做了一些事，也说了一些话，智商非常低。顺便说一句，他30年前智商就很低，但现在他可能甚至根本没有智商了。没有，没有任何棋盘上的东西能持续这么久。他说了一些如此愚蠢的话，以至于那场、那场战争，如果我在那里，那场战争发生的概率是零、零，零概率。他说的每件事都是反的，每件事都是反的，而这太令人悲伤了，因为在乌克兰被杀的人比你读到的要多得多。你没有读到那里有多么血腥，以及多么 DES。嘿，你看，光是两支军队就损失了50万人，而且，呃，而且你知道，乌克兰正处境艰难。乌克兰，我不知道你最近是否看过那篇文章，而那是真的，你听不到真实的故事，但如果你想一想，呃

俄罗斯已经走了，你知道，俄罗斯和我们一起击败了德国，而且他们击败了拿破仑。你知道，他们已经存在很长时间了，他们是一支庞大的战斗力量，而这非常不公平，而且乌克兰现在没有足够的男人，他们现在正让年轻男人和非常年老的男人去战斗，而这、这，我们处在1个非常糟糕的位置。我不会完全归咎于谁，但我可以告诉你，我本可以阻止那件事，而且1位聪明的总统本可以阻止那件事，它不会发生。但我们有1个、我们有1个人实际上让它、让它更加普遍了。那、那、那太糟糕了，他使用的那些词，那些从1张愚蠢的脸上发出的愚蠢威胁，那、那是他在使用的。我说，这家伙会给我们引发1场战争，他会给我们引发，而且让我告诉你，这可能导致世界大战

II，那可能导致第二次世界大战，中东可能导致，我们有许多地方现在完全可能无缘无故地以1场第二次世界大战告终。我认为你说得对。我认为、我认为人们低估、低估了第三次世界大战的风险，而这就是、就是，你知道，当、当你审视全球热核战争的风险时，人类就完了，而且你知道，那是、那是人们所拥有的某种东西。我认为冷战结束后，人们变得自满了，但他们实际上忘记了，目前有很多核导弹，那、那、那是、那、那为美国和其他国家设定了瞄准参数，而我们将要做的事情之一，就是在我们上方建造1个铁穹

我们，你知道，以色列有，我们将拥有世界上最好的铁穹，我们需要它，而且我们将在美国完全制造它，但我们将会拥有，我们将会拥有保护，因为只需要一个疯子就能，你知道，挑起什么事，我们将会有保护，而且我们将会有，为什么我们不该拥有铁穹，以色列有一个，其他一些地方也有一个，坦率地说，甚至没人知道，但呃，以色列有，我们将会拥有一个铁穹，但你知道，尽管说了这一切，对我来说那非常重要，是最重要的，但尽管说了这一切，选举就要来了，人们想听的是经济，以及他们买不起食品杂货这一事实，因为他们没有足够的钱购买食品杂货

通货膨胀害惨了他们，食品价格上涨了50%、60%，在某些情况下甚至是100%，而这个、这个愚蠢的政府任由此事发生，这是1种耻辱，而且在我看来，那是人们最关心的事情。他们非常关心边境，而我们非常详细地讨论了边境。能有这样1个平台让我可以详细讨论某件事，这很好。顺便问一下，你觉得拜登能做这次采访吗？你觉得 K 能做这次采访吗？他们会选择放弃，你，他们，所以他们不需要埃隆，他们不需要埃隆大声喊出问题。这、这相当可悲，当你想到某个以此为生的人无法回答1个问题，或者害怕接受采访，而在她的情况下，还是1次非常友好的采访。她已经有了

全是友好的采访者，这挺，但现在的大事是经济，埃隆，而且尽管我是说，我认为核问题是唯一最重要的事情，但很多人不这么认为，很多人不明白这一点，但不一定非得，如果我明白这一点，那就是你所需要的一切，因为如果我是总统，你不会遇到那种问题，但真正让他们愤怒的事情，是卡玛拉和拜登任由经济发生的一切，这是一场灾难，还有通货膨胀，通货膨胀，不管你赚多少钱，通货膨胀都在把你生吞活剥，如果你是工人，或者如果你是一个呃只是一个中等收入者，你负担不起，你知道，4年前、5年前，人们还在存很多钱，今天他们正在动用

他们所有的钱，还借钱，仅仅为了生活，这正在发生的事情太可怕了，我们会结束它，Qui，是的，很多人就是不、不明白通货膨胀来自哪里，嗯，通货膨胀来自政府过度支出，因为由政府开出的支票永远不会跳票，所以如果、如果如果政府呃花的钱远远超过它的收入，那就会增加货币供应量，而如果货币供应量增长得比商品和服务的增长速度更快，那就是通货膨胀，嗯，所以，所以我们确实需要，呃，我们需要减少政府支出，嗯，而且我们需要重新审视，我认为我们，我认为我们需要一个类似政府效率委员会的机构，来说，比如，嘿，我们把钱花在哪里是合理的，哪里不合理，嗯，而且

而且我们需要量入为出，我们、我们目前正在增加，我想，大约每100天就给赤字增加1万亿美元，没错，嗯，而且你知道，国债的利息支出现在已经超过国防预算，大约是1万亿美元，这是利息，而且它还在、还在增长，我重建了我们的军队，很大程度上重建了我们的军队，在这方面做得非常出色，这非常重要，你知道，我们当时有喷气式飞机，有战斗机，还有呃轰炸机，它们已经有70年历史了，而我们在这方面做得非常出色，然后，顺便说一句，然后我们把其中的850亿美元送回给了阿富汗，如果你能相信的话，我们给了他们850亿美元，你知道，他们是世界上最大的军事装备销售方之一

他们正在出售我们给他们的东西，那是我国历史上最令人难堪的日子之一，但呃，如果你想想，来，让我们回到呃经济，我们必须把能源价格降下来，能源引发了这一切，现在汽油的价格，你的汽车不太需要汽油，所以你知道，你有一个很好的，而且你确实制造了很棒的产品，我必须这么说，我必须对你坦诚，这并不意味着每个人都应该拥有一辆电动汽车，但这些都是小细节，但你的、你的产品令人难以置信，但、但汽油，埃隆，是、是、是能源成本，不只是汽油，还有给房屋供暖和制冷的成本，那必须降下来，它、它已经上涨了100%、150和200%，而那必须降下来，当它降下来时，而且

我们要钻，宝贝，钻，你知道，他们停止了钻探，然后他们又回去钻探，因为他们回、回到了特朗普的政策，但如果他们赢了，在他们上任后的第二天，我们将，这个国家将会倒闭，因为他们将转向一种不可持续的能源政策，风能和不同的东西，你将什么都没有，而、而且我知道你非常热衷于AI，而且我必须说，AI，这令我震惊，但AI需要的能源是这个国家目前为一切所生产能源的2倍，所以你将不得不建设，我们将不得不建设大量能源，如果我们的国家要在这方面与中国竞争，因为那是我们在AI方面的主要竞争对手，你将需要大

量电力，你将需要巨量的电力，几乎是我们现在为整个国家生产的电力的2倍，如果你能相信的话，当然，嗯，好吧，只是回到这个，比如这个、这个基本问题，人们试图让它听起来很复杂，但其实并不复杂，通货膨胀是由政府过度支出造成的，嗯，你、你是否同意，我们需要审视政府支出，而且、而且、而且、而且或许设立一个政府效率委员会，呃，它只是审视，尝试让支出变得合理，让国家量入为出，就像、就像个人那样，浪费令人难以置信，而且没有人议价，呃，以前有很多人制造喷气式飞机，最后只剩下2家公司

而且它们可能会在某个时候尝试合并，你、你，我是说，我、我……通过它，就像空军……比如就空军一号这样一件事，他们让我签署的最早文件之一，一位将军走过来说，先生，请您签署这份文件好吗，这是什么，空军一号，那是和波音签的，基本上是2架飞机，2747s，而价格是5美元。

两架飞机要70亿美元，现在，现在它们高度精密，甚至比你的飞机还漂亮，好吧，但要精密得多，它们非常……我不会说上面有什么，但上面反正有很多东西，不过是5. 7，听着，那是个疯狂的数字，一个疯狂的数字，但我说我不会付5。

7，我不会这么做。我说，这交易是谁做的？奥巴马和他的人。我说，那我就知道这交易不好，我不会这么做。在大约4周的时间里，就因为我说我不会这么做，我让价格降低了1美元。

60亿买完全相同的飞机，区别只是我们的喷漆更漂亮，如果你想知道真相的话，但就是完全相同的飞机。我拿到了，我省下了1个，然后我对波音说，天啊，如果你们能把价格降低这么多，那你们一定赚了很多钱。但现在我确实听说，他们正回头找，呃，拜登政府，想要大额成本超支补偿，你知道，因为他们看到那里有这些愚蠢的冤大头，最终会拿回一部分钱，但我把它削减了1美元。

60亿多阿尔，买完全相同的计划，而且，而且现在你可以把这个乘以其他数千个项目，乘出来的数字是天文数字。我同意你的看法。嗯，我的意思是，如果，所以，所以，我的意思是，我的意思是，我认为成立一个政府效率委员会会很棒，由它审视这些事情，并且，并且就是确保纳税人的钱，纳税人辛苦赚来的钱，以良好的方式花出去。嗯，而且，而且，而且如果成立这样一个委员会，我，我会很乐意提供帮助。嗯，你，你是最厉害的削减者。我的意思是，我看看你做的事，你走进去，直接说你们想辞职，他们就罢工，他们，我不会提那家公司的名字，但他们罢工，而你说没关系，你们全都走人，你们全都走人。所以每一个

你们中的人都走人，而你是最厉害的，你会非常擅长。哦，你会喜欢这件事的。但你知道，如果你看看 ARG，会很高兴。顺便说一句，祝贺你，我刚刚看了一下正在收听你和我聊天的人数，我们会引用一场聊天，不过，呃，祝贺你，这非常好。我的意思是，这很棒，它，而且，而且你是个有趣的人物。你知道，呃，一个叫阿根廷的地方的新领导人，而他当时，他是个大，你知道，他很棒，而且他是 MAGGA 的忠实支持者，你知道，他以 MAGGA 为竞选主张，而且还把它发挥到了极致。他以 MAGGA 为竞选主张，而我听说他真的做得非常出色。它叫作“让阿根廷再次伟大”。效果非常完美。他上任时买了很多帽子，他带来了，但他，他正在做一项大工作，他确实进行了削减，而我听说

他们开始做得相当不错，通胀正在下降。你知道，他们当时大概有2,000%，他们的通胀就像，就像不是正常的通胀，他们面对的是货真价实的那种。但我们很快也会出现那种情况。我们，我们有，我认为我们经历了100年来最严重的通胀。他们说是48年来，我不相信。我认为我们经历的是最严重的。他们没有把许多本应包含在内的项目包括进去，你知道。是的，嗯，这，这，这，这就是政府开支过度造成的，而且不只是没有有效地花纳税人的钱，还有，你知道，就只是部门，比如有这么多部门，你甚至都说不全，嗯。而马莱正在做的事，嗯，是，你知道，他，他正在削减政府开支，他正在简化事务，他，呃，正在让你

制定合理的法规，而我，而且，而且，而且我们阿根廷一夜之间正经历着，呃，繁荣程度的巨大改善。但，但这对美国来说也是一个教训，那就是，嗯，阿根廷过去曾是世界上最繁荣的国家之一，嗯，你知道，在，我想是在30年代、40年代，而且，而且由于糟糕的政府政策，它毁掉了这个国家。而且，而且如果以委内瑞拉为例，委内瑞拉本应该极其繁荣，他们，他们拥有，你知道，数量惊人的，呃，各种资源储备，石油，所有东西，而且，呃，本应繁荣。但如果政府错了，它，它就会让人民陷入贫困。所以我认为，我们美国人不应该自满，不应该以为，并把繁荣视为理所当然，因为

如果，如果采用那种政府政策，我们可以把国家搞垮，而那，那，那正是人们应该牢记的事情。不要把繁荣视为理所当然。好，好，想想教育。因此，在涵盖前40名的每份榜单中，我们都排在末尾，我们排第40、第38，呃，挪威，呃，瑞士、瑞典，不同国家排名很好。事实上，中国相当接近前列，他们排在前6或7，但我们排在末尾，几乎就是末尾，38、39、940，换句话说，糟透了。然而，我们在每名学生身上的花费比世界上任何其他国家都多。所以我们花得更多，而我要做的事，是最初采取的行动之一，而这正是我需要一个埃隆·马斯克的地方，我需要一个拥有很大力量、勇气和智慧的人。我想关闭

教育部，把教育交还给各州，像，像，像爱荷华州这样的州，像爱达荷州这样的州。你知道，并不是每个州都会做得很出色，因为那些现在基本上就做得不好的州，你看看加利福尼亚州州长加文·纽森，他，呃，他很糟糕，他做得非常糟糕，所以他在教育方面不会做得很出色。但在，在这50个州中，我敢打赌有35个会做得非常出色，其中15个，或者，你知道，20个，会和挪威一样好。你知道，挪威被认为很出色，呃，你可以说出它们的名字。我的意思是，就是，它们太好了，其中一些国家太好了。但是，如果，如果你到一些治理得非常好的州去，你知道，我们有些州不知道债务是什么，我们有些州税率低、没有债务，每个人都

在工作，你知道，它们确实治理得很好，而且或许它们在地理位置方面，在，你知道，土地或，阳光、阳光、水以及所有方面拥有某些优势。你知道，有些人有很多优势，但如果你把教育交还给这50个，你会有一些做得不好，但你会有，但它们实际上会被迫做得更好，因为那会是相当糟糕的局面。但是，但是如果你想想，你会看到其中一些州，我敢打赌，你会有30、35个州，情况会好得多。而且你知道吗，它的成本会低于华盛顿目前成本的一半，而这些人并不关心这些，你知道，遥远州里的学生，而这会是，这会是难以置信的。是的，我认为你提出了一个很好的观点，

那就是，嗯，如果各州必须，必须，如果，如果每一个，如果每个州必须与其他州竞争，那么，那么人们自然会，呃，搬到，到情况更好的州。好，比如加利福尼亚州，你知道，正如我们说过的，它，它是一个治理糟糕的州。我可以逐个说，我在那些州有很多朋友，即使他们是民主党人，我不愿提及某些州，但伊利诺伊州治理得很糟，在普利兹克手下，他是个，他是个真正的失败者。但，但是，你知道，其中一些地方就是治理得很糟。但你知道，这几乎会迫使他们更好地治理，而且他们一开始不会做得好，但，但是能，你不会比现在做得更差。而且我要说，你会把成本削减50%或60%，而且你会有一个小型监督机构，你知道，

你想确保他们在教英语，举个例子，你知道，给我们一点英语，对吧，当然，是的。不，但我的意思是，我的意思是，我的意思是，其中一些州长，像是，实在，实在做得太差了。我的意思是，他们让如此多的人搬离他们的州，他们应该，他们应该获得你——年度全体推销员奖，因为他们正在赶走如此多的 uel，这实际上令人惊讶。人们，人们搬走，作为一名商业商人，你是否惊讶他们竟然还能生存，比如伊利诺伊州？如此多的人正在离开，而你会想，他们怎么生存？我的意思是，他们怎么生存？呃，我看到你离开了加利福尼亚州，搬到了得克萨斯州。得克萨斯州做得很出色，呃，但你知道，我的意思是，我只是想知道，当大企业、一家大型石油公司

如你所知，刚刚离开了加利福尼亚州，他们搬到了得克萨斯州。当这些大州失去这么多企业，而它们的税已经非常高时，它们要怎么生存？你知道，那里的税属于最高之列，你你几乎会纳闷，它们怎么、它们怎么继续下去。而且在很多情况下，州长干得不好，那些地方犯罪猖獗。你会纳闷，它们怎么还能就这样继续下去。这、这不是、这不是一个好局面。我的意思是，我认为唯一能迫使其中一些州改变的事情，就是它们面临破产风险，而且不会得到联邦政府的纾困，对吧？嗯，会得到改变。你记得加利福尼亚州的那个地区吗？那里发生过那件事，我猜有人手脚不干净，他们

偷了很多钱，呃，他们进入了某种“第……章”程序，有一段时间情况非常糟糕，但现在那里可能是整个加利福尼亚州最受欢迎的地方。所以，所以你知道，到了某个时候，可能不得不发生类似的事情。但问题是，呃，当你有像普利兹克这样无能的人时，你不能惩罚那些借钱给州政府的人。你看，他的家族不想让他进入家族企业，呃，然后他最终当上了伊利诺伊州州长。所以你知道，他会怎么样？他会成为一位出色的州长吗？呃，你知道，有些人，我可以把他们每个人都点出来。我了解了这里的每一个人，其中一些非常优秀，而另一些简直糟透了。嗯，我认为，我的意思是，这里的逻辑点，你知道，就像你所说的

就像，你知道，很多人担心经济，很多人担心通胀，而通胀实际上是对那些、那些、那些存钱的人的一种税，而且对于那些日复一日工作的人来说，它、它、它就是、它就是一种征税形式。嗯，呃，而且如果、如果我们能解决政府支出问题，就会解决通胀问题，这意味着人们会有更好的生活水平，而那、那是一件非常重大的事。嗯，受伤害最严重的，是那些按照别人教导他们的方式去做的人，贯穿，你知道，他们较年轻的时期和他们、他们的年轻生活以及他们的一生，那些存钱的人，然后他们的钱没有获得任何利息，而通胀 d enoyed 了他们，坦率地说

如果他们根本不做那样的事，他们的处境几乎反而会更好。我的意思是，那些人遭到了彻底重创，而我们要让那些人恢复过来，并帮助那些人。我们必须把价格降下来。你知道，当我看到培根的价格是几年前的5倍、4倍或5倍时，当、当你看看一些食品和、和杂货时，人们走进去，他们简直无法相信。他们过去可以买满满一购物车，而今天，你知道，很多人就是没有钱。他们走进去，却什么也买不了。他们、他们看着，是的，这就是价格冲击，他们称之为价格冲击，对吧？我、我认为这其实就归结为，就像我说的，我认为就是归结为、为、为实际上，我想，是2件事，确实是2件事，也就是，如果、如果你

解决政府过度支出，你就解决了通货膨胀，这会改善普通人的生活优势，然后，然后如果，如果你，呃，放松监管，比如制定合理的法规，因为很多法规都毫无道理，而且无缘无故地让成本变得极其高昂，嗯，而但是除非你进行有效的放松监管，像里根在 80 年代的放松监管方面做得非常出色，但已经 40 年了，我们还没有任何人真正做到，我是说，在你的政府任期内，我们取得了一些进展，但我认为，呃，有机会通过合理的监管取得，我认为，彻底的进展，嗯，而且，而且，而且如果做到了这两件事，是的，那就是大事，我们创下了纪录，我们创下了一个，我们在放松监管以及对所有这些……的，呃，限制方面做得更多

不同企业，比任何其他总统都多，我 c 记得我有一条规则，每增加 1 项，就必须取消 10 或 12 项，而我们，我们对所有这些进行了彻底削减，其中很多正被这届政府恢复，而我们彻底削减了那些没有必要的东西，但我们当时，我们当时一切都准备好了，你知道，我们拥有有史以来最好的经济，也许是全世界最好的，然后发生的是 Co 来了，我们不得不专注于它，没人知道它是什么，而我总是说，我在经济方面得分很高，在军事方面得分很高，我们消灭了 ISIS，我们做了如此多不同的事情，我们进行了重建，但你知道，对于我们在应对 Co 方面所做的事情，我从未获得我们真正应得的认可，我们从未获得认可，但是，呃，我们当时，如果那件事没有发生，那份来自

中国，从武汉，呃，来自武汉，武汉 La 实验室，而我一直这么说，结果证明是对的，但如果那件事没有发生，如果那件事没有发生，我们已经准备开始削减，呃，债务，我们还要进一步减税，我实施了规模最大的减税，而我们还要进一步为中等收入人群减税，不只是企业，但我们为企业减税了，因为它们才是，那就是为什么我们的就业数字那么好，但我们已经准备好真正开始削减债务，而且你知道，我们坐拥全世界最大的一堆液态黄金，比沙特阿拉伯更多，比俄罗斯更多，而我们本来要钻探，我们本来要赚很多钱，我们本来要向欧洲供应石油，我阻止了俄罗斯的管道

