你穿着短衫是在特别庆祝什么吗，嗯，不，我只是想穿着这些紧身裤显得性感一点，配上，你知道的，绝妙的红色，还有那些目标，呃，“美好时光”房间现在有将近 6 000 人，好吧，再等一分钟，因为我们承诺 10 点开始，我想还会有一些人陆续进来，然后你就会，你就会开始，这对你来说应该会是历史性的，呃，第一次，还有某位了不起的人，好吧，顺便说一下，嗯，你能让他，来自 Robinhood 的弗拉德，哇，[音乐] 好的，各位，呃，感谢大家加入我们，这真的是历史性的，呃，一期节目，嗯，我马上就会介绍我们非常非常，呃，特别的嘉宾，呃，但先快速介绍一下其他的

核武器，呃，我们有杰克，嗯，这真的很有趣，呃，你知道，我们等了一整天，这是通往 10 p. 最漫长的路。

m，因为我们实在等不及要开始了，嗯，我希望结束时你也能像我们一样觉得这么有趣，第一个给你的问题是，我们什么时候能到火星 [音乐] 大致处于太阳系的同一个象限，以及我们可以进行年龄行星转移的地方，而且，呃，所以大约 6 个月前我们有过一次，大约 1 年半后还会有另一次，所以算算看，你知道，我不知道，呃，5 年半，5 年半，那么从现在到那个时间点需要做什么，比如你认为有哪些里程碑，这是真的吗，再过 5 年我们会登陆火星，嗯，我们要制造一种像飞机一样的社会玩法，航空飞行的成本是，嗯，其中的组成部分是燃料，而且，嗯，你不能每次都把火箭扔掉

然后你还要进行轨道加注，这样你就可以把飞船向上延伸到，呃，然后再发送另一条深色木材运输推进剂，这样你就能装载，嗯，几乎能接受推进剂，然后前往火星，而，呃，如果，如果你有一枚大型、完全按月可重复使用、具备上方加注能力，并使用，嗯，高效率、低成本推进剂的火箭，那么你就可以前往火星，然后最后还有一件事，就是在火星这里，你需要在当地，呃，生产推进剂，嗯，这里的任何东西遍布大气层，呃，把它与水冰 H2O 结合，生成 CH4 甲烷和氧气，如果你具备这些要素，我希望成为多种植者，而我们在火星上有一项自我维持的研究，我认为这是我们所能做的最重要的事情之一

以确保意识的长期存在，是的，我想，是的，这说得通，抱歉，我来说吧，是的，你经常谈到这一点，也就是，你知道，扩大你的意识范围，以及它如何与多家庭生命联系在一起，你能解释一下这对你意味着什么，以及它为什么对你很重要吗，呃，当然，嗯，这一切都毫无意义吗，我实际上因此变得相当沮丧，人们谈论它，然后让我走出来的东西是读了这本《银河系漫游指南》，嗯，他基本上指出，宇宙就是答案，而真正困难的部分是弄清楚该对作为答案的宇宙提出什么问题，嗯，从答案是问题中容易的部分这一事实来确定

关于困难的部分，所以，为了让我们更好地理解该问什么问题，或者理解这一切究竟是什么，我们必须扩大意识的范围和规模，这样我们就能更好地弄清楚同时有多少问题，嗯，出于外部或内部的原因，而且，而且那就是所有文明都会经历，嗯，技术复杂性，嗯，因为全球化，所以我认为，在地球 45 亿年的历史上，这是第一次有可能将生命扩展到地球之外，嗯，并让生命可能成为行星性的，而这个机会窗口可能会关闭很长时间，我希望它是这样，或者它也可能只开放很短时间，嗯，我认为我们明智的做法是，假设它只开放很短时间，嗯

这不是悲观主义，但我，你知道，你必须说，比如有某种可能告诉你只有很短时间，而我们应该利用这个短暂开启的窗口，在这里我们可以转移生命、运输生命，让生命成为多行星的，而人类在这个过程中本质上是生命的代理者，我认为我们几乎有义务，呃，确保地球上的生物延续下去，呃，即使地球上出现一次协作，正如我所说，它可能是人为的，也可能是，呃，像自然灾难，如果你看看化石，是的，我想，是的，我想，你知道，这一切都说得通，而且我想我们以前听你谈过这个，我还有另一个问题，就是，你知道，当你到达那里，你知道，我们必须建立整个社会，我们

必须在那里建立文明，嗯，在你的设想中，整个事情会如何运作，比如，你知道，从在火星上拥有互联网连接意味着什么，嗯，一直到服装之类的，而我不会自以为是地规定那里应该发生什么，我认为重要的部分只是我们把人送到那里，并把建立一个自我维持的文明所必需的设备送到那里，嗯，至少建立一座自我维持的城市，而我认为，我们何时能跨过这个，这个特定大过滤器的伟大文化，其关键门槛是，嗯，实现充分的自我维持，使得如果来自地球的飞船出于任何原因停止抵达，它可能是某种大规模事件，也可能不是什么，我是说，地球文明的内容随着一声巨响或一种武器，而但是

无论哪种情况，如果飞船停止从火星来，火星会不会灭绝，嗯，而莫斯科尼缺少一个小小的成分门槛，即自我维持，嗯，而且我们能否在某场灾难或文明逐渐衰退、导致飞船无法前往那里之前做到这一点，那就是，那就是，那就是关键门槛，让你自己畅想接下来的几十年，比如你会，你会把什么视为成功，比如说他们熬过最初的，你知道，5 年，甚至最初的 10 年，比如你认为 10 年后、20 年后、然后 30 年后，火星上可能建成什么，然后在最初之后，嗯，[音乐] 呃，不，那会很危险，呃，是艰苦的工作，嗯，你会身处那里的边疆，呃，你知道，一场伟大的冒险

嗯，但它不会是一件奢华的事情，这是肯定的，持续前进，呃，创造必需品，嗯，你知道，我们需要一座铁矿石精炼厂，以及工业的所有基础设施，以确保火星是一颗微妙维持的行星，嗯，随着时间推移，这会花上一段时间，但，呃，你可以对这颗行星进行地球化改造，让它成为地球生命，嗯，大多数人正在让它升温，所以，是的，所以，你知道，当你谈到这个时，我是说，老实说，我想到的是某种尚武文明的想法，你知道，尽管它显然是被输入地球的，但出于必要，它会迅速演化得强韧得多，而刚刚离开我脑海的导弹形象是，呃，古希腊的斯巴达人，嗯，你是否认为，你是否认为，你是否认为这种矢量

文明会以不同方式展开吗，这是启动不同文明所遇困难的结果，是的，是的，绝对如此，事实是你每 2 年才能去一次火星，而且那是一段 6 个月、6 个月的旅程，尽管我认为随着时间推移，我们有可能把它缩短到低至 1 个月，当，呃，地球位于太阳相对于火星的另一边时，你无法前往火星，比如，你知道，无论你做什么，时代尤其会阻塞你的心脏，所以，呃，一群人大约每 2 年抵达一次，嗯，以确保我们所知的意识长期延续，嗯，因为就我们所能判断的而言，我们是唯一的，嗯，精致的，没看到任何迹象表明，呃，星期四存在任何外星人协会，我

会，我会第一个立刻跳进去，但我看到有这样的问题要问你证据，因为过去 1 年里有多起被报道的 UFO 目击事件，还有那个飞过我们太阳系的神秘物体，嗯，无法用其他方式解释，嗯，而通过其他方式得出的可能解释比外星技术更有可能，所以人们说他们在签署，图片的分辨率至少需要达到，比如 7 11 atm，好的，水平，嗯，嗯，如果他们在年满 18 岁，或者，你知道，22 岁时开始来找你，说，你知道，爸爸，你知道，你知道，你把我们种到了火星，而大概有外国，嗯，控制着宇宙，你会怎么回应，嗯，我是说，我是说，从，呃，香料控制宇宙，而且

如果模因是加了香料的，那些手段，我是说，这里面确实有一点真相，因为，比如，比如你怎么，你知道，是什么，事物怎么会变得让人们感兴趣，而它意味着，像，实际上是一种相当复杂的交流形式，就像一张图片可能表达 10 把落下的剑，嗯，你知道，它是一幅包含大量含义的复杂图片，嗯，而且它，你知道，立意上是有趣的，呃，所以，你知道，我影响了人们，所以，是的，嗯，你是怎么变得这么擅长它们的，我是说，嗯，我记得很多年前关注你，从，呃，我猜，呃，可能，嗯，我是说，你知道，如果你回头看我早期、非常早期的推文，严格来说，我当时就在 Twitter 上，我想是在非常早期，那时他们只有大约 10 000、不到 10 000 名用户，呃，但后来，就像

