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内容摘要
加文·埃斯勒就电动汽车、太空旅行及其更广泛的动机采访马斯克。
Gavin Esler interviews Musk on electric cars, space travel and his broader motivations.
中文实录Transcript
9 个段落
第 1 段
现在,今天英国举行了一场非常奇特的汽车发布会,是 Tesla S 电动汽车,它声称能在刚刚超过4秒的时间里达到60英里/小时,终于终结了电动汽车基本上就是没有割草机发动机那种原始动力的送奶车这一观念,而 Tesla S 是美国亿万富翁埃隆·马斯克的创意结晶,他靠 PayPal 和其他企业发了财,现在正把钱花在 Tesla 项目以及把火箭孩子送入太空上,我去西伦敦见了他,我们真正试图通过这个这个 Model S,嗯,实现的是,是创造一款有吸引力的电动汽车,一款真正不同于人们以往体验的东西,因为大多数人上一次驾驶电动汽车时,那可能是一辆高尔夫球车或者
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或者也许是一辆送奶奶平板车送奶车,嗯,所以,嗯,所以他们习惯的、他们对电动汽车的概念,就是一种不好看、不快、没有高性能、续航里程低的东西,我们想打破这一切的窠臼,所以生产某种漂亮的东西,呃,拥有很强的加速性能、令人难以置信的操控性,呃,拥有大量功能、很大空间,嗯,而且确实比任何汽油车都好,这就是我们试图实现的目标,这个这个是,嗯,前备厢,里面什么也没有,是的,里面什么也没有,现在如果有人在英国购买这辆车,有多少地方可以给它插上电呢,嗯,任何有电源插座的地方,任何地方,是的,它的充电器,电源插座没有任何特别之处,充电器内置在
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车里,所以你可以,你无论去哪里都可以插上电,呃,如果你正在前往某个地方旅行,如果你在一间小屋、一家酒店,嗯,除此之外,不过我们还将在全英国建设超级充电地点,所以你将能够在任何 Tesla 超级充电地点充电,嗯,而且我们在这些超级充电地点所做的事情之一,就是它们,它们是免费的,所以如果你购买一辆 Tesla,你可以,你将能够在英国任何地方免费旅行,嗯,而且而且永久免费,我还要再补充一点,就是我们将在所有超级充电地点安装太阳能板,这些太阳能板旨在一年中开发或、或、或产生更多电力,然后那些汽车
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消耗那、那、那些在那里充的电,所以、所以最终结果是,你不仅能够永久免费旅行,而且完全靠阳光。好,说到我们的能源账单问题,这如今是这里巨大的政、巨大的政治议题,就我们的能源来源而言,我们是不是搞错了?嗯,记住我的话,从长期来看,太阳能将成为英国单一最大的能源生产者,而你可能会说,嗯,这里不是相当、也许很多云吗?我正想说,你出过门吗?嗯,是的,即使多云,可能仍有 80% 到 90% 的能量穿过云层,只不过你没有太阳那种明亮的点状光源。嗯,也许理解这一点的一种方式,是看看这样一个事实:呃,植物本质上是
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一种由太阳能驱动的化学反应,而英国是一个非常绿色的国家,现在你,你住在南加州和洛杉矶,经常前往旧金山,而且你也对一个宏大的想法感兴趣,那就是是否有可能通过所谓的超级高铁旅行,换句话说,你在地面上以800英里/小时的速度行进,本质上有点像一种从洛杉矶开往旧金山的火车,我们总体上是否患有一种,嗯,低水平的抱负,我们是否应该想得比 HS2 更大,并考虑这样的东西,我我我认为是的,我是说,嗯,除了“哦,我们会更快到达”这个客观原因之外,或者说就像,你会想做那些鼓舞人心、让人们对未来感到兴奋的项目,嗯,生活必须不只是
第 6 段
解决问题,你会想在早上起床后说,是的,我期待那件事发生,嗯,而且而且我想,那就是我对加州所谓高速铁路的根本失望,就像我看着那个有一阵子,然后就像,嗯,他们有更好的东西,他们30年前在日本就做出了更好的东西,嗯,他们在中国有好得多的东西,我们为什么要这么做,还要在上面花这么多钱,而且要花20年,到那时,我们将比他们在日本拥有的东西落后50年,我的意思是,这完全说不通,我们,那就是我的反应,那是你对加州正在发生之事的反应,我们落后于加州,我的天啊,真的很难,不过也许可以想象,所以所以我的意思是,你最不幸
第 7 段
马斯克生活的另一大部分与他的公司 SpaceX 有关,该公司致力于改进火箭技术,甚至让人类前往其他行星。你真的认为人类的未来必须在太空中吗?你真的认为这、这不是科幻小说,这实际上会成为事实?Abely,绝对。我认为历史从根本上说会朝两个方向之一 Bates,嗯,要么我们,嗯,成为一个多重态物种,在外面探索群星,要么我们成为一个单行星物种,四处等待某个最终的灭绝事件。真正是那样。就我个人而言,我觉得更能激励我的,是,嗯,你知道,前往火星并建立一个基地,那将会是有史以来最伟大的冒险。并非地球上的每个人都是粉丝,Tesla 起诉了节目
第 8 段
《Top Gear》,因为它摩擦了 Tesla Roadster,Tesla 败诉了,那么马斯克怎么看杰里米·克拉克森,嗯,我认为,嗯,克拉孔,克拉伦的节目更多是关于娱乐,而不是关于真相,嗯,而且,呃,我认为大多数人意识到了这一点,但不是每个人,嗯,而且我实际上很喜欢他的许多节目,并不是说,呃,我就是讨厌《Top Gear》或者什么的,嗯,他可以非常风趣,嗯,而且而且不敬权威,嗯,但他确实对电动汽车有很强的偏见,而且他似乎尤其讨厌美国人,就像他的两个心头之恨是美国人、美国汽车和电动汽车,而我们是一辆美国电动汽车,所以对于克拉伦这样的人来说,我们处在最糟糕的境地,那么你是否把这视为一种,作为传教活动,你来到这里试图改变德国
第 9 段
克拉克斯,我不认为杰里米·克拉克森会有任何改变,那似乎非常不可能
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now there was a very peculiar car launch in Britain today it's the Tesla S Electric Car which claims to be able to reach 60 M hour in just over 4 seconds finally putting an end to the idea that electric cars are basically milk floats without the raw power of a lawnmower engine while the Tesla S is the brainchild of the American billionaire Elon Musk he made his fortune in PayPal and other Ventures and is now spending it on the Tesla project and sending Rock kids into space I went to meet him in West London what we really tried to achieve with the the model S um was to to create a compelling electric car something that was really different from people's prior experience CU most people last time they drove an electric car it was probably a golf cart or
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or maybe a milk mil flat milk float um so um so they they're used to their idea of an electric car is something that doesn't look good isn't fast doesn't have high performance has low range we wanted to break the mold of all of that and so produc something that was beautiful uh had high acceleration incredible handling uh had tons of capability lots of room um and really was better than any gasoline car that's what we sought to achieve this this is the um the front trunk with nothing yeah with nothing in it now if somebody buys this car in the United Kingdom now how many places are there where you can plug it in well uh anywhere an electrical outlet anywhere yes it the charg there's nothing special about the electrical outet the charger is built into