而我们本来要向他们供应石油和天然气，我们本来要，我们本来会赚一大笔钱，然后，呃，新冠疫情来了，我们不得不，我们真的不得不转移方向，然后发生的是，当他们上台时，你知道，我们，我们让很多企业存活了下来，如果我没有做我们所做的事情，我们本来会经历一场 1929 年式的大萧条，但问题是，拜登上台后，他拿到了数万亿美元，然后就开始愚蠢地花掉它，当时已经不再需要了，你知道，我们已经度过了那段糟糕时期，当时所有人都在死去并感到，你知道，那只是，那只是一段不好的时期，有意思的是，呃，你知道，在他的政府任期内，死于 Co 的人比在我的政府任期内多得多，而我们确实承受了它最猛烈的冲击，但人们没有意识到

在他的政府任期内死去的人比我们任期内更多，但这让我们偏离了我想做的事情，不过我们拥有最伟大的，你知道，将近 3 年里，我们的情况都很棒，而你比任何人都更清楚这一点，你的很多朋友都对我说，我们做生意最好的那些年就是特朗普执政的那些年，而且还说，呃，非裔美国人，西班牙裔美国人，情况好得令人难以置信，他们正处于最好的时期，亚裔美国人、女性、男性、没有文凭的年轻人、从最好的大学毕业的年轻人，从，从 MIT、沃顿商学院、所有很棒的大学，哈佛，他们的情况都更好，没有文凭的人情况也更好，每个人都很高兴，然后 Co 来了，我们遇到了，我们遇到了这个问题

问题是他们花费了数万亿又数万亿美元，他们浪费了这些钱，他们本不该拿任何钱，而我们现在就不会遭遇正在摧毁我们国家的通货膨胀，是的，是的，是的，完全正确，我是说，我或许应该谈谈，比如，你知道，我对于，你知道，气候变化以及石油和天然气的看法，嗯，因为，呃，我认为这可能与大多数人的设想不同，嗯，因为我，我的看法实际上相当，我认为在这方面相当温和，也就是说，我，我认为我们不应该妖魔化石油和天然气行业，也不应该妖魔化那些在这些行业里非常努力工作、提供必要能源来支撑经济的人，而如果我们现在停止使用石油和天然气，呃，我们所有人都会挨饿，经济

也会崩溃，呃，所以，你知道，我认为以某种方式妖魔化石油和天然气行业是不对的，嗯，而且，而且我，而且我，你知道，而世界，世界对石油和天然气有一定的需求，如果由美国来供应，可能比由其他一些国家供应更好，嗯，而且，而且这会，这会有助于美国的繁荣，嗯，与此同时，显然我的看法是，就像，我们确实希望随着时间推移转向，嗯，可持续能源经济，因为最终你确实会耗尽，我是说，你会耗尽石油和天然气，它们不会永远存在，它们不是无限的，嗯，而且确实存在，确实存在一些风险，我认为这个风险不像，像，呃，你知道，很多人所说的全球变暖风险那么高，但我认为，如果，如果你，如果你只是一直

让大气中的百万分之 post 增加，呃，持续足够长的时间，最终实际上连呼吸都会变得不舒服，人们没有意识到这一点，如果，如果，如果你达到，如果你超过百万分之 1000 的 CO2，呃，你就会开始头痛和 noria，嗯，而我们，我们现在处于大约 400 的范围，我认为我们每年大约增加百万分之 2，所以，我是说，这仍然给了我们，所以它的意思是，就像，我们仍然有相当多的时间，嗯，但，但是，所以并不是说，我们不需要匆忙，而且，而且我们不需要，比如，你知道，阻止农民耕作，或者，你知道，呃，阻止人们拥有股份，或者诸如此类的基本事情，比如，比如，别去管农民，我同意，那有多疯狂，你那里有农民

不再被允许耕作，而且必须处理掉他们的牛，整个，整个世界都有点疯狂，但它在很大程度上是跟着我们走的，不过我确实要说，我听说，就化石燃料而言，因为即便是，呃，制造你的电动汽车以及产生电动汽车所需的电力，你知道，化石燃料才是在发电厂真正产生那些电力的东西，所以，你知道，在当下你可以说是无法摆脱它，我是说，有一天你或许能够做到，但我确实听说我们还剩 100 到 500 年，你知道，其中很多甚至还没有被发现，是的，但有巨大的，比如 anoir，我让阿拉斯加的 anoir 获得了批准，罗纳德·里根做不到，没人能做到，每个人都尝试过，没人能做到，我让它获得了批准

拜登做的第一件事就是 unimo 它，要摆脱它，他，呃，终止了它，他的，呃，他的部长进去终止了它，这真是，真是耻辱，那是 andw，那比，或者他们，他们认为它可能比沙特阿拉伯还大，阿拉斯加的这个地方可能比沙特阿拉伯还大，但他们进去终止了它，而我会很快让它重新启动，因为它不仅对阿拉斯加意义重大，我是说，你谈到美国的经济发展，我是说，那，那个据说比沙特阿拉伯还大，或者规模相同，而且纯净，是真正的好东西，而你知道，他们终止了，所以我认为我们还剩，你知道，也许数百年，没人真正知道，但在那段时间里会出现的东西将会非常好，是的，嗯，我是说，我的，我的估计会

是，你知道，比那稍微激进一点，但它，它不是那种，比如我们所有人都会在 5 年内死去之类的说法，那显然是胡扯，嗯，但我是说，我的看法是，比如，如果你只是看每年增加的那种百万分之 POS，你知道，每年 CO2 会增加大约百万分之 2 或 3，呃，我是说，我，我认为其中一些，如果它加速的话就会有问题，如果你开始从 203 上升到比如 5，那么可能会出现一些情况，呃，使 CO2 出现阶跃式增长，嗯，而且，而且我，我认为你，我们不，我们不想太接近百万分之 1000，呃，PPM，因为比如，那，那实际上会让，让，让，让呼吸变得不舒服，比如只是在，在 CO2 为 th000 PPM 的环境中存在就会不舒服，那，那是

比如那被认为是一种工业危害，对吧，只是，所以，你知道，那其实会让你开始头痛之类的，所以即使没有全球变暖，那也不舒服，所以你不会想太接近那个程度，但我的意思是，我认为我们已经，我认为我们想要逐步转向，比如，如果从现在起50到100年后，我们，嗯，我们，我们不知道，基本实现了可持续发展，我认为那大概就可以了，嗯，所以这并不是说房子马上就着火了，但我认为这确实是我们需要朝之迈进的方向，而且，你知道，总体而言，可能更快转向比更慢转向更好，但但就像我说的，不要妖魔化石油和天然气行业，呃，而且而且

而且不要在短期内造成困难，我认为这是可以做到的，嗯，不用，你知道，人们仍然可以，你知道，拥有利益，他们仍然可以开烧汽油的汽车，而且他们，你知道，这这这没关系，就像，我不认为我们应该因此妖魔化人们，但我认为我们总体上应该倾向于可持续发展的方向，嗯，而且，呃，我我其实认为太阳能将成为未来地球能源生产的大部分，而且趋势肯定正朝那个方向发展，然后你获得太阳能，嗯，把它与与与电池结合起来，因为显然太阳在夜间不照耀，然后，呃，然后你用它给电动汽车充电，你就有了一个长期可持续的解决方案，而且你知道，那

就是Tesla正努力推动事情迈向的方向，我认为我们在这方面已经取得了很大进展进展，但当你看我们的汽车时，我们我们我们，比如，我们不认为环保，也就是关心环境，应该应该意味着你必须受罪，所以我们确保我们的汽车很漂亮，开起来很好，如果它们很快，它们就，你知道，很性感，我的意思是，它们，它们很酷，事实上，字面上说，我是指那个性感的玩笑，Model S、Model 3、Model X和“为什么”拼出了sexy，这可能是最昂贵的玩笑了，嗯，但我，你知道，我只是，我不知道，就像简单的幽默，你知道，所以，嗯，而且但但我，我我非常赞同，比如，让我们拥有一个鼓舞人心的未来，让我们，呃，让我们朝着，你知道，一个更美好的未来努力，而且而且而且我们可以

在不妖魔化人们的情况下这样做，对吧。我，我没意见。你知道，这很有意思，呃，你用了“全球变暖”这个词，而如今他们用“气候变化”这个词，因为你知道，有些地方温度上升，而你……所以“全球变暖”这个词让他们陷入了一点麻烦，因为并不是每个地方都在变暖，有些地方正朝相反方向发展。但是，呃，你知道，我有点在等着你推出装在汽车车顶和后备厢盖上的太阳能板，这似乎是你在某个时候会推出的东西，我相信你会是第一个。但看起来，在车顶，你知道，在平坦表面上、在某些表面上安装太阳能板可能会很好，至少在这个国家的某些地区

那些有……或者世界上有阳光的地方。但我会，我会认为，而且我完全不了解，因为那不是我的领域，但我会认为这会是，呃，一件有意思的事。但你知道，有一件事我不明白，那就是人们谈论全球变暖，或者谈论气候变化，却从不谈论核变暖，而对我来说，那是一个迫在眉睫的问题，因为正如我所说，你有5个国家，我们拥有重大的核……而且，而且你知道，可能还有其他一些国家正在达到那个水平，那非常危险。这就是你需要一位强有力的美国总统的地方，因为你就是，你不希望出现这种扩散。但你有5个国家，而且还在增加。你知道，中国目前比我们少得多，但他们

他们会比人们想象的更早赶上我们。他们要低得多。俄罗斯和我们是第一，而我……我们算是不相上下，中国远远落后，但他们正以一种，你知道，听到后不会令你惊讶的、非常快的水平发展。这会……他们最终会赶上，甚至可能超过。但对我来说，最大的问题不是，呃，气候变化，不是，而且，而且一切，你知道，都是问题，但有程度之分。对我来说，大问题是核力量，核的力量如此巨大。而当我谈到我会阻止世界……我会阻止第三次世界大战时，呃，我会的，但，但事实是你必须这么做，因为这不再是陆军坦克来回移动、互相射击，这是，是的，一种前所未见的破坏和力量水平

以前从未见过。是的，实际上，核能有不好的一面，也就是核战争，非常不好的一面，但我认为，嗯，也有核能发电，而它受到了低估。嗯，实际上，你知道，人们对核能、核能发电有这种恐惧，嗯，但它实际上是最安全的发电形式之一。这，这只是一个巨大的误解。嗯，而且，呃，如果你看看比如说由……我是说，我不是想挑电话采矿的毛病，但任何一种采矿作业，嗯，所造成的伤害和桌子，你知道，呃，每年都会有一定数量的伤亡，嗯，而你把它与核能相比，核能实际上好得多。嗯，所以它作为一种电力来源受到了低估，而我认为它是某种

值得重新考虑的东西，但监管太多了，以至于人们无法把它做成。嗯，所以，你知道，也许他们得改个名字，这个名字就是，它是个难听的名字。有些地区，比如，比如当你看到发生的坏事时，我们必须重塑它的品牌，我们得给它起个好名字，我们会用你的名字给它命名之类的，你知道。嗯，不，它有，嘿，它有品牌问题。你知道，当你看到发生的事情时，它确实有品牌问题。当你看到日本发生的事情，他们说大约3,000年内你都无法踏上那片土地。你说过那种话吗？还有在俄罗斯，他们出了那个问题，在那里他们，你知道，那……发生了很多坏事，而且他们有一个问题，他们说2,000年后人们会开始

重新占据那片土地。你知道，你会意识到这相当糟糕。没错，但有……你说得对，它是 aming，实际上没那么糟。所以，比如日本福岛事故发生后，加州的人们问我，你知道，我们是否担心，比如有核云从日本飘来。我说不会，那太疯狂了。实际上，福岛甚至都不危险。我确实飞去了那里，而且，而且，而且在电视上吃了当地种植的蔬菜来证明这一点。嗯，而且，而且，而且我捐赠了一个，一个，一个太阳能水处理……是的，给一座水处理厂的太阳能系统，而且，嗯，是的。但你最近一直感觉不太舒服，我对此很担心。不，不，但我的意思是，我只是……没事。你知道，这就像，呃，你知道，广岛和长崎遭到过轰炸，但现在它们

它们又成了完整的城市。所以这不是某种，你知道，它没，它没有人们想象得那么可怕，基本上是这样。不过，嗯，让我们看看，我是说，我是说，还有没有其他我们应该谈到的话题？嗯，哦，你知道，比如法律战，我认为，你知道，我们需要担忧他们对这个国家所做的事情，显然。是的，是的。好吧，我们刚刚赢得了佛罗里达州的那桩大案。这届拜登政府做了一件这个，呃，国家从未发生过的事，那就是用他的这些胡说八道来追究他们的政治对手，也就是我，呃，纯属胡说八道。而在佛罗里达州的那桩大案中，我们赢了。但他们总是，他们总会挑一个法官和一个陪审……而且他们利用当地的地区检察官，他们利用当地的，呃，司法部长，比如 fonnie，你知道，fonnie 拼作 f ni I，fonny，而这全都是

一个大骗局，而且全都由那里操控，比如在曼哈顿，呃，司法部的一名高层人员进去管理曼哈顿、管理该州；莱蒂西亚·詹姆斯那件事是由拜登司法部的一个人操控的。他们以前从未这样做过，而他们开创了一个非常恶劣的先例。这，这，这叫作法律战、战争，它，呃，是一件可怕的事，在我们国家从未发生过。它确实会在香蕉共和国和第三世界国家发生，但从未发生过。而不可思议的是，它实际上让我的数字上升了，因为人们看得出来。你知道，幸运的是，我有像你这样的平台，或者，你知道，公平地说，像这样的对话，我可以谈论这件事，而人们也能理解。我的意思是，你，你为选举诚信而斗争，而

你最终却因为为选举诚信而斗争遭到起诉，而当你无法再为选举诚信而斗争的那一天到来时，你就不再拥有一个国家了。所以发生的事，发生的事就是他们追究他们的政治对手，也就是我。现在拜登是一个，你知道，在我看来，接近植物状态的人，好吗。我今天看到他在海滩上，我说，为什么会有人允许他……这家伙几乎走不了路，为什么会有人允许他这么做？他有没有认为这看起来不错的政治顾问？呃，你知道，他认为这看起来不错，因为它看起来太糟糕了，而这，这很荒谬。我的意思是，而且他这么做已经很久了。你知道，他连椅子都抬不起来，那把椅子重约3盎司，它是给儿童和老年人抬的，而他

抬不起来。整件事都疯了。好吧，很明显，我是说，很明显，我们现在就是没有总统。你们没有总统，而她会比他更糟，因为她是一个摧毁了旧金山的旧金山自由派，然后作为司法部长，她又摧毁了加州。你谈到地理位置，而我们谈的是阳光和水以及所有这些，没有什么地方比加州更好了。她摧毁了那里。她是最初的地区检察官，她是旧金山最初的……她是加州最初的司法部长。她对加州所做的事情是……好吧，你比我更清楚，你正是出于其中很多原因离开了加州。还有她在犯罪方面所做的事，在无现金 baale 方面所做的事，在那里你杀了某个人

我的意思是，我们有些州，在那里你杀了某个人，他们马上就把你放出去。我的意思是，你，你甚至不必交出……然后他们再也找不到那些人，除非他们再次杀人，然后他们又把他们放出去。是国家正在变成一个非常危险的地方，而她是一个激进左翼的旧金山自由派，而现在她正试图保护……现在她看起来像是，她想比特朗普还特朗普，如果那可能的话。我认为那不可能，但她想比特朗普还特朗普。是的，我想要一堵墙，我……你知道，她想释放所有被拘留的囚犯，而这些人中有些真的很坏，那是今天刚刚出来的。她想……她不想修建那堵墙，尽管墙确实有效。墙和轮子，你知道，在你的行业里

你所做的一切几乎都会过时，嗯，隧道不会，但其他一切都会过时，就连你的火箭飞船也是，它们差不多1个月后就过时了，你会找到一种更好的办法，唯一不会过时的东西就是墙和轮子，而那堵墙，你知道，我修了数百英里的墙，所以我们的数字才会那么好。我本来要再加建200英里，我们已经买下来了，本可以在3周内把它立起来，而他们却以每美元5美分的价格卖掉了。这意味着，我说，哇，这说明他们其实确实想要开放边境。她想要开放边境，而现在她又表现得好像她在边境问题上很强硬，这是个彻头彻尾的谎言。是啊，这根本不是真的，这根本不是真的。所有人都知道这是真的，这、这太可耻了，她竟然

能这么说。不，我是说，显然，差不多一夜之间发生的事情就是，他们、他们正在改写历史，嗯，并且把卡姆拉说得像个温和派，而事实上她是极左派，就是非常、非常左，比伯尼还糟。人们认为她远比伯尼·桑德斯更自由派。她是个激进左翼疯子，如果她要当我们的总统，很快你们就不会再有国家了，而且她会重新做她所信奉的所有事情。她主张削减警察经费，她主张禁止水力压裂，零，你不，现在她突然又说，不，我、我会，我真的希望看到水力压裂。他们上台的那天，她上台的那天，她就会终止水力压裂。顺便说一句，如果人们不认为那些疯子，那些真正相信

那件事的人，呃，他们就不会投票给她，你知道，嗯，比如、比如巴勒斯坦人和以色列。她极其反以色列，而且她对双方都不利。拜登实际上做成了一件不可能的事，双方都恨他，你知道，双方都恨他。那是件很难做到的事，团结。是啊，不，不，我是说，我是说，你知道，内塔尼亚胡前来向参议院和众议院联席会议发表讲话，我当时在那里，而、而、而逗号却放了他鸽子。你知道，这说明了什么？我认为这是极其不尊重人的。我说，如果你是犹太人，或者如果你信奉以色列，如果你是一个、一个，你知道，非常支持以色列的人，如果你投票给她，她比拜登还糟，而拜登已经很糟了，但如果你投票给她，你应该去检查一下脑子。你今晚也看到了，我是说，就在我们做这件事的时候

我看到有报道传来，说他们预计今晚或明天会有数百枚、也许数千枚火箭弹发动袭击，你知道，他们的铁穹，他们这样称呼，我们也都这样称呼，但他们建造的那个盾牌，呃，可能会被，呃，压垮，我们就用这个恰当的词，压垮，但他们通过发射足够多的导弹来压垮它，你比任何人都更了解这一点，通过发射足够多的导弹，他们就无法保护自己，你知道，他们就是把整个地方彻底摧毁，而有些人人们认为这就是他们打算做的事情，而我们没有领导力，这些人不尊重美利坚合众国，而且我告诉你，她会比他更糟，因为她信奉激进左翼，而他不是，我，我觉得你说得对，我是说，你

真的，这件事对可能正在收听的公众来说很重要，要说，要看看 Comm 的过往记录，你知道，呃，在上一个大概月之前，然后说，呃，那是你认同的过往记录吗，嗯，而且我认为，如果你是一个独独立的温和派，你肯定不会认同，嗯，因为那是她的行为一直都很 farle，而我们正看到一种一夜之间的宣传企图，试图改写历史，让人听起来好像 H 是温和派，而她实际上并不温和，嗯，她的，呃，她的竞选搭档，呃，批准了、签署了一项立法，在男孩卫生间里放卫生棉条，好吧，现在这就是我需要听到的全部，卫生棉条和男孩卫生间，而这意味着她也相信这一点，我是说，之所以选了这个人，是因为他最接近许多人原以为

她会选某种相反的人，但她选了一个反以色列的激进左翼人士，但他们说她比伯尼·桑德斯糟糕得多，如果她当总统，如果此刻有一名民主党人当总统，我不认为我们的国家能够生存下去，我，我认为这，我认为这是一个巨大的，我认为，我认为在 k 政府之下我们会陷入巨大麻烦，呃，坦率地说，这是我的诚实看法，嗯，而且，呃，而且我，我认为，呃，我真的认为，为了国家的利益，你赢得这次选举至关重要，呃，我是说，那只是我在陈述自己的看法，嗯，现在，你知道，你可能看到了这件事，但我，我收到了一封来自欧盟委员会的信，像是说，你知道，在我们正在进行的这场讨论期间之类的，不要有虚假信息