人们就只是在发推，比如他们在大学街，呃，星巴克喝了什么拿铁，而我当时就想，我根本不知道这个，所以后来我删掉了我的 Twitter 账号，嗯，而你现在是在关注或创建哪些东西，现在你觉得哪些有意思，嗯，我觉得其中一些，然后有些是别人发给我的，我有一些相当厉害的游戏经销商，对，火星上有评论吗，等等等等，你会有一个很好的团队经销商，会有我的朋友，迈克是个很好的游戏经销商，还有，呃，克莱尔也是，还有，呃，雅科，以及其他好几个，其实相当多，我个人很可能要为非常有趣的新闻负责，以及为什么人们应该在那里工作，对于不了解它的人来说，我觉得那真的很酷，比如，你知道

仅仅是它的可能性，这真的非常棒，再多告诉我们一些，你知道，有很多工程师正在这个，嗯，这个 Clubhouse 上收听，呃，你知道，Neuralink 是什么，我们为什么应该关心它，它能实现什么，当然，那么，嗯，长期来看，好吧，所以新链接从我的一个担忧中迈步，呃，当时我试图弄清楚，即使在一种善意的 AI 情景下，我们至少要怎样才能一起搭上这趟车，所以，嗯，我是说，如果它一直在关注，对，密切关注，它应该正在显著改善，嗯，你知道，如果你觉得，比如说，假设 gp1 加 gmt 对比 gp3，以及它改善得有多么彻底，嗯，还有就像，你知道，深度思维们，而且我是说，我认为他们基本上已经没有可以获胜的游戏了，嗯，重要的是，比如说 Tesla 实际上拥有，我认为，一个

世界上最强的 AI 团队之一，但他的 AIT 专注于现实世界的可用性，嗯，所以就是真正在用 AI 构建，呃，视觉感知和控制，但即使在一种善意的 AI 情景下，假设，比如说，FBI 就是非常想对我们特别友好并让我们开心，我们要怎样保持相关性并举行会议，至少一起搭上这趟车，就我们能避免糟糕情景的程度而言，这一直是一个好的情景，只要我们能把，呃，人类的集体意志与人工智能的结果以及以那种方式开发的东西结合起来，我认为那大概会是一个更好的情景，因为无法有效地把人类的集体油料与那个结果结合起来，所以，嗯，所以最后，死亡变得有点绝望，但你已经拥有一个第三层的

数字层，你有你的那种限制系统，也就是你的原始驱动力，以及，呃，欲望和反应，呃，然后你有你的大脑皮层，它就像长期规划和思考，嗯，那是2个生物层，然后还有一个第三层，第3层，也就是数字层，而你已经以手机、计算机和所有应用程序的形式拥有它了，嗯，相比没有那些，呃，认知增强功能的人类，你要强大得多，但你的大脑皮层与你的额外压力层之间的带宽非常慢，而实际上，随着手机的冒险，嗯，它甚至变得更慢了，所以如果你，如果你在用拇指输入，速率是多少，所以，所以，所以我们需要提高带宽，嗯，通过直接神经接口，我们可以

将你的大脑皮层与你的数字领地层之间的带宽提高许多个数量级，至少1000倍，或者也许10 000倍或更多，我们也可以，嗯，用多得多的时间思考有趣的事情，而不是把复杂的思维结构压缩成文字，这也，这也获得非常低的剪切率，嗯，然后让别人接收那些文字，把它们解压缩，然后，然后再把文字发回给你，嗯，所以有一个关于脑力和压缩、解压缩的巨大问题，嗯，而且我们可以持续处于，呃，不同的概念上，因此，如果你有一个神经链接，通常是你的长度，你就能进行，呃，概念心灵感应，呃，在那里你有一系列复杂的，一个复杂的概念系列，然后直接以未压缩的形式传输它们

给另一个，第一，大幅提高沟通质量和沟通速度，所以，嗯，还有其他某种相当疯狂的事情可以做，比如你大概可以在这里保存状态，而你不会完全相同，所以你，你知道，比转移少一点，但你也可以说，也可以说，当你早晨醒来时，你与昨天并不完全相同，这一点也可以说是真的，嗯，或者1个月前的你与今天这一年的你并不相同，细胞已经死亡，嗯，记忆细胞的记忆已经注明了如此多的力量和治疗记忆，所以无论如何，重点是，比如，你不会，呃，你可以，它可能类似于电子游戏，就像一种游戏情景，你能够恢复，上传你的上一个状态，对，有点像超级

碳，嗯，也许会有一些记忆，但我会，但大部分会在这里，所以现在那是发射代码方面的东西，短期内，这个想法实际上只是处理，呃，脑损伤或脊柱损伤，并且，嗯，你知道，通过，通过一只植入的鞋来弥补某人失去的任何能力，所以我们首先要做的是一种无线隔间，它将用来控制计算机或鼠标或他们的手机，或者实际上任何设备，呃，只需，只需通过思考，嗯，而这显然会成为巨大的促成因素，让你对他们来说容易得多，嗯，这种设备曾经有过某种原始版本，有一次像是有电线从你的头里想着出来，但它并非始终有效，而且你无法把它带回家，所以只要基本上拥有它们

我想我喜欢它，Apple Watch、手机、各种各样的电脑，那么实际上它们会非常适合，嗯，所以是的，我是说，我们可能会发布一些、一些展示进展的新视频，也许呃在1个月左右后，而且呃因为我们已经有了，比如一只、一只头骨里装有无线植入物和微小导线的猴子，呃它可以用意念玩电子游戏，而且你甚至看不出神经植入物被放在了哪里，所以美国农业部来检查了我们的设施，我们的猴子设施，她说那就像是她整个职业生涯中见过的最好的赞助设施，早期应用实际上只会面向，你知道，遭受过严重脑损伤的人，嗯，比如植入物的价值就是会

是巨大的，嗯，[音乐] 最初的手术会充分披露，比如风险和一切，所以我们测试了植入、移除和再次植入，可以说，当然很棒，嗯，抱歉，嗯，我之前提到了孩子，事实证明我有一个非常呃聪明而好奇的乐趣，嗯，他到处爬，试图弄明白一切，并尽可能快地学习尽可能多的东西，比如在，你知道，以我们现在知道的一切和我们拥有的各种现代工具来看，在当今世界，思考如何教育一个5岁孩子的最佳方式是什么，没错，教育一个5岁孩子，然后考虑他在接下来的，你知道，5年或10年间的某种身份认同，最佳方式是什么，比如什么、什么样的

项目，你认为一个孩子理想情况下应该参加什么，好吧，据我观察，我的孩子大多是由青年团体和作家教育的，嗯，然后，你知道，我猜还有同学，我猜也有他们的课程，但是，嗯，从他们上网所花的时间来看，似乎他们的大部分教育实际上来自网络，嗯，我是说，我认为总体而言，对教育来说，你要让它尽可能有趣，如果我们要解释为什么要教你这个，以及它为什么相关，嗯，我是说，我们能够，嗯，忘记那些不相关或相关概率低、低的事情，这是有道理的，比如否则人们会记住各种对我们的未来非常重要的荒谬事情，所以除非、除非相关性得到明确确立

嗯，那么人们将很难记住它在哪里发现自然，因为它看起来无关紧要，嗯，它可能相关，但如果法律向他们解释，他们不会知道，嗯，然后还有，如果你想要某种引人投入的问题解决方式，某种用于解决问题的引人投入的叙事，比如 [音乐] 在，嗯，这比方说开一门扳手课或一门螺丝刀课要好得多，就从一个问题开始，然后说，我需要什么标题来解决这个问题，这就确立了真正的相关性，并给出了一条引人入胜的小时线索，看起来如果你有某种足够精心设计的项目，你知道，你就可以、你可以规定大量要做的主题，最终以某种方式把它与，你知道，一些真正

实际上，你知道，有趣的很棒，嗯，如果是铸造发动机，你知道，那是什么，你怎样达到更高的转速，或者一个，你知道，更好的压缩比，嗯，你知道，我正在用，比如呃，嗯，变成你对父母有什么建议，下一个是，你在这里拥有，你知道，多得我脑袋都停不下来的公司，为什么世界拥有，而这并不是想听起来，你知道，像精神变态一样，但为什么世界拥有更多，嗯，你，我的人生中有相当漫长的必需之事，它们非常痛苦和艰难，而我不确定我会，我确信人们会想那样做，你知道，嗯，嗯，对于想创办初创公司的创业者，你有什么鼓励的话，而我的回答是，如果你需要鼓励的话，就不要创办初创公司，而最终

嗯，在，嗯，只做一个简短的近期快速回顾，这是，呃，呃，独一无二的埃隆·马斯克第1次上 Clubhouse，而这是我们每天都会做的一档节目，我知道你们很多人都在试图找到通往分流房间的路径。你怎么看加密货币？你怎么看比特币？你怎么看其他的，呃，是的，我得留意我在这里说的话，因为其中一些东西确实能撼动市场，嗯，我的很多朋友都尝试过，他有一个比特币蛋糕，一个上面有类似比特币符号的蛋糕，他在2013年喂了我一块比特币蛋糕。