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the car so you can you can plug it in anywhere you go uh you can plug it in um if you're traveling somewhere if you're at a cottage at a hotel um in addition to that however we're going to be uh creating supercharge locations throughout the UK so you'll be able to charge anywhere uh at a Tesla supercharge location um and one of the things that we do with with these supercharge locations is that they're they're free so if you buy a Tesla you could you'll be able to travel for free anywhere in Britain um and and it's free forever and I'll add one more thing to that which is we're going to be installing solar panels at all of the supercharged locations which are intended to develop or or or generate more electricity in the course of the year then the cars
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consume that that that charge there so the the net result is that you'll not only be able to travel for free forever but on pure sunlight well on this question of our energy bills which is the huge Pol huge political topic here now have we got it wrong in terms of where we are sourcing our energy um mark my words solar will be the single largest producer of energy in the UK long term and you may say well isn't it rather maybe cloudy around here I was going to say have you ever been outside um yes and even though it's cloudy you still get probably 80 to 90% of the energy coming through the clouds it's just that you don't have that bright point source of of a of a sun um and a way to appreciate this perhaps is to look at the fact that uh plants are essentially
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a solar powered chemical reaction and the UK is a very Green Country now you you live in Southern California and Los Angeles you travel a lot to San Francisco and you're also interested as a as a big thought in whether it's possible to travel by what's called a hyperloop in other words you go at 800 mil hour on the ground essentially like a kind of like a train from Los Angeles to San Francisco do we suffer from generally a kind of um low level of ambition should we think bigger than hs2 and think about something like this I I I think so I mean um for reasons Beyond The Objective oh we'll get there faster or it's it's like you want to do projects that are inspiring and that make people excited about the future um life's got to be about more than just
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solving problems you want to get up in the morning and say yes I'm looking forward to that thing happening um and and I guess that was my Essential disappointment with the California so-called highspeed rail it's like I was looking at that while and it's like well they've got better things they did better things in Japan 30 years ago um they got something way better in China why are we doing this and and spending so much money on it and it's going to take 20 years and by that time we'll be 50 years behind what they've got in Japan I mean this just doesn't make sense we that was my reaction that was your reaction to what's happening in California we are behind California oh my god really difficult though maybe to imagine so so I mean you most unfortunate
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the other big part of musk's life is with his company SpaceX which is committed to improving rocket technology and even getting the human race to other planets do you see really the future must be in space for the human race you really see this this is not science fiction this is actually going to be a fact abely absolutely I think history fundamentally Bates um in in one of two directions either we um are a multiplet species and out there exploring the stars or we are a single planet species waiting around for some eventual Extinction event it's really that that I personally I find more motivating which is um you know going and setting up a base on Mars would just be the greatest advanture ever not everyone's a fan back on Earth Tesla sued the program
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Top Gear after it rubb the Tesla Roadster Tesla lost so what does musk think about Jeremy Clarkson um I think well clarkon claron show is much more about entertainment than is about truth um and uh I think most people realize that but not everyone um and I've actually enjoyed a lot of his shows it's not as though uh I just hate Top Gear or anything um he can be very funny um and and irreverent um but he does have a strong bias against electric cars and he particularly seems to hate American like his two pet peeves are Americans American cars and electric cars and we're an American electric car so we're we're in the worst possible situation for someone like claron so do you see this as a as missionary activity you're over here trying to convert Germany
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Clarks I don't think there'll be any converting of Jeremy Clarkson that seems quite unlikely