比如，而且你知道这件事，比如，有，有很多企图进行审查、甚至由其他国家强迫对美国人进行审查的行为，呃，而且，嗯，你知道，你对此怎么看？嗯，我非常了解，呃，欧洲联盟，正如你知道的，他们在贸易中大占美国的便宜，我们，呃，通过一个不同的为北约，呃，我们保护他们，然而，呃，如果你在美国制造一辆汽车，你无法在欧洲销售它，你就是卖不了，这是，这是不可能的，呃，我们的农民也一样，我们的农民发现做生意非常困难，你知道，我们对他们有2500亿美元的逆差，人们不知道这一点，欧洲联盟听起来如此美好，但让我告诉你，他们，他们，呃，没有中国那么强硬，但他们很糟糕，而我让

他们知道这一点，而这可能就是他们通知你的原因，不，他们没有善待我们的国家，我们保护他们，你知道，呃，就乌克兰而言，所以我们投入了2500亿，而他们投入了大约710亿，而且他们的规模相同，就是如果你把欧洲各国加起来，你知道，从经济体量来说，规模大致相同，当你说和我们一样，而他们，而且而且而且，他们面临的风险大得多，他们，他们就在那里，我们有一片海洋将我们与，在这种情况下，敌人会是俄罗斯，过去是为苏联，但我们姑且认为他们离得足够近，而发生的情况是，呃，他们投入了7000多万，我，我认为，我认为甚至比那个还少，十亿，而我们投入了大约2500亿，而且可能比那个高得多，而我说为什么

你们难道不打算拉平吗，为什么他们不支付我们所支付的，而且他们更——你知道，这对他们重要得多，因为事实上，你知道，他们就在那附近，我是说，他们基本上都在那个位置，我们并不在那里，但他们应该，他们应该。我对北约就是这么做的，当时北约28个国家中只有7个缴清了费用，而美国在补——美国在巨额补贴北约，补贴北约。我说，我进去后说，你们必须缴清，如果你们不缴清，我们就不会再保护你们。我承受了很多抨击，但你知道发生了什么吗？数十亿又数十亿美元涌了进来，而且，是的，我，我认为，我认为很多公众并不

并不知道，美国承担了北约开支中不成比例的份额，然后我们在贸易上又被占便宜，所以想想看。是的，嗯，我是说，北约的要点是保卫欧洲，而这，呃，你知道，这就像是，那么好吧，为什么，为什么美国为保卫欧洲所支付的费用不成比例地高于欧洲？这说不通，这是不公平的。嗯，而且那，那确实是应该处理的事情。嗯，你知道，当你谈到削减成本和节省以及其他一切时，我是说，老实说，听着，没有人比我对乌克兰局势感觉更糟，因为我知道那绝不会发生。我认识扎林斯基，他对我非常正直，因为当他们搞俄罗斯骗局并且说

我和他通过一次电话时，他说那是一次完美的通话，是一次很棒的通话。他本可以哗众取宠，然后，你知道，说，哦，他，他非常咄咄逼人。他说，不，那是一次非常友好的通话。我打电话给他，是为了祝贺他获胜，而你最终却遭到弹劾，因为这些人都是疯子。你知道，我说的是内部的人和外部的敌人之间的区别，在许多情况下，内部的人对我们国家而言比俄罗斯人和中——更危险。如果你有一位聪明的总统，你就不会和他们产生问题，你会做成，你会做一些事情。是的，现在他们占我们的便宜占得不可思议，但和正确的人一起，你会做成事情。是的，嗯，我，我，我

认为，我认为很明显，你是，你是，你是言论自由的信奉者和倡导者，因为在你的第一个总统任期内，你每天都遭到无休止的攻击，而且往往非常不公平，带着虚——你知道，带着，带着虚假的攻击，而你没有试图让媒体闭嘴，你没有试图，呃，限制他们的言论自由，我认为那是他的很多——嗯，好的一点是，你和我，还有一些人，非常少，呃，我们可以把话传出去，尽管有时很难，因为他们不想刊登。你知道，比如，比如我们现在正进行一场很棒的对话，卡马拉不会进行这种对话，她做不到，因为她不聪明。你知道，她不是一个聪明的人。顺便说一句，她无法进行这种对话，而拜登，我们不

甚至都不必谈他。我的意思是，他无法进行这种对话，他，他在一个问题问到一半时就会放弃，他会走出去，他会说，我在哪里，我要去哪里。所以不管怎样，但不，他不会进行这种——这是真的。没有多少人会进行这种对话，但你知道，我们涉及了很多领域，而妙处在于，你，你知道，我们可以进行对话，而我能把话说出去，不会——因为我明白这一点真的非常重要：你实际上可以和你进行一场对话。是的，很不错，不是吗？而你无法和拜登或卡马拉进行对话，这就像是不，呃，这是不可能的。没错。所以这就像和一个NPC说话，根本不可能。但想想看，我们需要一个极其敏锐的男人或人

来阻止所有核危险，以及我所谈到的所有危险，而我和所有这些——你知道，我和金正恩相处得很好，我们一起吃过晚餐，我们什么都有过，而他，他真的很喜欢我，我和他相处得非常好。顺便说一句，他是那里的绝对老大。你知道，很多人说，哦，你认为他真的——让我告诉你，我看到过一些你不想知道的事情。他就是老大。但你——我们关系很好，而他不喜欢，呃，拜登。他认为拜登是个蠢人，他说他是个蠢人。嗯，至少他直抒己见，但你知道，在这个国家，你算是不能这么说，不过我猜你可以，你应该可以这么说。这是真的。但我们确实需要，我们需要聪明的人，而且我们

需要有领导能力的人，而她没有那种能力。你能想象吗，现在你非常了解主席，她——你能想象她和他谈判，甚至只是站在一起吗？这整个概念都荒——她太糟糕了，她太糟糕了，但她一路畅通无阻。我今天在《时代》杂志上看到她的一张图片，她看起来像有史以来最美丽的女演员。那是一幅画，而且，呃，实际上她看起来非常像我们伟大的第一夫人米拉尼。她看——她看起来不像——她看起来不像卡米拉。没错，但她当然是一位美丽的女性，所以我们就说到这里，对吧？是的，嗯，你知道，也许就像，我认为这也是——你知道，美国人民想要，你知道，美国人民想要，想要感到兴奋，并且

受到未来的鼓舞，想要感觉未来会比过去更好，而且这——美国将会做出比，呃，我们过去所做的更伟大的事情，达到新的高度，让你为身为美国人感到自豪，并且，呃，对未来感到兴奋。嗯，他们想要美国梦回来，你知道，他们想要美国梦回来，这比其他任何事情都重要。它，它就像是，你今天没有那个，因为这些人，他们只是被榨干了。他们看到无能的人在管理我们的——你知道，拜登这件事非常有意思，人们就是发现他无能，而当我和他辩论时，我当时就像，这是真的吗？那是——是的，那实在太荒谬了。嗯，但我，你知——道，我认为有，有一些，你知道，一些

一些，你知道，宏伟的项目，我们，我们可以做。我的意思是，我认为，比如，你知道，我们可以，我们可以在月球上建一个基地，我们可以把美国宇航员送上火星，我们，我们可以，呃，建——建造连接我们城市的高速线路，你知道，比世界上其他任何线路都更先进，这样人们就能快速出行。嗯，你知道，用隧道解决交通问题是可能的，我们，我们，你知道，我们已经在维加斯那样做并取得了巨——大的进展，而且，嗯，你知道，而且，而且，而且只要做一些令人兴奋、鼓舞人心的事情，让未来感觉比过去更好。嗯，我看到了你在维加斯做的事情，我告诉你，那令人惊叹。我，我看到了，我好好看了一眼，简直不可思议，你所——你知道，简直不可思议，而且你可以

到处都可以这样做，你可以到处这样做，这，呃，很深，对，你甚至不需要多少结构，你知道，假设你处在合适的地区，不，这很直接，这太不可思议了，所以，而且，而且我觉得我们可以做一些，一些事情，就像，就像中国的城市之间拥有不可思议的高速铁路，但我认为，实际上是有可能的，嗯，通过，通过，通过隧道，如果，如果放松监管，如果，如果有能力真正做到，比如从法律上可以，可以，可以真正修建隧道，我认为你可以拥有高速，呃，隧道，实际上比，比，比世界上任何其他城市间高速交通方式都更好，而那将是某种，你知道，美国人可以说，哇，好吧，我们拥有比世界上任何其他地方都更酷的东西

那才是，那才是让你为身在美国而自豪的那种东西，比地面列车安全得多，地面列车存在危险，你知道，有人，有疯狂的人，它安全得多，好得多，呃，而且你知道，这很遗憾，因为我见过一些最棒的列车，我，我觉得它很迷人，我见过那些系统以及它们如何运行，还有他们称作子弹头列车的东西，我想是这么叫的，而且它们，它们快得令人难以置信，舒适得令人难以置信，没有任何问题，而这个国家没有任何类似的东西，差得远，而且我们没有这种东西说不通，说不通，是的，我，我，我觉得还有，比如，有，你知道，我只是有点又说到过度监管上了，但我认为有件事，嗯，我觉得人们通常能够理解

法律法规的情况就是这样，它们只是，每年都会越来越多，除非有一个清理它们的流程，否则最终一切都会变成非法的，而这实际上会减，减缓新技术的发展。我的意思是，如果你考虑一下这种情况，我认为我们，我们，FDA有一些改革空间，呃，可以提高我们，你知道，批准那些能够帮助挽救生命、改善人们生活的，呃，药物的速度。嗯，我非常努力地推动了这件事，你知道，我们把那个数字降到了有史以来最低，而且我们让，呃，治疗方法获得FDA批准的速度快得让人们甚至无法相信。但我，我向他们施压了，我，我觉得他们不太喜欢我，但我让一些东西获得了批准。

在FDA，以，以，以他们无法相信的数量获批，而且你知道，那是一个非常官僚化的群体。实际上，在很多情况下，那是一群很好的人，我认识了他们中的许多人，但为了regenerant，为了许多不同的东西，我真的非常用力地推动他们，那些东西确实相当了不起。但，但是FDA花的时间太长了，他们会，要12年才能让一种产品获批，我把它降到了4年，而且我让一些事情很快就办成了，但这，呃，这确实是一个必须处理的问题，因为花的时间太长了，实在太长了。是的，就是花的时间太长了，而它，你，你最终得到的是同样的批准，但只是，只是，你知道，要花数年，而不是我认为可能只需要数月的事情，那会改

改善人们的生活，我认为，你知道，而且，而且，但是，但是它，我，我只是想插进来谈谈这一点，就是必须有一个积极主动的流程，呃，来减少规章制度，因为否则它们，它们每年只会不断累积，你就会像动脉硬化一样，最终一切要么是非法的，要么要花上永远。嗯，然后，然后我们，我们，我们作为一个社会就只是，嗯，我们就只是aify，我们只是，呃，无法取得任何进展，而，而那是，那真的是一件大事。你知道，埃隆，回到FDA再说一下，我办成了一件叫作“尝试权”的事。也就是说，如果你身患绝症，就可以进去使用一种太空时代的，呃，你知道，药物或任何可能的东西。我们有世界上最好的医生、最好的实验室，我们确实

如此，但是人们会去其他国家，因为你不能使用这种产品，即便他们认为它有效，因为它正在经过FDA的流程。我让它获得了批准，让你可以，你，你基本上，看，没有人想要它，医生不想要，因为责任问题；国家不想要，我们的国家，因为他们不想被起诉；这些人身患绝症；保险公司不想要它，制药公司也不想要，没人想要它。我把所有人都召集到一个房间里，我们达成了一项协议，你不会被起诉，而且他们也不希望这被记入他们的记录，如果有人身患绝症，并在服药后死亡，他们不希望那被记入自己的记录。所以我们设立了第2份，一份单独的名单，如果有人是，这样它就不会

被算作负面记录，好吗？而且如你所知，我们办成了，我们拯救了“尝试权”。他们试图办成这件事已经58年了，它听起来很简单，但事实并非如此，因为，你知道，我的意思是，你知道，保险公司，没人想要它。但我们办成了。有人签字，你签署一份文件，声明你不会起诉保险公司、国家，你不会起诉任何人，而我们办成了，我们正在挽救数以万计的生命。“尝试权”，希望你永远不需要它，但如果你需要，你不必前往亚洲。你知道，如果人们有钱，他们就去亚洲，他们去欧洲；如果他们没钱，他们就回家等死。发生的就是这种事，他们会回家等死。是的，嗯，嗯，我的意思是，实际上这里也得给欧洲一些

肯定。就像，如果一种药物在，在，在欧洲得到改进、批准，而欧洲的法规多得疯狂，那它显然也应该在美国获得批准。我的意思是，他们的法规比我们还多，所以为什么一种药物会在欧洲获批，却没有在美国获批？那，那太疯狂了。嗯，我们做到了，我们办成了一件他们确实已经尝试了50年的事，但他们就是办不成，而我办成了，而且这，呃，这确实是一件了不起的事。但你说得对，有些人去欧洲，因为某种药物在这里没有获批，却在欧洲获批，而那是一种通常来说会有效的药物，这相当疯狂。完全正确，你说得对，而我，我认为，只要人们被恰当地告知利弊，以及比如这些是风险，这

你知道，那些是风险，然后比如你自己作决定。嗯，那，那有道理。嗯，我想，只是，你知道，在差不多收尾的时候，顺便说一句，我正在看这些数字，有很多人在听你讲话。我希望你不会紧张，因为现在有很多人在听你讲话，好像是6000万还是什么。那个数字是多少？太疯狂了。真令人惊叹，你马上就能看到有多少人。数字是多少？哇，是多少？嗯，我认为按人数来说，它比你说的更大。你，你说2500万，而现在已经超过，是那个数字的2倍多。2500万。我认为你会达到6000万或7000万，而且我猜随着时间推移。嘿，那，我祝贺你。这个我能拿到报酬吗，还是不能？嗯，我，我认为实际上，就

未来，呃，你知道，几天、2周内将听到这场对话的人数而言，嗯，它，它将达到数百……大家是这么说的。是的，那很好。嗯，你看，这是我的荣幸。是的，我，但我，我只问这一点：你现在过得更好，还是我当总统时你过得更好？现在没人过得更好。人们，你知道，我们就此做过民调，现在没人过得更好。通货膨胀毁掉了一切，而且，你知道，他们也感到非常不安全。你看看许多不同事情的进展，你看看我们在大学里发生的骚乱，因为，我的意思是，这很荒谬，但，对，所有这些权利，他们就是觉得不安全，而现在他们真的觉得不安全，因为你有了一种新型犯罪，叫作移民犯罪，犯罪。我称之为拜登移民

犯罪，也许我会称之为卡拉移民犯罪。但是，你知道，我的意思是，面对所有这些事情，我总是试着，比如，试着通过直接问人来了解底层真相。而且，你知道，我，我妈妈住在纽约，而我，我就问，比如，你知道，妈妈，你知道吗，你的朋友中有没有人，你知道，遭到过袭击或攻击？她说有，她的3位朋友在3起不同的事件中遭到袭击，就，就，就在最近几个月，只是在纽约街头走路的时候。而我，而，而我说，嗯，那些卖掉他们的人怎么，怎么了？哦，什么事都没有，他们，他们逃掉了。就像，而且，而且他们，他们知道总是能逃掉，什么事都，而且他们甚至，他们甚至懒得报案，因为没有，他们知道不会有，他们不会

去，你知道，人们不会受到起诉。他们就是，他们就是在纽约放出，你知道，暴力罪犯。唯一受到起诉的人是唐纳德·特朗普。他们没有，他们起诉特朗普。是的，我的意思是，这，这，这显然完全乱套了，太糟糕了，如果暴力罪犯正在，正在逃脱斯科特。嗯，而，而，而与此同时，你知道，纽约却投入巨额资源起诉你，这就像，这是什么，你知道，而且，而且我认为，那些比较理性的公众说、看到这一幕会说，这到底是怎么回事？这显然是在滥用法律制度。嗯，你知道，法律，法律制度本应保护公众免受，嗯，暴力罪犯的伤害，而且它，它显然应该允许公众自己作出

关于谁应该当总统的决定，而不是由，你知道，某个，呃，你知道，法律案件来决定。一旦他们开创这个先例，因为这种事可以延续到下一个人身上。我的意思是，就他们正在做的事情而言，这是一个非常糟糕的先例，你知道，追击自己的政治对手，而事情的本质就是如此，就是追击自己的政治对手。然后，然后你遇到一个法官，他是，你知道，坚定的民主党人，而且我这么说已经很客气了，在很多情况下简直腐败透顶。但你遇到一名法官，然后你进入一个共和党只能获得3%或4%选票的地区，而且，你知道，你面对的陪审员候选人群体会由，呃，那些憎恨共和党人或憎恨……的人组成。不过情况也可能反过来，因为在那些憎恨民主党人的地区，事情也可能从相反方向开始，而你会走

进一个潘多拉魔盒，这对这个国家来说是非常危险的事情，甚至对这个州来说也是非常危险的事情。纽约市是洛斯，纽约市和州因为他们对我做的事情失去了很多生意，因为这些人说，我们不希望这种事发生在我们身上。那不是什么司法体系，你有的是一个不公平的司法体系，而这正让纽约州付出巨额金钱代价。人们正在离开，公司也正在离开，而且他们不会回来。所以，你知道，所有那些事情都很重要，但现在经济才是大事，而我们可以如此迅速地让经济好转，人们会再次回来。我们要摆脱，我认为有很多很多机会。绝对如此，绝对如此。所以我只是想，我想祝贺你，你已经做了

你做得太出色了，你确实有一个非常有创造力的头脑，你知道，我们可以谈，你和我可以谈火箭，你这么说真客气，嗯，隧道，我们可以谈隧道和火箭，还有，呃，电动汽车，这么多东西，而现在你又涉足AI了，那将会是另一个美妙的东西，我会这么说，所以，呃，是的，这太了不起了，埃隆，你所做的事情太了不起了，太了不起了，我向你表示祝贺，我是说，谢谢你，嗯，我是说，我只想在这里说，你知道，祝愿我们拥有一个令人振奋、鼓舞人心的未来，让人们能够有所期待，能够保持乐观，并为接下来发生的事情感到兴奋，而那，呃，就是我认为，呃，作为总统会带来的那种未来，这就是我支持你的原因，嗯，我对此非常感激，那份支持对我意义重大

对我来说，并非所有支持都有那么大的意义，说实话，你的支持意义重大，而且你知道，我们有一句口号，让美国再次伟大，这很简单，但它真正表达的是，我们想让美国再次伟大，而我们能做到，我们现在就能做到，但如果我们还要像过去4年那样再受苦4年，我不确定这个国家是否还能恢复过来，情况就是这么糟，实在太糟了，我们必须，我们必须做很多事情，我认为这是一个巨大的风险，是一个非常真实的风险，而且，而且你知道，我只想向正在收听的人指出，我以前并不是非常政治化，而且如果，只要看看我的记，我的记录就知道，实际上我一直，我，我，我并不像他们有时试图描绘的那样，是某种极右翼人士，那很荒谬

因为我在制造电动汽车，还有，你知道，太阳能和电池，帮助他们改善环境，而且，呃，而且，而且我实际上，我，我，呃，你知道，我支持过奥巴马，在他竞选总统时，我排了6个小时的队，只为和奥巴马握手，而且你知道，所以我并不是什么根深蒂固的长期共和党人，实际上我把自己称为，呃，你知道，从历史上看是温和派民，民主党人，但现在我觉得我们确实正处在国家的一个关键关头，嗯，而且，呃，你知道，我认为很多人原以为，你知道，拜登政府会是一个温和派政府，但它并不是，而且，而且显然我们将会看到，嗯，一个由卡姆拉领导的、甚至更偏F左翼的政府，那就是，那就是我的真实看法