所以，我是说，很明显，我至少应该在8年前为比特币而战，传统的呃金融人士，你知道，所以，嗯，而且最有娱乐性的结果往往最有可能，可以说最有娱乐性的结果和最具讽刺意味的结果将是狗狗币未来成为地球的货币，哦我的天，嗯，那太疯狂了，嗯，现在坐在我们房子外面，嗯，尤其是谈到所有技术和自动驾驶方面的事情时，很多人都非常感兴趣，好吧，那么你应该问我电池本身的未来，嗯，未来几年，嗯，好吧，是的，我是说，我认为，我是说，Tesla的目标是加速可持续能源的影响，嗯，所以为了做到这一点，我们必须制造很多汽车，我们必须让

它们，呃，越来越买得起，而我们的粗略目标是，我们希望人们，嗯，最终每年制造2000万辆汽车，原因是道路上有20亿辆活跃的汽车和卡车，而除非你改变现有清洁的1%，否则你并没有真正产生影响，当然还要尽可能快、尽可能多地从供应商那里生产，然后，但即便如此也不够，所以我们实际上也将建造，呃，它们的速率，嗯，所以松下，嗯，藻类和JHDL，然后，你知道，为了进一步提高加速稳定能源，我们正在制造自己的电芯，嗯，而且，嗯，我对此相当、相当兴奋，然后无论如何，我想你可以预期复合年增长可能会加速，呃，至少在愿望层面上

那是我们的目标，而且，然后把它与自主功能结合起来，这就是一个非常有力的故事，因为一旦你拥有自主功能或自动驾驶汽车，你就会大幅提高任何不同汽车的效用，嗯，你知道，一辆典型的汽车大约行驶 12 英里 sr 12，1 周 12 小时，具体取决于情况，你大约是 1 周 12 小时，而 1 周有 168 小时，1 周，所以很可能是 1 周中 1/3 的小时数之类的，嗯，所以也许它们每周使用 60 小时，而不是 12 小时。

所以基本上，每提高资产利用率，嗯，对停车位和停车库之类的需求都会少得多，所以，嗯，这本身对环境是有益的，嗯，但总体来说，拥有大量汽车乘以，呃，激励时间自动驾驶，我认为正是为什么，嗯，许多投资者认为Tesla与其现状相符的核心，嗯，这直接关系到生存空间、生命获救和伤害，每年约有100万人死于车祸，每年约有1000万人严重受伤，呃，所以那是对更好事物的追求，嗯，如果自动驾驶在这里变成发生了，很多航班将在线路和燃料中得到挽救，生活会变得更好，你知道，你在不久前创造了生活，当时你基本上，你知道，说得温和些，批评了

[音乐]，嗯，是这样，嗯，嗯，首先，我知道我喜欢务农，我猜，你知道，因为，你知道，对于前往约书亚空间站的SpaceX龙飞船，我们为了在真实世界的道路上驾驶，嗯，你，你必须解决，呃，视觉问题，你基本上得有某种视觉理解，用被动光学，嗯，嗯，被动光学光子审视物体，然后理解那些物体，嗯，所以就像视觉感知，这个物体意味着什么，它们要做什么，可能的行进路径是什么，嗯，毫无疑问，嗯，就像这只是因为人们没有眼睛一样，比如他们基本上不可能有效地拥有一个人类的一项测试流程，就像在一个缓慢的万向架上装有1台相机，你知道，会有各种各样的问题，嗯，在穿透遮挡的波长中

呃，就像雷达，你知道，大约4毫米雷达之类的，嗯，如果你能真正深入实际光子生成工作的领域，嗯，作为一名工程师，那会更好，所以带我们过一遍，今天是星期一早晨，你醒来，在，呃，嗯，一天，典型工作日是什么样，其实并不好玩或有趣，就像做家务，所以我真的非常努力地想不做家务，但如果我不做家务，那会有所帮助，所以，哦天哪，你得让我们听听 [音乐]，而且你确实会，嗯，这有点，有件事真的让人松了口气，就是听到你这么说，是的，嗯，嗯，然后事后会议要好得多，呃，甚至Zoom会议或其他什么，你知道，比电子邮件好一点，任何东西都有一封电子邮件，我会有一场，嗯，会议

呃，我会写一封电子邮件，写支票，嗯，尤其是如果那像是一封发给团队的电子邮件，比如，嘿，我们需要，我认为我们需要改变方向，做以下事情，嗯，而且你知道，如果你有不同想法，我们就要做这些事情，并在这个领域或那个领域共同行动起来，嗯，然后，是的，一大堆会议，我的大多数会议都是关于工程和设计的，但你当然必须应对切换，嗯，在Space Next和告诉他们接下来发生的所有事情、Tesla，然后，然后Euro-link、无聊公司之间切换语境真的很难，好在它们的带宽很低很低，但它们不会占用高等级CPU，因为它们规模较小，而且那里有开放钻石日历的所在，我认为很多，你知道

知名创始人都有大块时间，因为你经营着多家公司，你也比传统更为工程化，你的挑战是什么，就像疯狂的信息洪流威慑，嗯，我的意思是，有时候如果你不是，比如我一天所做的事情，那太疯狂了，呃，我不推荐，我，我的意思是，是的，我当时在想，比如，那我还能这样坚持多久，因为我不知道我的大脑，它们并不像，嗯，有了更好的好东西，它们就像这场会议必不可少，比如，好吧，嗯，这相当紧张，嗯，我想，比如也许我应该，比如在某个时候，比如 [音乐]，那也许会有帮助，我觉得会，一本书，一部纪录片，我想，你知道，我的意思是，我记得曾经听说，你是怎样仍然睡在工厂地板上，去做，去真正工作

极其努力，我，我，我必须就在那里和他们一起，嗯，而且他们必须，他们必须看到，你知道，眼见使我们相信，所以有很多次睡在工厂地板中央，而且，你知道，大概凌晨前入睡，比如，你知道，4小时后醒来，而他们真的看得到我，他们不会从我身边经过，嗯，嗯，[ __ ] 机器人就在大概15英尺外，是的，而且它们，它们在捶打金属，就像你正在分裂，而你的工厂就像文学作品，你的，你的房间实际上就在它们中间，至少我看到了你的，你就像在对话中，那就是你所在的地方，因为人们在警察房间里看不到我，所以我睡在会议室外面的地板上，它，嗯，或者另一项努力，你会创办什么，嗯，然后没有人

做过什么，所以其实最初是开玩笑，然后创建了无聊公司，嗯，通过让人们能够轻松地在城市里从一个地方前往另一个地方来改善人们的生活质量，然后这可以进一步扩展到长途旅行，呃，如果你只是在隧道里制造真空，那么你就能以极快的速度行进，并投资一架飞机或一条高速铁路，嗯，所以我真的仍然建议，呃，另一个人说，请创办一家造型公司，那会很棒，嗯，然后还有 RNA 或 mRNA，基本上是合成病毒，呃，也就是，呃，我们正看到它在生物摄取方面的特殊效果，而且，嗯，但我认为人们并没有充分认识到，实际正在发生的是医学的数字化，所以你真的可以直接，你知道，创造一个艺术

或像计算机程序一样的 DNA 序列，然后，呃，把它封装在这个里面，这绝对是医学的未来，嗯，Tesla 实际上只是在快速制造附属的，呃，RNA 某种微型晶圆厂之类的东西，目前为治愈恢复增长而做，以便也为其他公司制造，嗯，我不确定我是否理解这个，为什么是 Tesla，我会说这超级随机，所以关于和职位，他们说，比如我们愿意被收购，但有那么几个项目，我们认为即使它们与汽车无关，也真的很想继续，嗯，然后另一个就是这个生物技术的东西，它基本上由3部分组成，有一个 DNA 倍增器、一个 RNA 倍增器，以及研究，它们把脂质外壳装到 RNA 序列上，嗯，像第3版

现在是它，然后他们继续做，所以如果你把它保留在资源之下，然后结果是，嗯，遍及全世界，所以你在那里会采取什么不同做法，嗯，好吧，我，我确实不太了解情况，对于任何有使用的人来说真的很重要，嗯，CBS 和 Walgreens，它们每年都会发放流感疫苗，然后说，好吧，就，就来这里，而且，嗯，疫苗对温度相当敏感，它们只能，嗯，从深度、深度冷冻中短暂地某种程度解冻，然后就必须使用，否则它们，它们会失去效力，嗯，这是 RNA，因为他们使用的 RNA 序列不稳定，那些序列想要逆转，呃，变成别的东西，嗯，因为它们不稳定，所以必须在非常低的温度下冷冻，呃，否则它们会