我是说，她父亲确实就是，我是说，她成长过程中确实是作为一个真正的，她父亲是一名马克思主义经济学家，这个你可以去谷歌搜索，我是说，这并不是我们凭空捏造的，你知道，嗯，她就是这样被抚养长大的，所以，而且，而且我们，我们，我们只是，我们希望拥有一个繁荣的未来，而且，而且我，我认为我们正处在这个关键关头，而且，嗯，而且，我认为这是一个美国，呃，将会增加一个岔路口的情况，确实，嗯，而且我认为这将需要，这将需要，如果通向像你这样的道路是通往繁荣的道路，而我认为卡玛拉正好相反，那么那就是我的，我是说，那就是我的真实看法，我，我会遭到疯狂攻击，而且，你知道，我自己也经历了相当多的 lowf far，嗯，而且，呃，但我只是想告诉

各位，我的真实看法是，而且，而且我，我以前没有积极参与过政治，真正积极参与政治，嗯，我只是想指出，我过往的立场一直是温和派，如果不算温和派，那也是略微偏左。而且，而且，呃，所以我是想对那些属于温和派阵营的人说，我认为你们应该支持，嗯，唐纳德·特朗普竞选总统。嗯，而且，而且我，我认为这实际上是道路上一个非常重要的岔口，而且，而且如果事情走向另一边，我们就会陷入严重麻烦。好吧，我想感谢你，而且你知道，我其实一直确实觉得你有点偏左，我必须这么说，所以，呃，能得到你的背书就更加荣幸了。我知道你对此的感受有多强烈，但你知道，当你想到她，呃，15年前的旧金山，我有一位很好的

朋友鲍勃·蒂什，他说那是美国最伟大的城市，而现在那里，你，那里不是，几乎已经不宜居了，加利福尼亚州也是如此。她参与了对旧金山的毁灭和对加利福尼亚州的毁灭，如果人们愚蠢到选她，她也会参与毁灭我们的国家。我希望那不会发生，也希望选举能够诚实地进行。我们会扭转这个国家的局面，我们会，我们会做一些事情，而且我们可以相当快地做到。我们必须清除那些，你知道，被其他国家送给我们的罪犯，而那些国家还在嘲笑，他们嘲笑我们。他们认为我们接受这些人很愚蠢。这些人是激进的冷血杀手，在很多情、情况下都是如此

还有恐怖分子，他们以10万计地进入了我们的国家。是的，而且我们必须把他们赶出去。是的，我是说，如果，如果我可以，也许，你知道，我认为这些问题是大多数美国人，呃，都会、都会赞同的，那就是我们想要安全、整洁的城市，我们想要稳固的边境，呃，我们想要合理的政府开支，我们想恢复人们对司法体系的尊重，包括这种尊重的观感和现实，你知道，停止利用法律发动攻击，嗯，而且，呃，而且我认为那就像，这些怎么甚至算得上右翼立场？我认为那些只是，那只是常识，而且，而且那是，呃，我是说，你会赞同吗？100%赞同。我，我不明白，你知道，他们把整套东西称为进步主义，他们不再喜欢这个词

自由主义了，但不管称它为自由主义还是进步主义，我都不明白怎么会有人说，他们把监狱里的人清空并送进我们的国家是可以接受的。而且我再说一次，我告诉过你，全世界各地的犯罪率都在大幅下降，这很说得通。事实上，下一次我们要做的是，如果这次选举出了什么事，那会是一场恐怖秀，我们下次就在委内瑞拉见面，因为那里会比我们的国家安全得多，好吗？所以我们会去，你和我会去，我们会在委内瑞拉开会、吃晚餐，因为这就是正在发生的事：他们的犯罪率在下降，而我们的犯罪率则直冲屋顶。这非常简单，而且你还什么都没看到，因为这些人已经进入了我们的国家，而他们才刚刚开始

适应，他们不了解执法中的政治正确，或者缺乏执法。还有我们的警察，我，我必须说，就这件事而言，我们有很棒的警察，我们有很棒的执法人员，但他们不被允许履行职责。他们必须能够履行职责而不被毁掉。嗯，绝对是，而且如果你是一名冒着生命危险的警察，呃，为了，你知道，为了，你知道，逮捕，呃，可能杀死你的暴力罪犯，而且他们有时确实会杀死你，嗯，这显然会让人士气低落。然后你，你逮捕了暴力罪犯，接着那、那个地方检察官，你知道，却不起诉，而且，而且就那样放那家伙出去。那么，为什么，为什么警察还应该冒着生命危险，呃，逮捕一名暴力重罪犯？好吧，更糟糕的是，什么都不会发生，甚至

更糟糕的是，他们会起诉警察，他们，他们会追究一名，而且他们会起诉警察。他们夺走他的养老金，夺走他的工作，他失去了家庭，失去了房子。嗯，我，我，我当时觉得，我觉得这非常能说明问题，简直太能说明问题了，你知道，当时有那个、那个案件，呃，你知道，好像是一群暴徒殴打了，呃，警察，我想是在纽约时代广场，而且，而且，而且后来那些人什么事都没有。他们被、他们被零保释释放了，而且我想其中一群人还得到了去加利福尼亚州的免费机票。嗯，这算什么，我是说，那、那是、那是对美国的严重侮辱，而且，而且这就是，我是说，这太疯狂了。难道我们已经失去了所有尊严？那、那种事怎么能

被允许发生？我从未见过这样的事。你知道，我们见过他们中枪，这是个非常危险的职业，但也是他们非常自豪的职业，而且他们想要能够履行自己的职责。但我见过他们中枪，我见过很多，但是我从未见过这些家伙站在一条大街中央，所有人都看着他们，而他们简直像在打拳一样，挥拳，站着同一名警察搏斗。有2名警察，而这些家伙大约有6个，他们把警察痛打一顿。在他们自己的国家，如果他们那样做，他们早就死了，他们会被枪毙，他们会立刻被枪毙。而且你知道，他们来自这些国家，他们需要一些时间才能意识到，我们在这个国家不会那样做，但是

在他们自己的国家，如果他们站在街上同一名警察打架，他们会被枪毙。那里没有政治正确，看到这种事太令人悲哀了，太令人悲哀了。顺便说一句，这就是会有犯罪的原因，因为我们什么都不做。是的，我们，我们就是不能容许出现这样一种情况：我们的警察在镜头前被、被，你知道，一群非法移民殴打，然后那些打、殴打警察的家伙却什么事都没有。我是说，而且他们还被释放了。这是不可接受的，我们会改变这种情况，而且我们会把他们赶出这个国家。你知道，我刚参与进来的时候，他们说你无法把他们送回这些国家，你无法把他们送回去。就，呃，危地马拉、洪都拉斯、萨尔瓦多而言

，还有其他一些国家，你无法把她送回去。我说，真的吗？哦，你无法把它送回去，因为在，呃，奥巴马执政期间，他无法把他送回去。他们会设……他们会把他空运过去，而这些国家会把飞机停在跑道上，让你的飞机无法降落。他们把他们送回去，那位将军告诉我，那些将军告诉我，先生，我们无法把他们送回去，那些国家不接受MS-13帮派成员，他们不接受他们。我说，真的吗？我们以经济援助的形式向这些不同国家支付多少钱？这本身也有些荒谬。答案是7.5亿美元。我说，很好，告诉他们，他们违约了，他们欠款逾期了，我们不会再做了，我们不会再付钱给他们，因为他们不接受。而且你知道发生了什么吗？他们全都给我打了电话，他们每一个

都打了。他们说，先生，我们很荣幸把他们接回去，我们很荣幸。事情就是这么容易，但这就是那种事情。而且我们把他们送回去了。我们接收了如此多的，你知道，MS13可能是世界上最恶劣的帮派，他们最凶残、最暴力。我们把他们成千上万地清除出去，把他们赶出了这里，而他们的国家把他们接了回去。因为我说，你们不会再得到任何经济援助，我一这么说，他们就友善起来了。他们不肯替奥巴马把他们接回去，他们不肯替任何人把他们接回去。而现在我们遇到了问题，因为我们有这个家伙，而且他们又不肯再接收他了，在拜登执政期间，因为他们不尊重他。是的，是的，所以这就是，这就是必须，必须完成的事。我们，我们就是不能，不能有

呃，不管他们是不是公民，我们都不能允许，因为他们一个专业人士也起诉了公民，不，不只是，不只是合法移民，所以，呃，如果是这样，你不能让暴力的，你说屡次实施暴力的罪犯不被、不被，嗯，监禁，对吧，因为他们显然按照定义会继续，呃，继续，继续，呃，你知道，伤害别人，而且，而且，而且我，我认为这件事有一部分源于，存在，嗯，而且我，你知道，在某些方面我确实算是自由派，我的意思是，我，只是你显然希望对人们抱有同理心，你希望对人们抱有同理心，我完全赞同这一点，你希望有同理心，但你也必须对罪犯的受害者抱有同理心，而如果你，如果你只对这些

罪犯抱有同理心，那，那其实是浅层的同理心，不是真的，你没有思考，你没有，你的同理心只有一层深，呃，你必须说，比如，如果你不监禁这个人，他们会去，呃，伤害谁，他们会，他们可能杀人，他们可能强，强奸某人，如果，如果你不监禁他们，你就必须对受害者抱有同理心，而现在缺乏对罪犯受害者的同理心，而且，而且对罪犯的同理心太多了，这说不通，我，这就是为什么你要对整个社会抱有深层的同理心，而不是对罪犯抱有浅层的同理心，而且我们必须给予我们的警察他们应得的尊严和尊重，而且我们必须让他们履行职责，他们，他们可以做得非常好，但我们必须让他们履行他们的

职责，而如果我们不这样做，我们，你知道，这，这一切都会，一切都会消失，从来没有过这样的社会，在这里你可以为所欲为，却什么后果都没有，我说的是暴力犯罪，而且它会变得更加暴力，因为这些是非常、非常暴力的人，人，而且我们会把他们赶出我们的国家，我们会把他们送回原来的地方，因为是那些总统和管理那些国家的各种人把他们送到这里来的，而且我认识那些家伙中的每一个，他们都是聪明人，都是懂街头门道的人，而且他们真的认为美国很愚蠢，他们认为管理我们的是愚蠢的人，而他们碰巧说对了，但我在任的时候，我们没有问题，我们把他们赶了出去

我们清除了数千名 MS13 帮派成员，我们把他们送了回去，而现在又一次，他们，这还是老一套，我们不这么做，而且他们实际上还大幅增加了对他们的援助，他们把援助提高到了数十亿美元，却什么也没换回来，所以你知道，这，这，呃，我希望每个人都会投票给特朗普，我们会让这个国家恢复正常，而且我本来不需要这些，我就像，我本来不需要这些，我本来过着非常美好的生活，我不需要去经历法院系统、经历所有其他事情，同时还要竞选，我必须竞选，我必须经历虚假的审判，有些案件中还有腐败的法官，彻底腐败的法官，我本来不需要这些，我过着美好的生活，我拥有很棒的地点，我拥有美丽的海洋，我有一些地方，你知道，我，这曾经是

但我觉得这很重要，如果我不得不这么做，如果让我重新来过，你可能会觉得我这么做其实是疯了，但如果让我重新来过，我还是会再做一次，因为这远比我或我的生命重要得多，这是我们要拯救这个国家，这个国家正在衰落，而我们所对抗的这些人是坏人，他们是骗子，他们发表言论，他们他们他们做的事情非常糟糕，他们他们说他们要打造强大的边境，他们说自己在边境问题上做得很好，而他们是历史上最糟糕的，他们说他们要阻止 CRI，事实不言自明，如此不可思议，自己说明了一切，事情已经 G 到了这样一种地步，人们甚至都懒得报道

很多 CI 的犯罪，因为他们知道什么都不会发生，嗯，你知道，这就是我一直从人们那里听到的轶事，嗯，所以你知道，只是，呃，你知道，我的价值观，我只是想对外面的人说，比如我的，你知道，我认为对未来很重要的事情是，比如我们必须有安全的城市，我们必须有稳固的边境，我们必须有合理的支出，而且而且我们必须有去，你知道，放松监管，嗯，这样我们才能拥有繁荣的未来，然后我们希望有一些令人兴奋的，你知道，某种登月式项目，让人们能为之振奋，而且，嗯，你知道，那就是那就是我期待的未来，而且，嗯，你知道，我支持环保，嗯，但但是我并不反对，呃，你知道，我并不是

我认为我们不应该妖魔化石油和天然气行业，因为他们他们现在维持着文明的运转，而且，呃，但我确实认为我们希望以，你知道，你知道，合理的速度迈向，呃，可持续能源经济，那些那些是我的价值观，而且而且而且我认为，嗯，你知道，而且而且而且所以我的意思是，那就是，呃，我为什么支持你竞选总统，你知道，好的，我很感激，我们将让，我们将给予企业激励，让它们进入我们的国家，而不是离开我们的国家，我们将提供巨大的激励，我们希望企业在这里建设，而不是在其他地方建设，我们希望创造就业机会，而且再说一次，这关乎美国梦，你再也听不到人们谈论美国梦了，埃隆，你听不到，你就是美国

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好人，那些那些聪明人，那些愚蠢的人，那些能做成事情的人，那些人，你知道，你会了解，当我刚上任时，我我告诉人们，按照假新闻媒体的说法，我只去过华盛顿特区 17 次，我去过 17 次，我从没在那里过夜，而你并不认识那些人，你依赖其他人给你提供名字，然后你意识到，你所依赖的人并没有那么好，现在我们有很棒的人，但我们也有一些人，如果我当时知道的话，我本来不会，你知道，任用他们，现在我认识所有人，我认为我们将，呃，我们真的会迅速扭转局面，我们别无选择，否则我们将不再拥有一个国家，而我真的很感激，对我来说，这一直很有趣，和你在一起，你是个了不起的人，你完成了一项

做得不可思议，也给人们带来了巨大的鼓舞，巨大的鼓舞，我希望你坚持下去，只是，呃，继续好好干，而我们即将迎来一场重大的选举，我认为 11 月 5 日将是我国历史上最重要的一天，我认为那场选举将是最重要的选举，而且我认为它最终也许会成为我国历史上最重要的一天，因为如果我们不赢，我只是为每一个、所有人感到非常难过，不，我们，我认为我们正处在文明命运道路上的一个民众之处，而且，嗯，而且我认为我们需要，归根结底，非常感谢你，埃隆，这是莫大的荣幸，我们以后会再来一次，而且，呃，这真的很有趣，我希望你有很多观众，我听说你有

很多，但我希望你，我知道你有很多，所以，呃，我很感激，很快见，好，听起来不错，谢谢，谢谢你，伊兰，非常感谢，再见

all right hello everyone um so uh my apologies for the late start uh we unfortunately had a massive uh distributed denial of service attack against uh our servers and uh saturated all of our all of our uh data lines like basically hundreds of gigabits of of data were Satur Creed um we've uh we think we've overcome most of that and uh so it's now time to proceed but um as as this uh this massive attack illustrates uh there's a lot of opposition to people just hearing um what president Trump has to say and um so but I'm honored to have this conversation I want to emphasize it's a it's a conversation um and it's really intended to just get get a feel for what Donald Trump is just like in a conversation um it's hard to catch a Vibe about someone if you just

don't hear them talk in a normal way and when you know when there's when there's an adversarial interview like no one's themselves in an adversarial interview um so for and this is really aimed at uh kind of open-minded independent voters who um you I just trying to make up their mind uh and uh so you can understand like what what is you know what is it just like to have a conversation so um honor to Donald great great to uh to speak um we had a a great conversation yesterday as you mentioned yesterday if we could just record that conversation and post it it would have been excellent and I hope we can have something like that today well I think we will I'm pretty sure we will and congratulations because I see you broke every record in the book with the

so many millions of people and that's an honor we view that as an honor and then uh you do want silencing of certain voices usually those are voices that have something to say that are constructive often times constructive and so we have to consider it an honor but congrat tonight that's great well thank you um well I maybe uh we could start off with um I mean the assassination attempt uh which uh was an incredible thing and I have to say that uh you know your actions that assess attempt were inspiring um you know you instead of shying away from things in instead of ducking down um you were pumping your fist in the air and saying fight fight fight and I think that's I mean you know the president of the United States represents America and I think that

is that is America that that is strength Under Fire and um so that's uh you know a big you know part of the reason why I was uh excited to endorse you as uh the president of United States for having another term here is uh that was that was just incredibly inspiring but but I mean what was it like for you not pleasant I have to be I said it was blood I had more blood I didn't know I I didn't know had that much blood the doctors later told me that the ear is a place that is uh a very bloody place if you're going to get hit but uh in this case it was probably the best alternative you could even think about because it went at the right angle and uh you know it was a it was a hard hit it was very I guess you would say surreal but it wasn't surreal you know

I was telling somebody you have instances like this who are like a lot less than this where you feel it's a surreal situation and I never felt that way I knew immediately that it was a bullet I knew immediately that it was at the ear yeah and because it you know it hit very hard but hit the ear and I also heard people shout bullets bullets you know get down get down because I you know I moved down pretty nicely pretty quickly and we had bullets flying right over my head after I went down so I'm glad I went down the the bigger miracle was that I was looking in the exact direction of the shooter and so it hit it hit me at an angle that was uh far less destructive than any other angle so that was the miracle that was for those people that don't believe in