就是想恢复到较低能量状态，嗯，RNA 序列，据我理解，嗯，所以就像，与其担心类似这个，不如尽快，而且我们肯定不该还担心第2剂，只要给每个人第1剂，我怀疑由第1剂奠定基础的群体非常可观，嗯，你知道，那大概是3或4周后，所以，呃，我们将不得不，我们将安排时间，并且不要担心比如真的把跳舞给一个也许只是的人，所以那会发生，你，它会在今年晚些时候被扔掉，数量会超过我们可能需要或想要的任何程度，嗯，刚刚获批的是一种小型传统疫苗，但它是室温下单针接种，嗯，然后还有更多疫苗

有望很快获得批准，而且，嗯，而且，嗯，再加上这一点，我们，我认为正开始接近某种程度的心脏免疫，嗯，随着，你知道，那些感染病毒并且，嗯，并且康复的人，所以这其实比接种疫苗更好，嗯，但抗体出色反应，嗯，比那个更好，所以，嗯，是的，嗯，我认为，你知道，乐观的信息是将会，所以你知道，说到疫苗，加利福尼亚，你知道，就推出速度而言，它一直在某种程度上在第40、第45和第50个国家之间来回浮动，而且它某种程度上，你知道，再次越来越多地提出了那些问题，也就是，你知道，你和我以及很多人，你知道，你正在听，这就像，你知道，建立我们的公司

你知道，到目前为止主要在加利福尼亚，嗯，从现在来看，你对加利福尼亚的未来有什么看法？好吧，我应该说，我爱加利福尼亚，我已经，我人生的一半、超过一半都住在加利福尼亚，只是，你知道，嗯，就像我是，你知道，加利福尼亚人，你知道，就像我的很多，我要在这里建立我的公司，呃，早在大约92年，我想是92-93年，就研究电动汽车的储能技术，呃，有一家叫作“体育临床研究”的小公司，嗯，致力于通过先进容量，嗯，车辆，它们可能会成功，也可能不会，但这会有用吗，或者没有得到回答，而且就像，你知道，我的意思是，你基本上是唯一的互联网公司，嗯，然后，呃，因为我就像，好吧，我也为自己写点东西，而我实际上

编写了互联网上最早的地图和路线指引，我不确定有多少人知道那最早的最佳路线指引、黄页和白页，我亲自写了它，就只有我和我的电脑，而当我们创办这家公司时，我们只有1台电脑，网站只在白天运行，因为我晚上在服务器上编程，白天，真是一场冒险，那，嗯，当然，嗯，是的，所以我，我只是想让你知道，下次你出现在我的某家公司、和我一起待着时，你会获得一份实习工作。嗯，谢谢，伙计，不过是2台电脑。嗯，你在电视上看什么？你现在在读什么？好吧，嗯，我刚看完《最后的王国》，我认为那是一部很棒的，你知道，基本上是历史

呃，戏剧，嗯，嗯，某种，嗯，呃，关于像是有一个短缺命令之类的事情，一开始有些东西似乎没有任何科学道理，所以我当时就想，得了吧，于是我就不看了，但我，它听起来像是，你知道，阿什维尔实际上就像星际旅行会是怎样，你知道，某种面部例行程序是什么，顺便说一句，还有随之而来的政治，对吧，所以它某种程度上搭起了一场三方大战，你知道，有地球和火星，然后是小行星带，嗯，当[音乐]你看了《乌鸦宴会》最近那一部吗？看了，很棒。呃，你看过克里斯托弗·诺兰的新片吗？看过。哇，好吧，那你看懂了吗？嗯，我觉得，我觉得他说了，就别，比如深入研究它，就把它当电影享受，还有4

几小时，比如，之后我从更好的事情中出来，比如我仍然不完全明白。所以我本来应该只是，你知道，快速浏览一下，然后纯粹为了好玩看看它。是的，是的，没错。嗯，你知道，我想，你知道，我不，你不要每次占用太多。这太不可思议了。嗯，你几乎已经弄坏了大约十几个、也许更多的房间，而对于你所有的，嗯，在这里和 Twitter 上，你一直在邀请人们加入 Tesla。你对现在正在听你讲话的每个人还有什么最后的想法吗？嗯，你们想听听 Vlad 讲述 Robinhood 本周究竟发生了什么的真实故事吗，关于案件出局，呃，呃？好的，你需要想办法让他点击某个按钮，这样你就能说话。呃，既然你在一开始就提到了那件事，它是

事实上是一本伪装成愚蠢幽默书的哲学书。嗯，如果你从“哇，这是一本有趣的哲学书”的角度去读，它相当有洞见。嗯，这里的要点是，嗯，一旦你大概能够、大概构想出问题，答案就很简单。嗯，而且，呃，是的，我的意思是，我喜欢飞船由无限不可能性驱动这一点，它叫“黄金之心号”。嗯，是的，是的。嗯，一种文书错误，他们基本上决定需要建一条 SSL 高速公路，而地球挡在路上，所以他们关于这个，我想已经贴在公告板上了。你是什么意思？嗯，嘿，各位，谢谢，呃，谢谢邀请我上来。很高兴和你们大家一起聊。好吧，所以到底发生了什么？给我们说说内幕。好吧，其实我

原本希望，呃，你会邀请我上来参加费米悖论的部分，因为，嗯，对我来说，这个周末和这一周非常超现实。嗯，其中一件非常棒的事情是，所有人都纷纷冒出来，为公司提供支持，呃，提供，你知道，建议。所以，嗯，今天有人介绍我认识了，嗯，实际上我应该说，我几天前才随手下载了 Clubhouse，只是想看看它到底是什么，所以这真的是我第一次使用这个应用。但，嗯，是的，有人介绍我认识了，呃，你的朋友 Antonio，埃隆，他给了我一些很好的建议，然后又把我介绍给你。你给了一些很棒的建议，然后我想，你知道，我听说了这个 Clubhouse，而且，呃，这肯定是模拟的一部分，所以我只是，呃，觉得为什么不呢。所以这里

我是，所以我其实，嗯，我其实是模拟假说的信奉者。好的，那么，是菲律宾，伙计，上周发生了什么？你为什么，呃，阻止人们，为什么人们不能购买 Gangstop 的股票？人们要求一个答案，而且他们想知道细节和真相。是的，嗯，好吧，所以先让我介绍一点背景，嗯，实际上有几家公司。所以有一家叫 Robinhood Financial 的介绍经纪交易商，那基本上就是你熟悉和喜爱的那个应用。它处理交易，呃，你是 Robinhood Financial 的客户。然后还有一家清算经纪交易商，嗯，Robin the Securities，负责清算和结算交易。然后我们还有 Revenue，也就是我们的加密货币业务，嗯，所有这些，呃

所有这些算是不同的实体，运营方式也各不相同。所以基本上，上周三，我们遇到了，你知道，前所未有的交易量、系统承受了前所未有的负载。呃，许多这些所谓的均值股票，你知道，在社交媒体上疯传，人们纷纷加入 Robin Hood，而且对它们有大量净买入活动。嗯，大家都知道，当时 Robinhood 我想在 iOS 应用商店排名第一，而且在 Google Play 上即使不是第一，也非常接近第一。所以活动规模前所未有。嗯，然后到了周四早上，对吧，我当时在睡觉，但在凌晨 3:30，

太平洋时间上午，我们的运营团队收到了 NSCC 发来的一个文件，NSCC 就是美国国家证券清算公司。所以基本上，作为经纪商、作为清算经纪商，而这就是 Robert the Securities 发挥作用的地方，我们必须根据一些因素向 NSCC 缴纳资金，包括交易活动的波动性、对某些证券的集中程度之类的因素。这是股票业务，所以它依据的是股票交易，而不是期权交易或其他任何交易。嗯，所以他们给了我们一份包含保证金要求的文件，要求大约是30亿美元。嗯，这个数字，你知道，比通常的数字高出大约1个数量级，对吧？所以，嗯，不，不，为什么这么高？这看起来像是，听起来像是对资本的需求出现了前所未有的增长，

他们用什么公式计算出来的？嗯，是的，补充一点背景，你知道，截至那个时候，Robinhood 到目前总共筹集的风险投资略微约有20亿美元。所以这是一个很大的数字，比如30亿美元是，嗯，是个很大的数字，对吧？所以，而且，嗯，至于细节，我们没有完整的细节。这个公式有点不透明，但其中有一个叫作 VAR 的组成部分，也就是风险价值，而且，呃，那是基于一些颇为量化的东西，尽管它并不，并不完全透明。所以，呃，有办法对它进行逆向推算，但，呃，它并没有被公开分享。然后还有一个特殊组成部分，是酌情决定的。嗯，所以那种，那个

的作用就像一个乘数，而且，嗯，基本上，酌情、酌情决定的意思就是，这只是他们的意见吗？是的，他们，呃，这个有一点，我是说，我确信这里面肯定不只是他们的意见，但在这里，嗯，这似乎很奇怪，你会突然收到100亿美元的要求，你知道，30亿，3分钟。是的，是30亿。好吧，你知道，就这么突然凭空冒出来。嗯，关于，嗯，你知道，NSCC 内部当时发生了什么、现在发生了什么，才让他们做出这些计算。但是，嗯，是的，本质上现在是什么把你扣作人质了？[音乐] 而且当时我其实还在睡觉，你知道，运营方案当时在3点钟应对这件事，然后，嗯，你知道，我们回来后一起集思广益，

嗯，你知道，我们的首席运营官基本上说，听着，我们给 NSCC 的高层打电话，弄清楚到底是怎么回事，也许我们能以某种方式与他们合作。基本上，后来又通了一次电话，他们把它降到了大约1。

来自街头的40亿美元。好吧，我们取得了一些进展，对吧？然后那个数字仍然很高，接着我们基本上提出，好吧，让我们，让我们解释一下我们计划如何，嗯，让我们解释一下，你知道，我们当天将如何管理这些股票代码的风险。呃，我们提议，嗯，把这些在某种程度上推动、推动交易活动的高波动股票标记为只能平仓。然后在市场收盘前大约1小时，市场开盘，所以早上5:30或5点，他们回复说，好吧，费用是，或者说保证金是7亿美元，随后我们立即缴纳并支付了，然后，嗯，一切都没问题。那，那，嗯，解释了为什么我们必须，嗯，我们必须把这些股票代码标记为只能平仓，也解释了为什么，你知道，我们不想，我们知道这是一个

对客户不利的结果。嗯，你知道，真正困难的部分在于，嗯，抢劫代表着，你知道，让股票投资渠道民主化，而且，是的，我们希望让人们获得这种渠道。所以这一直非常、非常具有挑战性，但在这种情况下我们别无选择。我们必须遵守监管资本要求，所以团队做了他们能做的事情，以确保我们能为客户提供服务。所有这些的，呃，细节。好吧，但是，你知道，公平地说，我们当时，我们当时，我认为市场上确实存在某种合理的动荡，比如这些均值股票引发的是前所未有的事件，而且，你知道，交易活动非常多。所以系统中可能确实存在，嗯，一定程度的额外风险，足以要求更高、更高的标准。所以这并非完全

不合理，但我们确实有运营流程，确保持有仓位的客户能够卖出他们的未平仓仓位，因为显然，限制某个人，我们收到了很多问题，说好吧，你们必须限制买入，为什么不也限制卖出？而事实是，如果人们持有股票、想卖掉却卖不了，他们会非常生气。所以我认为那，那绝对更糟糕。所以，嗯，我认为许多其他经纪商也处于同样的境地。Robinhood 上了新闻，但你只是大致听说了这个行业。为什么，我看到其他经纪商，呃，基本上限制了完全相同的活动。好的，所以听起来这个，这个组织应该，你知道，它打电话给你，而他们基本上已经完成了

在你脑中，要么他们有所有这些钱，或者[音乐]，是的，我觉得这说得公平，你知道，我们必须遵守这些要求，金融机构有要求，嗯，你知道，这些要求背后的公式，嗯，我觉得，嗯，如果能多一点透明度显然会很理想，这样我们就能围绕这一点做得更好，嗯，你知道，但公平地说，我们当时能够开放并服务我们的客户，而且，嗯，你知道，24，24小时后，我们的团队筹集了超过10亿美元的资本，所以当我们，当我们确实开放，呃，好吧，当我们明天早上开放时，我们将能够稍微放宽我们周五对这些证券设置的严格头寸限制。会有任何限制吗？嗯，我认为总会存在某种理论上的限制。

比如，我们没有无限的资本，对吧，而且周五是有限制的。嗯，所以总是，总是必须有某种限制。我认为问题是，你知道，限制是否会高到这样一种程度，就是，你知道，某些，它不会影响，你知道，99.

9%以上的客户，所以如果，你知道，有人存入1000亿美元，并决定像那样只交易一只股票，那是不可能的，你知道。好吧，嗯，是的，听着，公平地说，那些，嗯，一直都很合理。所以我们，我认为，可能人们不太清楚的一件事是，Robin是金融体系的参与者。所有这些，嗯，所以我们确实会收到很多问题，关于，你知道，当你与做市商合作、与清算所合作时，呃，垂直整合以及获得，嗯，让客户能够交易股票的金融体系，某种程度上是由多方构成的复杂网络，而且，你知道，这很难。每个人都说它可以变得更好，可以得到改进，嗯，这只是交易股票的必要性，在

美国要求你做所有这些事情，你在多大程度上受制于Citadel，我是说，基本上，但后来发生了什么，是啊，有传言说，呃，你知道，这是，这是一个清算所，这是一个清算所的决定，而且它只是基于资本要求，所以，嗯，从我们的角度来看，你知道，Citadel和其他参与其中的做市商，但是既然它是一个行业联合体而不是政府联合体，他们难道不会对由谁来负责那个组织拥有很大的发言权吗，阴谋论有一点，所以我只是没有理由相信情况是那样，你知道，好的，好吧，嗯，我想我们会看看未来的行动会发生什么，嗯，关于，我知道已经很晚了，而且，呃，非常感谢你

你知道，我非常感激，而且我相信这里的每一位听众和在其他地方观看的人也是如此，所以非常感谢，我们哭着选一首歌，那是第一件事，所以我要播放，非常感谢，好吧，我想，我想我们结束了，哇，哇，那太疯狂了，各位，哇，谢谢，我们刚刚和这段历史，各位

are you celebrating anything in particular with your short shirts um no i'm just trying to look sexy in these in these tight pants with the you know fabulous red in the goals uh is the good times room has almost 6 000 people in it right now all right just give it a minute because we promised we'd start at 10 and i think a few more people are going to try and trickle in and then you're going to get you'll get going for what should be probably historic uh first ever time for you and somebody amazing okay by the way um can you let him vlad from robin hood wow [Music] all everyone uh thank you for joining us for what is really a historic uh episode um i will come to our very very uh special guest in a second uh but just to quickly introduce the rest of the

nuke uh we have jack um this is really fun uh you know we've been waiting all day this is the longest way to 10 p.

m because we just couldn't wait to get this going um i hope this is as much fun by the end of it for you as it is for us first question from you is when are we going to get to mars [Music] roughly the same quadrant of the solar system and where we can do age planetary transfer and uh so we have one about six months ago about a year and a half there'll be another one so figure you know i don't know uh five and a half years five and a half years so what does it take from here to that point like what are the milestones do you think that's true you know five years out we are landing on mars well we're going to make a social play like aircraft where the cost of an air flight is um the component of that is fuel and um you can't just be throwing rockets away

every time and then you have orbital refilling so where you can extend the ship up towards uh then send another strip of dark wood transport propellant so that you can load up um to be almost cool with propellant and then go to mars and uh if if you've got a large fully monthly reusable rocket with over refilling that uses um high efficiency low-cost propellants then you can go to mars and then one one last thing is on mars here you need a local uh propellant production um anything here throughout the atmosphere uh combine it with the water ice h2o to create ch4 methane and oxygen and if you have those elements i would like to become multi-planter and we have a self-sustaining study on mars which i think is one of the most important things we could possibly

do for ensuring the long-term existence of consciousness yeah i think yeah that makes sense sorry i'll go for it yeah you've spoken about this often which is you know expanding your scope of consciousness and how it is tied to multi-family life could you explain what that means for you and why that matters to you uh sure well is it all meaningless i got quite depressed actually people out about it and and then the thing that kind of broke me out of it was reading out of this hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy um where he essentially pointed out that the universe is the answer and really the hard part is figuring out what questions to ask about the answer that is the universe um determining from the fact that the answer is the easy part of the questions

about the hard part so in order for us to gain a um a better understanding what questions to ask or to understand what it's all about we have to increase the scope and scale of consciousness so that we're better able to figure out how much questions at the same time um for reasons external or internal and and that was that all civilizations go through um technology complexity um because of globalization so i think for the first time the four and a half billion year history of earth has been possible to extend life beyond earth um and make life possibly planetary and this window of opportunity may be over for a long time i hope it is or it might be open for a short time um and i think it would be wise for us to assume that it's open for a short time um

it's not a pessimist but i you know you have to say like some chance of telling you for a short time and we should take advantage of this brief window opening where we can transfer life transport life to make life multi-planetary and and humanity is essentially the agents of life in this process and i think we almost have an obligation to uh ensure that the creatures of earth continue uh even if there is a collaboration on earth which as i said could be man-made or it could be uh like natural calamity as if you look at the fossil yeah i think yeah i think you know all of it makes sense and i think we've heard you've talked about this before i think one other question i have is you know when you get there you know we have to set up the whole society we