God I think we got to all start thinking about that you have to uh you know I'm I'm a Believer now I'm more of a Believer I think and a lot of people have said that to me a lot of great people have said that to me actually but it was uh it was amazing that I happened to be turned just at that perfect angle and uh all because I put down a chart on immigration that showed that the numbers were so great I I love that chart even more maybe it's a sign maybe that's a sign you know it's an immigration sign you you highlighted a a serious issue and at that moment the bullet Mr your you know hit your ear but but but you know M your your head I mean well the the amazing thing is that uh the sign I said bring down that sign and imig and it was literally about an

eighth of a second where it would be good and and after that it was going to be a disaster no matter which which way you were facing but it just had that that perfect angle which was exactly at this shooter very sad situation such a sad situation as you know we lost somebody that was great Corey who a firefighter a a great gentleman a great a great Trumper he was a a just a fantastic family and a fantastic man and a friend of mine came up Elon and said I'd like to give the family some kind of uh help and I said that's great he said do you mind I said I don't mind at all and he wrote out a check for a million dollars gave gave it to the wife and you know uh she said this is really nice but I'd rather have my husband back which is a nice thing for somebody

to say to be honest she's she's great the family is great and we raised a lot of money for them and for uh two other gentlemen were are unbelievable people also they were hit really badly they thought they were not going to make it and they did the doctors in the Butler area I tell you they were incredible they saved the two and uh they were really hit tough both of them equally uh and we thought we my first question was because I heard bullets flying over me and I said how many people were killed because we had a massive crowd there a tremendous yeah thousands and thousands of people and there was no land I mean it was just it was all people people so I said how many people have been killed because I knew there were other shots being fired sure and they

said uh we don't know yet but some people have been badly hurt and uh I have to give the Secret Service sniper they call him or Sharpshooter but sniper because he didn't know there was a problem uh he's been he's an extraordinary shot obviously and he didn't know there was a problem and he was able to pick it all out within 5 seconds and he used one bullet from very far away I guess probably about 400 yards the shooter was 130 but he was on the he was on the opposite side of the field and the podium and he saw the the smoke and the flame from the gun immediately recognized it and immediately took a shot and it was one perfect shot from very far away and if he if he didn't do that Elon he would have I mean if he would have a lot of people a lot more people

have been could have been badly hurt and killed so I I have to take my hat off to him because that's also a sural you know he's been with them for 23 years and there's he's never had anything like this and all of a sudden he has to act and it's a very tough thing to act and to be shooting somebody but he saw the uh he saw the gun saw the smoke saw the flame from the gun very far away I obviously has very good eyes he's got very good Vision which I assume you to having that particular work but he uh he took aim very quickly and it was they say it was approximately 5 seconds from long range one bullet if that didn't happen because the shooter had a lot of bullets he had a lot of a lot of cartridges up there with him so I mean I mean that that that's clearly

you know um you know he was he was very confident in taking that shot uh to stop the the assass the attempt at assassination um but but I mean there does seem to be I mean some pretty significant failings um elsewhere in the system like there's just no way that like how on Earth does a shooter get on a roof 130 yards away um that seems crazy um I think most people like are people are wondering how that how on Earth could such a thing happen well you know I view it as two ways there should have been nobody in the roof uh there were people because there were so many tens of thousands of people there there were people that were seeing him and there was one woman with a red shirt and uh Trump all over it and she's screaming that guy's got a gun you know you

saw it probably's a guy with a gun I it's like I'm just I'm just I guess I mean for my part and I think probably many members of the public are wondering how the heck are you know basically people wondering by pointing out there's a guy on the roof with a gun yeah um and they're seeing it but somehow that's it's not being addressed um that that does seem crazy well they they're going to learn from this the communication between the local police who sort of had an idea and then ultimately a man lifted himself up to the roof could barely do it because you know he was pulling himself up and yeah he saw the man with the gun the man with the gun pointed the gun at him he thought he was probably going to get shot but you know he was like pulling himself up

and because of that he couldn't get to his gun and he fell down actually very badly hurt his uh leg his ankle I hear very badly but but he fell down and he did you know from what I understand he did say there's a guy up there with a gun and the the shooting started very quickly after that I think it I think it forced the shooter to go maybe quicker you know he was supposed to be a very good shot yeah my sons uh Don and Eric they they can't believe what happened but they said from 130 yards a bad shot would hit that Target almost every time they said it's like in golf sinking a twoof foot putt yeah it's not a hard it's not a tough shot it's not a it's not a long shot the uh Secret Service person had the long shot he had a you know triple the distance actually

so uh you know it's it was a a terrible thing look uh it it's hard I have to say this about the Secret Service when I went down and you know I went down based on I think they're screaming uh but other people also because people saw this happen you know you had so many people one of the Miracles was that nobody ran I mean if if a gun goes off the crowd control people showed showed us this when guns go off and it does happen in stadiums at a soccer match or some kind of a match everybody flees they call it a stampede like cattle but everybody and a lot of people get killed with those stampedes we had more people than you'd have at you know some of these matches or or these games and uh nobody left you know you had a small group behind us in the grand stand

and that was full and you look at it as it was taking place and normally they'd be running they didn't leave they saw that I was hurt they saw a lot of blood and they saw that I went down and it's almost like they wanted to be with me well out front you had thousands tens of thousands of people you as far as the I could see you had people in Butler as far as the I could see and and uh and a lot of press too There Was You Know many cameras on watching this it's what made makes it so different because normally things happen that aren't good but you never have a picture of it here we have all these cameras shooting it so uh you know sort of amazing but one of the interesting things was that you didn't have anybody flee you didn't anybody Stampede nobody

and there was some people behind me they stood up and they're looking like you know I mean I tell you you want to have you want to have them in a fox hall with you I want to meet some of those people because it's so different from what you heard but so so I was down but the Secret Service guys there were bullets flying right over my head you could hear them go whizzing and and these guys came jumping on top of me you and a young lady Kate uh would jump they they moved so fast F and let me tell you that took tremendous courage now there was a lack of coordination uh there was you know obviously everybody understands that somebody that that building should have been covered and yeah I mean like I mean I mean looking at the the aial of views that building

would be like the number one spot for a sniper I it's like it's like the if you were to pick like what is the favorite if you so the goal is to assassinate what's your favorite spot that building other that building would be number one that would have been the you couldn't you can ask for a better location it's like that would have been this you know what people think is when the uh local policemen who by the way you know he really uh he did what he was supposed to do he couldn't hold on any longer and then when he got his head just peeking above this guy standing there with a gun at his head and when he fell down again hurt his ankle very badly but he was making the calls but what happened is the firing took place very soon so what they think is that

this guy ran to his site which he had all planned out with the gun uh he ran to the site and he started shooting fast and maybe that's why he uh well he sort of missed I mean you know he got could been it could have been U could have been a much bigger problem but he totally would have hit if if you hadn't turned your head so like you know there was a it it was a very near thing it was a miracle if I had to turn my head yeah I would not be talking to you right now as much as I like you exactly I would not I would not be talking talking to me from another round yeah that's right we'd be talking from a different place but uh it was a it was a you know it was a very terrible experience the the Butler Hospital they did such a great job uh the doctors were

so good everybody was so good there was there was a mistake if if if somebody knew cuz people were hearing that you know there was just a bad feeling that there was somebody was around you know that story now it's been and if somebody could have said because they've often times said you know like there'd be a lightning storm or something because I've done I think over 300 I think I did a lot more than that but we did a lot and often times they'll say Sir could you wait 10 minutes please sir could you wait 20 minutes there's a storm overhead or lightning or something right and that happens often and this would have been a perfect time for that to have happened but it it didn't it didn't get coordinated that was the problem well uh it was uh your I think

uh your your um actions in the in the heat of a fire in you know like what I I find admirable there was that you you can't fake bravery under such circumstances the courage is instinctual or it is not it's not a reared action and so I just want to say that uh I think a lot of people admire your your your courage Under Fire there and um yeah so thank you very much I I appreciate it I didn't I don't think I didn't think of it I just want wanted to get up and I wanted to stand up I wanted to let people know you know I felt I was good when when they were uh on top of me covering me actually very much covering me and and very bravely but uh I wanted to get up I said I want to get up and uh they wanted you know they had they have everything there they have

they wanted stretcher I didn't like the stretcher and I knew I was hit in the ear but I knew I wasn't hit anywhere else they felt I was hit someplace else because it was such a lot of blood and they were that I was hit someplace else and they were saying sir you you you were hitting more than the year I said nope I was hit in the air I want to get up let me get up and so we I got up and the crowd didn't know what to think I mean this was so so many people and they did you could see they were confused they didn't know what to think and I wanted to let them know I was okay it was very important for me to let them know that and they went wild you you've seen the after they didn't go wild when got up because they didn't know was I alive you really couldn't

tell when I stood up before the hand before the you know the fist in the air uh they didn't know if I was alive nobody did and uh when I put the fist up they were they were just relieved and happy and thrilled and the place went crazy it was pretty amazing it was a it was a terrible thing but it was incredbly moving yeah um well and and I mean speaking of the the the the sort of slide that got you to turn that uh saved your life really uh was the illegal immigration side maybe this maybe this it's worth talking about about that it was it was that slide that slide say illegal immigration saved my life you're right but to be that exact angle I mean that's that's a great one save saved by illegal imig you know the the incredible thing though when you talk

about the odds you had to be exactly at that angle but but the incredible thing is that the chart I use it less than 20% of the time it was just a moment it's always on my left never my right and it's always at the end of the speech so here we have it it's on the right not the left it's at the beginning not the end and even the people that put it up they were unprepared and they did a great job they got it up immediately fortunately but I looked to the right and and the bull and the bullet came whizzing by hitting my ear uh so it was amazing but when you think of the odds of that and you know that that normally you wouldn't use it normally I wouldn't have the thing and then you know it would have been a very different story it's it's very much I I say

an act of God it's a miracle that it happened and I'm honored by it I'm honored by it well well what what what were what were you about to say about illegal immigration before you were rudely interrupted well I was going to say how good the numbers were by the way we're going back to Butler and we're going to go back in October we're all set up and we're the people are fantastic in Butler it's a big it's a great area great these are incredible people uh like the three that in the case of Cory kill and the other two the the families are I get to know them a little bit and the families are great but we're going back to but and uh I think I'll probably start by saying uh as I was saying prior to being so horribly interrupted but yeah so rudely interrupted

by an assassination attempt no but the Jo some people have have noon the chart was just a chart that in my last week we had the best uh illegal uh immigration numbers meaning stopping uh it was at the lowest you've seen the chart it's become quite a famous but that was the lowest point ever recorded it was a really um I mean I was very proud of those numbers and then you see what happened with these people uh kamla and Joe you see what happened they just let it go I had remain in Mexico policies I had all these different policies that were so good uh guys like Tom homman and Brandon Jud from border patrol all these are all people that they've been on television they say it's the best number we've ever had we had so many different Jacks catch and release

in Mexico not the united we had catch and release in the United States we had it in Mexico we had so many things we had things where if people many people come in there they have contagious diseases we had everything passed if you have a contagious disease I'm sorry but we can we cannot allow you into the country so we were setting literally records and uh I all I was doing is showing that and I I Ed it sometimes and in this case I'm glad I used it I can tell you that but but there were fantastic numbers but I'm going to sleep with that chart always I'm going to I'll be sleeping with that chart that chart was uh was very important very important for a lot of reasons well I mean I mean would it be accurate to would it be accurate to say that you're supportive

of legal immigration um but that but we also need to shut down illegal immigration uh and especially unvetted illegal immigration because you you know and and and that's that's not the same as saying that everyone who's illegal immigrant is bad in fact um I think most people who are illegal immigrants are actually good but but you can't tell a difference unless there's a solid betting of who comes across the borderes is is does that is that represent your position I say it very simply they have to come in legally they have to be checked because look Kamala was the bord Z now she's denying it everything that I do she she's saying she was strong On the Border we're going to be strong well she doesn't have to say it she could close it up right now they could

they could do things right now it's horrible uh no tax on tips and all of a sudden she's making a speech and there will be no tax on tips I said that months ago and by the way they had just the opposite you know they had not only tax on tips but they hired 88,000 IRS agents and many of them were assigned to go get waitresses and caddies and all of this on tips they a policy they had a policy they they were really going to go after you and were really harassing people horribly and then all of a sudden for politics she says you know she comes out with with what I said which I think is terrible and I think it's also hitting them very hard these people are fake now they're also saying they did a good job in the Border we had the worst numbers in the history

of the world not of our country there's never been a country in history that has had a catastrophe like this we've had I believe and I think you believe this too you know you hear 12 milli I believe it's over 20 million people came into our country many coming from jails from prisons from from mental institutions or a bigger version of that is insane asylums and many are terrorists and I'll tell you what they're they're coming not just from South America they're coming from Africa they're coming from all over the world they're coming from Asia they're coming from the Middle East they're coming from countries that are uh stupidly and horribly bombing Israel October 7th they're coming from all over the world they and you know you look at it's so sad October

7th because it should have never happened it's so sad when you look at Ukraine it should have never happened we have a defective government these are defective people and they're not people that should be running it but where you see it the best is the Border because you had you have millions of people coming in a month and then she gets up and she tries to pretend like she's going to do something she had three and a half years and by the way they have another five months that they can do something but they won't do anything it's all talk she's incompetent and he's incompetent and frankly I think that she's more incompetent than he is and that's saying something because he's not too good yeah no I I think it's it is essential to have a secure border I

mean you're you're really not a country unless you're have a secure border um and and secure elections yeah absolutely secure elections and uh so so it's it's just essential to have a real border or or or we can function as a country and our service you know our Central Services are are being overwhelmed in a lot of cities um and uh and I but I as as we were talking about earlier I think uh having um a legal immigration Pro process that is uh smooth and efficient and done well and I you know speaking as someone who is illegal immigrant um and I think that that I mean like one way to think of it is who do you want on your team um you know who like who do you want on Team America and and I think we want to just say okay we we want to uh let in people who

are going to you know be great contributors to um our society and to our economy and uh you know and who do you want on the team and it's and and it's not to say that like in my opinion actually I'd say like probably most of the illegal immigrants actually are are are actually good hardworking people that's my opinion um but some are not and uh and and you just have this sort of adverse selection process where um you know if if if somebody's uh you know if somebody's like uh you know um has a career in in theft or robbery um I I don't understand what's taking them so long to get here um because we are in such a target-rich environment um I mean you know why AR they why aren't more people who have a career in you know bad things coming here sooner because

it's I mean it's a piece of cake to go rob uh you know houses in uh LA or New York uh compared to other parts of the world and um and and in a lot of places in America if if if you try to stop the person who's robbing you you'll be arrested so it's right I mean what what's happening with crime and our police are so good but they're not allowed to do their job but I have to tell you Elon I hate to say it because it's such a downer to say it I hate to say it I hate it but you have a lot of people that just shouldn't be I think it's a much bigger number than you think they're allowing again they're allowing people from their jails and if you were running one of these countries where they're coming from you would have had all of them as an example Venezuela

their crime is down 72% they're taking their drug dealers they're taking frankly their prisoners they're emptying out their prisons they're taking uh their criminals their murderers they're rapists and they're they're delivering them into that's what that's what C cter did yeah well they did on a much smaller scale you know it was a much smaller scale but this is a massive scale because this is being done worldwide but here's what's happening crime all over the world is down and way do you see the numbers that we have you know these this is is migrant crime this is crime that's that's going to be and I saw it today in New York where somebody was knifed where they uh raped the girlfriend of a man that stood there watching in New York in one of the shelters

and uh started pulling out the knives and bad things happened today but this is happening every day these are rough people these are people that are in jail for murder and all sorts of things and they're releasing them into our country and they're telling them if you come back we're going to kill you we're going to give you the death penalty or kill you so they don't want to come back but these are rough people these are these are criminals that make our criminals look like nice people and it's horrible what they're doing and and she's in charge of it because you know now she's trying to say she had nothing to do with it and she's such a liar because she was called the borders are the first day and it was on the headlines of every newspaper she's the

borders are and she never even went there she went to one location which had nothing to do with where the problem is you know she went in and out I guess cuz she was getting a lot of pressure but had nothing to do with the problem but she was the bordar and you people can't allow them to get away with their disinformation campaign now she's trying to say that uh she wasn't uh she wasn't really involved and the whole thing is horrible she was totally in charge she could have shut the border down without him he didn't know what he was doing anyway so he wouldn't have even known what happened you could shut the border down he wouldn't even know the difference but uh the fact is that she was bordar but if you don't have to call that the fact is you could

just call her she was in charge of the border and the Border was the worst ever it's it's simply not working whether whether it's by whether it's by whether it's a question of of intention or competence either way we we we we don't have a secure border and we have people streaming over like it looks like a world World War Z zombie apocalypse at times and you know sometimes you you you you got to sort of Wonder like is it real or not so I you know cuz you see things you're like is it real I so I went to the border at Eagle Pass and I saw for myself in Texas and I was like okay it's real I'm like seeing this in real time I actually posted the video like just live I just I just flew there one day and just to see hey is this is this is this made up or real

and I'm I'm just seeing people stream across the border and um and I have to say you know at least the people that I saw did not look friendly um you know so people can look at my video and say Hey you know does the people these people look friendly I don't look super friendly so these are people that Elon would not be the same man if he had to walk across the street and look these people in the eye these are rough people these are really rough people coming across and I know rough people and these are people that we don't want in our country and you know the Caravans are coming in and they're putting and and who's doing this is the heads of the countries and you would be doing it and so would I and everyone say oh what a terrible thing to say the fact

is it's brilliant for them because they're taking all there uh bad people really bad people and I hate to say this the reason the numbers are much bigger than you would think is they're also taking the nonproductive people now these aren't people that will kill you we have enough of them but these are people that are nonproductive they they are just not productive I mean for whatever reason they're not workers or they don't want to work or whatever and these countries are getting rid of nonproductive people in the Caravans in many cases and they're all also getting rid of their murderers and their drug dealers and the people that are really brutal people and they're coming into our country at levels that have never been seen before and I saw an ad just

before I got on the ad I'm walking over here and I saw an ad by Kamala saying how she is going to provide border security where has she been for three and a half years for three and a half years yeah have 20 million people it's a terrible yeah I think this frankly I think this is a fundamental existential issue for the United States um and if we have another four more years of of open borders and it's going to be even worse with another four more years it's going to be even worse than it's been for the past uh you know three and a half years uh I'm not sure we've got a country you don't have a country left Elon if they get in you will have 50 to 60 million people from all over the world not South America only you know we think of South America we think

of hondur and El Salvador Guatemala and Mexico you know the four but it's not that it's everywhere they're coming in from everywhere and I had to stay in Mex this is a this is a super important Point like people it's like well basically when I went down there I was like well where are people from it's like it's like almost no one was from Mexico it's just just it's just the Border it's just the border with Mexico but the people coming in it's it's it's Earth the rest of Earth and and and America is is only you know about four four or 5% of the population of Earth it it would only take a few per of the rest of Earth to overwhelm everything in we're already overwhelmed Elon it's we're overwhelmed you had to see the news tonight about New York New York and

I love that place and what they're doing to it is horrible what they're doing to it and all the courts do is they try and focus on Trump okay let's focus on Trump who did nothing wrong I complain about a rigged election Elon what's happened is UN un believable you have from Africa uh the Congo recently and their murderers and they dropped they they drop them they take them out of jails which is very expensive you know to maintain the jails although they don't do too much maintaining I can tell you but they take them out of jails prisons they take them out and they bring them to the United States they deposit them in the United States and say don't ever come back or you're going to be executed and they don't want to come back but they won't come back but

but they're coming from from Africa they're coming from Asia they're coming from the Middle East they're coming from South America they're coming from everywhere and they are a lot of really ones it's just a it's just it's just an everywhere on Earth uh thing and it's just it's just not possible for the United States to absorb you know everyone from Earth or or you know even a few percent of the rest of Earth it's just not possible so we're going to have that's that's just to finish this up we're going to have the largest deportation in history of this country and we have no choice otherwise we're going to have a country what they what they've done to our country think of it with with you know in Venezuela and in some of these other countries crime is

down 50 60 70 80% and you would be the same you would have you would I'll tell you what Venezuela has not gotten rid of all of them they've gotten rid of about 70% of their really bad people their jails are about 50% uh put into the United States same with other countries some 30% some are at 50% they're all different but the bottom line is they're all going to be at 100% why wouldn't you put 100% of and they doing it right now while this third rate phony candidate don't forget I beat I beat Biden uh he failed in the debate miserably and you know some people said oh gee it's too bad it's too bad he did so badly or I did well in the debate you know the first night they said wow one of the people at CNN said that was the greatest debate performance I've

ever witnessed and then two days later they didn't talk about that they just said he was bad but that's okay that's the way I get treated and I don't mind that at all what I can tell you is this we cannot have a Democrat we cannot have her she's incompetent she's as bad as Biden in a different look she hasn't done an interview since this whole uh scam started and and say what you want this was a coup this was a coup of a president of the United States he didn't want to leave and they said we can do it the nice or we can do it the hard way yeah I they just took him out back behind the shed and basically shot him oh what they did with this guy and I'm no fan of his and he was a horrible president the worst president in history and one of the reasons he

was so bad first of all the Israeli attack would have never happened Russia would never have attacked Ukraine and we'd have no inflation and we wouldn't have had the Afghanistan mess if you think of it well and we wouldn't have had Afghanistan but we think of it we you take a few of those events away and we have a different world we would also have no inflation was caused by oil yeah no no I think you make an excellent point here which is that um when other countries can you know that that are you know are thinking about invading or doing bad things uh when they're thinking about that they're thinking about okay what's the American president going to do and are do they fear the American president or is it someone they they do not respect or and do not

fear and I think they they do they do they would they rightfully be I mean you know look at that the footage of the assassination they're like okay you know president Trump is it's like don't mess with me I mean that's like whereas I think people are are not going to be and they obviously have not been at all intimidated by by Biden and they certainly will not be intimidated by by Kam and you have to really think about in the context of Global Security um that's that's that if the if the American president is someone someone that like you know evil dictators are scared of that makes a huge difference to the security of the world so I had a good relationship with Putin despite the Russia Russia Russia hoax that lasted for over two years just a hoax created

by Hillary Clinton and uh Adam Shifty shiff some just bad people you know just sick people frankly I mean shiff shiff is a sick person he's going to end up probably being a senator it's hard to believe the whole thing is hard to believe but uh you know they put our country in danger with that stuff too they actually when they make up stories and you have to fight your way out of it for a long time but I know Putin very well I got along with him very well he respected me and it's just one of those things and he would we would talk a lot about Ukraine it was the apple of his eye but I said don't ever do it don't ever do it you know I shut down nordstream too that was the Big Oil pipeline the biggest I think the biggest pipeline in the world going all over