have to set up civilization there um how will the whole thing work in your mind like you know everything from what does it mean to have internet connection in mars um all the way to like garments and and i would not presume to prescribe what should happen there i think the important part is just that we get people there and we get the equipment necessary to establish a self-sustaining civilization um at least one self-sustaining city and i think the key threshold of when we would pass the great culture of this this particular great filter is um is sufficiently self-sustaining such that if the ship stop coming from earth for any reason it could be something massive or it's not something i mean civilization on earth content with a bang or a weapon and but

either way if the ship stopped coming from mars does mars die out or not um and moscone has been missing one little ingredients threshold where is self-sustaining um and are we able to do that before some calamity or or a gradual decline civilization occurs that prevents the strips from going there that's the that's that's the key threshold let yourself dream out over the next few decades like what would you what would you consider success like let's say they get through the first you know five years even the first 10 years like what do you think is possible to build on mars 10 years in 20 years then 30 years then after first um [Music] uh no it will be dangerous uh hard work um it's gonna be you're out there on the frontier uh you know a great adventure

um but it will not be a luxurious thing that is for sure quite going uh creating the necessities um you know we needed an iron ore refinery all of the fundamentals of industry in order to make sure that mars is a subtle sustaining planet um over time like this would take a while but uh you could terraform the planet and make it earth life um most people are warming it up so yeah so you know as you talk about this i mean honestly what comes to mind is sort of the idea that a martial civilization you know although obviously imported to earth it will quickly evolve to be quite a bit tougher um by necessity and just the missile image just leaving my mind as the spartans uh in ancient greece um do you think that do you think do you think the sort of vector

of civilization will unfold differently is the consequence of difficulties getting going different civilizations for it yeah yeah absolutely the fact that it's you can only go to mars every two years and that is a six months six months journey although i think we can over time get that potentially as low as one month you can't go to mars when uh earth is on the on the other side of the sun from mars like the you know times we're gonna block your heart especially no matter what you do so that uh a group of people uh arriving roughly every two years um to ensure the long-term continuance of consciousness as we know it um because as far as we can tell we're the only um delicate seen nothing to indicate uh that thursday any alien association whatsoever i

would i i'd be the first jump with that in a second but i've seen there's such to ask you evidence because in the last year there's been multiple reported ufo sightings there was the mysterious object that flew past our solar system um that could not be explained by other means um and where the probable explanation by other means is much more likely than alien technology so people say they're signing the resolution of the picture needs to be at least like 7 11 atm good okay levels um um what would your response be if they start coming to you when they turn 18 or you know 22 and they say you know dad you know you know you planted us to mars and there's probably foreign um controls the universe um well i mean i mean from uh the spice controls universe and

if memes are spiced those means i mean there's a little bit of truth to it in that like like how do you you know what is how do things become interesting to people and it means like actually kind of a complex form of communication that's like a picture maybe says ten fell swords um you know it's a complex picture with a bunch of meaning in it um and it is you know aspirationally funny uh so you know i affected people so yeah um how did you get so good at them i mean um i remember following you many years ago going from uh i guess uh probably um i mean you know if you go back to my early very early tweets technically i was on twitter i think in the very early days when they were only like made ten thousand less than ten thousand users uh but then like

people were just like tweeting like what kind of latte they had at the university street uh starbucks and i was like i don't even know this so then i deleted my twitter account um and you're like following or creating right now what are the ones that are interesting to you right now um i think some of them and then some of them are sent to me i have some pretty kick-ass game dealers yeah are there reviews on mars wait wait you're gonna have a good team dealer there will be my friends mike is a good game dealer and uh claire as well and uh jaco and a few quite a few others actually i personally am the likely responsible very interesting news and why people should be working there for folks who don't know about it i thought it was really cool like you know

just the possibility of it which is really fantastic tell us more about it you know there are a lot of engineers listening on this um this clubhouse uh you know what is neural link why should we care what is possible with it sure so um the the long-term okay so new link steps from a concern i had uh where i was trying to figure out even in a benign ai scenario how do we at least go along for the ride so um i mean if it has been following yeah closely it's supposed to be improving dramatically um you know if you feel like look let's say gp1 plus gmt versus gp3 and just how radically that's improved um and just like you know deep minds and i mean i think they've run out of games to win at basically um important thing is like tesla actually has i think one

of the the strongest ai teams in the world but his ait focused on real world usability um so just really building uh vision perception and control with ai but even in a benign scenario for ai where let's say like the fbi is like just really wants to be super nice to us and make us happy how do we stay relevant and have meeting and at least go along for the ride that's been a good scenario in terms of avoiding the bad scenario to the degree we can couple uh collective human will to the outcome of artificial intelligence and what's developed that way i think that'll probably be a better scenario for unable to effectively couple collective human oil to that outcome so um so the final the death is getting kind of desperate but you already have a tertiary

digital layer you've got your sort of limiting system which is your primitive drives and uh desires and responses uh and then you've got your cortex which is like long-term planning and thinking um those are two biological layers and then there's a tertiary layer third layer which is digital and you already have that in the form of your phones and computers and all your applications um you're far more powerful than the human would be without those uh cognitive enhancements but the bandwidth between your cortex and your additional pressure layer is very slow and in fact with the adventure phones um it got even slower so if you're if you're thumbing what's the rate so so so we need to improve the bandwidth um and with the direct neural interface we can

improve the bandwidth between your cortex and your digital territory layer by many orders of magnitude at least a thousand or maybe 10 000 or more we can also um a lot more time thinking about interesting things as opposed to taking complex thought structures compressing them down into words which is which also gain a very low cut rate um and then having someone else receive those words decompress them and then and then send words back to you um so a huge one about brain power and compression decompression um and we could be constantly on uh different concepts and so if you had a neural link typically your length you could do uh conceptual telepathy uh where you have a complex series a complex series of concepts and you just transfer them directly uncompressed

to the other the first drastically improve the quality of communication and the speed of it so um there are other sort of pretty wild things that can be done like you could probably save state in the here and you wouldn't be exactly the same so you you know a little less than transfer but you can also say it's also arguably true that when you wake up in the morning you're not exactly the same as yesterday um or the u of a month ago is not the same as the year of today cells have died um memory cell memories have dated so much strength and therapy memories so anyway the point is like you wouldn't be uh you could it could be something analogous to a video game like a game situation where you are able to resume upload your last state yeah kinda like ultra

carbon um maybe there's a few memories but i'll but mostly be here so now that's the launch code stuff in the short term the idea would really just be to address uh brain injuries or spinal injuries and um you know make up for whatever lost capacity somebody has with uh with an implanted shoe so the first thing that we're going after is a wireless compartment that would to control a computer or mouse or their phone or really any device uh just use just by thinking um and this is obviously going to be massive enabler you way way easier for them um there have been sort of primitive versions of this device one time with like wires thinking out of your head but it doesn't work all the time and you can't take it home with you so just having basically they

think i like it apple watches phones computers various kinds then actually they would be a great fit for um so yeah i mean we'll probably be releasing some some new videos showing progress maybe uh in a month or so and uh because we've already got like a a monkey with with a wireless implant in their skull and the tiny wires uh who can play video games uh using his mind and you can't even see where the neural implant was put into that so the usda came through and inspected our facilities our monkey facilities she said it was like the nicest sponsoring facilities she's ever seen in her entire career the early applications will really just be for you know people who've had a serious brain injury um like where it's like the value of the implant is just would

be enormous um [Music] initial surgeries with full disclosure of like risks and everything so we've tested implantation removal and re-implantation say and of course great um sorry um i mentioned kids earlier as it turns out i have a very uh bright and inquisitive pleasure um who is crawling all over everything and trying to figure everything out and learning as much as he can as fast as he can like what you know with everything that we know now and kind of all the modern tools we have like what's the best way to think about educating a five-year-old in today's world that's right the best way to ex yeah educate a five-year-old and then think about kind of his identification over the course of the next you know five or ten years like what what kind of

program ideally you think a kid should be on well my observations my kids were mostly educated by youth group and writers um and then you know and i guess classmates and i guess their lessons as well but um judging by the amount of time they spent online it just seemed like most of their education is actually coming from online um i mean i think generally with education you want to make it as interesting as possible if we're going to explain why we're teaching you this and why it is relevant um i mean we were able to um to forget things that are irrelevant or have low low relevance probability it makes sense like otherwise people remember all sorts of nonsense things that are very important to our future so unless unless relevance is established clearly

um then people will have a hard time remembering where it finds nature because it appears to be irrelevant um it might be relevant but if the law explains them they won't know um and then there's if you want to have some sort of engagement problem solving some sort of engaging narrative for problem solving like [Music] in um this is much better than having say a course on wrenches or a course on screwdrivers just like start with a problem and say what titles i need to solve this problem that establishes real relevance and gives a compelling hour of thread it seems like you could kind of if you had sort of elaborate enough projects you know you could you could rule a huge number of topics to do to ultimately kind of combine it with you know some really

actually you know interesting of great um if it's the casting engine you know what's that how do you get to a higher rpm or a you know better compression ratio um you know i'm using like uh um become what advice you have for parents and the next one is here you are with you know so many companies that i can't even stop my head why does the world have and this doesn't mean to sound you know psychopathic but why does the world have more um you there are pretty long essentials in my life that have been very painful and difficult and i'm not sure i would i'm sure people would want to do that you know um um what encouraging words do you have for entrepreneurs who want to do a startup and my response is if you need encouraging words don't do a startup and eventually

um in um just a quick recent flash recap this is uh uh the one only elon musk was first time on clubhouse and this is a show that we do every single day i know a lot of you are trying to get the route to overflow room what do you think of cryptocurrency what do you think of bitcoin what do you think of other uh yeah i gotta watch what i say here because some of these things can really move the market um many friends of mine have tried he had a bitcoin cake a cake that was like a bitcoin symbol on it and he fed me a slice of bitcoin cake in 2013.

so i mean clearly i should have at least fight for bitcoins eight years ago conventional uh finance people you know so um and the most entertaining outcome is often most likely and arguably the most entertaining outcome and the most ironic outcome would be that dogecoin becomes the currency of earth in the future oh my god um it was insane um sitting outside our house right now um especially when it comes to all things technology and self-driving a lot of people are very interested okay so should you ask me about the future of batteries itself um the next few years um well yeah i mean i think that i mean the goal with tesla is is to accelerate the effects of sustainable energy um so in order to do that we've got to make a lot of cars we've got to make

them uh increasingly affordable and our rough target is we want people to um eventually make 20 million cars a year the reason for that is the two billion active cars and trucks in the road and you're not really moving the needle unless you're changing one percent of the existing clean and of course production as fast as possible as much as possible from suppliers and then but even though it's not enough so we're actually going to be building uh their rate as well um so panasonic um algae and jhdl and then you know to increase the accelerate stable energy further we're making our own cells um and um i'm pretty pretty excited about that and then anyways i think you expect possibly an acceleration of compounding annual growth uh at least aspirationally

that's our goal and and then that combine that with autonomy and it's very powerful story because once you have autonomy or self-driving cars you massively increase the utility of any different car um you know a typical car is driven about 12 miles sr 12 12 hours a week depending on the situation your roughly 12 hours a week and there's 168 hours in a week a week so most likely a third of the hours a week or something like that um so maybe they do 60 hours a week of usage instead of 12.

so basically per increase in asset utilization there um and far less need for parking less parking garages that kind of thing so um and this in itself is good for the environment um but the net of like having a lot of cars times uh motivational time self-driving i think is at the heart of why um a lot of investors think tesla is with what it is um is directly to live space and live saved and injuries about a million people die every year in car accidents and about 10 million per year have serious injuries uh so that's the pursuit of the better um and a lot of flights will be saved in lines and fuels lives made better if it becomes happens here on self driving you know you've made life a while back when you basically you know to put it mildly criticized

[Music] um is so um um first of all i know i like farming i guess you know because you know for the spacex dragon at joshua space station we for driving on real world roads um you you have to solve uh vision you have some vision basically understanding audit objects with passive optical um um passive optical photons and and then making sense of those objects um so like division perception what does this object mean what are they going to do what is the likely path of travel um no question about it um like it's just because people don't have eyes like they can't basically have effectively a human one test process has it's like having one camera on a slow gimbal you know there's all sorts of things that go wrong um in the occlusion penetrating wavelengths

uh just like radar you know roughly four millimeter radar or something like that um would be better if you can really delve into the arena of actual photon generation work um as an engineer so walk us through it's monday morning you wake up what is the day a typical work day in the uh um is not actually fun or interesting it's like chores so i've tried really hard not to do my chores but then i don't do my chores it's going to help so oh man you have to hear it for us [Music] and you do um and it's kind of there's something just really relieving just hearing you say that yeah um um and and then post meetings are much better uh even zoom meetings or whatever you know there's a little better than email anything's got an email i'll have a um of meetings

uh i'll write an email write checks um especially if it's like an email to the group like hey we need to i think we need to change direction do the following things um and you know if you think otherwise we're going to do these things and connect our act together in this area or that area um and then yeah a bunch of meetings most of my meetings are engineering and design but of course you have to deal with switching um it's really hard to context switch between space next and tell them all the things that are going on next tesla and then and then euro-link boring company which was fortunately pretty low low bandwidth but they don't take a high level cpu because they're smaller and there's where's of open diamond calendar and i think a lot of you know

well-known founders have large blocks because you have multiple companies you're running you're also much more engineered and traditional what is your challenge are like insane torrents deterrence for information um i mean sometimes if you weren't like what i do for a day it's insane uh i don't recommend it i i mean yeah i was thinking like then how long can i keep this up because i don't know my brain they're not like um nice to have goodies they're like this meeting is essential like okay um it's pretty intense um i think like maybe i should like at some point like [Music] that might be helpful i think so a book a documentary i think you know i mean i remember once hearing about how do you still sleep on the floor of your factory to do to really work

super hard i i i gotta be right there with them um and they gotta they gotta see it you know seeing us believing and so a bunch of sleeping in the middle of the factory floor and you know sort of go to sleep before in the morning like you know waking up like four hours later and like they literally see me they won't pass me um um [ __ ] robots are like 15 feet away yeah and they're they're pounding metal and it's like you're splitting and your factory's like literature your your room is like literally in the middle of them at least i saw your you're like in the conversation that's where you're because people could not see me in the cops room so i slept on the floor outside the conference room it um or another effort what would you start um and then nobody

did anything so then actually initially as a joke and created the boring company um improve people's quality of life by making it easy to travel from one place to another in a city and then that can be further expanded to long-distance travel uh where if you just throw a vacuum on the tunnel then you can go extremely fast and invest in a plane or a high speed rail um so i really still recommend uh someone else said please start a styling company that'll be great um then there's rna or mrna basically synthetic viruses uh which is uh we're seeing particular effect with bio intake and um but i think people don't quite appreciate that that what's actually going on is the digitization of medicine so it's where you can just literally you know create an art

or dna sequence like a computer program and then uh encapsulate that in this is absolutely the future of medicine um tells actually just making affiliate fast uh rna sort of micro fab or something where for currently for cure back to growth to make it for other companies as well um i'm not sure i understand this why is tesla i'd say it's super random so for and position they said like we're willing to be acquired but there's like just a couple of projects that we think even though they're not related to automotive we really like to continue um and then another one was this biotech thing for it's basically three parts to it there's a dna multiplier an rna multiplier and studying which puts them the lipid shell on the rna sequence um like version three

of it now and then they keep going so if you keep it under resources and then it turned out um across the world so what would you do differently there um well i i don't have good insight into the situation really is important for anyone with use um cbs and walgreens which would give out the flu vaccine every year and say okay just just show up here and um vaccines which are quite temperature sensitive they can only be um sort of defrosted from from the deep deep freeze briefly and then they must be used or they they lose their effectiveness um this is the rna because the rna sequences they use are not stable those sequences want to reverse uh to something else um because they are not stable they must be frozen at a very low temperature uh or they will

simply want to revert to a lower energy state um rna sequence that's my understanding um so just like instead of worrying about like this as quickly as possible and for sure we should not worry about the second dose yet just give everyone the first dose i suspect that the the community grounded by the first dose is very significant um you know that is like three or four weeks later so uh we'll have to we're going to plant time and don't worry about like actually giving the dancing to someone who maybe just so that will happen you it will be thrown away uh later this year more than we could possibly ever need or want um just got approved which is a small conventional vaccine but it's a single shot at room temperature um and then there are more vaccines

that are going to get approved hopefully soon and um and um combined with that we we are i think starting to approach some degree of heart immunity um with you know people who contract the virus and um and and recovered so which is actually better than getting vaccine um but antibody great reaction is um better than that so um yeah um i think you know optimistic message that there will so you know speaking of vaccines california has you know it's been sort of bouncing between kind of 40th and 45th and 50th country you know by space in terms of the speed of the rollout and it sort of you know it re-raises those questions by coming up more and more which is you know you and i and a lot of people you know you're listening it's like you know builds our companies

you know primarily in california up until now um what's your view in the future in california uh from here well i should say i love california i've been i've lived half my life more than half my life in california just you know um like i am you know californian you know like so much of my i'm gonna build my companies here uh on energy storage technology for electric vehicles way back in like 92 i think it was 92-93 uh there's a little company called clinical research in sport um working on through advanced capacity um vehicles which may or may not be successful but would it be useful or not answered and like you know i mean you're basically the only internet company um and then uh because i'm like okay well i also write something for myself and i actually