Europe I shut it down by came and then they say I I you know I was I loved Russia I was a friend of Putin and I loved Russia now he actually said to me one time he said if you're my friend I'd hate to see you as an enemy I shut down his pipeline the biggest pipeline they were looking at that to fund and this this pathetic president gets in there and the first thing he did one of the early things he did is he shut down he he shut down keone XL Pipeline which is our pipeline that would have employed 48,000 people pipeline workers shuts it down that was you know a massive job that Obama refused to allow I allowed it in my first week because it was jobs and it moved oil and by the way in a much more environmentally friendly way it's underground it's not a

truck that catches on fire or a train that catches on fire but think of it he shut down the uh XL Pipeline the Keystone XL pipeline he shuts that down and he proves the Russian Pipeline yeah it doesn't make any sense it's like it's inconsistent um certainly the but I mean I think it's just worth emphasizing you know to listeners the that the the immense importance of of whether the United States president is intimidating or not intimidating um and how much that matters to Global Security um because there's some real tough characters out there and if they don't think the American president is tough they will do what they want to do I know every one of them and that puts that that it puts the whole world in danger El I know every one of them and I know

them well I know Putin I know president she I know Kim Jong-un of North Korea I know every one of them and let me tell you people will say oh this is terrible he said I'm not saying anything good or bad they're at the top of their game they're tough they're smart they're vicious and they're going to protect their country whether they love their country they probably do it's just a different form of love but they're going to protect their country but these are tough people at the top of their game and when they see a CALA or when they see uh Biden sleepy Joe they can't even believe it they can't believe this happened the all the stuff that you're seeing now all the horror that you look at Israel they're all waiting for an attack from Iran Iran would not

be attacking believe me you know when I was there and I say it with respect because I think we would have been good with Iran I don't want to do anything bad to Iran but they knew not to mess around Iran was because I told China if you buy from Iran oil it's all about the oil that's where the money is but if you buy oil from Iran you're not going to do any business with the United States and I meant it and they said we'll pass they didn't buy oil other countries likewise you want to buy you're not doing business with the United States and they they were at a point where they were they had no money for Hamas they had no money for Hezbollah they had no money for any of these instruments of Terror and it was amazing in fact there were articles when I was

leaving which is hard to believe actually especially when you look at what's happened to our country our country is so bad right now it's such a different place we were respected think of it four years ago we were so respected to a point where when I said don't buy oil they didn't buy oil but they had no money and Israel would have never been attacked it zero chance and again I said to Vladimir Putin I said don't do it you can't do it Vladimir you do it it's going to going to be a bad day you cannot do it and I told him things that what I do and he said no way and I said way and you know it's the last time we ever had the conversation he would he would never have done I got along well with him I hope to get along well with them again you know getting

along well with them is a good thing not a bad thing I got along well with Jong-un when I met with President Obama just before entering you know it's a sort of a ritual and sat down with him and we talked it was supposed to be for a very short period of time it turned out to be a long period of time I said what's the biggest problem he said North Korea I had that problem worked out very quickly it was nasty at the beginning with rocket man and you know all the different things but all of a sudden I got those some those were some epic tweets by the way no they were epic everything he said he said that he has a red button on his desk I said I have a red button on my desk too but my red button is much bigger and my red button works and then I called him

Little Rocket Man if Little Rocket Man anyway here's the bottom line all of a sudden I got a call from him and they said they want to meet they want to meet me and we met yeah as you remember we met in Singapore we met also in Vietnam and uh I got along with them great we were in no danger but President Obama President Obama thought we were G to end up in a war a nuclear war with him and let me tell you he's got a lot of nuclear stuff too he's got plenty of nuclear he can do plenty of damage so yes I mean it's because you know I mean people like like Kim Kim you know Kim on they respond to strength not weakness well he uh he and I got he and I had a good relationship remember I remember I met him and and we walked onto his land nobody ever walked onto

his land before I walked on I wouldn't say let's bring up secret service again I wouldn't say they were thrilled when I did that I walked onto his land and uh it was it was an amazing period but we were not in danger with him because of me you know I always say that we have enemies on the outside and we have enemies on the inside we have some really bad people in our government and people that are and controlling of the people I mean I mention names but I I don't I really don't want to give them the credit but we have some really bad and I say they're more dangerous than Russia and China if if you have a a smart president a president that gets it we are not in danger from those countries because they need us and they need our help I mean we forced Obama

if you think about it Obama and Biden and Bush to a certain extent in all fairness forced Russia and China together and if you're a history student the first thing you learn is you cannot let Russia and China align but then they also got if you take a look Iran and they have North Korea that's you know they caught the Access of Evil in the old days you had the Access of Evil well here we have a modern day Access of Evil these are powerful countries very heavy nuclear which is the biggest threat you know the biggest threat is not global warming where the ocean's going to rise one one8 of an inch over the next 400 years the big and you'll have more you'll have more ocean front property right the biggest threat is not that the biggest threat is nuclear warming

because we have five countries now that have significant nuclear power and we have to not allow anything to happen with stupid people like Biden you know Biden uh did something with Russia uh there was no chance of him ever going in and when I left and then then after I left they started forming big armies on their on the border with Ukraine right and I looked at that and I thought he was doing that because Putin's a good negotiator I thought he was doing that to negotiate but then Biden started saying such stupid things for instance he said that uh it can be a NATO country now put Russia for for as long as there's been NATO has said we're never going to agree to that and we go right up front and say that and we did things and said things through this

president with a low IQ very low IQ he had a low IQ 30 Years Ago by the way but now he might not even have a IQ at all there is no there's nothing on the board that goes this long he said things that were so stupid that that that war would have been that war had zero zero chance of happening if I were there zero chance he was saying everything the opposite everything the opposite and it's so sad because many more people have been killed in Ukraine than you read about you don't read about how Bloody it is and how DES hey look just in the two armies you lost a half a million people and uh and you know Ukraine's having a hard time Ukraine I don't know if you saw the article recently and it's true you don't hear the true story but if you think about it uh

Russia's gone you know Russia defeated Germany with us and they defeated Napoleon you know they've been around a long time they're a big fighting force and it's very unfair and Ukraine now doesn't have enough men they're now using young men and very old men to fight and it's it we're in a very bad position and I'm not going to blame exclusively but I can tell you I could have stopped that and a smart president could have stopped that it wouldn't have happened but we had a we had a man that actually made it it made it more prevalent it it it was so bad the words that he was using the stupid threats coming from a stupid face that that he was using I said this guy's going to cause us a war he's going to cause us and let me tell you it can lead to World War

II that can lead to World War II the Middle East can lead to we have numerous places that could end up in a World War II right now for no reason whatsoever I think you're right I think I think people under underrate the risk of World War III and it's just the the you know when when you're looking at the risk of global thermonuclear Warfare It's game over for Humanity and you know that's it's something that people have I think after the end of the Cold War people have become complacent about but they're actually have forgotten that there are currently a lot of nuclear missiles that that that are that that have targeting parameters for the United States other countries and one of the things we're going to do is we're going to build an iron Dome over us

we're you know Israel has it we're going to have the best Iron Dome in the world we need it and we're going to make it all in the United States but we're going to have we're going to have protection because it just takes one maniac to you know start something we're going to have protection and we're going to have why shouldn't we have an Iron Dome Israel has one some other places have one that nobody even knows about frankly but uh Israel has it we're going to have an iron dome but you know with all of that being said to me that's so important the most important but with all of that being said the election's coming up the people want to hear about the economy and the fact that they can't buy groceries because they don't have enough money to buy groceries

the inflation has killed them food prices are up 50 60 even 100% in some cases and this this stupid Administration allowed this to happen and it's a shame and that's the thing that people most care about in my opinion they care about the Border a lot and we discussed the border at Great length it's nice to have a forum like this where I can discuss something at length and by the way you think Biden could do this interview do you think that K could do this interview they would take a pass you they so they don't need Elon they don't need Elon screaming out questions it's it's pretty sad when you think that somebody that does this for a living can't answer a question or is afraid to do an interview and in her case with a very friendly interview she's got

all friendly interviewers it's pretty but the big thing now is the economy Elon and as much as I mean I view nuclear is the single most important thing but a lot of people don't a lot of people don't understand that but it doesn't have to if I understand that that's all you need because if I was President you're not going to have that kind of a problem but the the thing that they really is making them angry is what Kamala and Biden have allowed to happen to the economy it's a disaster with inflation the inflation it doesn't matter what you make the inflation is eating you alive if you're a worker or if you're a a uh just a a middle income person you can't afford you know four years ago five years ago people were saving a lot of money today they're using

all their money and borrowing money just to live it's it's a horrible thing that's happening and we'll end that Qui yeah a a lot of people just don't don't understand where inflation comes from um inflation comes from government overspending because the checks never bounce when it's written by the government so if the if if the government uh spends far more than it brings in that increases the money supply and if the money supply increases faster than the rate of goods and services that's inflation um so so really we need to have uh we need to reduce our govern spending um and we need to reexamine I think we I think we need like a government efficiency commission to say like hey where are we spending money that's sensible where is it not sensible um and

and we need to live within our our means we we we're currently adding I think a trillion dollars to the deficit uh every roughly every hundred days that's right um and you know the the interest payments on the national debt have now exceed the defense budget it's on the order of a trillion dollars it's interest and it's and it keeps it keeps growing I rebuilt our military largely rebuilt our military did a great job on it which was so important you know we had Jets we had Fighters that were uh and bombers that were 70 years old and we we did a great job in that then we by the way then we gave 85 billion of it to back to Afghanistan if you can believe it we gave them 85 billion you know they're one of the largest sellers of military equipment in the world

they're selling what we gave them that was one of the most embarrassing days in the history of our country but uh if you think about go let's go back to the uh the economy we have to bring Energy prices down energy started it the price of gasoline now your cars don't require too much gasoline so you know you're you have a good and you do make a great product I have to say I have to be honest with you that doesn't mean everybody should have an electric car but these are Minor Details but your your product is incredible but but the gasoline Elon is the the the cost of energy not only gasoline it's the cost of heating your house and cooling your house that has to come down it it's gone up 100% 150 and 200% and that has to come down when that comes down and

we're going to drill baby drill you know they stopped Drilling and then they went back to drilling because they went went back to the Trump policy but if they won the day after they get into office we're going to this country will go out of business because they're going to go to an energy policy that's not sustainable wind and different things you're not going to have anything and and I know you're a big fan of the AI and I have to say that Ai and this is shocking to me but AI requires twice the energy that the country already produces for everything so you're going to have to build we're going to have to build a lot of energy if our country will be competitive with China because that's our primary competitor for this on the AI you're going to need a

lot of electricity you're going to need tremendous electricity like almost double what we produce now for the whole country if you can believe it sure um well just going you know back to this like the this this basic thing which that people try to make it sound complicated but it's not but inflation is caused by government overspending um would would you would you agree that that we need to take a look at government spending and and and and have perhaps a government efficiency commission uh that that just look tries to make the spending sensible and so the country lives within it means just like just like a person does the waste is incredible and it's nobody negotiates prices uh you used to have a lot of people making Jets and you end up with two companies

and they'll probably try and merge at some point you you I mean I I wi through it like air for just a thing like Air Force One one of the first documents they asked me to sign a general walk said sir will you please sign this document what is it Air Force One that's with Boeing which is basically two planes 2747s and the price was $5.

7 billion doll for two planes now now they're highly sophisticated they're even nicer than your plane okay but much more sophisticated they're very I won't say what's on it but they got a lot of stuff on it anyway but it's 5. 7 listen that's a crazy number a crazy number but said I'm not going to pay 5.

7 I'm not going to do it I said who made the deal Obama and his people I said well then I know the deal is no good I'm not going to do it and over the course of about four weeks by my saying I'm not going to do it I got the price reduced by $1.

6 billion for the exact same plane other than we had a nicer paint job if you want to know the truth but for the exact same plane I got I saved one and I said to Boeing man you guys must make a lot of money if you can reduce the price by that but now what I do hear is that they're going back to the uh Biden Administration and wanting big cost overruns you know because they see these Dopey suckers in there and they'll end up getting some of the money back but I shaved it by $1.

6 billion doar for the exact same plan and and you can now take that and multiply that out times thousands of other items multiply numbers astronomical I agree with you well I mean if so so I mean I mean I think it would be great to just have a government efficiency commission that takes a look at at these things and and just ensures that the taxpayer money the the taxpayers hard-earned money is spent in a good way um and and and i' I'd be happy to help out on such a commission if it were form well you you're the greatest cutter I mean I look at what you do you walk in and you just say you want to quit they go on strike they I won't mention the name of the company but they go on strike and you say that's okay you're all gone you're all gone so every one

of you is gone and you are the greatest you would be very good oh you would love it but you know if you look at ARG be happy by the way congratulations I just looked at the number of people that are listening to you and I chat we'll quot a chat but uh congratulations this is very good I mean it's great it's and and you're an interesting character you know the uh new head of a place called Argentina and he was he's a big you know he's great and he's a big magga fan you know that he ran on magga and he took it to an extreme too he ran on magga and I hear he's doing really a terrific job it's called make Argentina great again it worked out perfectly he came in he bought a lot of hats he brought of but he's he's doing a big job he really cut and I'm hearing

they're starting to do pretty well inflation's getting down you know they had like 2,000% they had inflation like like not normal inflation they had the the real deal but we're going to have that pretty soon we we have I think we have the worst inflation we've had in a hundred years they say it's 48 years I don't believe it I think we have the worst they don't include a lot of the items that should be included you know yeah well it's it's it's it's just from from government overspending and not just not spending taxpayer money effectively and and having you know just depart like so many departments you can't even name them all um and what Malay is doing um is you know he's he's cutting government spending he's simplifying things he's uh having you're

putting in regulations that make sense and I and and and we're Argentina o overnight is experiencing uh a giant Improvement in prosperity but but it's also a lesson for the United States which is that um Argentina used to be one of the most prosperous countries in the world um you know in the I think in in the 30s 40s and and because of bad government policy it ruined the country and and if you take Venezuela for example Venezuela should be incredibly prosperous they they have you know phenomenal uh reserves of of everything oil everything and uh should be prosperous but if the government's wrong it it impoverishes the people and so I think we should not be complacent in the United States and thinking that and taking out prosperity for granted because

if if with government policy we can run the country into the ground and that that's that's just something people should bear in mind don't take prosperity for granted well well think of education so we're ranked at the bottom of every list of the top 40 we're ranked number 40 number 38 uh Norway uh Switzerland Sweden different countries are ranked good actually China's pretty close to the top they're a top six or seven but we're ranked at the bottom almost at the bottom 38 39 940 in other words horrible and yet we spend more per pupil than any other country in the world so we spend more and what I'm going to do one of the first acts and this is where I I need an Elon Musk I need somebody that has a lot of strength and courage and smarts I want to close

up Department of Education move education back to the states where where where States like Iowa where States like Idaho you know not every state will do great because states that basically aren't doing good now you look at Gavin nusum the governor of California he uh he's terrible he's does a terrible job so he's not going to do great with education but of the of the 50 I would bet that 35 would do great and 15 of them or you know 20 of them will be as good as Norway you know Norway is considered great uh you can name them I mean just they're so good some of these countries are so good but if if you go into some of these really well-run States you know we have states that don't know what debt is we have states that are have low taxes no debt everybody

working you know they're really well-run and maybe they have certain advantages in terms of location in terms of you know the land or the the sun the sun and the water and the whole thing you know there are a lot of advantages that some people but if you moved education back to the 50 you'll have some that won't do well but you'll have but they'll actually be forced to do better cu it'll be a pretty bad situation but but if you think about it you'll have some of these states I'll bet you'd have 30 35 States it'll be much better and you know what it'll cost less than half what it is in in Washington and these people don't care about students in these you know far away States and it would be it' be unbelievable yeah I think you're making a good point in

that um if the states have to have to if if each individual if each state has to compete against other states then then people will naturally U move to to states where it's better well like California you know as we said it's it's a badly Run State I could go through I got so many friends that are in those States even if they're Democrats I hate to mention certain States but Illinois badly run with pritzer he's a he's a real loser but but you know some of these places are just badly run but you know it's almost going to force them to run better and they won't do a good initially but but can you're not going to do worse than you're doing right now and I would say that the cost you would cut your cost by 50 or 60% and you'd have a little monitor you know

you want to make sure they're teaching English as an example you know give us a little English right sure yeah no but I mean I mean I mean some of these Governors are like are are doing so badly I mean they they got so many people moving out of their state they should they should get you- whole salesman of the Year award because they're driving so much uel it's actually amazing people people moving out is it amazing to you as a bus businessman that they can even survive like Illinois so many people are leaving and you wonder how do they survive I mean how do they survive uh I saw where you left California and you moved to Texas Texas does a great job uh but you know I mean I just wonder how do these states survive when big businesses a big oil company

just left California as you know and they moved to Texas how do these big States survive when they lose so many businesses and their taxes are already really high you know the taxes are among the highest taxes you you almost wonder how do they how do they continue on and in many cases the governors don't do a good job and their crime ridden places you wonder how do they continue to just go on it's it's not it's not a good situation I mean I think the thing that's the only thing that's going to force some of these states to change is if they risk bankruptcy and they're not getting bailed out by the federal government right well going to get changed you remember the area in California where they had that where I guess somebody had Sticky Fingers and they

stole a lot of money and uh they went into a form of chapter and it was very nasty for a period of time but now it's probably the most popular place in all of California so so you know at some point something like that may have to happen but the problem is uh you can't penalize people that loan money to the state when you have incompetent people like a pritsker look the family didn't want him in the family business and uh then he ends up being governor of Illinois so you know what is he going to be is he going to be a great governor and uh you know you have people I could name every one of them I got to know every one of these and some are very good and some are just horrible well I think that I mean that logic Point here to you know as you're saying

like the you know a lot of people are concerned about the economy a lot of people concerned about inflation and inflation is effectively a tax on people that that that save money and and for people that are working dayto day it's it's it's just it's just a form of Taxation um and uh and if if we can solve the government spending problem will solve the inflation problem which means people will have a better standard of living and that's that's a really big deal well the people that got hurt worst are the people that did it the way they were taught to do it all through you know their younger life and their their young life and their whole life the people that saved money and then they got no interest on their money and inflation d enoyed them and frankly

they were almost better off if they didn't do anything like that I mean those people have been absolutely decimated and we're going to bring those people back and help those people we've got to get the prices down you know when I look at bacon costing five four or five times more than it did a few years ago when when you look at some of the food products and and groceries people go they can't believe it they used to be able to buy a whole cart and today you know a lot of people just don't have the money they go in and they can't buy anything they they look at yeah it's sticker shock they call it sticker shock right I I think it really just come like I said I think just comes down to to to Really I guess two really two things which is is that if if you

solve government overspending you solve inflation which improves living advantage of the of the the average person and then and then if if you uh deregulate like have sensible regulations so because a lot of the regulations are nonsensical and and cause the cost to be extreme for no reason um and the but unless you've got effective deregulation like Reagan did did a great job on deregulation in the 80s but it's been 40 years since we hadn't at anyone really I mean during your Administration we made some progress but I think uh there opportunity to make I think radical progress with sensible regulation um and and and if those two things yeah those are the big deals we set a record we set a we did more deregulation and more uh restrictions on all of the

different businesses than any other president i c remember I had the rule for every one we put in you have to get rid of 10 or 12 and we we did radical cuts on all of that and a lot of that's being put back by this Administration and we did radical cuts on things that weren't necessary but we were we were all set you know we had the best economy ever maybe in the world and then what happened is co came in and we had to focus on that and nobody knew what it was and I always say I got good marks on economy good marks on Military we knocked out Isis we did so many different things we rebuilt but you know I never got the credit that we really deserved on what we did with with Co we never got the credit but uh we were if had that not happened the gift from

China from Wuhan uh came in from Wuhan the Wuhan La labs and I always said it and it turned out to be right but had that not had that not happened we were set to start reducing uh debt we're going to reduce taxes further I gave the largest tax cuts and we were going to reduce taxes still further for Middle inome people not only businesses but we did it for businesses because they're the ones that that's why we had the great job numbers but we were set to really start reducing debt and you know we we're sitting on the the biggest pile of liquid gold anywhere in the world bigger than Saudi Arabia bigger than Russia and we were going to drill and we were going to make so much money we were going to supply Europe with oil I had stopped the Russian Pipeline

and we were going to supply them with oil and gas we were G to we were gonna make a fortune and then uh the covid came in and we had to we really had to divert then what happened is when they came in you know we we kept a lot of businesses alive if I didn't do what we did we would have had a 1929 type depression but the problem is when Biden came in he got trillions of dollars and just started spending it stupidly you didn't need it anymore you know we got over that bad period where it was everybody was dying and feeling you know it was it was just not a good period interestingly uh you know during his administration many more people died during his administration of Co than during my Administration and we really got the brunt of it but people don't realize

more people died during his administration than ours but it diverted us from doing what I wanted to do but we had the greatest for you know almost three years we had great and you know that probably better than anybody so many of your friends said to me the best years we've ever had in business were during the Trump years and and also said that uh African-American uh Hispanic American were so incredible they were having the best Asian-American women men young people without a diploma young people that graduated from the best colleges from from MIT from the Wharton School from all of the great col colleges Harvard they were doing better and people without a diploma were doing better and everybody was was happy and then Co came and we had we had the problem

is they spent trillions and trillions of dollars they wasted they shouldn't have taken any money and we wouldn't be having inflation right now which is killing our country yeah yeah yeah absolutely I mean I should probably say something about like you know may my views on you know climate change and oil and gas um because uh I think it's probably different from what most people would assume um because I my My Views are actually pretty I think moderate in this regard which is that I I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry and the people that have worked very hard in those Industries to provide the necessary energy to to support the economy and and if we were to stop using oil and gas right now uh we would all be starving and the economy

would collapse uh so it's you know I don't think it's right to sort of vilify the oil and gas industry um and and I and I you know and the world the world has a certain demand for oil and gas and it's probably better if the United States provides that than than than some other countries um and and it would it would help with prosperity in the US um and at the same time obviously my view is is like we do over time want to move to um a sustainable energy economy because eventually you do run out of I mean you run out of oil and gas it's not there for it's not infinite um and there is there is some risk I think it's not the risk is not as as high as uh you know a lot of people say it is with respect to global warming but I think if if you if you just keep

increasing the post of million in the atmosphere uh long enough eventually it actually simply gets uncomfortable to uh to breathe people don't realize this if if the if you go to if you go past a thousand Poss million of of CO2 uh you start getting headaches and noria um and so we're we're now in the sort of 400 range we're adding I think about roughly two parts per million per year so I mean it still gives us so what it means like we still have quite a bit of time um but but so there's not like we don't need to to rush and and we don't need to like you know stop Farmers from farming or you know uh prevent people from having Stakes or basic stuff like that like like you leave the farmers alone I agree how crazy is that where you have Farmers that are

not allowed to farm anymore and have to get rid of their cattle and the whole the whole world is a little crazy but it's largely taken its lead from us I I do say though I've heard in terms of the fossil fuel because even to uh create your electric car and create the electricity you need it for the electric car you know fossil fuel is what really creates that at the generating plants and you know so you sort of can't get away from it at this moment I mean someday you might be able to but I do hear we have anywhere from 100 to 500 years left you know much of it hasn't even been found yet yeah but there are tremendous like anoir I got anoir in Alaska approved Ronald Reagan couldn't do it nobody could do it everybody tried nobody could do it I got it approved

the first thing that Biden did was unimo it it to get rid of it he uh ended it his uh his secretary went in and she ended it and what a what a disgrace that's andw that's bigger or they they think it could be bigger than so Saudi Arabia in Alaska could be bigger than Saudi Arabia but they went in and they terminated it and I'll get it going very quickly because not only is it big for Alaska I mean you talk about economic development that for the United States I mean that that is they say bigger than Saudi Arabia or the same size and pure really good stuff and you know they ended so I think we have you know perhaps hundreds of years left nobody really knows but during that time will come around that will be very good yeah well I mean my my estimate would

be you know a little more aggressive than that but it's it's not the sort of like we're all going to die in five years stuff that that's obviously BS um but I mean my view is like if you just look at sort of the POS million uh that increments every year you know you get sort of two or three POS for million every year of of CO2 u i mean my I I think some of that it's problematic if it accelerates if you start going from 203 to say five and then there may be some situations where uh you get uh a step change increase in the CO2 um and and I I think you we don't we don't want get too close to a thousand uh PPM because like that's that's actually makes it uncomfortable to to to to bre like just existing in in a th000 PPM CO2 is is uncomfortable that's that's

like a that's considered like an industrial Hazard right just so so it's you know that that's that's actually you start getting headaches and stuff so it's even without global warming it's not it's not comfortable so you you don't want to get too close to that but I mean I think we've got I think we want to just move over like and and if if I don't know 50 to 100 years from now we're um we're we're I don't know mostly sustainable I think that'll probably be okay um so it's it's it's not like the the house is on on fire immediately but it I think it it is something we we need to to move towards and on you know on balance it's probably better to move they're faster than slower but but like like I said without vilifying the oil and gas industry uh and and

and without causing hardship in the short term I think this can be done um with without you know people can still have you know a stake and they can still drive gas in cars and they you know it's it's it's okay it's like it's not I don't think we should valify people for it but I think we should just just generally lean in the direction of of sustainability um and uh I I actually think solar is is going to be a majority of of Earth's uh energy generation uh in the future and it's certainly trending that way and and so you get the solar power um comine that with with with batteries so because obviously the sun doesn't shine at night and uh and then you use that to charge the electric cars and you have a long-term sustainable solution and you know that

that's what Tesla is trying to move things towards and I think we've made a lot of progress progress in that regard but when you look at our cars we we we like we don't believe that environmentalism that caring about the environment should should mean that you have to suffer so we make sure that our cars are are beautiful that they drive well if they're fast they're you know sexy I mean they're they're cool in fact literally I mean the sexy joke Model S model 3 Model X and why spells out sexy it was probably most expensive joke out there um but I you know I just I don't know like easy humor you know so um and but but I'm I'm I I'm a big fan of like let's have an inspiring future and let's uh let's work towards you know a better future and and and we can

do so without demonizing people right I'm I'm okay you know it's very interesting uh you use the word global warming and today they use the word climate change because you know you have some places that go up and you so they were getting themselves in a little trouble with the word global warming because not every place is warming some places are going the opposite direction but uh you know I'm sort of waiting for you to come up with solar panels on the roofs of your cars and on the trunks of the cars and it just seems like something that at some point you will come up with I'm sure you'll be the first but it would seem that a solar panel on on the roofs you know on flat surfaces on certain surfaces might be good at least in certain areas of the country

where you have the or the world where you have the Sun but I would I would think and I have no idea because that's not my world but I would think that this would be uh something that would be interesting but you know the one thing that I don't understand is that people talk about global warming or they talk about climate change but they never talk about nuclear warming and to me that's an immediate problem because you have as I said five countries we have major nuclear and and you know probably some others are getting there and that's very dangerous that's where you need a strong American president because you just you don't want to have this proliferation but you have five countries and getting more you know China is much less than us right now but they're

they're going to catch us sooner than people think they're way lower Russia and us are number one and I we're sort of tied and China is far behind but they're developing at a level that you know you're not surprised to hear very fast it's gonna they'll end up catching up maybe even surpassing but to me the biggest problem is not uh climate change it's not and and everything's you know a problem but it's degrees to me the big problem is the nuclear power the power of nuclear is so great and when I talk about I'll prevent World I'll prevent World War III uh I will but but the truth is that you have to because this is no longer army tanks going back and forth and shooting at each other this is yeah a level of Destruction and power that nobody's ever seen

before yeah and actually there's there's the bad side of nulear which is nuclear war very bad side but there's there's also I think um nuclear electricity generation is underrated um and it's actually you know people have this fear of of nuclear um nuclear electricity Generation Um but but it's actually one of the safest forms of electricity generation it's it's just a huge misunderstanding um and uh if you look at the injuries and desk you know caused by say I mean I'm not trying to pick on call mining but just any kind of mining operation um and uh there's a certain number of injuries and deaths per year um and you compare that to nuclear nuclear is actually way better um so it's it's underrated as a as an electricity source and I think it's it's something

that's worth reconsidering but there's so much regulation that people can't get it done um so that you know maybe they'll have to change the name the name is just it's a rough name there are some areas like like when you see what happened bad we have to Rebrand it we'll have to give it a good name we'll name it after you or something you know um no it has hey it has a branding problem you know when you see what happened it does have a branding problem when you see what happened in Japan where they say you won't be able to go on the land for about 3,000 years did you ever say that and in Russia where they had the problem where they you know the there's a lot of bad things happened and they have a problem and they say that in 2,000 years people will start

to occupy the land again you know you realize it's pretty bad true but there's you're right about it it's aming it's actually not that bad so so like after Fukushima happened in Japan like people were asking me in California you know are we worried about like a nuclear Cloud coming from Japan I'm like no that's crazy it's it's actually it's not even dangerous in Fukushima I actually flew there and and and ate locally grown vegetables on TV to prove it um and and and I donated a a a solar water treatment yeah solar power system for a water treatment plant and um yeah but you haven't been feeling so well lately and I'm worried about it no no but I mean I'm only it's fine you know it's it's like uh you know Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed but now they're

they're like full cities again so it's not something that you know it's not it's not as scary as people think basically but um let's see I mean I mean are there some other topics we should touch on um oh you know like lawfare I think you know we need to be concerned about what they've done to this country obviously yeah yeah well we just won the big case in Florida this was a Biden Administration did something that's never been done in this uh country and that's go after their political opponent me with his nonsense uh and just nonsense in the big case in Florida we won but they've always they always pick a judge and a jur and they use local Das they use the local U uh attorney generals like fonnie you know fonnie spelled f ni I fonny and it's it's all

a big hoax and it's all run from there like in Manhattan uh the one of the top people from the justice department went in Ran Manhattan ran the state the Leticia James deal was run by a person from the Department of Justice Biden they've never done this before and they set up a very bad precedent it it's it's called lawfare Warfare it's uh it's a terrible thing and never happened in our country it does happen in banana republics and third world countries but it's never happened and the incredible thing is it actually drove my numbers up because people see you know fortunately I have a platform like you or you know in all fairness like a conversation like this where I can talk about it and people understand I mean you you fight for election integrity and

you end up getting indicted because you're fighting for election integrity and when the day comes that you can't fight for election Integrity you don't have a country anymore so what happens what happens is they went after their political opponent me now Biden's a you know close to vegetable stage in my opinion okay I I looked at him today on the beach and I said why would anybody allow him the guy could barely walk why would anybody allow him does he have a political advisor that think this looks good uh you know he thinks this looks good because it looks so bad and it's it's ridiculous I mean and he's been doing that for a long time you know he can't lift the chair the chair weighs about 3 ounces it's meant for children and old people to lift and he

can't lift it the whole thing is crazy well it's clearly I mean it's clearly like we just don't have a president right now you don't have a president and she's going to be worse than him because she is a San Francisco liberal who destroyed San Francisco and then as attorney general she destroyed California you talk about location and we're talking about the sun and the water and all there's nothing better than California she has destroyed that she was the original da she was the original in San Francisco she was the original attorney general in California what she has done to California is well you know better than I do you just left California for a lot of those reasons and what she's done with with crime with with cashless baale where you kill somebody

I mean we have states there you kill somebody and they let you out right away I mean you you don't have to even put up and then they never find the people unless they kill again and then they let them out again are country is becoming a very dangerous place and she is a radical left San Francisco liberal and now she's trying to protect now she's looking like she's she wants to be more Trump than Trump if that's possible I don't think it's possible but she wants to be more Trump and Trump yeah I want a wall I you know she wants to release all the prisoners that are in detention and some of these guys are really bad that just came out today she wants she doesn't want to build the wall even though the walls work walls and Wheels you know in your business

everything you do is obsolete almost well not the tunnels but everything is obsolete even your rocket ships they like a month later they're obsolete you find a better way to the only thing that's not obsolete is a wall and a wheel and the wall you know I built hundreds of miles of wall and that's why we had such good numbers I was going to add 200 miles we bought it we could have flipped it flipped it up in three weeks and they sold it for 5 cents on the dollar that meant I said wow that means that they actually do want to have open borders she wants to have open borders and now she's going like she's tough on the on the border it's such a lie yeah this is simply not true this is simply not true everybody knows it's true it's it's a disgrace that she

can say it no I mean obviously what what's happening sort of overnight is they're they're rewriting history and um and making uh kamla sound like a moderate when in fact she is far left like far far left worse than Bernie she is considered more liberal by far than Bernie Sanders she's a radical left lunatic and if she's going to be our president very quickly you're not going to have a country anymore and she'll go back to all of the things that she believes in she believes in defunding the police she believes in no fracking zero you no now all of a sudden she's saying no I I will I really want to see fracking the day the if they got in the day she got in she'll end fracking and by the way if people didn't think that the lunatics that that really believe

in that uh they won't vote for her you know um like like the Palestinians and Israel she is so anti-israel and she's bad for both Biden actually did something that was impossible both sides hate him you know both sides that was a hard thing to do unification yeah no no I mean I mean the you know Netanyahu came to give a talk to a joint Senate and House uh sitting and I was there and and and comma stood him up you know what does that say I think it's highly disrespectful and I say if you're a Jewish person or if you believe in Israel if you're a a person that you know is a very pro Israel if you vote for her it's worse than Biden and Biden was bad but if you vote for her you ought to have your head examined and you see tonight I mean as we're doing this

I'm seeing reports coming that they expect an attack tonight or tomorrow from hundreds and maybe thousands of rockets you know they're Iron Dome as they call it as we all call it but their Shield that they build uh that can be uh swamped we'll use the term that's appropriate swamp but they swamp it by shooting enough missiles you know this better than anybody by shooting enough missiles they can't defend themselves you know they just obliterate the whole place and that's what some people people think they're looking to do and we have no leadership there's no respect for the United States of America with these people and I'm telling you she'll be worse than him because she's a believer in being radical left and he wasn't I I think you're right I mean you

really it's it's important for the for the public that may be listening to this to say to look at Comm track record you know uh before the last like month and say uh is that a track record you agree with um and I think if you're an independ dependent moderate you definitely would not agree with it um because it is her behavior has been farle and we're seeing just an overnight propaganda attempt to rewrite history and make it sound like H is moderate when she in in fact is is not moderate well her uh her running mate uh approved signed into legislation tampons in boys bathrooms okay now that's all I have to hear tampons and boys bathrooms and that means she believes in that too I mean picked this guy because he was the closest to a lot of people thought

she'd pick sort of the opposite but she picked an anti-israel radical left person but she is far worse they say than Bernie Sanders if we have her as a president if we have a Democrat at this moment as a president I don't think our country can survive I I think it's I think it's a massive I think I think we're in massive trouble uh frankly with with a k Administration and that's my honest opinion um and uh and I I think uh I think really it's essential that that you win for the good of the country uh for this election and I mean that's I'm just stating my opinion um now you know you may have seen this but I I got a letter from the the the EU commission like saying you know to not have disinformation on the like during this discussion that we're having

like and you know this like there's there's a lot of attempts to do censorship and to force censorship even on Americans uh from other countries and um you know what do you think about that well I know the uh European Union very well they take great advantage of the United States in trade as you know we uh through a different for NATO uh we protect them and yet uh if you build a car in the United States you can't sell it in Europe you just can't sell it it's it's impossible uh the same thing with our Farmers our Farmers find it very difficult to do business you know we have a deficit with them of $250 billion which people don't know it sounds so nice to European Union but let me tell you they're they're uh not as tough as China but they're bad and I let

them know it and that's probably why they notified you no they don't treat our country well we defend them you know uh with Ukraine so we're in for 2 50 billion and they're in for about 71 billion and they have the same size it's if you add up the European nations that you know in terms of an economy it's about the same size when you say as us and they're and and and they're in much greater risk they they're right there we have an ocean separating us from in this case the enemy would be Russia used to be for the Soviet Union but let's assume they're close enough and what happens is uh they're in for 70 something million I I think I think even less than that billion and we're in for about 250 billion and it could be a lot higher than that and I say why

aren't you going to equalize why aren't they paying what we're paying and they're in much more you know they're it's much more important for them because of the fact that you know they're right near there I mean they're all sort of in that location we're not but they should they should and I did it with NATO we were there were only seven countries that were paid up in NATO out of 28 at the time and the United States was subsid the United States was subsidizing NATO tremendously subsidizing NATO and I said I went in and I said you got to pay up if you don't pay up we're not going to defend you any longer I took a lot of heat but you know what happened billions and billions of dollars came flowing in and yeah I I think I think a lot of the public isn't

isn't aware of the fact that the United States pays a disproportionate share of of the NATO expenses and then we get taken advantage of on trade so think about it yeah well I mean the point of NATO is defending Europe and it's uh you know it it's like then okay well why why is the United States paying disproportionately more to defend Europe than Europe that doesn't make sense that's unfair um and that that is an appropriate thing to address well you know when you talk about cost cutting and savings and everything else I mean honestly look there's nobody that feels worse about the Ukraine situation than I do because I know it would have never happened I know zalinski he was very honorable to me because when they went with the Russia hoax and they said

I had a phone call with him he said it was a perfect phone call it was a great phone call he could have grandstand it and you know said oh he he was very threatening he said no it was a very nice phone call I called him up to congratulate him on his win and you end up getting impeached because these people are lunatics you know I was talking about the difference from the people within and the enemies on the outside in many cases the people from within are more dangerous for our country than the Russians and the chin if you have a smart president you're not going to have a problem with them you're going to make you're going to do things yeah now they've taken advantage of us incredibly but you're going to do things with the right person yeah well I I I

think I think it's obvious that you're you're you're a Believer and an advocate of of free speech because during your first time as president you were attacked relentlessly every day often very unfairly with f you know with with false attacks and and you didn't try to shut down the media you didn't try to uh inhibit their freedom of speech and I think that's his lot well the good thing is that you and I have and some people very few uh we can get the word out although sometimes it's hard because they don't want to print it you know like like we're having a great conversation right now Camala wouldn't have this conversation she can't because she's not smart you know she's not a smart person by the way she can't have this conversation and Biden we don't

even have to talk about it I mean he couldn't have this conversation he he would have given up in the first half of a question he would have walked out he would have said where am I where am I going so anyway but no he wouldn't have this that's true not a lot of people would have this conversation but you know we cover a lot of territory but the beauty is that you you know we can have a conversation and I get it out without because I get this is a really big point you can actually have a conversation with you yeah it's nice isn't it and you can't have a conversation with Biden or Kamala it's like not uh it's not possible that's true so it's like talking to an NPC so it's just impossible but think of it we need a man or person who's unbelievably sharp

in order to stop all the nuclear danger and all the dangers that I'm talking about and I got along with all the you know I got along with Kim Jong-un we had dinner we had everything and he he really liked me and I got along with him really well by the way he's he's the absolute boss over there you know a lot of people said oh do you think he really let me tell you I saw things that you don't want to know about he is the boss but you we had a good relationship and and he doesn't like uh Biden he considers him a stupid man he said he's a stupid man well at least he speaks his mind but you know in this country you're not sort of allowed to say it but I guess you are you should be allowed to say it it's true but we need really we need smart people and we

need people that have an ability to lead and she doesn't have that ability can you imagine now you know chairman she very well can you imagine her and him negotiating or even standing together it it is the whole concept is ridic she is terrible she's terrible but she's getting a free ride I saw a picture of her on Time Magazine today she looks like the most beautiful actress ever to live I it was a drawing and uh actually she looked very much like our great first lady Milani she look she didn't look she didn't look like Camila that's right but of course she's a beautiful woman so we'll leave it at that right yeah well you know maybe like I think it's part of what you know people in America want to you know people in America want want to feel excited and

inspired about the future I want to feel like the future is going to be better than the past and that this that America is going to do things that are greater than uh we've done in the past reach New Heights that make you proud to be an American and uh and excited about the future um they want the American dream back you know they want the American dream back more important than anything else it's it's like you don't have that today because the people they've been just sucked they see incompetent people running our you know the the Biden thing is very interesting people just found him to be incompetent and when I debated him I was like is this for real it was yeah it's just it was just absurd um but I youan know I think there there are like you know some