wrote the first maps and directions on the internet i'm not sure how many people are aware of that first best directions yellow pages and white pages i wrote it personally it was just me on my computer and when we started this company we only had one computer the website only worked during the day because i was coding at night and from the server and during the day quite an adventure that's um sure um yeah so i i just want to let you know that the next time you show up at one of my companies that hang out with me you're gonna get an internship well thanks man but two computers um what are you what are you watching on tv what are you reading right now well um i just finished watching the last kingdom which i think is a great piece of you know mostly historical

uh drama um um sort of um uh things about like having a shortage order or something there's something like if it doesn't make any scientific sense at first so i was like come on so then i stopped watching it but i it sounds like you know asheville's actually like interplanetary travel would be like you know what's the sort of face routine and by the way the politics that flow right so it sort of sets up a three-way battle between you know there's the earth and mars and then the asteroid belt um when [Music] did you see the ravens banquet the most recent one yeah it's great uh have you seen the new christopher nolan yes wow okay and did you understand it um well i think i think he said just don't like go deep into it just enjoy it for the movie and four

hours like later i emerged from better things like i still don't like entirely get it so i should have just you know just skim through it and just watch it for the fun of it yeah yeah exactly um you know i think you know i don't you don't take up too much every time this has been amazing um you've pretty much broken about like over a dozen maybe more rooms and for all your um here and on twitter you've been asking for people to join tesla do you any final thoughts for everybody who's listening to you right now well do you want to hear the real story um from vlad from robin hood about what happened this week with case out uh uh okay you need to like let him somehow click on a button so you can talk uh since you mentioned that right at the beginning is

in fact a book of philosophy disguised as a silly humor book um and if you read it from the standpoint of wow this is an interesting book of philosophy this is quite insightful um here's the point of um the answer is easy once you probably can probably formulate the question um and uh yeah i mean i like the fact that the ship is powered by infinite improbability it's called the heart of gold um yeah yeah um a sort of clerical error they basically decide that they need to have an ssl highway and an earth's in the way and so they about this i think was posted on the board what do you mean um hey guys thanks for uh thanks for inviting me up it's good to hang with all of you all right so what really happened give us the inside scoop all right well i was actually

hoping that uh you would invite me up for the fermi paradox part because um this has been a very surreal weekend and week for me um one of the really great things is all the people coming to coming out of the woodwork to offer support for the company uh offer you know advice so um i got introduced today um and actually i should say i just randomly downloaded clubhouse a couple days ago just to see what it was all about so this is my first time literally using the app but um yeah i i got introduced to uh your friend antonio elon who had some good advice for me and then introduced me to you you had some great advice and then i figured you know i heard about this clubhouse and uh this has got to be part of the simulation so i just uh thought why not so here

i am so i'm actually um i'm actually an adherent to the simulation hypothesis all right well it's philippines man what happened last week why do you uh stop people why can't people buy the gangstop shares the people demand an answer and they want to know the details in the truth yep um okay so let me let me start by giving a little bit of background is um um there's actually a couple of companies so there's a an introducing broker dealer uh called robinhood financial and that basically is the app that you uh know and love it processes trades uh you're a customer of robinhood financial then there's a clearing broker dealer um robin the securities that clears and settles the trades and then we have revenue which is our crypto business um all of which uh

all of these are kind of different entities that are differently operated so basically wednesday of last week we just had you know unprecedented volume unprecedented load on the system uh a lot of these you know so-called mean stocks were you know going viral on social media and people were people were joining robin hood and there was a lot of net buy activity on them um as you guys all know and robinhood at this time i think was number one on the ios app store and uh pretty close if not number one on google play as well so just unprecedented activity um and so thursday morning right so i'm asleep but at 3 30 a.

m pacific our operations team receives a file from the nscc which is the national securities clearing corporation so basically as a broker as a clearing broker and this is where robert the securities comes in we have to put up money to the nscc based on some factors including things like the volatility of the of the trading activity concentration into certain securities this is the equities business so it's based on stock trading and not options trading or anything else um so they gave us a file with a deposit and the request was around three billion dollars um which is you know about an order of magnitude more than what it typically is right so um no no why is this so high like this seems like like it sounds like this is an unprecedented increase in

demand for capital what formula did they use to calculate that well um yeah and just to give context you know robinhood up until that point has raised you know a little bit around two billion dollars in total uh venture capital up until now so it's a big number like three billion dollars is um is a large number right so and um know the details are we don't have the full details it's a little bit of an opaque formula but there's a component called the var of it which is value at risk and uh that's based on kind of some fairly quantitative things although it's not it's not fully transparent so uh there are ways to reverse engineer it but uh it's not kind of publicly shared and then there's a special component which is discretionary um so that's that kind

of acts as a multiplier and um basically discretionary discretionary meaning like it's just their opinion yeah they're uh it's it's a little bit i mean i'm sure there's there's definitely more more than just their opinion but here um it's like it seems weird that you'd get a sudden 10 billion dollar demand you know three billion three minutes yeah it was three billion okay you know just suddenly out of nowhere um about um you know what was what was going on in what's going on in the in the nscc to make these calculations but um yeah essentially what's holding you hostage right now [Music] and i actually was asleep at this point you know the operation scheme was uh was fielding this at three o'clock and then um you know we got back we put our heads together

um you know our chief operating officer basically said look let's call up the higher ups at the nscc and kind of figure out what's going on maybe there's some way we can work with them and basically there was another call and they lowered it to something like 1.

4 billion dollars from street okay we're making some progress right and then that's still a high number and then we basically proposed well let's let's explain how we plan to um let's explain how you know we'll manage risk in these symbols throughout the day uh we propose um marking these volatile stocks that were kind of driving driving the activity physician closing only and then at about an hour before market closed market open so 5 30 or 5 in the morning they came back and they said okay the charge is or the deposit 700 million which we then deposited and paid promptly and then um everything was fine that that um explains why we had to um we had to mark these symbols position closing only and also why you know we didn't want to we knew this was a

bad outcome for customers um you know part of what's been really difficult is um robbing the stands for you know democratizing access to stocks and yeah we want to give people the access so it has been very very challenging but we had no choice in this case we had to conform to our regulatory capital requirements and so the team did did what they could to make sure we were available for customers details of uh of all of that okay but you know and to be fair we were we were i think there was legitimate sort of turmoil in the markets like these are unprecedented events with these mean stocks and you know there was a lot of activity so there probably is um some amount of extra risk in the system that warrants higher higher requirements so it's not entirely

unreasonable but we do operational processes to make sure that customers that have positions could sell their open positions because obviously restricting someone we got a lot of questions about okay you had to restrict buying why didn't you also restrict selling and the fact of the matter is if people get really pissed off if they're holding stock and they want to sell it and they can't so i think that's that's categorically worse so um and lots of other brokers i think were in the same situation robinhood was in the news but you just sort of heard this industry why i read other brokers uh basically restricted the same exact activity all right so it sounds like this this organization should you know it calls you up and they basically have gone through

your head either they had all this money or [Music] yeah i think that's fair you know we have to comply with these requirements financial institutions have requirements um you know the the formula behind these requirements um i think um it would obviously be ideal if there was a little bit more transparency so we could plan better around that um you know but to be fair we were able to open and serve our customers and um you know 24 24 hours later our team raised over a billion dollars in capital so that when we when we did open uh well when we do open tomorrow morning we'll be able to kind of relax the stringent position limits that we put on these securities on friday will there be any limits well i think there's always going to be some theoretical limit

like we don't have infinite capital right and on friday there are limits um so there's always there's always gonna have to be some limit i think the question is you know will the limits be high enough to the point where you know some it won't impact you know 99.

9 plus percent of customers so if you know someone were to deposit a hundred billion dollars and decide to trade in one stock like that that wouldn't be possible you know all right um yeah listen and fair those um have been reasonable so we are i think the the one thing that is maybe not clear to people is robin is a participant in the financial system all of these um so we do get a lot of questions about you know when you work with market makers when you work with clearing houses uh vertically integrating and getting um the financial system that allows customers to trade shares is sort of a complex web of multiple parties and you know it's hard to everyone says it could be better it could be improved um it's just the necessity of trading equities in

the us that you have to do all these things to what degree are you beholden to citadel i mean like basically but then what happened yeah there's a rumor that uh you know this was this was a clearing house this was a clearinghouse decision and it was just based on the capital requirements so um from our perspective you know citadel and other market makers who are involved in that but wouldn't they have a strong say in who got put in charge of that organization since it's an industry consortium not a government consortium the conspiracy theories a little bit so i just have no reason to believe that that's the case you know okay all right um well i guess we'll see what happens with future actions um for um on i know it's pretty late and uh thank you so much

you know i deeply appreciate it and i'm sure everyone in the audience here and watching elsewhere so thank you so much we cry and pick a song that's the first thing so i'm gonna play thank you so much all right i think i think we're done wow wow that was insane guys whoa thank you we just with this history guys