some you know Grand projects that that that we we could do I mean I think like you know we could we could build a base on the moon we could send American astronuts to Mars we we could uh bu build highspeed connections that are you know more advanced than anything else in the world between our cities so people have fast transport um you know it's possible to solve traffic with tunnels we we you know we already made pro great progress in Vegas doing that and um you know and and and just do things that are exciting and inspiring to make the future feel like it's better than the past well I saw what you did in Vegas and I'll tell you it was amazing I I got to see I took a big Glimpse at it and it's incredible what you you know it's incredible and you could

do that all over you could do that all over it's uh it's deep yeah you don't even need much structure you know assuming you're in the right area no it's it's straightforward it's amazing so and and like I think we could do some some things that like like China's got incredible highspeed Rail between its cities but I think it's actually possible um with with with tunnels if if with deregulation with with an ability to actually where like legal to to to actually do the tunnels think you can have highspeed uh tunnels that are actually better uh than than than anything else in the world for high-speed transport between cities and that would be something that you know Americans can say wow okay we've got something that's cooler than anyone else in the world

that's that's the kind of thing that makes you proud to be in America much safer than surface trains where there is a danger there you know with people with crazy people it's much safer much better uh and you know it's sad because I've seen some of the greatest trains I I find it fascinating and I've seen the systems and how they work and the bullet trains they call them I guess and they they go unbelievably fast unbelievably comfortable with no problems and we don't have anything like that in this country not even close and it doesn't make sense that we don't doesn't make sense yeah I I I think also like there there's you know I just I'm kind of hopping on the excess regulation but I think something that um that I think people can generally understand

is that what happens with laws and regulations is that they just there's more and more of them every year and unless there's a process to clean them up eventually everything becomes illegal and and that actually SL slow it slows down the development of new technologies I mean if you take the sort of like I think we there there there's room for some reform at the at the FDA uh for improving the speed with which we you know approve uh drugs that that could help save lives and improve people's lives um and I work very hard on that you know we got that down to to the lowest number ever and we got uh Therapeutics approved in the FDA that people can't even believe the speed but I I took them on I I don't think they like me too much but I got things approved

in the FDA at at at numbers that they wouldn't believe and you know it's a very bureaucratic group actually it's a fine group of people in many cases I got to know a lot of them but I was pushing them really hard for regenerant for so many different things that that were really pretty amazing but but the FDA takes too long they would it's 12 years to get a product approved I got it down to four and I got some things done very quickly but it's uh it's really something that is going to have to be worked on because it takes too long just takes too long yeah it just takes too long and it's you you end up in the same with with the approval but just it's just you know it takes years instead of something that that I think could potentially take months that impr

improves people's lives I think you know and and but but it I I just wanted to hop on this point that like there has to be an active process uh for reducing rules and regulations because otherwise they they just keep building up every year and you get like hardening of the arteries and eventually everything's illegal or takes forever um and and then and then we we we just um we just aify as a society we just uh we can't make any progress and and that's it's a really big deal you know Elon just getting back to the FDA for one second I got something done called right to try this is where you can go in and if you're terminally ill you can use a Space Age uh you know medicine or whatever it may be we have the best doctors the best labs in the world we really

do and but people would go to other countries because you couldn't use this the product even if they thought it worked because it's going through the FDA I got it approved where you can you you basically look nobody want the doctors didn't want it because of the liability the country didn't want it our country because they didn't want to get sued these are people terminally ill the insurance companies didn't want it and the pharmaceutical companies nobody wanted it I got everybody into a room and we came up with an agreement that you won't get sued and also they didn't want it on their record if somebody's terminally ill and they die after taking a drug they didn't want that on their record so we set a second a separate list if somebody was so it wouldn't

count as a negative okay and as you know we got it done we have saved right to try they've been trying to get this done for 58 years and it sounds simple but it wasn't because you know I mean you know the insurance companies nobody wanted it but we got it done somebody signs you sign a document that you're not going to sue the insurance companies the country you're not going to sue anybody and we got it done and we're saving tens of thousands of lives right to try hopefully you never need it but if you do you don't have to travel to Asia you know people if they had money they go to Asia they go to Europe if they don't have money they go home and die that's what happened they'd go home and die yeah well well I mean and actually to give Europe some some

props here it's like if a drug is improved approved in the in in Europe which has a crazy amount of regulations it should obviously be approved in the US I mean they got more regulations than we do so what why would a drug be approved in Europe and not in the US that that's crazy well we did it we did something that really they've been trying to do it for 50 years and they just couldn't get it done and I got it done and it's uh it's really something but you're right some people go to Europe because a drug isn't approved here but it's approved in Europe and it's a drug that generally speaking would work it's pretty crazy absolutely you're right and I I think so as long as people are properly informed of the pros and cons and like these are the risk the

you know those are the risk and like you make your own decision um that's that Mak sense well I think just you know in sort of closing up and by the way I'm looking at the numbers you get a lot of people listening I hope you don't get nervous because you got a lot of people listening to you right now like 60 million or something what is that number that's crazy it's amazing how you can see that right away how many what is the number wow what is it well I think in terms of people that's bigger than you said you you said 25 and you're more than much more than double that number 25 million I think you're going to be 60 or 70 and I guess over a period of time hey that's I congratulate you do I get paid for this or not well I I think actually in terms of the

number of people that will will hear this conversation um over the next uh you know few days two weeks uh it it's going to be hundreds of that's what they say yeah that's good well look it's an honor yeah I but I I just asked this are you better off now or were you better off when I was President nobody's better off now people you know we put out polls on that and nobody's better off now inflation has killed it and you know they also feel very unsafe you look at what's going on with a lot of different things you look at the riots we had at the colleges over I mean it's ridiculous but right all of the rights they just feel unsafe and now they really feel unsafe because you have a new form of crime it's called migrant crime crime I call it Biden migrant

crime maybe I'll call it Cala migrant crime but you know I mean with all these things I always try to like try to get to the ground Truth by just asking people and you know my my mom lives in New York and I I was like you know Mom you know do you know have you any of your friends you know been attacked or assaulted and she said yeah three of her friends in three separate incidents were assaulted just just just in recent months just walking around the streets of New York and and I and and I said well did what what happened to the people that sold them oh nothing they they got away like and and they they just know always get away nothing's and they don't even they don't even bother reporting it because there's not they know that there's not they're not

going to you know people are not going to get prosecuted they just they just let you know violent criminals out in New York the only one that gets prosecuted is Donald Trump they don't get they prosecute Trump yeah I mean it's it's it's just obviously messed up terrible if violent criminals are being are being getting off Scot um and and and meanwhile the you know New York spending massive resources Prosecuting you and it's like what's this you know and and I think the sort of sensible public said looks at this and says what the heck's going on here this is obviously abuse the legal system um you know the the legal system is supposed to be protecting the public from um violent criminals and it it should be obviously allowing the public to make their own

decision about who should be president as opposed to you know some uh you know legal case once they start this precedent because this can go on with the next one I mean this is a very bad precedent what they're doing in terms of you know going after their political opponent and that's all it is it's going after their political opponent and and then you get a judge who's you know a strong Democrat and I'm being nice when I say that in many cases crooked as hell but you get a judge and you go into an area where a republican gets three or 4% of the vote and you know you'll have a jury pool with uh people that hate Republicans or hate it could also be the other way though because it could start the other way in areas where they hate Democrats and you get

into a Pandora's Box it's a very dangerous thing for this country and a very dangerous thing even for the state New York City is Los New York city and state lose a lot of business over what they did to me because these people say we don't want that to happen to us that's no justice system you have an unfair system of justice and it's costing New York State a tremendous amount of money people are leaving and companies are leaving and they won't come back so you know all of that stuff is important but the economy now is the big thing and we can turn that economy up so fast and people are going to be back again we're going to get rid of I think there's lot a lot of opportunity absolutely absolutely so and I just want I want to congratulate you you've done

an amazing job you are you have definitely got a fertile mind you know we can talk you and I can talk about rocket it's kind of you to say well tunnels we can talk about tunnels and Rockets and and uh electric cars so many things and now you're you're into the AI and that's going to be another Beauty I say so it's uh yeah it's an amazing it's an amazing thing you've done Elon it's an amazing thing and I congratulate you I mean thank you and well I mean I just say here you know here's to an exciting inspiring future that people can look forward to and be optimistic and excited about what happens next and that's uh the kind of future that I think uh will bring as president and that's why I endorse you well I appreciate that that endorsement meant a lot

to me not all endorsements mean that much to be honest your endorsement meant a lot and you know we have a a phrase make America great again it's pretty simple but it really says that we want to make America great again and we can do it we can do it now but if we were going to suffer another four years like we've suffered for the last four years I'm not sure the country can ever come back that's how bad it is it's so bad we have to we have to do a lot think it's a big risk it's a very real risk and and you know I just like to to note to people listening like I I've not been very political before and and if just if you look at my TR my record it's I've actually been I'm I'm I'm not like sometime they try to paint me as like a far right guy which is absurd

because I'm like making electric vehicles and you know solar and batteries helping them with the environment and uh and and I actually I I uh you know I I supported Obama I stood in line for six hours to shake Obama's hand when when he was for president and you know so it's not like I'm like some sort of died in the wool long-term Republican I'm actually I call myself uh you know historically a moderate Dem Democrat and but now I feel like we're really at at a critical juncture for the country um and uh you know I think a lot of people thought you know that Biden Administration would be a moderate Administration but it's not and and obviously that we're just going to see it um an even F left uh Administration with with kamla that's that's my honest opinion

I mean her dad is literally I mean she was brought up as a as an actual her dad is is is a Marxist Economist that's you can Google it I mean it's not a we're not making this up you know um that's how she was brought up so and and we we we just we want to have a future that is prosperous and and I I think we're just at this critical juncture and um and it I think this is a case of the America uh is is going to add a fork in the road and true um and I think it will take it will take if the path to like you are the path to prosperity and I think Kamala is the opposite then that's my I mean that's my honest opinion I'm I'm going to get attacked like crazy and you know I've also experienced quite a bit of lowf far myself um and uh but I'm just trying to tell

people my honest opinion and and I I haven't been active in really active in politics before um and I'm just trying to point out that my track record historically has been moderate if not moderate slightly left and and uh so this is to people out there who are in the moderate Camp to say I think you should support um Donald Trump for president um and and I I think it's actually a very important Junction the road and and we're deep trouble if they if if if it goes the other way well I want to thank you and you know I actually always did think of you as somewhat left I must say that so it's uh it's even more of an honor to have your endorsement I know how strong you feel about it but you know when you think of her uh San Francisco 15 years ago I had a great

friend Bob Tish he said it's the greatest city in America and now it's you it's not it's almost not livable there and California likewise and she was involved in the destruction of San Francisco and the destruction of California and she will be involved in the destruction of our country if people are so unwise as to elect her and I hope that doesn't happen and I hope the elections are going to be run honestly and we're going to turn this country around we're going to we're going to do things that and we can do it fairly quickly and we have to get rid of the criminals that have been you know given to us by other countries as they laugh they laugh at us they think we're stupid to accept these people these are radical Stone Cold Killers in many case cases

and terrorists and they're in our country by the hundreds of thousands yeah and we have to take them out yeah I mean if if I could it perhaps you know I think the these are issues that I think most people in America uh would would agree with which is that we want safe and Clean Cities we want secure borders uh we want sensible government spending we want to restore both the perception and the reality of respect in the in the in the judicial system you know stop the lawfare um and uh and I think that that's like and how are how are those even right-wing positions I think those are just that's just common sense and and that's uh I mean would you agree with that 100% I I don't understand you know the whole they call it Progressive they don't like the word

liberal anymore but call it liberal or Progressive I don't understand how somebody could say that it's okay for them to empty prisons into our country and again I told you their crime rates all over the world are going way down which makes sense in fact the next time what we'll do is if something happens with this election which would be a horror show we'll meet the next time in Venezuela because it'll be a far safer place to meet than our country okay so we'll go you and I will go and we'll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela because that's what's happening their crime rates coming down and our crime rates going through the roof and it's so simple and you haven't seen anything yet because these people have come into our country and they're just getting

acclimated and they don't know about being politically correct law enforcement or lack of law enforcement and our police I I have to just with this we have great police we have great law enforcement but they're not allowed to do their job they have to be able to do their job without being destroyed well absolutely and it's it's obviously demoralizing if you're a police officer risking your life uh to you know to you know to arrest uh violent criminals who could kill you and do kill you sometimes um and then you you arrest the violent criminal and then the The Da you know doesn't prosecute and and that's let the guy out well then like why why should police officer risk their life uh to arrest a violent felon well even worse nothing's going to happen even

worse they prosecute the police officer they they go after a and they prosecute the police officer and they take away his pension they take away his job he loses his family he loses his house well I I I thought I thought it was very telling like incredibly telling that you know when that that was that case where uh you know sort of a gang of thugs beat up uh police officers I think it was in Times Square in New York and and and then nothing happened to those guys they were they were let out zero bail and I think a bunch of them were given free tickets to California well what is I mean that that is that is a that is a gross indignity against the United States and and that's how I mean this is insane like have we lost all Pride what what that how can such

a thing be allowed to occur I've never seen anything you know we've see where they get shot it's very dangerous profession but something they're very proud of and they want to be able to do their job but I've seen them get shot I've seen a lot of but I've never seen where these guys are standing in the middle of a big street everybody watching them and they're literally boxing like punching stand up fighting a police officer there were two of them and you had about six of these guys and they're punching the hell out of them and in their own country they would be dead if they did that they'd be shot they would be shot instantly and you know they come from these countries and it's taking them a while to realize that we don't do that in this country but

in their own country if they stood on a street and had a fight with a police officer they would be shot there's no political correctness and it's such a sad it's such a sad thing to see and that's the reason you have crime by the way because we don't do anything about it yeah we we just cannot have a situation where our police officers beat beaten up on camera uh by you know a a gang of illegal immigrants and then nothing happens to to to the guys that beat beat up the cops I mean and they're let out this is unacceptable we're going to change it and we're going to get them out of the country you know when I first got involved they said you couldn't get them back to these countries you couldn't take them back in the case of uh Guatemala Honduras El Salvador

some others you couldn't get her back and I said really oh you can't get it back because under uh Obama he couldn't get him back they'd put up they'd fly him in and they'd put planes on the runways in these countries so you couldn't land a plane they bring them back and the general told me the generals told me you sir we can't bring them back the countries won't accept MS-13 gang members they won't accept them and I said really how much do we pay these various countries in terms of economic aid which is also somewhat ridiculous and the answer was $750 million I said good tell them they're in default they're delinquent we're not going to do we're not paying them anymore because they won't accept and you know what happened they all called me every one of

them they said we would be honored to take them back sir we would be honored it was so easy but it's one of those things and we got them back we took in so many you know MS13 is probably the worst gangs in the world they're the most vicious violent we took them out of here by the thousands and got them out of here and their countries took them back and because I said you're not getting any more economic aid and once I said that they were nice they wouldn't take them back for Obama they wouldn't take them back for anybody and now we have a problem because we have this guy and they again they don't take him back anymore with the Biden because they don't respect him yeah yeah so it's just it's just got to it's it's got to be done we we just can't can't have

uh whether they're citizens or not citizens we can't have because they one pro prosecuted citizens either not not just not just legals so uh that if it's you can't have violent you repeat violent offenders that are not that that that don't get um incarcerated right because will they will obviously by definition continue to uh to to uh you know hurt people and and and I I think where part of this comes from is that there's um and I you know I do sort of consider myself liberal in some ways I mean I it's just that you want to have empathy for people obviously you want to have empathy for people I totally agree with that you want to have empathy but you also have to have empathy for the victims of the criminals and if you if you just have empathy for the

criminals it's it's actually shallow empathy it's not real you're not thinking you're not you have one layer deep uh empathy you got to say like what if you don't incarcerate this person who are they going to uh hurt who are they might kill someone they might rap rape someone if if you don't incarcerate them you have to have empathy for the victims and there's a lack of empathy for the victims of the criminals and and too much empathy for the criminals it doesn't make sense I that's why you want to have deep empathy for society as a whole not shallow empathy for criminals and we have to give our police officers the dignity and the respect that they deserve and we have to let them do their job they they can do a great job but we have to let them do their

job and if we don't do that we you know it's it's going to all it's going to all disappear there's never been a society like this where you're allowed to do anything you want and nothing happens and I'm talking about violent crime and it's going to get more violent because these are really really violent people people and we're going to get them out of our country and we're going to get them back to where because they were sent here by the presidents and by the various people that run those countries and I know every one of those guys and they're smart people and they're StreetWise people and they really think that the USA is stupid they think we're run by stupid people and they happen to be right but when I was there we had no problem we got them out

we took out thousands of MS13 gang members we brought them back and now again they it's the same old story we don't do it and they actually gave them a big increase in Aid they they raised it up to billions of dollars and they get nothing for it so you know it's it's uh I hope everybody's going to vote for Trump and we're going to get this country straight and I didn't need this I'm like I didn't need this I had a very nice life I didn't need to to go through court systems and go through all the other stuff and run at the same time I have to run I have to go through fake trials with in some cases corrupt judges totally corrupt judges I didn't need it I had a nice life I have great locations I have beautiful oceans that I have places you know I this was

but I felt it was important and if I had to do if I had to do it over again you probably think I'm crazy for doing it actually but if I had to do it over again I would have done it over again because this is so much more important than me or my life this is we're going to save this country this country is going down and these people are bad people that were running against and they're Liars they make statements they they they do things that are so bad they they say they're going to make a strong border they say they've been great on the border and they've been the worst in history they say they're going to stop CRI the facts speak for themselves so incredible speak themselves it's got G to the point where where people just don't even bother reporting

crime in a lot of CI because they know nothing that's going to happen um you know that's what I hear anecdotally from from people all the time um so you know it's just uh you know my values I'm just saying to to people out there like my you know the things I I think are important for the future is like we've got to have safe cities we got to have secure borders we got to have senseful spending and and we have and we've got to have de you know deregulation and um so we can have a prosperous future and then we want to have some exciting you know sort of moonshot projects that that people can get fired up about and um you know that's that's the future I'm looking for and um you know I'm Pro environment um but but I'm I'm not against uh you know I'm not like

I don't think we should vilify the oil and gas industry because they're they're keeping civilization going right now and uh but I do think we want to move you know you know a reasonable speed towards uh a sustainable energy economy those those are my values and and and I think um you know and and and so I mean that's uh why I'm supporting you for president you know well I appreciate we're going to make we're going to give incentive to companies to come into our country not to leave our country we're going to be giving tremendous incentives we want companies to build here not to build in other locations and we want to create jobs and again it's about the American dream you don't hear about the American dream anymore Elon you don't hear you're the American

dream in the TRU sense but you don't hear about the American dream anymore and you're going to hear about it people they need that incentive to go out and and do it and they're they're going to love their lives I mean they're going to love they're going to look forward to getting up in the morning and going to you know going to a job that they love not a job that they can't stand or not any job at all where they have no money where they literally have no money and then they end up with violence and lots of other problems no we're going to do we're going to do some great things and I learned a lot in the first we had a great economy and all of that we rebuilt the military we did so much but I also learned and I also learned the best people I learned the

good people the the smart people the dumb people the people that can do things the people you know you learn when I first came in I I tell people I was in Washington DC only 17 times according to the fake news media I was in 17 times I never stayed over and you don't know people you rely on other people to give you names and then you realize the people you relied on weren't so good now we had great people but we also had some where I wouldn't have you know used them had I known now I know everybody and I think we're going to uh we're going to really turn things around fast we have no choice otherwise we're not going to have a country and I really appreciate this has been to me it's been a lot of fun being with you you're an amazing guy you've done an

incredible job and a great inspiration to people a great inspiration and I hope you keep going and just uh continue to do well and we're going to have a big election coming up and I think November 5th will be the most important day in the history of our country I think that election will be the most important election and I think it'll end up being maybe the most important day in the history of our country because if we don't win I just feel so sorry for every everybody no we're I think we're at at a folk in the road of Destiny of of civilization and um and I think we need what it comes down to thank you very much Elon it's a great honor and we'll we'll do it again sometime and uh it's been really fun and I hope you got a lot of viewers I hear you got

a lot but I hope you I know you got a lot of them so uh I appreciate it I'll see you soon all right sounds good thank you thank you Elan thank you very much bye